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48 Responses to Crazy LA Racist Road Rager

  1. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2013 at 3:55 pm
    Link: Crazy LA Racist Road Rager - NSFW Language. See link for story.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2013 at 4:45 pm
    I saw this on ABC news and I kept wondering, "Why the frack is this national news?" And then they went on to say that Road Rage is on the rise (probably manufactured).

    Two things that are unclear: if this was racist, it definitely was not apparent in the video. Secondly, I am skeptical he was completely unprovoked. Now obviously the rager is being a tool, but I do have a difficult time believing nothing set him off.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    What? Looked like a normal LA commute to me.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 4:52 pm
    Yeah, this is another reason I hate LA.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 24, 2013 at 5:06 pm
    The license plate is clearly visible in the video. They haven`t arrested this guy yet?
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    June 24, 2013 at 5:14 pm
    Hey FoolsPrussia, it`s in the credits link where we always link the stories that go with any videos.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 5:15 pm
    That assh*le needs to have his license revoked for awhile.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    Oh, my bad Kitteh! I didn`t see it. I`ll delete that comment.
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    tjgvertigo Male 18-29
    61 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 5:50 pm
    What a scum bag.
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    handimanner Male 60-69
    2095 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 6:43 pm
    Used to live in LA. Some of the better drivers there. Probably because of the normalcy of gridlock.
    What happens during rage is that the person escalates, listening to the hamster on the wheel until giving self-justification to explode. This guy is probably headed to his anger manadement class (or will be soon).
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    2L84ME Male 18-29
    208 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 8:06 pm
    Having been born and raised in L.A. I always noticed that the a**holes were always from another state.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 8:24 pm
    I`ve come across a few of these types over the years, if not quite as insane as this one. The scariest thing is that you don`t know quite how nuts they are, whether they`re willing to cause an accident, or even if they`re packing a gun.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 11:23 pm
    If he had gotten out and and come back to my car, I would have slammed the door into him and then beaten him like a rented mule. If he lived, he`d be be spending the rest of his worthless life in a nursing home.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 11:26 pm
    Ollie: Dipsh|ts like that aren`t worth loosing your freedom over. Just saying.
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    jeepjones Male 30-39
    554 posts
    June 24, 2013 at 11:59 pm
    Hence the reason I always have a loaded gun in the armrest, it`s funny watching guys like this literally piss themselves on the pavement in the middle of traffic when I shove the snub nosed 44 into their foreheads, lol.
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    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 12:34 am
    Sometimes looking ugly works. I have my doubts that he`d be so willing to shout at a bearded, bald guy with enough cuts in the face. Actually, very very few are brave enough.. That`s funny cause i`ve never hit a man (or woman) and only one cut in my face is due to violence (my old lady smacked me with a winebottle once..)
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    CreamK Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2013 at 12:36 am
    jeepjones: you`re an idiot and a criminal.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13631 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 1:36 am
    Some people see their car as a superman outfit
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    MrAtari Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2013 at 2:46 am
    Well, when you have a tiny d*ck and an ugly car you`ve got to compensate somehow...
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 3:58 am
    @CreamK

    "jeepjones: you`re an idiot and a criminal."

    Now be fair. As much as I`m against the idea of firearms for personal protection, if where you live DOES allow it, then a situation where someone approaches your car, screaming abuse, is EXACTLY the kind of situation the firearm is for! Because someone doing that to you is clearly a potential threat to your safety.

    @Andrew155

    "Secondly, I am skeptical he was completely unprovoked."

    What kind of provocation are you imagining that would justify the road-rager`s actions?
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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 4:36 am
    @Musuko, maybe they came up in a threatening manner earlier - apparently that is enough provocation to shoot them in your world. Cutting them up and shouting seems far less significant a response.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 5:53 am
    @Finker

    How about you let me know where I said "shoot"?

    Because the scenario we were talking about was jeepjones stating he would brandish his gun. Put it to the forehead of the other guy, as he put it. Hyperbole or literal, either way: he didn`t say he would shoot.

    And in caps, because you clearly didn`t spot it previously: DID YOU MISS THE PART WHERE I SAID THAT I AM *ANTI* GUN?!

    I don`t think guns should be used for self-defence. But where they ARE used for self-defence, it would be entirely valid to reach for it when someone is approaching you, in a rage, hurling abuse.

    Because since when was that NOT a threat?
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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
    2157 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 7:11 am
    Good thing California is Pro-Gun and carrying is easy....

    oh wait...

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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 7:27 am
    @Musuko42, I missed nothing. People get in cars, then they get carried away when cross. If both start pulling guns when anger and fear is involved then there`s a good chance it will get out of hand too.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 7:56 am
    @Finker

    I`ll ask again:

    How about you let me know where I said "shoot"?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 8:00 am
    @Finker

    PS: Again, are you willfully ignoring that I AM ANTI GUN?

    I *AGREE* with you that a culture where guns are pulled regularly is not smart. What I was *SAYING* is that where such a culture of guns being used for self-defence *DOES* exist, that pulling a gun when being approached by an angry person shouting abuse, as jeepjones suggests, *IS* a legitimate example of being threatened and using a gun for self-defence.

