Ah...I Like The Smell Of American Freedom

Submitted by: piperfawn 3 years ago Misc

I guess Gestapo officiers are clapping their hands from the tombs
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Female 2,691
PIGS. They shame the badge.
If you want to be a cop, you need to be better than the people you arrest.
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Male 1,920
I totally agree with Squrlz analysis of the situation. Also they did not arrest anyone for drug possession, nor did they confiscate or take as evidence any drugs or paraphernalia. If she could have been arrested for the drugs, they would have done so before it escalated. In fact the one office had left the residence, and the other was going to follow, but he came back to add another 2 cents to his argument.

This was purely an emotional response by the officer because he was mentally beaten by a 20 year old girl who perceived as a `drug abuser`.

(I speculate that the drugs actually belonged to the mother and father of her BF, listen to them talk at the end.)
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Male 6,227
After reflecting a bit, here`s my thinking.

The woman bests the officers when it comes to making verbal arguments. In fact, it`s not much of a stretch to say that she delivers a rhetorical beatdown. Shortly before her arrest, she makes the 2nd officer look a bit foolish when she concludes with, "And that`s not your job to be doing right now."

At that point, the second officer has lost the verbal confrontation. He responds lamely with, "A denier of their own substance abuse." Apparently filled with bottled-up anger, he starts to move toward the door to leave, but moments later explodes by lashing out and striking the woman in the chest when she moves to close the door behind him.

Bottom line: She beat him at verbal combat and paid a heavy price for it.

I said it before and I`ll say it again: A valid reason to arrest someone isn`t magically created when a police officer loses his temper.
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Male 1,983
F[U]CK THE POLICE!

Most are nothing but bullies backed by authority.
I quit LE after 9 years because I couldn`t stand working with badged asshats like this every day.

Some of them just couldn`t wait to get out there and look for an excuse to beat someone up.
It sickened me and was probable the worst job I ever had in my professional life.

F[U}CK THE POLICE!
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Male 5,005
Gerry1of1 they answer just AFTER they have arrested her without any miranda rights on the table. When you arrest someone is imperative to tell miranda rights and to tell the reason for the arrest. The disordely conduct thing is just an excuse used to police AFTER they allready messed up the situation. If you kidnap someone without any valid motivation,disordely conduct is the least that can happen. The responsables for this "presumed"disordely conduct are the cops. If i give you a punch in your balls and you curse at me i can`t say i have punched your balls cause you have cursed to me,they are confusing the timeline of the events just as they want. This cops are just falsifyng the thruth cause they aren`t good cops.
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Male 171
Hey! turn that damn TV down! I cant hear the cops trying to intimidate people in their own home!

"if you hadn`t been so highly abrasive and unnecessarily uncooperative we would have been gone already." -Asshat Cop-

Yup. Sounds like most cops.

translation = "Dont get mad that you are being grilled in the living room you paid for and I wont do everything in my power to make your life a living hell!"

sounds like an abusive boyfriend saying "I dont want to hit you but you make me!"
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Male 1,627
damn hippies
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Male 2,416
@madduck,

True true, even when sober fully rested and awake, some nice person might say something to me and i just might thinking about food: "o yeah orange ya glad"? and see a slightly disturbed look flicker across their face.. i accepted my lot.
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Male 2,416
@Gerry,

Let`s say you were right, and that the girl was a spoiled brat, and was being "abrassive" (what a term?) Is this how you want your tax money to be spent? on a little spoiled brat who may have smoked a joint (or not) or do you think they could be doing something more usefull with their time i.e. your tax money? i`m just curious. i mean if they F.*c.ked. up say someone who just robbed an old lday or sold smack to a minor. i`d be much more inclined to say. that`s some nice work there Louie. How about you? where do you stand on that?
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Male 316
When she gets her phone call she should call 911 and say she`s been kidnapped.
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Male 37,888

@ piperfawn - LALALALALALALALALA!

Seriously, why didn`t they answer? Because they already had answered her a couple of times but she just wouldn`t shut up "WhyAmIBeingArrested! WhyAmIBeingArrested! WhyAmIBeingArrested! " They did answer.

Piper, keep in mind we are not seeing the whole story. We don`t know that they didn`t charge her for more than the minor offense. We don`t know that they didn`t` go back and get the pot. We see a small clip of the whole event. She`s already been blabbing in their face for how long before the video starts?

I understand why most of you don`t like the cops behavior, but I {an anti-cop guy} does not have a problem with this.
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Male 36,374
@MrPeabody: Nice Update! It`s very informative. I`ll repeat it, k?

