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51 Responses to F-Bombs And Knock Knock Jokes At Zimmerman Trial

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    June 24, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    Link: F-Bombs And Knock Knock Jokes At Zimmerman Trial - Zimmerman`s murder trial opened today, and it looks like it`s going to be a strange one.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2013 at 12:30 pm
    It`s funny that Zimmerman`s past expletives are admissible, but all of Trayvon`s are not.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
    1059 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 12:34 pm
    Wow. This guy is screwed, big-time. Probably has a ready-made appeal for incompetent council, though.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2013 at 12:36 pm
    Great, TV cameras in the court room. Bunch of grandstanding lawyers making this even more of a circus than it already is.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    I saw the circus this morning.
    Stupid joke in opening statements.
    Judge is leaning against Zimmerman in her decisions.
    I hope he gets off.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2013 at 12:50 pm
    I hate all the f*cking theatrics that go along with high profile trials like this. I only watched the first video of the prosecutor speaking and it sounds like a monologue from a horrible audition tape.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 12:59 pm
    So: The ONLY thing the prosecution has is hysterics and emotional appeal? Oh, and the `Race Card`.

    Exactly as I (and others) predicted.

    There`s no way this should even have gone to trial. Chance of conviction = zero point zero.

    The defense `joke` video should have been longer: it sounds like he`s making a valid point, but gets cut off before he can explain it.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2013 at 1:35 pm
    If you look at the composition of the jury, he`ll probably get off. I believe it`s 5 white women and one hispanic woman.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    This judge is so biased.
    Prosecution first witness was Travon`s friend who talked about how they played video games all day like good little boys.

    He wasn`t a witness to the incident. He wasn`t there. He wasn`t on the phone with him. He had NOTHING to offer in the way of evidence, just painted a rosey picture of what a sweet little child Trayvon was.

    Trayvon didn`t deserve to die, he probably was an okay kid. But that`s irrelevant, this sort of emotionalism is used to sway a jury when you don`t have facts.
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    chicagojay Male 40-49
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    June 24, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    As a white male living on the South side of Chicago, I am excited that the verdict will be read when it is 90º outside. That way, I can experience random violence against me and mine.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Next witness for the prosecution is the 7-11 clerk who testified Trayvon bought a soft drink and candy like a sweet little boy. Again this is not a witness to the incident, it`s an emotional appeal.

    This sort of dragging it out is why no one wants to serve on a jury for 3 or 4 months.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 24, 2013 at 2:25 pm
    @Andrew155: Quoting Zimmerman`s comments to the 911 operator is germane to the events that happened minutes later. Quoting Martin`s random FB posts is not. At all.

    That said, I agree with most of the comments here regarding the circus that is this trial and all of the grandstanding (some on both sides) leading up to it.

    Seems pretty simple. There was an altercation, Zimmerman shot Martin. Martin died. The question is, what does the law allow for regarding self defense? Does it allow the use of deadly force in this case or not? Did Zimmerman cause the altercation and does that matter or not? I realize we have to have a little bit of lead up info and a little bit of follow on info, but that`s basically it. Did Zimmerman defend himself, or, due to extenuating circumstances, under the law, did he go too far? That`s it. Seems that could be discussed and settled in a day. Or should be. Whatever the law says, that should be that.
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    Dead_mind Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    US trials are so f-up. this is justice? he is clearly guilty. he followed some one and Martin defended himself.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2013 at 2:59 pm
    Lol deadmind, your mentality seems to be the mentality of injustice. You`re already ready to hang and convict him. The question is whether or not he rightly defended himself, or if he was out hunting Black people. Self-defense is something that you have a weak right to in most quarters in Europe.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    SmagBoy, "Quoting Martin`s random FB posts is not"
    I think they are. Also the photos of him with the pistol and others like that. It shows a person who glorifies the thuglife culture. It goes to the defense theory of self defense that someone who did glorify a violent culture might pick a fight.

