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    MrPeabody Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    Link: Barack Trek Into Darkness: Daily Show/John Stewart - The IRS shifts the burden of proof from the tinfoil behatted to the government by targeting the Tea Party
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2013 at 12:51 pm
    Oh look, Stewart is pointing out failures on the other side. God he is so biased.
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    Evil_Eye Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2013 at 12:54 pm
    Guessing this is a can`t view outside US video. So here you go everyone else: Media Hint add-on for Firefox.

    World wide view for all!
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    Evil_Eye Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2013 at 1:06 pm
    Turns out we wasn`t missing much. Just people yelling that the other side is dumb.

    Why try and hide these videos from us? We already know from comments that everyone is a extremist there.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 17, 2013 at 1:08 pm
    Link To YouTube
    For us Non-Americans.

    This is getting good! It`s FINALLY so terrible that the MSM can no longer IGNORE it!
    IRS = Obama lied
    Fast & Furious = Obama and Holder lied
    Benghazi = Obama AND Hillary lied

    Notice the pattern? Also notice hat the MSM spent more time defending Obama and attacking his "racist critics" than actually REPORTING the FACTS? It has taken months for them to admit: Obama has the MOST corrupt administration since Nixon.

    Eat it Lib-tards! You OWN this!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31795 posts
    May 17, 2013 at 1:27 pm
    About the actual video:
    He spends 3 minutes "disproving" FoxNews? But fails completely: here`s why.

    The Benghazi Scandal is NOT about the attack itself: it`s about the LIES and COVER-UP and grotesque INCOMPETENCE both during and after the attack! by whom? Obama, Hillary and other top ranked Democrats.

    It`s about people in the HIGHEST OFFICES in the USA knowingly and willfully LYING to the American Public. And ordering others to lie too. And attacking any who DARE to question the lies.

    Any of these three scandals is FAR worse than Watergate, just fyi y`all.

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2013 at 1:38 pm

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2013 at 1:40 pm
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2013 at 1:51 pm
    The burden of proof has always been and will always be on any government, as opposed to the citizens. Source: history.


    HolyGod, don`t be weird.
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    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2013 at 1:52 pm
    Well I`ll be 5Cats bringing up right wing talking points again. It`s so much work to battle so much ignorance. But off we go.

    To claim this administration is the worse than Watergate? Ok you are grandstanding a bit here. I`m not going to defend Obama`s administration. His administration is hardly alone in terms of corruption. The Republican`s have Nothing to stand on here. This problem is something BOTH parties have problems with. I don`t remember the outrage when we had intel that Taliban terrorist were planning to highjack highliners and slam them into buildings. Yes, we knew they were practicing or planning for it but never really took them seriously. Weapons of Mass Durrstruction (never there).

    The problem isn`t JUST Democrat or Republican. It`s both parties. They BOTH do this. I want more choices for elected officials but it seems the mainstream populace wants Democrats or Republicans only. I don`t see anything changing until that status quo is ad
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2013 at 2:02 pm
    I love the insinuation that Obama had any direct involvement or control over what a group of IRS employees was doing.

    Has their been even the slightest hint that this action came at the behest of the administration?

    Otherwise this is basically like getting mad at the CEO of McDonalds because there was too much salt on your fries.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2013 at 2:17 pm
    "The problem isn`t JUST Democrat or Republican. It`s both parties. They BOTH do this."

    I was going to say something similar. In all three cases (Benghazi, IRS, AP), the Republican party shares in the blame equally. Congressional Republicans didn`t authorize embassy defense funding. The AP situation was enabled by the Patriot Act, and the IRS wouldn`t even be in position to make most of those political decisions if it weren`t for the Citizen`s United decision (which Republicans are in favor of).

    These stories all suck (thought Benghazi is completely overblown since the same thing happened multiple times under Bush and nobody cared), but they should all just say, "we all screwed up, now let`s go do something constructive for a change."
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 17, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    While this is wrong, yes, it`s also Business As Usual.
    Every administration has used the IRS to target people and/or groups. J Edgar Hoover used it. Nixon used it to apply pressure on commies and hippies. The IRS is how they took down Al Capone.