"prelude to a physical assault." So the officer is claiming that her raising her hand (to close the door, obviously) was an ATTACK? And that`s why he slammed her to the floor?

Obviously she`s so HUGE he must have feared for his life!

VV Ooo! A long angry argument and I`m not involved in it?? *phew*
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Male 762
Slit their throats.
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Male 5,620
Miranda Rights?

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Male 3,842
Peabody: your post appeared at 3:19 - there is no way I could have possibly seen it before writing the deleted post that appeared at 3:21. So, when I wrote the deleted post, I had not yet seen your statement that the word was "assumption" but once I clicked "submit" I saw your post for the first time. So, I checked, found that you were correct, and deleted my post that was in error, replacing it with a retraction.

You didn`t call me stupid until after I retracted my error. We had all moved on to different points of discussion by then and were talking about the charges that are shown in the article you linked.
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Male 1,920
3. [quote]She was argumentative, regardless of the exact wording, so why is it important exactly what word she said?[/quote]

For the same reason as #2, she did not say anything that would be just cause for her arrest, so disorderly conduct is not a reason to arrest her.
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Male 1,920
@LandoGriffin

1. I was responding to a post you deleted. I did not delete my post that was in response to yours.
You responded to my response as if you never made the post you deleted. I took the screen cap so that you would understand the order of the posts, and so that you could not deny that you posted it.

2. [quote]And why no one will acknowledge that the phrase "that`s an assumption" shares a lot of phonetics with the phrase "that`s some schit" suggests to me that some people are looking for an argument about an inconsequential detail[/quote]

You have been going on and on for several posts about how she cussed at the officers and that is what lead to her arrest. You then said in your deleted post that it undermines everyone`s credibility that deny she said it.

It is not an inconsequential detail, it is the difference between there being a reason to arrest her and there being no reason to arrest her.
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Male 3,842
piperfawn - when did I ever say it was good?

In fact, I said it was NOT good. And you acknowledged that I said it was not good. You`re just looking for an argument now but I`m not sure what you wish to argue about.
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Male 5,005
LandoGriffin so being argumentative is a good cause for an arrest? Is this the freedom you think for your country?
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Male 5,005
Ty Squrlz4Sale.
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Male 3,842
Peabody - I already admitted that I was wrong about that. I don`t deny it.

Why you took a screencap of an argument on a website designed to relieve boredom, that I do not know.

And why no one will acknowledge that the phrase "that`s an assumption" shares a lot of phonetics with the phrase "that`s some schit" suggests to me that some people are looking for an argument about an inconsequential detail, rather than the big picture. She was argumentative, regardless of the exact wording, so why is it important exactly what word she said?
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Male 6,227
(Cont`d)

O2: Now you`re under arrest.

W: No, I`m not.

O2: Yes, you are. (W is taken down to the floor by O1 and O2.)

(3:51: End of transcription)
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Male 6,227
(Cont`d)

W: Do you see your personality? It`s very irritating. That`s why I`m like this. And anybody would be irritated by someone walking into their house and telling them what they are. So that is pretty irritating. How would you feel if I walked into your house and told you you were an alcoholic because I saw a wine bottle on your desk? Jesus by Lord, I could start going off on opinions on that, but I don`t because that`s not my assumption to make. And that`s not your job to be doing right now.

O2: A denier of their own substance abuse. (Starts moving to exit the house.)

W: Thank you! (In response to his movement to leave.)

O2: Skyler--

(W moves to close door behind O2; as she closes in toward the door, O2 turns and shoves at W forcefully.)

W (sarcastically): Ohhh! Thank you very much!

(O1 re-enters the house.)

(Cont`d next post)
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Male 6,227
(Cont`d)

W: You actually don`t know that.

O2: I do.

W: You don`t.

O2: I do.

W: You don`t.

O2: Denial: It`s not just a river in Egypt.

W: If actually saying "I`m not in denial" is denial, then everybody`s in denial.

O2: Skyler, you`re in denial.

W: You`re in denial--of me, telling you that your job is done and telling you to get out of my house.

O2: You`re an abuser. And the worst part about it is you`re defensive about it--unnecessarily so.

(Cont`d next post)
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Male 6,227
(Cont`d)

O2: Let me answer it this way, let me answer it this way. Had you not been such a highly abrasive--

W: What does that have to do with the investigation of finding out whether someone`s (unintelligible).

O2: If you had not been so highly abrasive and unnecessarily uncooperative, we`d be gone by now.

