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32 Responses to 5 Effects of the Fast-Food Workers Strike

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    July 30, 2013 at 9:51 am
    Link: 5 Effects of the Fast-Food Workers Strike - You know there`s a big fast food employee strike going on now, right? How will it all effect your quarter pounder?
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
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    July 30, 2013 at 10:12 am
    Good! Any company that makes billions of dollars every year should be required to keep their employees above the poverty line.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 30, 2013 at 10:12 am
    $15 an hour for entry level employees ROFL!!! Good luck with that...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 30, 2013 at 10:20 am
    There`s job that require a skill that don`t even pay that!
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    July 30, 2013 at 10:22 am
    They are demanding as much pay as my mother gets as an education counselor at one of the nations top Community Colleges, a position that requires a Master`s degree. They`re actually going to be making more than most of my Ivy League friends did after they graduated.

    Economics. People respond to incentives, but usually not in the way you intend them to. If you really think they are greedy, they`re just going to fire any excess people and maintain about the same expenditures.

    Besides, if you divided their gross profit (which isn`t the correct number to use) by the number of employees McDonalds has, the number you get is much less than what double their salary would be.

    I was able to make well over $7.25 by the time I was 16, and $11 by the time I turned 18. It really wasn`t even that difficult.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    July 30, 2013 at 10:28 am
    It`s a protest consisting of the economically illiterate. How fun.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    July 30, 2013 at 10:28 am
    The formula is simple:
    Finish High School.
    Marry before having a child (or at least a permanent relationship).
    Don`t have a child before age 20.

    These were the solutions proposed by one of Clinton`s advisors, William Galston. Only 8% of people who do all 3 things are poor. Don`t be a victim. Having a baby is your choice, a reckless choice if you`re not secure. Not finishing high school is your choice. The fact is that the reason the wages are so low is that the pool of low-skill labor is so high. It`s simple economics.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    July 30, 2013 at 10:50 am
    Are they unionized? If not, why aren`t they all being fired?
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    dirtysteve00 Male 30-39
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    July 30, 2013 at 10:59 am
    Five POSSIBLE effects, according to one dude.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    July 30, 2013 at 11:15 am
    15 an hour for flipping burgers and saying, "you want fries with that?"

    Seriously look at some of these fast food workers and then seriously tell me that giving them more money is going to improve their attitude and job performance. It`s pretty easy to tell the ones that are only using the job for a time to climb the ladder of success from the ones who aren`t going anywhere no matter what you pay them.
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    cuthere2 Male 30-39
    317 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 11:18 am
    I don`t think I`ve read a stupider article all month! When the author makes comments such as: "No wonder they`re licking our taco shells and stomping on our lettuce" You know you`re dealing with someone that lacks the ability for critical thinking, and is engaging in entitlement mentality. (Let`s see - Hmmmm, so I`m not making the money I`d like to be, so I`m going to screw with the food and victimize complete strangers that have nothing to do with this...) Yep, this guy is a real Einstein! What a moron...
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    cuthere2 Male 30-39
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    July 30, 2013 at 11:20 am
    Not to mention - Working at a fast food restaurant is a LOW SKILL job folks! Great for kids just starting out, but should be used to get your start in the workplace, and move on! Don`t like the pay? How about you get yourself some skills that are worthy of the pay you seek?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 11:38 am
    Ok, I`m all for unions, but you have to understand why unions exist to know when they are a good tool.
    Unions are primarily useful in monopsonies and oligopsonies because they balance the power of negotiation. While you would rather have a perfectly competitive market determining the best wage, the logic here is that if one side will be represented by few people it`s better to have both sides represented by few people. This of course, is irrelevant to fast food, as they work in an industry with almost perfect competition.

    The next best reason to have unions is for safety standards. In perfect competition, unions cannot raise the wages of employees without destroying jobs. It`s impossible. What they can do, however, is improve safety standards. Again, this is irrelevant to fast food.

    cont`d
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    July 30, 2013 at 11:39 am
    The last best reason to have unions is where you have long-term employees who are actively involved in the long-term strategy of the company. These unions sit in on strategy meetings, understanding that what is good for the company is good for the employees. These unions are trying to raise wages and job security of the long-run by helping to make sure the company is successful.
    When it comes down to it, none of these good reasons for unionization apply to fast food. The effects of unionization will be higher pay for a few but loss of jobs for many so that the net effect is less money in total being paid to workers, fast food businesses closing down or being replaced by non-unionized ones, and higher prices for the consumer.
    Effectively, unions in highly competitive industries don`t do anyone any favours, least of all the employees.
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    korahn Male 30-39
    1249 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 11:40 am
    Still - good for them. $8.25 per hour in New York? WTF? Even here in NB min wage is $10/hr and the cost of living is nowhere near that of NY.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
    3844 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 11:45 am
    I don`t understand the first one: fewer emergency room visits? Why? Why would ONE DAY of not eating fast food reduce risk of heart attacks (I assume that`s what he meant by "fat guys keeling over") on that one particular day?
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
    5879 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 11:50 am
    I`m all for it. It means I can pack up doing a skilled job that has taken years of education and training. I will have low stress, reduced blood-pressure and digestive disorders, no decisions to make, company supplied work-wear and safety gear, discount on fast food as required, the list goes on.
    I would still be able to spit in someone`s food if I didn`t like the look of them or they were rude. I could get their order wrong if they looked like they were in a hurry.
    However, I would miss intelligent conversation with my customers.
    Having to say: `Do you want fries with that?` several times a day would drive me round the bend.
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    keith2 Male 18-29
    2587 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 12:35 pm
    NO, you don`t get a big paycheck for flipping burgers and dropping fries. NO, you won`t have all the toys and cars you want. It`s a NO SKILL, general labor type of position to be in. You either learn a skill that monkey`s can`t do, or you get paid the bare minimum. Deal with it. Tell me, why should any regular jack-off working a grill and fryer be paid like a manager?
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    Pinkminx22 Female 30-39
    1081 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 12:51 pm
    There are healthcare workers that don`t even get paid 15$ bucks an hour, so what makes burger flippers so damn special that they deserve 15 bucks an hour for an unskilled job..what makes them think that they should be allowed to be paid more than a healthcare worker,police officer,or a soldier in Iraq?? I just don`t understand the whole sense of self entitlement thing, and getting Something for nothing...
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5875 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 12:59 pm
    Agent00Smith-"Any company that makes billions of dollars every year"