    All the jury will see are 5 year old photos of a darling little boy, not the young man who was shot. That`s prejudicial.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    @ Dead mind - I think he`s clearly NOT guilty.
    Anyone should be allowed to defend themselves is someone is hitting them.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    Amazing that anyone here thinks that can possibly know if he`s guilty or not guilty.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    FoolsPrussia why not? Isn`t possible to follow the case closely, be knowledgeable about it and then form an opinion?

    Not me, I`m an ignorant git who forms lots of opinions over nothing. But I`m sure some of the people here know stuff.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2013 at 3:43 pm
    For several reasons.

    1) I don`t think there are a lot of people here who really know Florida law well enough to make a judgement.

    2) There`s a reason we have trials.

    3) What I see here is people judging based on their worldview. So on one side you have the gun rights people who are convinced not only that Zimmerman did the right thing, but that Trayvon Martin was a punk, gang member, or general piece of trash.

    On the other side I see people who have the opposite worldview (the side I am generally on, but won`t share in their accusations in this case), who are also convinced that Zimmerman maliciously shot Martin because he`s a racist.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    I think with the way the prosecutor is a freaking tool, and comes across as such, this may not take long.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2013 at 3:46 pm
    I am going to base the idea that George Zimmerman will get off, rightly or wrongly, on the composition of the jury. Just like OJ`s jury was mostly black, this one is mostly white. Could be wrong though.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 3:57 pm
    Amazing that anyone here thinks that can possibly know if he`s guilty or not guilty.
    @FoolsPrussia: Only 1 human alive "knows 100% for sure". OK? Everyone else, including the Judge and Jury? FORM AN OPINION.
    That`s what we`ll ALL doing! But if it`s a strong enough opinion? We state it as a fact, because that`s how the English language rolls.

    For example: I know the Moon is NOT made of cheese.
    Not because I PERSONALLY have been there! But because the `vast preponderance` of evidence and common sense points to it NOT being made of cheese.

    Get it? It`s not 100% certain, but 99.999~ (repeating) and that`s close enough for me!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 4:00 pm
    Furthermore: I honestly doubt this trial will have ONE IOTA of "new evidence" that we (on IAB) haven`t seen already.

    What it hinges of is: what evidence is KEPT OUT of the trial...

    So I believe I HAVE seen all the evidence in this case, but remain open to there being more.

    I`d `bet the farm` there isn`t anything new that`s important though. At least NOTHING that will `prove` Zimmerman is guilty...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    Zimmerman passed a lie decterctor test. The way this has been handled should be considered a mistrial there is no chance of a non biased jury.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 4:24 pm
    If he gets off I hope the Asian shopkeepers in LA are well armed...again.....
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    "There`s a reason we have trials."
    Alas, those reasons don`t apply. The police and the prosecutor determined that no crime had been committed and Zimmerman acted lawfully in self defense. Until a bunch of black social leaders brought the camera`s and drama to the scene. This trial is politically motivated. The special prosecutor, Angela Core, who was appointed to "Examine the facts" said her first day "We will get him".

    This is a show trial so politicians don`t take a hit with black voters.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 4:56 pm
    Wouldn`t be surprised if this came (back) to America if the jury goes a certain way.


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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
    2062 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 6:37 pm
    "Amazing that anyone here thinks that can possibly know if he`s guilty or not guilty."

    100 bucks says he`s one or the other.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 7:59 pm
    Andrew: Sadly, I have to agree with your comment.
    The media has mislead and spun this so badly, demonizing not only him but his entire family, that an acquittal will become another lame excuse for mass violence.

    I`ll be praying for all of you that live in Florida, when the time comes, stay safe.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36217 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    I hope he is found not guilty.
    Partly because I believe his story and the evidence supports it,
    and because the following riot will be fun to watch.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 8:35 pm
    @McGovern: Lie detector test? That`s complete bullpoop! Sorry dude, but "lie detectors" are about as accurate as chicken entrails...
    Horoscopes...