W: I--I-- I was (unintelligible) and you knew what was going on and you decided to stick around to tell me that I was being abrasive. I know I`m being abrasive. I don`t particularly enjoy waking up and everybody walking around and unbelieving everything I think. So, I don`t know how comfortable that would make you in your own home. And then the fact that I told you I`m uncomfortable, but you won`t stand outside like he is (gesturing to O1). Because you know that it makes me uncomfortable, so you (unintelligible).

O2: All I can tell you is I know now that you`re a drug abuser and you`re in denial about it.

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Male 6,227
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W: And I don`t have to answer that question because there`s no investigation going on for any of that at all.

O1: We can plainly view--

W: I don`t care what plain view is.

O1: We can plainly view marijuana.

W: What does that have to do with anything?

O1: Because if it belongs to her--

W: It doesn`t belong to her.

O1: OK.

W: Does that answer your question?

O1: Maybe.

W: All right. Well, you asked me if it belonged to her, and I said no. That answers the question, does it not?

O1: Only--just--

O2: Let me throw something out here.

O1 to O2: Go ahead.

W: Can I ask a question?

(O1 steps outside the house.)

02: Go ahead, repeat your question.

W: Can I ask if you`re done can you leave? Because I don`t want to-- (unintelligible).

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Male 6,227
(Cont`d)

W: So just because I see that you have a gun does that mean I can assume that you shoot people?

O1: If the need arises. (snap sound: officer snaps open or pats holster?) (Unintelligible) OK?

W: Oh. OK. Just because I have something doesn`t mean I need it.

O1: (unintelligible)

W: No, it doesn`t! "If the need arises" (quoting the officer`s remark about his gun) -- but I don`t have a need.

O1: Well, I just wanted you to realize--

W: I do realize.

O1: --that having marijuana in a home with a felon and with young children is not a smart idea.

W: OK. And I understand that.

O1: All right. I`m glad we`re all on the same page.

W (sarcastically): Thank you.

O2: Is that your mom`s or yours? (pointing to marijuana)

W: It doesn`t really matter.

O2: Guess what? Your mother`s freedom depends on the answer.

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Male 6,227
TRANSCRIPTION OF START OF VIDEO

(Prior to start of video, OFFICER 1 and OFFICER 2, hereafter O1 and O2, entered domicile of WOMAN, hereafter W, in response to a call concerning a medical emergency.)

(0:00: start of video, start of this transcription)

O1: ...we`re satisfied--well, I am.

W: Me, too.

O1: Does he live here?

W: He lives here. I don`t know (unintelligible).

O1: Do you live here?

W: Yes.

O1: OK. So... and do you live here all the time?

W: Yeah.

O1: OK, so you`re gonna--

O2 (speaking to dispatcher over radio): Ten-four (unintelligible).

O1: So we`re going to be smoking marijuana, huh? I mean, I can smell it.

W: I`m not going to have you assume what happens or what`s going on--

O1: Skyler!

W: I don`t--I don`t care! That`s an assumption. That is an assumption.

O1: So we`re gonna--

(Cont`d next post)
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Male 5,005
Answer me Gerry...don`t use the cute "lalalala" card this time ;-)
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Male 5,005
Gerry1of1 so if they thought was a big deal they had to incriminate her,not just leaving her house as they was doing. If your idea about big ammount is correct the cops are still bad cops cause they don`t have enforced the law. And if your idea is correct why they dont answer that when she asked the reason for her arrest?
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Male 37,888

Pot is legal in Alaska... In Small Amounts.
As we don`t know how much was "in plain sight" no point arguing about it. But the cop seemed to think it was a big deal.
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Male 4
Wow, they sure do talk good American in whatever 3rd world dictatorship that was filmed in.....WHAT,that WAS from the "Land Of The Free"...Oh, err, well I am sure that it was just an isolated incident... I mean its not as if the police would tell lies and ...god forbid, beat people for no good reason.....Oh, I see,there is 1 or 2 videos of that happening. ...Sorry, I will be back in a min,theres somebody at my door.
Oh hello officer, how may I help you. Why are you pointing that tazer at me ...aarrggghhh........

A short story from " IT COULD BE YOU NEXT"
From the author of such classics as "OOPS THERE GOES YOUR LIBERTIES" and "DONT FEEL TO BAD, EUROPE IS FCKED AS WELL"
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Male 1,920
@LandoGriffin
"Referencing the article YOU posted, Peabody? That`s why you are calling me stupid?"

No, I said it because you insisted that she said poo at 27 seconds after I pointed out that she said assumption. But you deleted that post, but fortunately I had more than one tab open, so here it is:

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Male 2,711
"Gang, the cop was going to arrest her anyway."

No, he wasn`t. As I told you before, personal possession in your own home is legal in Alaska.

"We learned this in kindergarten. If you behave badly, people will not treat you kindly."

