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    gingernut333 Female 18-29
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    May 3, 2013 at 10:03 am
    Link: THIS Is A Valid Point - It shouldn`t even be an issue. My body my choice.
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    Keyh Male 18-29
    226 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 10:11 am
    Your choice is not having sex whenever you don`t want to have a kid.

    Your choice shouldn`t be whether or not to kill a living thing.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 10:14 am
    Well, it`s not wrong.
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2013 at 10:15 am
    So your saying it`s only men who are pro-life?

    Well, that`s cool, but then I should be able to knock up all the girls I want and say "but your honor it was her body and therefore her choice, I shouldn`t have to pay child support, this shouldn`t even be an issue."
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2013 at 10:16 am
    In what world is birth control an issue?

    Do they mean abortion?
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    7066 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 10:17 am
    But ... but life is sacred.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 10:17 am
    In what world is birth control an issue?
    Don`t pay much attention to your own country`s news?
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2013 at 10:33 am
    This relies on the assumption that all women support the right to abortion.

    I`m pro-choice, but I`m just saying this wouldn`t work.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33126 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 10:38 am
    @Keyh: Correct sir!
    @richanddead: Also correct!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Better that than abortion.
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    McThstlpnts Female 18-29
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    May 3, 2013 at 11:09 am
    @LandoGriffin Birth control, along with abortion, is still an issue in the States. For example, some Insurance companies are trying to get out of having to cover birth control under their policies citing religious reasons.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2013 at 11:45 am

    The biological purpose of sex is to make a baby.
    If you want to engage in and adult activity, you need to be an adult and stop whining. If you don`t want to have a baby, get birth control. Don`t tell me it`s expensive, Condoms Are Cheap and any other kind of birth control is far cheaper than a baby.

    Just `cause you want to have sex does not mean the guv`ment is required to buy your pills or implants. Just `cause you were too stupid or lazy to get condoms does not mean the guv`ment has to pay for your abortion. And just `cause you`re too ignorant to act like an adult does not mean the guv`ment has to pay the bills for you and your unwanted bastards.

    Grow Up America.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
    3844 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 12:20 pm
    My point is that you can buy a rubber for less than a dollar in any state in the U.S. - it is perfectly legal to practice birth control.

    Then again, my health insurance paid for my wife`s birth control pills before we started having children, paid for her D and C whenever we miscarried in the process of having our three children, and paid for my vasectomy once we were done having them, so I guess it isn`t an issue for me. And my insurance is from my job working for the State of California. I remember how some employers refused to pay for birth control on their insurance for religious reasons, which was challenged in congress (which can make no law establishing an official religion) but I didn`t think it was commonplace.
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    YANKmyDOODLE Male 30-39
    771 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 12:21 pm
    @Gerry, There is no biological reason for appendixes yet not everybody wants theirs removed.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    May 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    I can`t STAND when people say they can`t afford birth control - when you are not insured a gyno office will do ANYTHING to help you out - for example, they will give you a script for 6 months or whatever, but then they`ll throw in six packs for free - sh*t like that - FFS they will give you as many free condoms as you could possibly ever want - it is inconceivable to me that anyone who doesn`t want to have a baby but wants to pork does not use birth control. It`s sheer lazy lazy laziness. I actually pay more for everything becuase I have insurance than when I didn`t.

    Oh, yeah, this is about abortion. Whatevs :/
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    maggierose78 Female 18-29
    688 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 1:50 pm
    If an abortion is an elective procedure, and going through with the pregnancy would not cause any short-term or long-term harm to the mother, then I feel the insurance companies should not have to pay for the abortion.

    Plastic surgery, gender reassignment surgery, and certain types of gastric bypass surgeries are not covered by insurance because they are considered elective. An abortion is an elective medical process,

    Because of this, I can understand why Insurance companies do not want to pay for abortions. If they start paying for certain elective processes, law suits requiring them to pay for all elective processes will arise. Thus costing more money, increasing medical costs all around, and various financial ramifications.