    Seriously! You know who passed a lie detector test? The Green River Killer, that`s who! Never, EVER submit to one! I speak from experience! It`s just another form of police torture!

    Just the facts, that`s all that is needed for an absolute discharge!
    Now will the facts be "allowed" in this political `show trial`? That remains to be seen.

    Obama has already declared Zimmerman guilty... Ghod Forbid any Judge in the USA should disagree with `The 0` !!
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2013 at 8:40 pm
    Amazing that anyone here thinks that can possibly know if he`s guilty or not guilty.

    Exactly. I don`t have any f*cking clue one way or the other. Having said that, my money`s on acquittal.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 9:28 pm
    i dont know 5cats...my horoscope is usually pretty acurate...

    i will agree with you and say that lie detectors are bullpoo. had one brought into school once for show and tell and i passed it easy.

    i gotta agree with Gerry on wanting to see Z get off free for the riots. though i think that he DID wrongfully shoot T its been too long since i`ve seen FL in the news.

    that and personally i would rather see someone collect on that bounty the panthers put up.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 24, 2013 at 10:58 pm
    I know if I ever decide to murder someone, the FIRST thing I`m going to do is call the police and tell them to get someone there right away. Then I`m going to start a fistfight with the guy, and just before he fractures my skull, I`m gonna bust a cap in his azz.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 1:25 am
    LOLZ! @Collegebound you INNOCENT lad! Plz to look up "cold reading" and then get back to me...

    Thank goodness you know that Lie Detectors are bullpoo! They really are. THAT could be why they are NOT allowed in court as evidence ANYWHERE on Earth! Eh?

    I know! I took one! It`s just a form of torture! Never, ever again will I allow that to happen to me!

    Overall: I welcome the poop hitting the fan! HIT IT! HAAAARD!!!!

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 25, 2013 at 5:28 am
    @5Cats

    Oh I know they`re non admissable but if he failed it you beter belive you would hear about it everywhere.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 25, 2013 at 7:13 am

    Still arguing over the prior 911 calls.
    I think they`re irrelevant. But the prosecution doesn`t seem to have evidence, so they need to chip away at him, make him look like a racist even if he`s not.

    So what if he called 911 before? It was his job as part of neighborhood watch to call 911. Doesn`t the fact he never chose to be confrontational indicate he is not likely to have confronted Travon? But Travon has had a history of confrontation {attacking his school bus driver, fights at school}. Of course, Travon`s past is not admissible in court.... how biased can this judge get?
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    June 25, 2013 at 7:27 am
    "So what if he called 911 before? It was his job as part of neighborhood watch to call 911. Doesn`t the fact he never chose to be confrontational indicate he is not likely to have confronted Travon?

    not only is Z not part of any neighborhood watch but there ISNT one to begin with. he did all of this on his own. when the dispatcher told him to leave the situation alone he should have. the fact that he didn`t only proves to me that he meant to be "confrontational" to begin with.

    i will agree with you again that T`s past should be admissible in court. its not like it can hurt anything and it doesn`t REALLY have anything to do with this particular case. did he glorify the "thug life" yea. but all he was doing THAT NIGHT was going home after buying a bag of candy. Z got overly suspicious, called the cops, was told to back off, got into an altercation with T, and when he got the chance shot him. after T was clearly calling for help (they DID prove t
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    June 25, 2013 at 7:29 am
    also lie detectors are head games. its all about how good of a liar you are. if you are bad, your heart rate skyrockets becuase you panic. if you are good, your heart rate doesn`t do poo becuase you DON`T panic. its not that hard. that being said you can fail a test just as easily as you can pass.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2013 at 7:32 am
    When Penn & Teller debunked the validity of so called "Lie Detector" tests, I`ve been against them ever since.