    But now that a black guy is doing it it`s suddenly "shockingly wrong!".
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    Gerry, Nixon`s IRS practices were in his impeachment articles. And asking people for their Facebook accounts and book reports on books they have read is not comparable to Al Capone.


    Also, this whole "it`s both parties" things is a pretty easy stance to take, also. But the problem with saying that in response to everything that happens is that it essentially absolves everyone of blame. It`s like what one of my Soviet teachers used to say, "We all owned the property, but since we all owned it, none of us owned it." The same applies to the blame. Everyone is to blame, and therefore nobody gets the blame.

    Don`t abate in your criticism of anyone doing wrong, regardless. I come down on Bush, Nixon, and more with wrath just as I do Obama. Eisenhower is really the only honorable post-war president, anyways.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    May 17, 2013 at 4:27 pm
    Well, the GOP has to do something to distract us from noticing that the deficit is falling at an incredible rate. Which, btw, is BAD for the US because it means we aren`t putting any money towards infrastructure and other programs which would generate JOBS.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 17, 2013 at 6:21 pm
    @normalfreak2: Yes, BOTH parties do it. I KNOW! It`s the MSM`s "mantra" whenever a Democrat gets in trouble! But when it`s a Repub? That`s a different story!

    Again: The REAL scandal is not "the act" it`s the COVERUP! Which the Democrats do like it`s a daily chore. They sure get lots of practice!

    The second thing is the MSM`s active participation in covering up Democrat scandals: indeed ANY story which might hurt "the cause" of the left-leaning crowd.

    @FoolsPrussia: You`re living in a dream world bro! The Repubs are to blame for F&F? IRS? Benghazi? NEXT you`ll claim they forced Obama to "keep Gitmo open" = LOLZ! Oh wait, you DO claim that...

    (If you`re not one of the many IABers who does? Sorry, but the point remains valid.)

    @lauriloo: The deficit is falling? Source plz.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2013 at 6:57 pm
    "The Benghazi Scandal is NOT about the attack itself: it`s about the LIES and COVER-UP"

    I think you may be behind the curve a little. Now that all the emails have been released it`s clear that there`s no EVIDENCE of a COVER-UP.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 17, 2013 at 8:26 pm
    "There`s no evidence!" (Closes eyes, puts fingers in ears, and sings loudly, "La la la la la, la la la la la...")
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 17, 2013 at 8:30 pm
    @whodat6484, the earliest email in that dump was sent 70 hours AFTER the attack. Is that the first instance of any communications about the attack, or are they hiding something?

    BTW, the definition of a liberal f***tard is someone who gets his facts from the New York Times OPINION PAGE! Idiot...
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    May 17, 2013 at 8:50 pm
    National gun registry? You don`t have a national gun registry? That`s retarded.
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    Xprez Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2013 at 11:11 pm
    I don`t think most of you understand the severity of all of this. Obama is akin to a king. While most of you are looking the other way, he`s stealing the rug you were standing on. Funny how most of you protect him by saying "well every president has done this or that." This president is not held accountable for anything, because everything that comes up is deemed a "conspiracy theory" or it`s "because he`s black." How about he`s not the great man you think he is? That`s not even in the realm of possibility to some of you. It`s ok to think for yourselves and question sometimes. We would still belong to the Brits if no one had questioned authority. What does this administration have to do to earn your DISTRUST?
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    May 17, 2013 at 11:25 pm
    So what you`re saying, Xprez, is that we HAVE to believe the conspiracy theories no matter what or WE`RE the crazy ones. Well, I base MY trust on past experience and because the right has been exposed time and again that they lie, distort and deceive for political gain I wouldn`t believe them if they told me grass was green. If someone I actually trusted proved that the Obama admin actually did something wrong, I`d be glad to hear them out and decide for myself, thank you very much. YOU see conspiracy because you WANT to see it. Desperately. And it`s sad.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 12:32 am
    @OldOllie - Thanks for proving me right (again) by immediately attacking someone who doesn`t agree with you!

