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Date: 06/06/13 08:06 AM

14 Responses to Chrysler Says No To NHTSA Recall Request

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    richanddead Male 18-29
    3509 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 8:06 am
    Link: Chrysler Says No To NHTSA Recall Request - Chrysler is refusing to recall is line of Jeeps. Risky or brave?
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    pmarren Male 40-49
    4575 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 8:38 am
    Too bad about the kid becoming toast, but I`d have told them to Fu*k-off too. I suppose next they`ll recall every motorcycle ever made because its gas tank is exposed and in the "crush-zone" (whatever the hell that is) of the bike.

    Perhaps they want Chrysler to put the gas tank in the passenger compartment, strapped into the front seat, with it`s own air-bag.

    F-ing ridiculous. You want a super-safe car, get a Volvo. Let the buyer decide what they want. Companies will sell what the consumer will pay for.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 9:11 am
    my my pmarren! i agree with you. if you want safe by a volvo or a subaru. some other cars even, and stay the hell away from chrysler. they make nice looking cars. but safe? hah!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36834 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 9:27 am

    I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee and I`m totally safe in it.
    51 fires out of 2,700,000 cars.... that is statistically so low you can`t call this a design flaw. ANY vehicle can catch fire in the right circumstances.

    On the other hand, I would like a new car so a recall would probably get me more money than selling it.
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    richanddead Male 18-29
    3509 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 9:40 am
    I`ve seen a ton of jeep accidents, one really horrible one comes to mind. Last year I was processing a jeep that had a bloody white sheet in it (means someone died), what was left of him was sort of painted across the ceiling. I found a picture of his two little girls, maybe 4-5 the other was maybe 8-10. On the back it said "to the greatest daddy in the world, we love you daddy." It was a bad day.

    Most deaths in jeeps including that one, at least that I see, are from cars that hit them on the side and forces the jeep to roll over or down an embankment. I see a lot of toasted cars, the fire usually starts in the engine or at the steering wheel.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 9:45 am
    The NHTSA got this one wrong folks. Jeeps are not unsafe and this report`s claim of `exposed` gas tanks is rather erroneous.

    Over 200,000 gasoline powered cars catch fire every year. That fact was brought up when the Chevy Volts started catching on fire and had to be recalled.

    Yes, some people have died in Jeeps, as well as every other make of car with a gas tank. And those deaths are tragic, but they aren`t a result of a defective product.

    Even NASCAR race cars have caught fire and they use the most safe fuel cells, and high strength steel roll cages around them, ever designed for automobiles.

    Cherry picking stats isn`t science, actual testing needs to be done here, adding crying relatives doesn`t help the situation.
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    EVILLECUTTER Male 18-29
    244 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 9:46 am
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    mystery08 Male 18-29
    160 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 11:25 am
    There is nothing wrong with jeep tanks. Yes you can argue that midship tanks are less likely to be involved in a rear end collision fire and that HDPE tanks are better than steel. However, Jeep made the switch to the standard midship HDPE tank at the same time everyone else did and their tanks often have the SAME OEM PART NUMBER as vehicles from other manufacturers. Also the raw data from nhtsa collision reports doesn`t show a statically significant trend. Rear end collision fires are extremely rare. We are dealing with under 100 instances and this will lead to low data resolution. On top of this there are many vehicles with similar rates from other manufacturers. A few fires out of BILLIONS of Vehicle*miles is not a design issue. You have high velocity impacts with vehicles holding a flammable material. Despite this fires are still rare. Also fires are one of the least common ways to die in a accident. So even if this was an issue why does it matter? useless lawyers >.&
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    mystery08 Male 18-29
    160 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 11:29 am
    under 100 instances refers to the typical number of fires for a specific vehicle/MY not the total number of rear end collision fires.
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    Kaagan Male 18-29
    1601 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm
    so every jeep grand Cherokee from 1996 to 2005 and less then 10 fatalities from accidents involving the gas tank leaking and catching fire. c`mon! its 2013, if it was a real defect there will be millions of incidents and close to 1,000 fatalities if not greater.
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    insanmonster Male 18-29
    291 posts
    June 6, 2013 at 10:42 pm
    I own a 2001 Jeep Grand splosions so far
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    EgalM Male 30-39
    1707 posts
    June 7, 2013 at 5:33 am
    Lots of cars have the gas tanks there, none of them seem to be an issue.
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    keith2 Male 30-39
    2589 posts
    June 7, 2013 at 8:00 pm
    I deal with Chrysler on a daily basis. No other company acts like their doesn`t stink like these people. They demand you run your business the way THEY want you to run it, or no business for you. They`ll audit your facility as if they`re UN weapons inspectors. They are quite pushy and rude over the phone, even when they are clearly in the wrong.
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    trippyhippy9 Male 18-29
    559 posts
    June 8, 2013 at 6:16 am
    Maybe chrysler was the car company from fight club.

    You all rememberthe formula? It was the Narrators job as a recall co-ordinator to apply the formula.

    On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero...

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