Why didn`t the officer learn this? Why do you excuse HIS bad behavior that started all this?
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Male 5,005
Gerry1of1 in Alaska,one of the state of your country,is perfectly legal to have marijuana in your house.
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Male 5,005
LandoGriffin so the real and drammatic problem is exacytly this " I don`t think it is right or good, but I know it happens and don`t think it surprising or even unusual". You have allready given away your hope to be a free citizen that live in a free society ruled by good officers. You just say "this is what usually happen" without any moral spirit inside you that scream "this is not right and is my duty as a free man to denounce this".
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Male 37,888

LandoGriffin likes me :-)
I feel all warm inside.
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Male 37,888

Trolling .... me?
Nope. I don`t like cops but I just don`t see anything wrong with this video.

We learned this in kindergarten. If you behave badly, people will not treat you kindly.
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Male 37,888

Gang, the cop was going to arrest her anyway. The pot was in plain sight. He got her for the lesser charge, that`s doing her a favor and showing a lot of restraint.
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Male 3,842
Then Gerry, the most frequent (and I will say well-liked) commenter on this site, is a troll too because he says exactly the same thing I said (except for hearing the phrase "that`s an assumption" as "that`s some schit" when trying to listen over the sound of the TV in the video, I admitted being wrong about that)

Referencing the article YOU posted, Peabody? That`s why you are calling me stupid?

I`m not the one who is surprised when a girl gets arrested after arguing with a police officer and trying to shut the door on him. I don`t think it is right or good, but I know it happens and don`t think it surprising or even unusual.

Anyone who thinks that there are no repercussions to arguing with cops is the fool.
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Male 5,005
MrOrange " tomorow on the fourth of may. We remember the ones that fell in WWII."
And so? You think this two cops acting like that are giving a good service to the due respect for the WW2 soldiers?
You know what? The soldier in WW2 fought right against situation like this.
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Male 1,920
@LandoGriffin

Obviously you are a troll because nobody that stupid can use a computer.
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Male 3,842
OK - it was "assumption" - but she is still being confrontational
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Male 2,711
Okay, Lando, now I know you`re on drugs or something... you are the ONLY one hearing cursing at the beginning.
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Male 1,920
@LandoGriffin
[quote]First one is at 27 seconds[/quote]

Stop trolling. She said assumption at 27 seconds.
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Male 3,842
@piperfawn - now I can`t even understand what you are trying to say. My point was pretty clear: don`t curse at a police officer. That is defined as disorderly conduct in the United States. And, that is the charge she was arrested for (not "nothing at all" as Chalket keeps saying).

The follow up article posted by Peabody says she is also being charged with "fear of injury assault" which I would suppose means the cop, wrong as he may be, believed that she was making a move toward him when she went to shut the door while he was still standing there, so he reacted to what he perceived as a threat. Chalket claims she did "nothing at all" but that was something.
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Male 1,920
@LandoGriffin
[quote]but for the first 3 minutes all I could hear was "schit schit schit"[/quote]

Either you are full of schit, or you are hearing things. Even if she did say that, when have you ever heard anyone say "schit schit schit" when cussing someone out? It just doesn`t fit with what is said after.

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Male 3,842
[quote]Prior to the arrest, I have not heard one single curse word.[/quote]

First one is at 27 seconds. Seriously, how can you deny that? It makes you lose credibility to blatantly deny something that obvious.
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Male 5,005
LandoGriffin your ticket example don`t work,you got a ticket for your fault and the cop had a valid reason to stop you. This girl have done nothing,she was in her home and she had all right to ask the police to get the frack out,she didn`t even ask that,she waited untill THEY decide to leave. This cop is just a morron that in his problematic mind take a non arrest as a lose. Anyway what about procedures? Have you ever heard this officers proclaiming her rights or why they are going to arrest her BEFORE they arrest her for real? No. This are not good cops,they don`t respect civilians and neither the correct rules for an arrest. They claim disorderly conduct just after they have illegaly "arrested"(kidnaped) her in her home. If some one come in my house and kidnap me i assure you they will see for real what disorderly conduct mean.
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Male 1,920
[quote]as the article MrPeabody posted, and as i also instantly thought when i saw the vid, she put her han on his arm to usher him out and she`s standing right behind him[/quote]

I`ll have to watch the video again, but I don`t believe she touched him first. If she did actually touch him, or he believed she was going to touch him then why wasn`t Assault and Battery the grounds for her arrest? I believe they came up with disorderly conduct because they had to give her a reason. When put on the spot, it was the other officer who said disorderly conduct. I also believe that what the arresting officer did was out of anger because he did not follow procedure as a rational composed officer would i.e. telling her what she was arrested for and reading her Miranda rights.