    BTW, the definition of grumpy old redneck f*cktard is OldOllie.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 12:37 am
    @Xprez - It`s hard to take anything that comes from the right seriously because from day 1 they made it perfectly clear that their goal was to do everything in their power to make this administration fail regardless of what damage it could do to the country as a whole.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 18, 2013 at 6:15 am
    @WhoDat: At least ATTEMPT to get it right: "If Obama tries to turn America into a communist state? I hope he fails."

    We righties said from DAY 1 that he: doesn`t know what he`s doing. Is seriously left-leaning. Will NEVER keep his vast promises. Is a liar. Will be BAD for America.

    And WE were correct.

    "Has reduced the deficit" = LOLZ! When it gets CLOSE to where Bush had it? Then MAYBE you can talk.

    That`s almost as funny as when an IABer said the deficit is being reduced (I think it was @JollyGod) BUT he meant the RATE OF INCREASE was slowing! ZOMG he linked a chart which clearly showed the ACTUAL deficit rising every year under Obama... as proof it was "falling"!

    So yeah, if it`s being "actually reduced" I`d suggest that: A)good! B)It`s the Republicans.
    Obama`s promise? ZERO INCREASE...

    And how`s those employment numbers? Ooo, nasty!
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    May 18, 2013 at 7:21 am
    "When it gets CLOSE to where Bush had it? Then MAYBE you can talk.
    Let`s see. Are you talking about when Bush first took over and had the Clinton SURPLUS to ruin or just before all the bills from Bush`s two wars and no regulation of Wall St. and banking came due?

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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 7:54 am
    "When it gets CLOSE to where Bush had it?"

    I guess he`d better start spending if that`s the goal.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 7:55 am

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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2013 at 10:08 am
    Where is everyone getting this deficit info? This is the deficit to GDP percentage by year:

    2001 - -1.25%
    2002 - 1.48%
    2003 - 3.39%
    2004 - 3.48%
    2005 - 2.52%
    2006 - 1.86%
    2007 - 1.15%
    2008 - 3.19%
    2009 - 10.13%
    2010 - 8.92%
    2011 - 8.69%
    2012 - 6.99%

    This is what it is - not what`s projected or what some people hope it will be by 2018. This is the deficit/GDP ratio using raw data. What am I missing here?
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 10:40 am
    @5Cats - First... What is this "WE" you keep talking about? Sorry I have to be the one to break it to you lil` fella but YOU`RE CANADIAN!

    Second... "At least ATTEMPT to get it right"

    I already got it right the first time. The Republicans realized that they`d f*cked up so royally under the reign of Dick Cheney that they`d be feeling it for years, even generations to come so they needed to do something. They decided that the only thing to do was try to make this administration and Democrats in general look worse. That also included ostracizing any fellow Republicans who wouldn`t go along with their plan.

    The Party of No

    As Ohio Senator George Voinovich summarized the strategy: "If Obama was for it, we had to be against it."
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 10:45 am
    HumanAction

    "2009 - 10.13%
    2010 - 8.92%
    2011 - 8.69%
    2012 - 6.99%"

    So it was over 10% Bush`s last fiscal year and it has decreased EVERY year under Obama? Down over 3% since he took over according to your data?

    "What am I missing here?"

    What am I missing here?
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2013 at 11:04 am
    @HolyGod

    So it was over 10% Bush`s last fiscal year and it has decreased EVERY year under Obama? Down over 3% since he took over according to your data?
    Yes - that is what my data says...

    What am I missing here?
    The point I`m making is that Obama, while surely improving upon the last year of Bush`s administration, still is doing terribly.

    A man who goes from beating his wife 15 times a year to 10 times a year is still worse than a man who beats his wife 5 times a year. All of this talk about the rate at which the deficit is falling is nonsense - only the actual deficit (per GDP) matters. In that light, Obama has done poorly.

    Meanwhile, everyone else is depending heavily on projections as far out as 2018 in order to prove their point. Let`s stay within the data we have.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2013 at 11:08 am
    @HolyGod

    Also, when did Bush become the standard of comparison when deciding whether or not a president is doing well?

