Barbara Walters Makes Excuses For Maher

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Bill Maher called Trig Palin ""retarded"" yesterday. Picking on a politicians disabled child? Not cool. Story in credits
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Male 38,361
@HolyGod: So you openly admit to deliberately changing the subject? Good for you!

You have no defense, or anything to say, so you start a different discussion by attacking `conservatives` and thus changing the subject. Typical. At least you`ve admitted it now.

[quote]Context matters.[/quote]
Exactly correct! What Baba is TRYING to do is frame the context to make Maher`s `joke` not offensive. She fails utterly, THAT is the topic of the post! `K?
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Male 8,301
MeGrendel

"I knew you had a reading comprehension problem, but I thought even YOU could follow the title of the thread:

For future reference, the topic of conversation usually appears at the top of the page and looks something like this: "

Hahahaha. Ya. Totally. And debates on here NEVER deviate one iota from the precise topic of the original post. Go ahead and be a dick if you wish, but my first comment had NOTHING to do with the view, nor did your 1st response to me, or my 1st response to you.
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Male 7,889
HolyGod-"Why not make it as readily available as possible?"

It`s readily available to everyone. Just walk into a Walmart, a 7-11 or any other store. It`s everywhere.

Just don`t expect others to pay for it. (You know, self-responsibility..that IS a conservative point.)

HolyGod-"THAT is what we`ve been arguing about? Who gives a s.hit about the view?"

I knew you had a reading comprehension problem, but I thought even YOU could follow the title of the thread:

For future reference, the topic of conversation usually appears at the top of the page and looks something like this:
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Male 8,301
MeGrendel

"If she`s expecting others to pay for her birth control"

It AMAZES me that conservatives have a problem with this. Don`t you want fewer abortions? Fewer people on food stamps? Fewer people on welfare? Fewer burdens on the justice system and society? I do. Birth control helps stop those future issues. Why not make it as readily available as possible?

"Now, do you plan on arguing that The View is not hypocritical?"

THAT is what we`ve been arguing about? Who gives a s.hit about the view? I`ve never watched it once. Odonnel, goldberg, bayhar, and hassleback ALL make my skin crawl the moment they open their mouth. Barbra walters has always struck me as self important and agrandizing.

I thought we were debating whether it is a big deal that Maher called a retarded kid retard.

The view may well be hypocritical. Doesn`t mean conservatives have a right to be hypocritical back.
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Male 7,889
HolyGod-"She wasn`t a slut."

If she`s expecting others to pay for her birth control, I think she qualifies.

HolyGod-"if you happen to like Limbaugh or think he is really accurate"

You really have a comprehension problem, don`t you.

Everyone has freedom of speech. The difference is the hypocrisy of the subject of this particular thread.

Limbaugh calls a chick a slut. She gets a call from the president about how `brave` she is, and The View is talking about how `horrible` it is and thinks he should be removed from the air.

Shultz calls a chick a slut. But as he`s a liberal and she is a conservative, The View laughs about it.

Maher intentionally insults a child, but as he`s a liberal and the kids mother is a conservative, The View `explains` how `it`s really not that bad.`

Now, do you plan on arguing that The View is not hypocritical?
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Male 38,361
@HolyGod: you know what`s a FACT? The RACE CARD being played at every opportunity for a CERTAIN Niger President, that`s what! Kenya? Close enough.

Trig Palin never did NO HARM to anyone on this planet, yet the LIBERALS attack him like he`s the anti-Christ`s nasty cousin!

And YOU (@HG) fully support this? Not nice. Go sit in the corner with Baba Wawa with a dunce-cap on...
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Male 8,301
MeGrendel

"My posts have been pointing out the FACT that had a conservative said something derogatory about Obama`s children, all hell would have broken loose."

I wouldn`t have.

"My posts have been about the hypocrisy of The View calling for Limbaugh to be taken off the air for calling a girl a `slut`"

She wasn`t a slut. Palin`s kid is retarded. Kinda different no?

