Common Sense! [Pic]

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 3 years ago Misc

It might be catching on! I think I like this new guy.
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Male 2,711
If you knew anything about the subject you`d know that a good bit of the Witches Hammer was devoted to the premise that women were far more susceptible to becoming witches and that, after it`s publication, women were targeted as witches 3x more often than men. Stop making so many baseless assumptions, eh?
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Male 12,365
I`ll waste some time giving a more detailed example:

[quote]"where is your evidence that the men tortured and killed for being "witches" were women?"

WTF? Where did you pull that from?[/quote]

Your post, obviously. Specifically, this part:

[quote]They published the Witches Hammer, a `how to` guide to torture and murder innocent women.[/quote]
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Male 12,365
[quote]You haven`t (and can`t) dispute the validity of what I said, so you choose to twist words and nit-pick on minor oversights. Pretty classy.[/quote]

Blaming someone for the actions of other people centuries ago is not a minor oversight.

Dismissing the murders of people of the "wrong" sex is not a minor oversight.

What you said has no validity to dispute. It was just a spewing of ignorance and prejudice.
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Male 2,711
Bottom line: You haven`t (and can`t) dispute the validity of what I said, so you choose to twist words and nit-pick on minor oversights. Pretty classy.

(**IAB, what`s up with cutting me off at 848 characters, with no links or quotes?**)
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Male 2,711
@Angiloon
"where is your evidence that this particular individual is responsible for those things?"

I didn`t say or even imply anything of the kind.

"where is your evidence that the men tortured and killed for being "witches" were women?"

WTF? Where did you pull that from?

"where is the evidence for your statement that religiously motivated murder only matters when the victim is a woman?"

Holy f*ck, you have comprehension problems... so, I inadvertently typed "women" instead of "people". How does equal a definitive "statement that religiously motivated blah blah..."? Saying "women" does NOT automatically mean "exclusively women". You must`ve missed the next sentence about "burned scientists at the stake," or did you not know that science was extremely male-dominated back then?
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Male 12,365
Also, the Catholic church earlier preserved knowledge and encouraged scientific progress in some cases to a limited extent.

A fair bit of ancient Greek and Roman knowledge was preserved by Christian clerics copying and recopying it.

Some of the oldest educational establishments were partially set up by the Catholic church (and definitely by Catholics with the support of the church) and staffed by clerics (e.g. Oxford and Cambridge).

When it comes to knowledge, it was far from being as simple as Chalket made it out to be. The Catholic church did both.
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Male 12,365
[quote]RELIGION IS NOT IN ITSELF A BAD THING.[/quote]

Why not? Shouting it isn`t evidence that it`s true.

Good people can use religion in a good way, but that doesn`t mean it`s not a bad thing. At best, some religions are neutral as long as they are powerless.
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Male 12,365
Chalklet...where is your evidence that this particular inndividual is responsible for those things? Time travel is not one of the stated powers of the pope.

Also, where is your evidence that the men tortured and killed for being "witches" were women? That`s a rather odd claim to make. Don`t you think the torturers would have noticed? Do you think that many men lived as women back then?

Also, where is the evidence for your statement that religiously motivated murder only matters when the victim is a woman? You explicitly refer to only the murder of women, exclusively women, as a bad thing that the Catholic church did, so you deliberately exclude all its murders of men. While most (but not all) alleged witches were women (except in one country, in which nearly all of them were men), that`s not true of the people alleged to be heretics and the Catholic church was far more murderous about heretics.
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Male 13,624
patchgrabber
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pretty much what I was gonna say
good post there
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Male 13,624
Nickel2

It often puzzles me why people should want to take pics of religious leaders.
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???
you take pictures of your kids, family?
cars right?
you sniffing boot polish or summat
oddest comment of the week
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Male 527
@Plangkye, hear, hear!!!

I am happy to see that a leader of a religious group tells his followers to man the f*ck up and accept that there is more than one way to live your life.
I hope this pope will lead Christianity into this century.
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Male 5,811
[quote]RELIGION IS NOT IN ITSELF A BAD THING.[/quote]
This made me lol. I think all the people killed in the Inquisition, or maybe in the Crusades, or maybe that guy who was just beheaded on the street in London would disagree. Or any of the children who were raped by priests and then COVERED UP by their church. And here you sit and say that religion itself is not a bad thing. That makes me sick that you would defend this behaviour. Wait, you`re not defending it, you`re excusing it because some old fart smiled and said something nice to you.
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Male 2,711
[quote]Here, a benevolent leader offers a message of peace and hope and all you do is piss on it.[/quote]

Catholics are responsible for the rape of more children, the murder of more women, and the torture of more innocent people than any other institution ever devised by man. Since its origin, the Catholic `Church` has suppressed knowledge and fought scientific progress. They openly and actively supported slavery. They supported racism, fascism, and sexism. They were allies of Hitler and Mussilini. They published the Witches Hammer, a `how to` guide to torture and murder innocent women. They burned scientists at the stake in a futile attempt to keep the masses from learning the Bible is incorrect. They tortured and murdered multitudes in the Inquisition and the Crusades - all in the name of a loving God. Yeah, he`s just one of a long line of "benevolent leaders." Yeah, right.
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Male 2,711
[quote]It`s best to choose to do good, which is basically what the true religions of the world teach, and to love one another.[/quote]

If that was even remotely true, most of us would have no problem with any "true religions". Unfortunately, they teach much, much more than just "love thy neighbor". What about the ban on birth control? That is a definition of "doing good" and/or "love one another" that I cannot accept. There are many more examples...
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Male 2,711
[quote]"It often puzzles me why people should want to take pics of religious leaders. They know what he looks like, why have a picture of him?[/quote]

What an idiotic statement...