    Bush was a terrible president. We should be using a different standard. If we did that, both of those presidents would fail horribly.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 18, 2013 at 11:35 am
    @HolyGod: Once AGAIN I point out that Obama & the Dems ADDED almost 600 Billion to Bush`s last budget AFTER the election! So blame Bush all you like! But even you must know you`re lying...
    Hint: It`s at Wiki ffs...

    ALSO: @lauriloo too: Democrat House under Bush, Republican House under Clinton = has something to do with it, eh?

    @WhoDat: Please don`t sound like @madest! It`s so ugly...

    I`m a Right Wing Canadian! "We" righties were... right! Again!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 18, 2013 at 11:50 am
    Liberal Math: $1,087 Billion is LOWER THAN $458 Billion! (2012 vs 2008)

    Source

    Again I add: Bush`s 2009 budget originally called for about $450 B in deficit, but recession, GM Bailout AND OBAMA adding to spending in March 2009? Cranked it up.

    YES, Obama added hundreds of billions to LAST year`s budget, just before spending over a Trillion (in deficit) on his own budget!

    Facts = deal with them.

    You`re crediting his 2014 "projections" as if they were "facts"? = LOLZ!

    Another Source (With Inflation Adjusted Dollars!)

    No love for Bush`s $161 B deficit year? Gee, how`d the lib-tards overlook THAT?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 18, 2013 at 11:53 am
    @FoolsPrussia: Your chat? Obama`s 4 straight TRILLION DOLLAR deficits wouldn`t even FIT!

    Just FYI bro...

    A 2003 chart = weaksauce. We`re talking about Obama and Bush, not Bush and L.B.Johnson... ffs...
    Just... weaksauce...
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    @5Cats - So, you`re denying the fact that the Republican party set out to make Obama & other Democrats look bad, regardless of the damage it has done? You`re actually denying that when they aren`t even denying it themselves?

    They didn`t meet on innaguration night to discuss their plan to undermine everything that came from the Democratic Party?

    Mitch McConnel never said, "Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny President Obama a second term."?

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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 2:43 pm
    HumanAction

    "A man who goes from beating his wife 15 times a year to 10 times a year is still worse than a man who beats his wife 5 times a year. All of this talk about the rate at which the deficit is falling is nonsense - only the actual deficit (per GDP) matters. In that light, Obama has done poorly."

    I would be on board with that analogy if Obama came in when the economy and country were in good shape, f.ucked it up his first year and then got better each year.

    However he is fixing a mess he didn`t cause.

    How about a CEO that destroys a company to the point of near bankruptcy. Then the next CEO starts to fix the company gradually. That is an appropriate analogy.

    I personally would have loved to see what Obama could have done if he didn`t have to spend all of his time trying to fix everything.
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    RdDan Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 3:49 pm
    Never mind all that.
    Why are you killing Pakistanis with flying bombs Barack?
    Did they say something about your mother or something?
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    @HolyGod: "How about a CEO that destroys a company to the point of near bankruptcy. Then the next CEO starts to fix the company gradually. That is an appropriate analogy."

    I don`t believe so of the $11.7 trillion debt created between 2001-2011. 56% has been created between 2009-2011. The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. 3.5 trillion due to "the great recession" caused by the dot com bubble and
    Housing bubble. And 1.4 trillion for the two wars according to the CBO.
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.-CBS


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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 18, 2013 at 4:10 pm
    @5Cats - So, you`re denying the fact that the Republican party set out to make Obama & other Democrats look bad...


    O-M-F-G!
    You are SO RIGHT @WhoDat! No political party EVER in the HISTORY of the ENTIRE UNIVERSE has EVER STOOPED SO LOW BEFORE! To actually "oppose" the party in power? Like, you know, they are the "opposition" or something?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 18, 2013 at 4:19 pm
    If Obama is SO BUSY "fixing things" then how does he have so much time for:
    Golf
    Vacations
    Fundraising (he`s done more days of fundraising then Bush and Clinton COMBINED during his term so far!)
    Fast & Furious
    Ignore Syria
    IRS Scandal
    Invade Libya
    Benghazi Coverup
    Phoning homosexual basketball players...