    Seriously...ARE you willfully ignoring what I`m saying, and...what...just replying to an imaginary conversation?
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    grimfusion Male 18-29
    76 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 8:18 am
    @Musuko42: Yelling doesn`t necessitate a threat. Neither does approaching your vehicle. If you`re so gun happy that you feel the need to "protect" yourself in low-conflict situations by flashing a firearm regardless of your position, you might benefit from some therapy.

    Don`t take your drating gun out unless you mean to use it. Grow some balls.
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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 8:34 am
    I`m not ignoring anything, but what`s the point of having a gun, the whole point is that it is a threat to shoot. If the other person pulls a gun in response would you say I was only kidding and put it down? You seem to be trying to say gun carrying is ok but you are anti-guns. You also seem to be doing a fair job of showing that people get worked up waaaaay too easily. You may say you are anti-gun but you then say a cross person walking up to your car is the situation a gun is for. You have a funny idea of being anti-guns.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4848 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 9:09 am
    grimfusion,
    Yelling doesn`t constitute a threat, nor does approaching your car. I think yelling in anger while approaching the car has significant potential for threat especially after the prior stupid, dangerous behavior of the idiot. The driver of the 1st person car did nothing wrong I could see. Probably something happened to the idiot when he wasn`t paying enough attention to see who was actually at fault, and it may even have been the idiot. That`s happened to me in rush hour traffic in NY.
    Finker,
    You`re missing Musuko`s point entirely. He`s saying he DOESN`T like guns for self defense but, in a society where guns are permitted for this purpose, he could understand someone pulling it out in a situation like this one. He`s not SUPPORTING gun use here, he`s UNDERSTANDING it.
    Idiot needs to have his license revoked permanently, car confiscated and sold, proceeds donated to charity. He endangered everyone on the road out of pure sh*t brained stupidity.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4848 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 9:28 am
    Finker,
    You`re completely missing Musuko`s point. He`s saying that, while he doesn`t support carrying guns for self defense, he could understand someone pulling out a gun in a situation like this in a society that permits it. He`s UNDERSTANDING it, not ADVOCATING it. Big difference.

    grimfusion,
    You`re right that neither yelling nor approaching your vehicle necessarily consititutes a threat, but yelling at you WHILE approaching your vehicle denotes a pretty high likelihood of threat especially after the stupid, dangerous behavior of the idiot doing the yelling. Could detect no inappropriate act by the 1st person driver, who really maintained his cool. I wouldn`t have. Idiot probably wasn`t paying attention and something happened that he assigns blame to 1st person driver for. I`ve had that happen in rush hour traffic in NY. Idiot needs his license revoked permanently, car confiscated and sold, proceeds donated to charity (in the name of 1st person driver!).
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4848 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 9:29 am
    Oops,
    System crashed. Didn`t know the comment posted!
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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 9:51 am
    @broizfam, in my book condoning it isn`t anti gun. Musko seems to want to be in both camps at the same time imo. If you have concealed weapons then the non carriers will benefit from the caution that arrises due to the possibility that some nut will shoot you in an argument. Letting others do that for you while trying to say you aren`t doing it yourself is just denial in my book. Saying I am anti-gun, but " is EXACTLY the kind of situation the firearm is for" is just a nonsense. I disagree with his view, that is all.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 10:04 am
    @grimfusion

    "Don`t take your drating gun out unless you mean to use it. Grow some balls."

    Must I again say it? I AM ANTI GUN! Jesus Christ.

    Seriously...are people reading what they want to see so they can have an argument, rather than actually reading the words on the screen?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 10:06 am
    @Finker

    "You seem to be trying to say gun carrying is ok but you are anti-guns."

    I`ll refer you to broizfam`s post, which exactly explains my position. Thank you broizfam.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 10:11 am
    @Finker

    "Letting others do that for you while trying to say you aren`t doing it yourself is just denial in my book."

    Letting others do it is exactly what most civilisations decided to do when they created police forces.

    My stance is that nobody should be (or need to be) arming themselves for self-defence.

    "Saying I am anti-gun, but " is EXACTLY the kind of situation the firearm is for" is just a nonsense."

    There is no nonsense in my view: if a gun is going to be carried for self-defence, this IS the situation it is being carried for. This does not mean I agree with that being the case.