    Google the term `Franchise`. These employees are paid by the owner of the Franchise, who is not making `billions of dollars`.

    If you`re 25 and you can only earn minimum at McDonald`s, that means you`re getting paid exactly what you`re work is worth (i.e. not very much).

    It took me less than a week slinging pizza`s before I realized, "with very little effort, I can find a much better job". (of course, that `very littel effort` consisted of `good work ethics`, `learning useful skills` and `actually producing`...not something these idiots would be familiar with)
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36187 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    "I want high pay for a brainless job!"
    Pie in the sky, libratard thinking.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36187 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    I do take exception with the customer service thingie. These guys are flogging their brains out in a hot kitchen, tossing food out for ungrateful employers and often rude customers. All you can hope for is the food you ordered, it is unreasonable to expect them to also give a sh*t.

    Reverse places and you wouldn`t.
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    EmagehtmaI Male 18-29
    187 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    While I agree that getting paid minimum wage sucks (I`ve been there myself - made $5.15/hr flipping burgers at BK my first year of college almost a decade ago), I think $15/hr is a little high, don`t you? I`m a Registered Nurse who makes $20.15/hr. At the nursing home/rehab facility I work at, LPNs start at $14/hr. So paying a high school kid who flips burgers more than the person who may end up giving your grandmother her medications or performing a sterile dressing change (and who has at least 2 years of college and has been trained in their chosen field) seems a little "bass ackward" to me.

    Although, I also admit my perception is a little skewed since I live in the rural South, where the cost of living is significantly lower (I just recently bought a 1500 sq foot 3 bedroom, 2 bath brick house on 1/3 of an acre with a fenced in back yard, storage building, fireplace and carport, all at the end of a cul-de-sac for $95k. Can`t find that in NYC.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 9:17 pm
    I worked at Burger King and McDonald`s when I was in high school. They are not difficult jobs, they do not deserve $15 an hour, not even close to that.

    I`ve got 8 years of heavy construction equipment operating experience, a class A commercial drivers license, and am a certified diesel technician, and it was hard for me to find $15 an hour (not for too long, luckily).
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    Solvent Male 18-29
    2842 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 9:52 pm
    I am an unskilled worker and as such I deserve more than I am worth.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    July 30, 2013 at 10:22 pm
    Most of these people only have jobs because it is slightly cheaper to pay them than to buy and maintain a machine. The more you have to pay them, the more attractive automation becomes. There are very few jobs in a fast food restaurant that cannot be done by robots.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
    5879 posts
    July 31, 2013 at 3:32 am
    Open new burger-joint
    Increase staff pay
    Increase prices
    Watch customer numbers fall.
    Fire all unnecessary staff.
    Remaining staff have to work harder, they get pissed off and leave for easier job.
    Consequent hiring difficulties result in employing unsuitable staff.
    Product quality nosedives.
    Customers leave in their droves.
    Business now non-viable, closes with loss of all jobs.
    New Burger-joint opens offering wages the same as the original.
    Cycle repeat
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
    578 posts
    July 31, 2013 at 9:44 am
    Whoever wrote that article needs some serious classes in critical thinking. To have so little knowledge of the consequences of one`s actions is amazing. But hey, why stop at $15 an hour? Why not $20? or $30 or $100 or more? Then we`d all be freakin` rich! Woohoo!
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
    2105 posts
    July 31, 2013 at 9:33 pm
    I quit eating fast food 2 years ago. Lost and kept off more than 80 pounds. No effect here.
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    Ozmose Male 30-39
    448 posts
    August 1, 2013 at 7:27 am
    The math has already been done. McDonalds would have to raise the price of their menu items by $0.10 to cover the wage increase. Anyone who isn`t willing to cough up an extra $0.10 for a burger so someone can feed and clothe their children deserves a ******* bullet to the head.
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    cuthere2 Male 30-39
    317 posts
    August 23, 2013 at 8:45 pm
    I don`t think I`ve read a stupider article all month! When the author makes comments such as: "No wonder they`re licking our taco shells and stomping on our lettuce" You know you`re dealing with someone that lacks the ability for critical thinking, and is engaging in entitlement mentality. (Let`s see - Hmmmm, so I`m not making the money I`d like to be, so I`m going to screw with the food and victimize complete strangers that have nothing to do with this...) Yep, this guy is a real Einstein! What a moron...
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    cuthere2 Male 30-39
    317 posts
    August 23, 2013 at 8:45 pm
    Not to mention - Working at a fast food restaurant is a LOW SKILL job folks! Great for kids just starting out, but should be used to get your start in the workplace, and move on! Don`t like the pay? How about you get yourself some skills that are worthy of the pay you seek?

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