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Male 1,803
Hysterical Americans = Hysterically funny.
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Male 6,227
@ LandoGriffin:

[quote]Did you watch the same video I did? She was cursing at a police officer who was investigating a complaint. You keep denying this, but from the start of the video, she was cursing him out.[/quote]
I`m in the process of transcribing the first 3-1/2 mins of the video. Prior to the arrest, I have not heard one single curse word. I`ll post the transcription when done.
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Male 1,803
Hysterical Americans = Hysterically funny.
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Female 7,833
OK MrOrange- that is hilarious- but lucky old man that you came. I find that it is when I am not really capable of intelligent discourse that people such as the police, or upstanding neighbours decide to randomly chat with me---half the town assumes I am a Half Wit!
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Male 3,842
[quote]@LandoGriffin: "How or why could I get arrested for nothing"

Maybe the same way she was.[/quote]

Did you watch the same video I did? She was cursing at a police officer who was investigating a complaint. You keep denying this, but from the start of the video, she was cursing him out. Who in their right mind would ever do that? Cursing at an officer of the law is disorderly conduct. She was rightfully arrested for her behavior. The door wasn`t broken down, so she must have let him inside, therefore he didn`t need a warrant to be there.

I interact with police occasionally, in fact I got a speeding ticket last week. Never have I used profane language while speaking to an officer. And guess what, I`ve never been arrested because I treat police with respect for the law that they represent, even if they are non-nice individuals.
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Male 3,842
[quote]@LandoGriffin: "I don`t curse out police officers while they are investigating complaints."

Neither did she, dumbass. The arrest was around 3:45 and her first curse was at 6:45,[/quote]

I know it is hard to hear over the TV, but for the first 3 minutes all I could hear was "schit schit schit" - she was cursing at him as soon as the video started rolling.
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Male 2,711
@Gerry1of1: "Well, there are drugs in plain sight."

No. There was apparently marijuana in plain sight, which is perfectly legal in a private residence in Alaska.

"but you can tell he`s tired of hearing her bullschitt"

So? He is in her home. Without a warrant. Lecturing her against her will.

This should never have happened. Sure she could have handled herself much better, but she was in an unfamiliar stressful situation. The state troopers are supposedly trained professionals, it is their JOB to defuse these situations, not to escalate them.
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Male 3,619
She was being nasty with the cop, and the cop decides to leave eventualy, as the article MrPeabody posted, and as i also instantly thought when i saw the vid, she put her han on his arm to usher him out and she`s standing right behind him

I think a lot of cops have experienced enough tihngs on their job to understand that nasty things can follow physical contact

i think the arrest was exaggerated but i dont blame him at all for it

also annoyed about how she keeps talking after in cuffs. it`s not like they`re going to go "oh what are we doing let`s releaze her" once they`ve made a choice. she`s just throwing a tantrum
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Male 2,711
@LandoGriffin: "I don`t curse out police officers while they are investigating complaints."

Neither did she, dumbass. The arrest was around 3:45 and her first curse was at 6:45, when she was already handcuffed and being forcibly stuffed into the car. She did NOTHING to be arrested for, she was being verbally abused in her own home. And they were already done "investigating." All he was doing was lecturing her, against her will, in her own home. That is not his job (as she rightly pointed out).

The officer was being an ass ("You`re a drug abuser and you`re in denial") and he KNEW he was being an ass ("Denial, it`s not just a river in Egypt"). He`s a tiny man with power living in fear, and she scared him by reaching for the door. He then waaay over-reacted out of fear and escalated the situation to places it never needed to go. Everything after that is purely his fault.
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Male 2,711
@LandoGriffin: "How or why could I get arrested for nothing"

Maybe the same way she was... by a scared little officer who feels threatened by everyone who doesn`t cower in fear of him. All it takes is a neighbor or a cop with a grudge, maybe some vague "anonymous tip," and you could have armed troopers in your home, in your face, making false accusations and lecturing you. Let`s see how you react when YOUR rights are violated.
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Male 515
This has no weight. They forgot a little thing called Miranda rights.

And Gerry1of1, we pay police to be calm, sensible and understand situations, if they can`t put up with someone talking to them in circle for 2 minutes, we have a problem with the officer. He doesn`t deserve to be on the force if he has that little patients. She just a kid who was berated and attacked by two officers.
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Male 6,227
@Gerry: Some of your points I agree with. Her behavior is generally annoying and she resists after the officer announces she`s under arrest. No argument from me there.