    I can say that a nuclear weapon is intended for destroying cities. Would that statement, to you, seem that I am condoning the destruction of cities?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 10:17 am
    Musuko, total strawman, never claimed anything justified this. You know, there can be an event that can cause something (like this rage) without that event justifying what that something is (the rage). It`s not that difficult.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4848 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 11:03 am
    Finker,
    You`re looking in the wrong book. Not to be a wise-a$$ but you need to check a dictionary. He`s not "condoning", he`s "comprehending" why someone in that situation might feel the need to defend himself and, in a society where carrying a gun is allowed, why he might defend himself by taking out his gun. That`s ALL he`s saying. He`s not suggesting that the person SHOULD pull a gun, just understanding why that person MIGHT.
    Musuko,
    Your welcome but why are you condoning the destruction of cities? (hehehe)
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6942 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 11:54 am
    Pretty clear the guy was being a wanker in general but had targeted one driver in particular. He certainly needs to lose his license. Provoked? Bollocks; he`s messing with everybody and needs sorting out.
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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 12:18 pm
    @Musuko. A police force is different to a vigilante, there is a legal process. If you said a gun if for killing I would not have said you were condoning shooting, if you said this is a situation where it is ok to use a nuclear bomb I would have commented.
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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    @broizfam, condone - to give tacit approval to. I take a comment that this is exactly the situation to use a gun to be slightly biased. The word exactly goes beyond merely understanding the view of the gun carrier and adds his own view about how appropriate it is. I am sure many if not all in the anti-gun camp would say this is exactly the situation when people shouln`t have guns. It is no way the comment of somebody coming from a clear anti-gun point of view, it is somebody who won`t carry themselves but condones the use of guns.
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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 12:40 pm
    To give you a different example:
    "I am anti-domestic violence but this is exactly the situation that being able to punch your partner is for."

    Personally I can`t reconcile that comment with being anti-violence. I don`t see it as understand the person, I see it as a comment that to some extent condones the violence. If you can split that then fair enough, we just see the world differently.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4848 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    Finker,
    I`m anti-gun. Never owned one, don`t want to. Only ever fired a 22 caliber rifle, as a kid, on a firing range at a vacation horseback riding ranch under strict supervision. I absolutely believe people should NOT be carrying guns around since they get used too easily for bad reasons and, even when being used for good reasons, bad things happen such as injuries and deaths from stray bullets. I can still understand, though, that someone in the same situation as the driver of the car being accosted might feel he needed to draw a gun to protect himself from the aggressive idiot, if he happened to have one on him. Clearly, it wasn`t necessary since Idiot didn`t actually attack, except by hurling a can, early on, while driving. That`s why I`m against those guns being out there in public...there`s too good a chance someone would actually have shot Idiot. I`m hoping that, instead, he`ll pay a good size fine, spend some time in jail, and a good long while on foot or in taxis or buses
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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 2:49 pm
    broizfam, I agree with everything you say. I can`t see you saying this video "is EXACTLY the kind of situation the firearm is for"
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    infantry0 Male 30-39
    164 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    probably should stop saying drat you to the crazy guy, idiot.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4848 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 5:12 pm
    Finker,
    You`re right. I wouldn`t say that. What I would say, though, is that this is the kind of situation that people who want to carry guns want them for. A problem with that, though, is that some people will brandish the gun to show how tough they are. Then the other pulls his to show that he`s tough, too. Then they both have to wonder, "Is he going to shoot me? Maybe I should shoot first." If they only kill each other then Darwin is satisfied. Unforunately, there`s no way to control where a bullet that misses its mark, or passes through and still at injuring speed, will come to rest and there are a lot of innocent people nearby. People, children, have been killed in their homes because of stray bullets fired stupidly in anger. In that sense, at least, guns *do* kill people. That`s why I don`t advocate them. They also kill, in a sense, when idiots leave them around loaded, safety off, with children present. Some tragedies are, absolutely, avoidable.
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    jeepjones Male 30-39
    554 posts
    June 25, 2013 at 6:26 pm
    Idiot and a criminal eh? Well maybe to some, but I tell you what, if you`ve ever been in a unprovoked & severely violent confrontation which I have, you end up with 2 choices for the future. #1 You become completely withdrawn from life,family,friends etc and never ever leave your little "safe zone" or #2 you do whatever you have to do to feel safe, to feel protected and to best get on with your life no matter what it is you have to do, even if that means being issued a special government issued gun license that permits you to carry a concealed weapon in a country (Canada) that would normally consider it illegal.
    So if you want to call me a criminal go right ahead, we just have two different definitions of the word, I define "Criminal" as the people that made me have to do this, while you would call me a "Criminal" for having enough self worth and self preservation for getting on with my life as best as I can. I didn`t choose this.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32786 posts
    June 27, 2013 at 12:26 am
    @grimfusion: While I`d tend to agree with @Musuko42 on this in general? YOUR point about "don`t flash a gun unless you intend to use it" is more important. I understand "display of arms" can avoid a violent situation, but if yo "pull it out" it had better be loaded...

    @Finker: Don`t worry bro, he does this quite often. While I think @Musuko42 is an "OK Guy" he seems to have issues... like ME! (lolz!)

    I think @Finkers`s post have been the most consistent, sane and rational in this thread. Not that the helps on IAB or anything...
    (@Broizfam gets second place! lolz!)
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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    June 27, 2013 at 4:50 am
    @broizfam, again I agree with all of that which is why I found the original comment ok but not alongside him saying he was anit-gun. to me that is a group that try to limit gun use to avoid the situation you describe.
    Thanks 5cats, I sometimes begin to wonder if I am sane after a few posts on here - must try harder to stick to inane comments, much simpler, and probably more in keeping.

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