Although again, I have no problem with Limbaugh saying whatever he wants. But, if you happen to like Limbaugh or think he is really accurate in his commentary then I think you should wear a shirt that says so. Then I can avoid interaction with you at any cost.
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Male 7,889
MeGrendel-"What I can ALSO say is I`m pretty sure you have spoken out against people being overly PC but now that someone on your team is on the receiving end it is a big no no."

Then you haven`t been paying attention to my post.

I have not said he should not have said it (although I did say the term was derogatory).

My posts have been pointing out the FACT that had a conservative said something derogatory about Obama`s children, all hell would have broken loose.

My posts have been about the hypocrisy of The View calling for Limbaugh to be taken off the air for calling a girl a `slut`, and yet laughs at Ed Schultz calling Laura Ingraham the same thing, and then `explains` why Maher calling a child `retarded` is not a big deal.

I realize asking for a little consistency from liberals is absurd, but we can point out their failure to accomplish such.
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Male 8,301
MeGrendel

"Wow, seems like one is considered `okay` while the other is censored.

Now why is that?"

Dunno. I can`t speak for the people that run IAB. Or all liberals. Or all people. Or anyone other than me.

I think it is pretty apparent I don`t f.ucking give a s.hit about IAB`s silly juvenile censorship by the fact that I bypass it fairly constantly.

What I CAN say is that I have been against censorship, ANY censorship whether it is directed to or from a liberal or a conservative, pretty much my whole life.

What I can ALSO say is I`m pretty sure you have spoken out against people being overly PC but now that someone on your team is on the receiving end it is a big no no.
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Male 7,889
jtrebowski-"Conservatives are now fighting for political correctness."

Nope, just conservatives pointing out liberal hypocrisy. (It`s really easy to do, after all there`s more examples of it every single day).

HolyGod-"But now we have sites talking about "The R word"? That`s just f.ucking retarded."

Let`s try an experment. Words are devoid of malice, it`s how they are used. So I`m going to type two simple little words:

I am a racist!

Retarded

Wow, seems like one is considered `okay` while the other is censored.

Now why is that?
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Female 1,380
re·tard·ed
/riˈtärdid/
Adjective
Less advanced, esp. mentally, than is usual for one`s age.

trig palin is retarded.....
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Male 8,301
Hahahahahahahaha

Do I have to go back and copy quotes on this site about "being too PC" from all the conservatives on here now saying words are off limits?

Saying a retarded person is "special needs" is like saying a short person is "vertically challenged". Get a grip people.

Context matters. Was it a mean joke about the kid? If so that seems totally in poor taste. However if the joke is something like: "Sarah and Todd Palin recently said ....., you know I am starting to think the smartest person in that family is the retarded 5 year old" that`s different.

Being mean to a kid, any kid, is wrong. But now we have sites talking about "The R word"? That`s just f.ucking retarded.
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Male 3,364
Conservatives are now fighting for political correctness. I`ve seen everything now.
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Male 159
babawawa is a old stupid see you next tuesday...

whoopie is disgusting on every level...
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Male 227
Maher is a pompous, self righteous douche nozzle, and I am no Palin fan either.
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Male 527
I`ve always said the worst part of Bill Mahar`s show is Bill himself. He plays at being a serious pundit right up until he says something stupid, then hides and claims he`s just a comedian.

Must be nice to never have to change your opinions just because they turn out to be more wrong than you thought.
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Male 114
If it came out of Palin, there`s a good chance it`s retarded. Don`t see the big deal
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Male 7,889
Gerry1of1-"Obama is in fact a politician. Palins are reality show stars now."

So, both public figures.

Gerry1of1-"She put the kids out there"

And Obama puts his kids out there, anytime they are good for a photo op.