My problem is that either you have a valid reason to arrest someone or you don`t. At 3:35, the officer rightly concludes he has no grounds to arrest her. At 3:45, he announces she`s under arrest. The main thing that appears to have changed in those 10 seconds is that the officer lost control of his temper.

To illustrate, I now present:

"Squrlz`s Top Five Invalid Reasons for Arresting Someone"

#5. Citizen tries to close door behind police officer in a rude fashion;

#4. Citizen has an annoying personality;

#3. Citizen was raised with a sense of entitlement;

#2. Citizen clearly has no idea how to decorate a living room;

and the #1 INVALID reason to arrest someone:

*** Officer on scene loses his temper. ***
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Male 4,893

Gerry - I think you need to get past the fact that she acted like a brat. What the cop did was a clear abuse of power. Did you read the link provided by peabody? The cop admits she never touched him. He says she came into "virtual body to body contact", which is why he pushed her, and then tackled her to the ground and arrested her. Also, look at how many charges they filed against her. Excessive much?
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Male 37,888

I am no fan of the police. I don`t like them. I don`t trust them. But I really don`t see a problem here. He showed great restraint when that spoiled brat needed a good slap upside the face. And her parents to for raising her that way.
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Male 37,888

Squrlz4Sale - What did she do? Well, there are drugs in plain sight. The cops have been talking with her for we-don`t-know-how-long before the video starts but you can tell he`s tired of hearing her bullschitt. He`s told her it`s her mother`s freedom{arrest} as owner of the home if she doesn`t own up to it. She keeps trying to sell him a bill of goods {don`t confess to anything but SHUT UP}.

It`s a bad idea to suddenly reach being the cop when he`s already pissed at you. Overaction from him, yeah, but she then compounds it. When he tries to handcuff her she resists so she`s taken to the ground. She keeps resisting, yelling at them. She won`t shut up after he`s told her why she`s under arrest. She`s lucky it wasn`t for possession, a harsher sentence, possible felony.

If a cop tries to handcuff you you must let him. Even if you are innocent. You cannot fight them.
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Male 37,888

You can see where she gets it. Dad pulls up, asks the cops why she`s being arrested then doesn`t let the officer answer. Interrupts him ""Somebody" Why aren`t` you arresting them for fraudulent calls". Obviously Daddy`s little snowflake cannot have done anything wrong. If my old man pulled up and saw me in the back of a police car he`d say "What`d you do!"
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Male 6,227
@Gerry: Tell me what she did that caused her to suddenly be under arrest between 3:35 and 3:45? One second she was a citizen from whose house the officer was, at long last, leaving; the next second, she was under arrest.

The only thing of note that I see happen in those intervening seconds was that the officer snapped, lost his temper, and struck her.

That`s quite the police state you`re endorsing if you want to give police the power to arrest citizens simply because they lose their temper.

"Here, let me hit you in the face to make you arrestable." ~facepaw~
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Male 37,888

I saw a video of a really big 3 year old.
Like any toddler she thought she could just stamp her feet and yell "NO" and get her way. Example, repeating "Why are you arresting me" after they`d answered her. Just repeat until you get a better answer.

Stomping her metaphorical feet - Cop to camera-girl "You need to step back". Toddler in handcuffs "No she doesn`t! She`s fine!"

Basically, this is a demonstration of a small tantrum. She can`t get her way and she doesn`t know how to deal with the reality confronting her.

Her parents should be bitch-slapped for raising? a spoiled beeyatch like that.
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Male 6,227
I`ve read the comments of those defending the officer with an open mind. But NO WAY. The more I watch this, the more it stinks. Yes, she acts like a dope once she`s arrested. But the officer`s behavior in her house prior to the arrest? Absurd and fascist. The woman gets under his skin because she tells him--RIGHTFULLY SO--that it`s not his job as a police officer to loiter in people`s homes as an unwanted visitor, declaring that they are a "drug user in denial." His bad temper causes him to lash out and strike the woman as she`s attempting to close the door behind him.

No way can this be justified. NO WAY, NO HOW.
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Male 10,339
SHUT THE drat UP!

ZAP ZAP ZAP.

Jail for a night.

NOW BEHAVE!
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Male 3,842
[quote]And I truly hope that Landogriffin and turdburglar get arrested for absolutely nothing very very soon.[/quote]

How or why could I get arrested for nothing? I don`t curse out police officers while they are investigating complaints. I treat officers of the law with respect. She was arrested for disorderly conduct. Cursing at a police officer is disorderly conduct according to the U.S. Supreme Court.
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Male 4,746
Everyone is a bloody lawyer. IMO, we should give the cops the right to taze idiots like this.
"I know my rights! I don`t have to do what you say! Wah wah wah" ZAP!
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Male 10,339
You cannot make a cop leave your home once you let them in. They no longer need a warrant at that point.

