Transgender Forced Sterilization In Europe [Pic+]

Submitted by: richanddead 3 years ago in

Europe is in to eugenics again.
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Male 14,334
@Draculya

Hmmm well gay people for one.
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Male 14,834
This whole thing is dumb. Who in their right minds give a Flying F what gay people do?
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Male 12,365
If we just acknowledged the fact that sex and gender are completely different things, it would solve a lot of problems.

I`ll use myself as an example. I`m male. That`s sex, not gender.

I could use clothing, hairstyling, make-up, maybe even cosmetic surgery, to make myself look more feminine. I could use diet and exercise to give myself a more feminine shape (I do weight training, so I have an increasingly masculine shape). I could change my name to a feminine name. I could train my speech to use a more feminine pitch. All of that is about gender (masculinity and feminity) and not sex (male and female). I`d still be male. I`d be a very feminine man, but I`d still be a man.

To change *sex*, I`d have to have hormone treatment and sex change surgery. If you don`t do that, you haven`t changed sex. You may have changed your gender, but you haven`t changed your sex.
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Female 6,381
So... what some people want is to allow is, say, a male to be able to simply claim he is female, change his name and gender legally, dress like a woman, use the women`s washroom, and never have to undergo any reassignment treatment? Am I understanding this right?
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Male 1,421
What is this crap? I`ve never heard anything like this, not even remotely close to it..It`s one of those occasions where you`re looking for that Onion mark. I still won`t believe that this is true, forced sterilization hasn`t happened in decades.
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Male 4,075
@fabarati: do you know what their rationale was? Was it political, religious, moral, economic? How did they conduct their hold out?

My comp can`t translate half these pages and the ones in english are politically slanted and vague.
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Male 38,483

Oh, back on topic, forced sterilization is heinous
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Male 1,240
The reason why Sweden`s law wasn`t changed earlier was that one of the parties in the ruling government coalition, the Christian Democrats, had been holding out and threatened to derail the entire coalition. Otherwise 3 out of the 4 ruling parties and 6 out of the 8 parties in the parliament wanted to change it. They were recently overruled.
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Male 16
Andrew ... what the hell is wrong with you? I can make ANYONE`S comment racist if I get to remove any words of my choice, and add in racist words of my choice. Your an idiot.
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Male 4,075
@Saunder: I believe it will happen in Sweden until July 1, 2013 when the law is officially removed and rewritten. In the article it also says "Sweden`s law will change soon" and it was written in 2013.
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Male 181
Shocked to read this, and kind of relieved it is old news. At least in both Holland and Sweden this does not happen anymore. But it did up until at least 2011. That`s quite embarrassing.
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Male 4,075
Eugenics should never enter into a political theater, regardless if you agree or disagree with the people who are subject to it.



"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me."

-Martin Niemoller
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Male 4,075
@Gerry1of1: I would agree with your statement, I didn`t write the laws. Yet in this case, "WHAT IS" is that people are being forcibly sterilized for how they wish to be seen. However they may have come to the idea that they were really another sex.

Imagine if people who were gay were told they were to be sterilized if they came out because homosexuals can`t reproduce with the same sex. That "WHAT IS" is that sex is primarily for reproductive purposes only "and not just wish for what it was for." I`m not saying that this is necessarily true or that you support that logic, merely that the moral argument is the same and that given time this can spread to any set of parameters as @MasterJedi79 pointed out.



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Male 38,483

[quote]"it does not matter if they have actually undergone a sex reassignment surgery. Only if they wish to be known as another sex legally."[/quote]
That is just the sort of soft-headed thinking that is ruining the modern world. We need to learn how to deal with WHAT IS and not just wish for what we want. I want the world to treat me as though I looked like Ryan Reynolds, but wishing don`t make is so.
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Male 2,578
masterjedi, replace hicks with black people (who behave in basically the same way), and you`re racist.
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Male 4,075
@Gerry1of1: "You might be in the process of changing, but until that`s done, you haven`t trans`ed over to the other gender."

As I said before, it does not matter if they have actually undergone a sex reassignment surgery. Only if they wish to be known as another sex legally. Many can`t afford it and instead just fill out the legal documents to change as they are known to the government, thats all that is needed for forced serialization to be put into effect.

Legally speaking, someone is considered transsexual if they have permanently established a new identity in a gender different to their biological sex as identified at birth, it does not necessitate a physical change. A cross-dresser with their original organs could be considered a transgender individual if they wish to be known as the sex opposite from which they were born and would therefore be subject to these laws.
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Male 16
Thank God! We need to adopt this law in the USA!
Then just add in sterilizing all the toothless, illiterate, nascar watching hicks and America would be back on top!!
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Male 38,483

[quote]"there are cases like Thomas Beatie "the pregnant man.""[/quote]
She never had the "trans" in transgender. She took testosterone to grow a beard and cut her boobs off. But as long as you have a functioning vagina you are not a man. Conversely, if you have functioning testicles you`re no lady. Eddie Murphy found that out the hard way.

You might be in the process of changing, but until that`s done, you haven`t trans`ed over to the other gender.
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Male 4,075
Interestingly enough though the Iranian government`s "solution" for homosexuality is to endorse, and fully pay for, sex reassignment surgery.

@Gerry1of1: not always, there are cases like Thomas Beatie "the pregnant man." But they don`t need to have the surgery just the change in legal documents.

@fancythat and @whipplefunk: yea there were other articals I could have used like this one, at motherjones.com but this was more current and I thought the name Gaystarnews was histerical just because of people like you guys who problably wouldn`t care anyways. lol

@Byfield: Thats where stem cells come into play.

@Geogypsy: You`re right it doesn`t require the surgery to force sterilization, just the change in legal documents.
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Male 2,549
One needn`t change their physical sex to identify under the vast umbrella of transgenderism.
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Male 464
I agree with this. If you are truly not that gender, you dont need the opposite gender`s genitals. I think its fraudulent, really. Its just a bit unsettling - gender is assigned by genitals and genomes, and to me it always will be.

And I dont really care where the law falls - peoples hould be able to do what they please when they please. Ive known a couple of transgendered people and I dont dislike them for it - they`re admirable in being able to do what they want when it is such a hard feat.
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Male 1,151
You just made me click to enter a site called gaystarnews.... So now thats happened...
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Male 1,950
How do you not trust the gay star news? Where *else* am I going to get my latest & greatest news stories from?
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Female 7,866
How vile- why do we care about gender anyway.. be what you want to be.
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Male 38,483

Transgenders are mules, they`re infertile.
They want to sterilize them before they get their nuts taken out?
What`s the point of that when the nuts are gonna get removed?
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Male 4,075
Sweden`s forced sterilization law is set to be rewritten and removed from the books by July 1, 2013. Until then though it is still on the books.
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Male 4,075
Link: Transgender Forced Sterilization In Europe [Pic+] [Rate Link] - Europe is in to eugenics again.
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