Chrysler Says No To NHTSA Recall Request

Submitted by: richanddead 3 years ago

Chrysler is refusing to recall is line of Jeeps. Risky or brave?
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Male 559
Maybe chrysler was the car company from fight club.

You all rememberthe formula? It was the Narrators job as a recall co-ordinator to apply the formula.

On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero...
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Male 2,592
I deal with Chrysler on a daily basis. No other company acts like their sh.it doesn`t stink like these people. They demand you run your business the way THEY want you to run it, or no business for you. They`ll audit your facility as if they`re UN weapons inspectors. They are quite pushy and rude over the phone, even when they are clearly in the wrong.
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Male 1,737
Lots of cars have the gas tanks there, none of them seem to be an issue.
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Male 291
I own a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee.....no splosions so far
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Male 1,627
so every jeep grand Cherokee from 1996 to 2005 and less then 10 fatalities from accidents involving the gas tank leaking and catching fire. c`mon! its 2013, if it was a real defect there will be millions of incidents and close to 1,000 fatalities if not greater.
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Male 160
under 100 instances refers to the typical number of fires for a specific vehicle/MY not the total number of rear end collision fires.
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Male 160
There is nothing wrong with jeep tanks. Yes you can argue that midship tanks are less likely to be involved in a rear end collision fire and that HDPE tanks are better than steel. However, Jeep made the switch to the standard midship HDPE tank at the same time everyone else did and their tanks often have the SAME OEM PART NUMBER as vehicles from other manufacturers. Also the raw data from nhtsa collision reports doesn`t show a statically significant trend. Rear end collision fires are extremely rare. We are dealing with under 100 instances and this will lead to low data resolution. On top of this there are many vehicles with similar rates from other manufacturers. A few fires out of BILLIONS of Vehicle*miles is not a design issue. You have high velocity impacts with vehicles holding a flammable material. Despite this fires are still rare. Also fires are one of the least common ways to die in a accident. So even if this was an issue why does it matter? useless lawyers >.&
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Male 244
GOOD FOR THEM drat THE FEDS!
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Male 17,512
The NHTSA got this one wrong folks. Jeeps are not unsafe and this report`s claim of `exposed` gas tanks is rather erroneous.

Over 200,000 gasoline powered cars catch fire every year. That fact was brought up when the Chevy Volts started catching on fire and had to be recalled.

Yes, some people have died in Jeeps, as well as every other make of car with a gas tank. And those deaths are tragic, but they aren`t a result of a defective product.

Even NASCAR race cars have caught fire and they use the most safe fuel cells, and high strength steel roll cages around them, ever designed for automobiles.

Cherry picking stats isn`t science, actual testing needs to be done here, adding crying relatives doesn`t help the situation.
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Male 3,949
I`ve seen a ton of jeep accidents, one really horrible one comes to mind. Last year I was processing a jeep that had a bloody white sheet in it (means someone died), what was left of him was sort of painted across the ceiling. I found a picture of his two little girls, maybe 4-5 the other was maybe 8-10. On the back it said "to the greatest daddy in the world, we love you daddy." It was a bad day.

Most deaths in jeeps including that one, at least that I see, are from cars that hit them on the side and forces the jeep to roll over or down an embankment. I see a lot of toasted cars, the fire usually starts in the engine or at the steering wheel.
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Male 37,888

I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee and I`m totally safe in it.
51 fires out of 2,700,000 cars.... that is statistically so low you can`t call this a design flaw. ANY vehicle can catch fire in the right circumstances.

On the other hand, I would like a new car so a recall would probably get me more money than selling it.
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Male 2,416
my my pmarren! i agree with you. if you want safe by a volvo or a subaru. some other cars even, and stay the hell away from chrysler. they make nice looking cars. but safe? hah!
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Male 4,594
Too bad about the kid becoming toast, but I`d have told them to Fu*k-off too. I suppose next they`ll recall every motorcycle ever made because its gas tank is exposed and in the "crush-zone" (whatever the hell that is) of the bike.

Perhaps they want Chrysler to put the gas tank in the passenger compartment, strapped into the front seat, with it`s own air-bag.

F-ing ridiculous. You want a super-safe car, get a Volvo. Let the buyer decide what they want. Companies will sell what the consumer will pay for.
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Male 3,949
Link: Chrysler Says No To NHTSA Recall Request [Rate Link] - Chrysler is refusing to recall is line of Jeeps. Risky or brave?
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