    Before the libtards all chant "Bush took vacations too!" It turns out he was (often) actually meeting international diplomats "quietly". You know? Like Carter did? Except Carter met them at Camp David and told everyone... Bush met them quietly at Crawford Ranch and kept it quiet... like a PotUS SHOULD!
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2013 at 4:23 pm
    "So it was over 10% Bush`s last fiscal year and it has decreased EVERY year under Obama? Down over 3% since he took over according to your data? "

    It is true that the deficit is falling, but only because dept via borrowing is increasing dramatically.

    Deficit is a government`s yearly total expenditures exceeding the revenue that it generates (excluding money from borrowings).
    The Debt is a measure of a country`s federal debt in relation to its gross domestic product (GDP). By comparing what a country owes to what it produces, the debt-to-GDP ratio indicates the country`s ability to pay back its debt.
    Deficit differs from debt, which is an accumulation of yearly deficits.

    Also the highest deficits in 2009 were in the months of February, March, and May after Obama had taken office and was passing the failed $1T Stimulus.-CBO
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 4:45 pm
    "Like, you know, they are the "opposition" or something?"

    Well thank you, you described perfectly how the right-wing politicians work. They have the attitude that it`s either done my way or no way. You don`t want to do it my way, fine, then we`ll make sure nothing gets done and f*ck over the entire country.

    Politicians are basically civil SERVANTS who are supposed to work FOR the people they represent and keep the best interests of the people in mind when making decisions. They`re not supposed to purposely collapse an economy and f*ck over an entire country because they didn`t get their way.

    You see politics as "US vs THEM" which is the WHOLE F*CKING PROBLEM! Why don`t you stop acting like babies and do your f*cking jobs for a change?
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2013 at 4:49 pm
    @HolyGod

    he is fixing a mess he didn`t cause.
    Correction - he is *trying* to fix the mess. Though the deficit has falling, it still remains at record highs.

    How about a CEO that destroys a company to the point of near bankruptcy. Then the next CEO starts to fix the company gradually. That is an appropriate analogy.
    First off, Bush didn`t destroy the economy - he helped destroy it. A combination of poor policies from both sides and cheap credit destroyed the economy.

    Next, as per your analogy, have you ever seen the second CEO come in, expand upon the failures of the previous CEO, and get credit for being a good CEO? I haven`t. Economically, Obama`s administration has been following the guidelines of the Bush administration. How does this make Obama "good" and Bush "bad"?

    Simply, Bush got unlucky the bubble burst - but it would have happened anyway.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 4:54 pm

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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 18, 2013 at 5:17 pm
    @WhoDat: In Canada? We actually call the party with the 2nd most seats "The Official Opposition" eh?

    But YOU are so RIGHT! The Democrats NEVER ONCE IN ALL OF HISTORY disagreed with a Republican President! They were always the epitome of politeness! Worked tirelessly without dreaming of taking credit for anything! Sacrificed their political ambitions for the good of the American People! NEVER ONCE did they do naughty things!!!

    Democrats are all SAINTS! It`s amazing they don`t ALL get elected every year!

    It`s all a "vast right-wing conspiracy" eh @WhoDat? Oh wait, that was Hillary talking about her fellow Democrats...
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2013 at 5:49 pm
    @whodat6484:
    "Politicians are basically... decisions."

    If you look at polls most people disapprove of congress as a whole but approve of their own representative. Usually because the representative holds the views of the people in their particular districts more so than the varied views of the larger nation. You may not agree with every congressmen, just as I don`t, but likely the people of their districts do, thats why they were elected. And one reason why I think local and state governments should hold more power than they do now. Ones own vote counts more, and effects a smaller group of people.
    Also visibility has a lot to do with this one, the more people see the sausage process the more they dislike what it looks like. Less visible entities can find more common ground because they can reach a compromise without, offending constituents or those of opposite views. Its one reason why the Supreme Court doesn`t prefer to televise their cases and have more
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2013 at 6:00 pm
    (cont)

    ...approval ratings.

    "You see politics as "US vs THEM" which is the WHOLE F*CKING PROBLEM!"

    Are you saying your bipartisan then? This was the problem of "factions" in the federalist paper 10 and 51.