Kinda like vampires? lol

Anyway, she got arrested for disorderly conduct. She could also be charged with obstruction. The cops did nothing wrong.
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Male 2,711
"They answered the "what am I being arrested for"

Well, sort of. After nearly two minutes of constant demands. The answer was "Well, right now it`s probably Disorderly Conduct." Kinda implies they don`t really know why, and they might just change it on a whim.

Just because you are a "little snowflake" that cares nothing about civility or your rights and stupid stuff like that doesn`t mean we should all be that gullible.
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Male 2,711
Yes Gerry, you are among the few who think this is no problem.

So all it takes is the claim that "someone called" and all your rights are suddenly null and void? Try reading the Fourth Amendment sometime.

"If you are a snotty brat with the police"
Did you watch the same video I did? Yes, she was upset. Yes, she tried to assert her CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS (which they, and you, seem to disregard). "snotty brat?" She seemed pretty reasonable to me, given the situation. Barge into my house without a warrant and I would be a lot "snottier" (and I`d bet you would be too).

"Thrown to the ground `cause she was squirming - resisting"
Again I ask, did you watch the same video?? She was NEVER under arrest (so nothing to resist) until AFTER the officer acted like he was leaving and she reached to close the door behind him.
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Male 37,888

Am I the only one who doesn`t have a problem with this?
Hardly gestapo tactics. If you are a snotty brat with the police they will find any valid reason to arrest you.

Thrown to the ground `cause she was squirming - resisting.
They answered the "what am I being arrested for" over and over but Momma`s little snowflake just wouldn`t shut up.
Mostly she was arrested for being a snotty brat who argued with the cops and tried being a smartass with them.
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Male 2,579
Always treat officers like trained dogs.
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Male 2,579
I thought you were allowed to have pot in Alaska as long as it was on your property?
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Male 2,416
madduck,

my downstairs neighbour is a 102, about half a year ago, i got woken up in the middle of the night, by two rings of the doorbell (his "code") so i ran out of bed. Down the stairs, openend the door where my neighbour is screaming: help! help! i grabbbed him, hoisted him up, and then came this split second where i prayed to a god i don`t believe in: please don`t let anybody see this? As i realised i was naked, stoned out of my skull, holding a really old man in my arms who`s screaming for help and bleeding from his knees.. (he fel out of bed on the way to the toilet)
thankfully nobody saw me. cuz i`d hate to try and explain that one..

and yeah i live in the netherlands :)
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Male 36,374
The noise of the TV and them talking makes my brainz hurt!

I`ll give it another try, only got 1 minute in...

Cops can be jerks, they are NOT your friends! They are the enemy most of the time.
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Male 300
"Someone called" Yay for due process. As we step rapidly away from a republic its ever more important to keep the gingivitis pit sealed and request legal council to answer questions when dealing with the Gest er.. authorities.

From citizens to subjects, wheee! Such progress.

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Female 7,833
MrOrange- I did indeed say it VERY cheerfully, I was absolutely goat eyed and not inclined to be locked up! okay- I give in- where are you? Netherlands?
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Male 4,893

Lando - it`s clear that they are not wanted in the house. She even asks them to leave more than once. The cop says "if you weren`t so abrasive I would leave" as if he has the right to stay until she kisses his butt and strokes his ego.

You may be right that they were invited in, but I doubt it. At the beginning she says "why are you here", and thru out it`s clear that they aren`t welcome. He knows he isn`t allowed to walk right in which is why he says he smells weed. He is trying to build probable cause to justify the actions he has already taken.
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Male 2,416
@madduck

i bet you said that extra cheerfully, and asked them if they knew a good pizza place? if and when you are ever in me country, we`ll have to light one up (and yeah.. you can even ask a cop for a light.. did that once. very cheezy but still cool)
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Female 7,833
Surely if she did not invite them into her house and there was no clear and present danger they are there illegally? That being so, anything they find is not valid? Last time I got asked about the fragrant smoke wafting around I cheerfully admitted to finishing the last of it- thus there was noting that could be done.
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Male 3,842
[quote]the cops weren`t invited in[/quote]

How do we know that? Did they break the door down? Nope, it is still intact. How did they get into the house if they weren`t given permission to enter? The cops had already entered before the camera started rolling. How do you know they weren`t invited in?
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Male 2,416
@piperfawn.. tomorow on the fourth of may. We remmember the ones that fell in WWII. This doesnt compare to that, zo leave ze gestappo out of it.