    If the MD believes that going through the pregnancy will cause too much medical damage to the woman, and he/she recommends an abortion, it is not an elective process. If the Doc believes opposite, then it`s an elective process,
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2013 at 1:51 pm
    baby killers
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    chicagojay Male 40-49
    2018 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    If men carried the babies, I am 100% certain that all women would be against abortion. And men would deal with it. Like bosses.
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    maggierose78 Female 18-29
    688 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    Chicagojay. I believe firmly in what Rita Rudner said about men and pregnancy. She said that if men ahd babies there would be a one child per family limit and the first labor pain that hit, the man would be begging to be knocked out.

    Men cry at being kicked in the nuts
    Women are out of the hospital practically the same day after being in labor for 18 hours

    Furthermore, my sister did not have any cartildge in her right knee. It was bone scraping against bone. Her doc told her that grown men would come in crying because of the pain. She didn`t complain one bit. She had this pain, she had the medication, and she knew that she had to go on with her life.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13631 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 2:30 pm
    If men carried babies
    they would be out in a few hours of conception
    we dont muck about
    (Just jesting):-P
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
    1803 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 2:38 pm
    My friend wanted to get his wife of 4 months to have an abortion when he accidentally discovered a positive pregnancy test. Why? Cos he wanted a MBA, few nice holidays and a BMW open top car first. Babies could wait for a few years. Yes he was v serious, especially about the BMW.

    I calmed him down (with effort) and told him to chill and sleep. He didn`t change his mind. So I told him to chill some more, and def not tell her what he was thinking.

    Anyway, I fortunately stalled him until 20 weeks, after which it`s v difficult to find someone who`ll do an abortion in the UK (apparently after 24 it`s illegal).

    End result is jr turned up all safe and sound, and after a wobbly first 2 weeks, Dad`s madly in love with him.

    Despite being Hindu and not having such a concept in Hinduism, he asked me to be his Godfather on the basis that his son needed a mentor with his head screwed on straighter than his own. I said yes.

    Mum still doesn`t know wh
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
    1803 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 2:55 pm
    My friend wanted to get his wife of 4 months to have an abortion when he accidentally discovered a positive pregnancy test. Why? Cos he wanted a MBA, few nice holidays and a BMW open top car first. Babies could wait for a few years. Yes he was v serious, especially about the BMW.

    I calmed him down (with effort) and told him to chill and sleep. He didn`t change his mind. So I told him to chill some more, and def not tell her what he was thinking.

    Anyway, I fortunately stalled him until 20 weeks, after which it`s v difficult to find someone who`ll do an abortion in the UK (apparently after 24 it`s illegal).

    End result is jr turned up all safe and sound, and after a wobbly first 2 weeks, Dad`s madly in love with him.

    Despite being Hindu and not having such a concept in Hinduism, he asked me to be his Godfather on the basis that his son needed a mentor with his head screwed on straighter than his own. I said yes.

    Mum still doesn`t know wh
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    richanddead Male 18-29
    3513 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 3:22 pm
    @YANKmyDOODLE: The biological function of the appendix is to produce certain Endocrine cells in fetuses, that produce various biogenic amines and peptide hormones, compounds that assist with various biological control (homeostatic) mechanisms.

    It is also where lymphoid tissue begins to accumulate assisting with the maturation of B lymphocytes and in the production of the class of antibodies known as IGA antibodies.

    It also holds a wealth of different probiotic bacteria that can be used to restart the gut after after diseases like cholera or dysentery wipe out entire strains of them.


    @Fwoggie2: I consider you to have saved a life, kudos.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36850 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    If men carried babies we wouldn`t need all those special protections or laws.

    If men carried babies you can bet your ass they`d wear condoms!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36850 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    YanknyDoodle "@Gerry, There is no biological reason for appendixes yet not everybody wants theirs removed."
    [Huh? That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
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    RytWing Male 30-39
    316 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 10:36 pm
    Ladies. CLOSE YOUR LEGS! Problem solved.
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    Sleepyhallow Male 50-59
    1983 posts
    May 4, 2013 at 2:05 am
    The bible clearly states that life begins when the first breath is drawn .