    "do your f*cking jobs for a change?"
    The CBO attributes 72% OF debt to spending increases and tax cuts to stimulate the economy. Only 27% is due to economic and technical factors. Don`t advocate pushing the invisible hand one way or the other, let the market find it`s own path. Real markets always work better than simulated ones. (With a narrow yet clearly defined scope of certain exceptions to protect consumers from fraudulent practices and monopolization, of course)
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 6:14 pm
    @5Cats - Once again, YOU`RE ASSUMING that since, in this particular case, I`m only calling out the Republicans for bringing Washington to a screeching halt, it must mean I think the Democrats are saints. The fact of the matter is, that`s what happening as we speak so that`s why I`m sh*tting on all your right-wing friends. If it were the other way around, I`d be calling out the left because, as I`ve clearly stated several times, I don`t subscribe to a party`s entire platform, I take it on a case by case basis.

    What you`re doing is taking my comment and putting a spin on it; since I`m criticizing the Republicans right now, it must mean I think all Dems are saints. Stop putting words in mouth and look at the big picture. We`re talking about politics, where compromise on both sides is essential to get anything done, not about two rival sports teams.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2013 at 6:33 pm
    "Are you saying your bipartisan then? This was the problem of "factions" in the federalist paper 10 and 51."

    While that`s true, the purpose of a separation of powers is to make sure one branch isn`t able to completely take over and do as they please. Using that system to completely undermine one of the branches, which is exactly what`s happening, is NOT the purpose. They fully admitted they`d oppose everything that comes from the Democratic party and even went so far as to ostracize other Republicans who wouldn`t go along with their plan.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 18, 2013 at 8:29 pm
    Sorry @WhoDat: I`ve strained my sarcasm bone and can no longer reply. For a "non partisan" (which I do believe you are, actually) you sure swallow the Kool-Aid of the MSM...

    Not NEARLY as bad as @FoolsPrussia of course! Lolz! Ouch! Oh it hurts...

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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3907 posts
    May 18, 2013 at 9:28 pm
    @5Cats - Wrong again, I don`t drink Kool Aid, too much sugar.

    If you consider taking in information from multiple sources, reading/watching/listening to said information and coming to a conclusion "drinking the Kool Aid", then so be it. Reading through all of your comments in political related posts it`s quite obvious to me that you get ALL of your info from far right-wing sources, many times shouting out Fox News talking points verbatim.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31795 posts
    May 19, 2013 at 6:16 am
    I still don`t watch "Fox News". Ever. And my favorite websites usually present the MSM argument directly, for us to judge on our own, before tearing it to shreds of course!

    If you can`t see Obama`s hand directly involved in the crisis and (most importantly!) cover up of:
    Fast & Furious: Holder still has his job!
    Benghazi: Either Obama OR Clinton called off the rescue, the only other possibility was Petraeus of the FBI, and there`s NO evidence he was involved on day zero.
    IRS: The woman in charge (and DIRECTLY involved) at the time was... promoted to heading Obamacare! If THAT doesn`t frighten you? Well, you`re a braver soul than I! And I`m North of the Border eh?

    Gotta take it easy on my sarcasm bone... hope @FoolsPrussia doesn`t link anything from 1997...
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    Keggar Male 50-59
    54 posts
    May 19, 2013 at 8:37 am
    Please excuse Jon Daily and the back pocket media as they no longer are required to use there brains and oh yes they all voted for Obama.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    May 20, 2013 at 6:21 am
    He`s already got his defense strategy in place....

    Beter pray they don`t dig up more on him or follow the bread crumb trail to him cause this is exactly what Nixon would`ve been impeached for if he didn resign.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 20, 2013 at 6:31 am
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31795 posts
    May 20, 2013 at 9:34 am
    @McGovern: It`s come out that Obama met with top IRS and Union officials and the NEXT DAY there was a sudden "outbreak" of "selective policy enforcement"...

    It`s more than a trail of breadcrumbs, it`s a flashing neon sign pointing right at him!! :-)

    Why is this "worse than Watergate"? Because it targeted Individual American Citizens by the THOUSANDS! Based entirely on their opposition to the PotUS. Watergate was 1 bug put in a specific group`s hotel room. IRS-Gate is HUGE...

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