    Having said that, the evidence, corroborating testimony of eyewitnesses and passing a LDT is all in Zimmerman`s favor. This never should`ve went to trial.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2013 at 7:46 am
    collegebound: I believe you`ve been misinformed by the media. Trayvon had 2 of the 3 ingredients to make a drug called "Lean", which is Arizona Watermelon Drink, Skittles and cough syrup (like Robitussin). Btw, It was not iced tea that Trayvon bought, Arizona Iced Tea is the brand name of the company, Trayvon is on the convenience store video buying the Watermelon Drink and Skittles. All he needed was the cough syrup. On his facebook account, now closed, he discussed making Lean and getting cough syrup from others to do so.

    That is likely why Zimmerman thought Trayvon looked suspicious, it`s likely he was looking to meet up with the person supplying him the cough syrup and was interrupted from doing so.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 25, 2013 at 7:47 am

    Collegebound - Yes, there is a neighborhood watch in that area, Zimmerman was a part-time captain and fellow neighborhood watch members have voice defense of him.

    As for Dispatch, they said "keep an eye on him" while Z was in the truck. When he got out they said "we don`t need you to do that" but you are under no obligation to obey 911 operators. The operator testified they cannot give orders or instruction. Zimmerman could simple have wanted to follow from a distance to see where the "hoodie" went and inform the police when they arrived.

    Further, Martin told his girlfriend on the phone he was going to find out why that guy was following him. Martin instigated contact and the confrontation.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 25, 2013 at 7:49 am

    Agreed, Lie Detector tests are so fallable they are laughable. But the media and many people put great store in them when someone fails....so why not point out he passed one? It doesn`t prove innocence, but it points out to the idiots like Nancy Grace and Jane Valez Mitchell what life-sucking gossipmongers they are.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2013 at 8:13 am
    Gerry: Agreed Grace and Valez are notorious muckrakers. If I were a defendant`s counsel one of the first questions I`d ask a juror is if they ever watch either of them on TV and if they do, then dismiss them from service based solely on that fact.

    Media trials do nothing but taint juries and bias the public. CNN, HLN and others have already judged him guilty and convicted him, which serves only to heighten tensions, create hype and raise expectations for a guilty verdict.

    When that expectation and hype doesn`t match the verdict, later, many people will see it as injustice solely because of the media`s reporting.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 25, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Crakr, nowadays most people define "injustice" as "I didn`t get what I wanted".
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 25, 2013 at 1:28 pm
    that and personally i would rather see someone collect on that bounty the panthers put up.

    Bet that check would bounce..... Infact where`s the charges for that isn`t putting a price on someones head a felony??? Oh it`s ok they`re black...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 25, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Good day for the defense!
    Caught the prosecutions witness making up new details she`s never mentioned before. Didn`t look too reliable.

    Defense 1 - Prosecution 0
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 25, 2013 at 4:21 pm
    when the dispatcher told him to leave the situation alone he should have.
    @collegebound: Z did stop! He stopped (he had lost sight of Martin at this point anyhow) and then walked back to his truck. This is an established fact.
    The only question is: WHY did Martin go back and confront Z? Why didn`t he go home, leave or whatever?

    Ooo... creepy deja-vu feeling...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 25, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    "The only question is: WHY did Martin go back and confront Z?"
    According to his girlfriend, who he was on the phone with, Martin said some guy was following him and he was gonna find out why, then he hung up. Trayvon approached Zimmerman, not the other way around as Nancy Grace & Al Sharpton would have you believe.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 25, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Hey Mods, we need to pin this thread to the top page so we can continue commentary during the whole trial.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 25, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    Update: The judge in the Zimmerman trial has put OSC re Contempt on the prosecutors for withholding evidence from the defense. That means she doesn`t want to make a circus of it now, but will decide the punishment for the contempt charge after the trial. It`s not known what they were withholding, but obviously it was something that showed Zimmerman`s innocence. If it showed his guilt the prosecution would not hide it.

    Source on this is Anderson Cooper. I googled but didn`t find any other sources to confirm this .... yet.

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