It often puzzles me why people should want to take pics of [their family]. They know what [they] look like, why have a picture of [them]?
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Male 1,243
Plangkye +1
papajon0s1 +1
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Male 11
Now change the word atheist/non-catholic to black person and see how wrong it looks even if it`s "well intended".
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Male 579
Some of the comments here are so disappointing and sad, Here, a benevolent leader offers a message of peace and hope and all you do is piss on it.
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Female 258
The responses on this post sicken me. Yes, Benedict was horrible, and yes, there are some hateful people who claim to be doing God`s work, but get this: RELIGION IS NOT IN ITSELF A BAD THING. Here we have replaced Benedict with a man who has decided to spread messages of love in as humble a way as the Church will let him, and we have comparisons to a murdering pedophile and the leader of an evil cult because of how a vocal MINORITY of "Christians" behave - it`s like condemning science, in particular genetics, because of Mengele and Hermann Goering: Ridiculous and shameful.

Let me be clear: I do not believe in the Abrahamic God, nor in the god of any other religion. My beliefs are, if anything, humanist. What I see here is someone in power with the good sense to say "Hey, you guys need to cut this fanatic BS out" to the fundies - should it matter that in his belief, his inspiration comes from God? Objectively, this guy seems a lot more Jesus-like than most r
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Male 1,243
I think most of us know it, there are good people and bad people. So regardless of their other groups they are part of, or the labels they apply to themselves, people are either going to choose to do good or bad. It`s best to choose to do good, which is basically what the true religions of the world teach, and to love one another.
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Male 5,811
[quote]This would essentially be like a murdering pedophile coming up to me saying that I can be a good person if I really try. [/quote]
^this.
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Male 5,811
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Male 7,775
Who would`ve thought Popes Frankie and Benny could be so different
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Male 4,431
"The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. `But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.` Yes, he can... The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! `Father, the atheists?` Even the atheists. Everyone!`... We must meet one another doing good. `But I don`t believe, Father, I am an atheist!` But do good: we will meet one another there."

~Pope Francis
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Male 5,874
It often puzzles me why people should want to take pics of religious leaders. They know what he looks like, why have a picture of him? I was under the impression that he is the religion`s representative, not the actual religion itself. A bit like having a photo of the CEO of Mcdonalds, rather than Ronald himself.
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Female 1,467
Yea man you`re saying cool things but are you cool? You don`t gotta lie to hang. You gonna have P Diddy rap for you? Are you gonna have a meet n greet with The Biebs and get his auto on your sleeve?
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Male 16
You know non-christian/catholic people will see this man as a religious figure with righteous moral standings and an all around good person to boot, while the religious crowd will view him as the anti-christ showing the sinners away from the church. Sheparding the masses to believing that atheism is acceptable among god. next he`ll be saying sex before marriage is ok, THEN they`ll start rallying and screaming "anti-christ".
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Female 155
This would essentially be like a murdering pedophile coming up to me saying that I can be a good person if I really try.

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Female 6,381
Whodat: Personally, I COULDN`T care less.
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Male 14,774
I don`t believe `true`, fundamentalist Christians, Jews and Muslims can be good by the standards of modern society.
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Male 36,410
Nope, it`s just stupid.
I hope something got "lost in translation" on this one: the Pope`s JOB is to uphold the Catholic Church, not kiss arse...

"Good Person" and "Salvation" are ENTIRELY different things! Only God truly know which is which however...
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Male 2,096
So, non-catholics are naturally atheist?
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Male 1,292
since his first actions as pope ive had immense hope, hes holding up
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Male 3,909
I could care less that this guy now suddenly admits that you don`t have to be a theist to be a good person, I already knew that. The best part about it is watching the heads of fanatical religious people explode as they read this, hahaha!
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Male 2,424
Seems like a cool dude to me.

Fire and brimstone not really all that useful, when science is kinda... you know... there...
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Male 4,746
The leader of an evil cult is still the leader of an evil cult, no matter how "nice" he appears to be.
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Female 4,349
a ss hole, f ucking censor thing, a ss hole,
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Female 4,349
gee, thanks Pope, you suddenly seem much less of an non-nice individual.
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Male 5,013
I like this Pope,i am an agnostic,non baptized. I don`t appreciate so much what "human"church have done during the centuries but i must admit that this "man" is finaly good and open minded.
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Female 8,044
Link: Common Sense! [Pic] [Rate Link] - It might be catching on! I think I like this new guy.
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