But for some reason, HIS kids are `off limits`.
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Male 38,738

McGrendel, I see your point but the two aren`t parallel. Obama is in fact a politician. Palins are reality show stars now. She put the kids out there and there is always negative cometary about all tv personalities.

Also, when Maher did go too far about the sex lives of the palin girls {under age} he was slammed down hard by the media.
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Male 7,889
Gerry1of1-" I wouldn`t have said it, it`s rude, but it`s accurate."

But, had a conservative said the same about, say a child of Obama, all hell would have broken loose, he`d be getting death threats and the media would be calling for his head, not making excuses.

carmium-"Retarded was not derogatory in the beginning; it was an improvement over once..."

Niger (with an additional N) was not derogatory in the beginning; it was an improvement over once... (you beginning to see how rediculous you sound. It doesn`t matter what it USED to be, it matters the fact that it is derogaroty NOW, as that`s the context he used it.
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Male 2,552
I agree with PirateWillis. That`s like excusing the use of the word "n*gger" because it was what was once used.
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Male 78
Where/when did Bill Maher say that? On air? I can`t find any footage to put it in context.

But anyway, I think it`s a poor choice of word. The meaning of "retarded" has changed as they say. Sarah Palin`s son isn`t retarded. He`s mentally challeged. Sarah Palin however, is retarded.
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Female 6,381
Retarded was not derogatory in the beginning; it was an improvement over once-medical terms like idiot and moron. Whoopi is exactly right there. "Retard" is now an insult for someone doing something bone-headed, and it`s as inappropriate to use on disabled people as any other negative term.
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Male 38,361
@patchy: A perfect clip! Thx!

Imagine the bloodbath that would ensue if someone called Whoopie the n-word? Yeah, Whoopie would be totally forgiving about it... NOT!
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Male 22
B-but, he is retarded?
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Male 38,738

Palin isn`t a politician. She`s not in office. She was forced out of office during an ethics investigation, by leaving office early the investigation stopped. She then put her family in a reality show. They are reality show stars now. You can pick on tv personalities all you want.

The kid has retarded development due to dow syndrome. He is in fact "retarded". I wouldn`t have said it, it`s rude, but it`s accurate.
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Male 3,842
"Retarded" is not the politically correct term for a child with Down Syndrome. Bill Maher`s television show is called Politically Incorrect. It was intentional. Bill Maher thinks it is funny to be an non-nice individual. And I mean butthole, not what the censor said.
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Male 2,390
To say that Maher didn`t know what he was saying is ridiculous. He knew exactly what he was doing. Comedian or not there are boundaries. He`s an adult.
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Male 5,811
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Male 38,361
3:00 Elizabeth gives Barbara a spanking! The audience approves!
Contrasted by the dead silence after Barbara`s excuse-making...

Really BW? A professional comedian in the 21st Century DOESN`T KNOW that "retarded" MIGHT OFFEND someone? Really?

What`s worse?
A) A `comedian` who slanders a Downs Syndrome child?
B) A host who willfully defends this action?

I vote: B
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Male 143
Excuses?? Oh sorry my Grandfather called you a I am a racist!, that was just what they called black people back then. There isn`t an excuse, it`s not like Bill Maher was under a rock for half a century and didn`t know better. Like all of his "comedy," he was just attacking Trig Palin because saying bad things about conservatives is "cool." I never thought Bill Maher was that funny to begin with; he came off snobbish and as though being liberal automatically makes you more intelligent and a better person...Obviously not if this is his standard.
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Male 2,508
I don`t mind the word. It`s just why bring up her kid to begin with? That`s just out of bounds to anybody with a sense of decency which Maher most certainly lacks. Lots of political figures piss me off and I`ve got some strong opinions about their actions but I wouldn`t drag their family into it.
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Male 38,361
Link: Barbara Walters Makes Excuses For Maher [Rate Link] - Bill Maher called Trig Palin ``retarded`` yesterday. Picking on a politicians disabled child? Not cool. Story in credits
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