    Leviticus says if you intentionally kill a man`s wife you will be put to death but if you kill an unborn in the womb you must pay a fine of 2 goats.

    No amount of post-interpretations can justify your ignorance.

    An Egg is not a chicken
    An Acorn is not a tree
    a Zygote is not a person.

    Quite trying to force *your* version of Sharia law on the rest of us.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
    1677 posts
    May 4, 2013 at 3:27 am
    Your body, your choice. If you don`t want to risk breaking your legs then make the choice to not throw your body off a building. If you don`t want to risk getting pregnant, then make the choice to not let someone spunk inside of you. If you make the other choices available here then grow up and deal with the consequences. Its not complicated.
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    Lednar Male 18-29
    109 posts
    May 4, 2013 at 4:00 am
    Yes please, I vote for this to happen asap. With the added condition of no switching back. If the male gets the baby, he can not switch back.

    PD: Also I wish to make castration a penal sentence for those unwanted members of the society like rapists, child molesters, politicians, bankers, etc. End of the line, literally.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
    1803 posts
    May 4, 2013 at 8:31 am
    My stance is once she`s pregnant it`s tough luck for the Man whether she keeps it or not. I`d be devastated if my future missus got pregnant and then wanted an abortion, and I`d try every trick in the book (verbally, not physically), but if she was THAT insistent, legally there should be nothing to stop her. It`s her body, not mine.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3447 posts
    May 4, 2013 at 9:43 am
    Someone is having deep thoughts of the impossible. (what if...)
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
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    May 4, 2013 at 11:55 am
    Yes, but what if then, the baby would suddenly grow into adulthood with a shot from an adulthood-ray-gun. Then, we use a time machine that also creates parallel doppelganger, then that doppelganger is impregnated with the seed of itself, and must give birth to itself, but back in time, so it`s the correct age to be impregnated?!

    THEN WHAT?! HUH?!?!! HUHHHH??!?!?!!?!?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm
    I believe firmly in what Rita Rudner said about men and pregnancy. She said that if men ahd babies there would be a one child per family limit and the first labor pain that hit, the man would be begging to be knocked out. Men cry at being kicked in the nuts

    Are you really that much of a silly ignorant bigot, or are you just trolling?

    There`s no reason to think men having babieswould be any different to women having babies. No doubt there would be a fair few men who were sexist enought to use childbirth as a pathetic excuse to make up untestable claims that they were deluded enough to think were evidence that their silly sexism was rational, like there are a fair few women who do that now. There would probably even be some men with as much contempt for women as you have for men.

    Every test that attempted to determine pain endurance in an unbiased way showed higher average figures for men than for women or no average difference.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 4, 2013 at 4:17 pm
    If men carried the babies, I am 100% certain that all women would be against abortion. And men would deal with it. Like bosses.

    And I`m sure you`re as wrong as the blithering sexist who replied to you.

    If men had babies, abortion and related issues would probably be more of an issue simply because collectively women have more political power than men. It`s wildly unrealistic to think that feminism would either disappear or support men having all the power over such a crucial part of life.

    It`s also wildly unrealistic to think that 100% of women would take a feminist position on the subject.

    Finally, it`s wildly unrealistic to all men would deal with anything in any particularly way. It`s rather more likely that in general there would be no change and people would endure it because babies are worth it and they`d take whatever pain relief was available.

    Or was your post just bait to see who`d bite at it and go ranting?
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    SavageChef Female 50-59
    2692 posts
    May 4, 2013 at 10:21 pm
    If I were a man, I would worry that every time I <!*%$>ed, I might be responsible for a human life. On the other hand, as a woman, I know GD and good and well that I would be, without a doubt, responsible for a human life. It`s called birth control, boys and girls. Use it.

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