Other then that, the cops weren`t invited in, refused to leave. claimed the girl was a druggie with circumstancial evidence at best, pretended to leace the house and when she went to close the door on his ass, threw her on the ground, and arrested her without giving a reason or reading her her rights. i know the best result is to get a lawyerd up and say nothing. but man, i`d be foaming at the mouth if they pulled smth like that on me..

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Male 2,711
And, turdburglar, unlike most here I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, as it appears I was with your reaction. I still think you are an ass that treats others like dirt, but I apologize for mistaking your idiotic rant at piper as support for these power-mad cops.
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Male 2,711
turdburglar, you are among the most offensive brain-dead idiots on this site and I`m sick and tired of your constant denigration of piper, who seems to know more about the real workings of America than you ever will. So stfu and go back to your fapping videos.
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Male 6,227
Ugggh. Video vignette of a police state. Remember when we used to say, "A man`s home is his castle"? I guess American police now have the right to enter your home without a warrant, stay as long as they want, and lecture you. Wasn`t there some kind of amendment to the Constitution that addressed this? Silly me. No one pays any attention to the Constitution anymore.
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Male 5,190
@greenbasterd

Same thing. But with more weed.
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Male 4,893

F-U chalket. Stupid dips#it. I agree with you, but you are just too god damn stupid to realize it. Effin moron.
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Male 4,893

Lando - you are nuts bro. If a cop comes into someones house without a warrant, thy better expect to hear some curse words. He was not welcome there and was just too arrogant to leave. She may have been a bitch after she was cuffed, but they had no right to cuff her to begin with.
How can anybody expect her to be nice to the cop when he was there uninvited, lecturing, and criticizing her. None of that was "police business" or "investigating a crime", it was a ego trip pure and simple.
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Male 2,376
NEVER let cops in your house! NEVER.. there are somany stupid laws and restrictions that every person in the USA is always guilty of something. dratin pot.. another person with a criminal record for having a little pot.. LOLOL i`ve been searched by cops they found my pot, then he told me to put everythuing back in my pocket and i almost got the weed back.. then he noticed and laughed and said no no i gota take that.. then i smiled and handed to him. gota love Canada
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Male 2,711
Phucking phascist police.
And I truly hope that Landogriffin and turdburglar get arrested for absolutely nothing very very soon. They need an awakening.

Virtually all "disorderly conduct" laws refer to activity in a public place. This was in her own home. Here is Alaska`s law. Do you see anything in there that explains her arrest? I didn`t. Go ahead, police-state-lovers, flame away.
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Male 4,893

Piperturd - I happen to agree with you about the police in this video. My problem with you is the constant ridiculous anti-American comments you make.
It`s hard to hear the beginning tho. From what I saw they came in the house without a warrant and wouldn`t leave immediately when asked. When she walked beside him it appears that her shoulder touched him, so he shoves her down and then arrests her. That`s how I saw it, and it`s completely garbage.
She lost her poo after they cuffed her which makes her hard to like.

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Male 3,842
I`m not going to repeat myself, but I would like to establish that cursing at police officers is disorderly conduct, ruled by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1942. Here`s a discussion from December 2012
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Male 5,005
turdburglar the first example that come to my mind about police kidnaping people in their houses is Nazi German. That`s all. You can say nall you want against her,but you also have to explain the conduct of this officers,THEY was the one doing disorderly conduct, they didn`t read her her rights or tell her what she was being detained for. Not a single valid motivation for this arrest is present.
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Female 1,540
@ 3:44 she goes to open the door behind him and he shoves her hard and then arrests her...makes sense :/ Gotta love abuse of power and CAMERAS!
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Male 19
This looked more like kidnapping than an arrest.
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Male 5,005
What disordely conduct? Tryng to close the door of HER home? AANd if police come in my house i don`t have to say "yes sir"as a puppet. Anyway seem that you deserve what police do to your people,you seems all very happy with what they do. This is kidnapping,plain and simple. Not a single valid reason was given for this "arrest". This cop was just enraged cause he had to leave the house without his "bounty".
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Male 3,842
@piperfawn - I watched the whole thing. All I could hear during the first 3:45 minutes over the sound of the TV was "poo poo poo" - she was cursing at the police officers, who were perfectly calm and reasonable.
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Male 4,893

piperfawn, you silly douche. You wouldn`t know the smell of freedom even if uncle Sam himself sat on your face and blew it directly into your big Italian nose.
Where does an Italian get off comparing America to Nazi Germany? Fascist arrogant eurodick.
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Male 5,874
Arrest the phone user while you`re there officer, they`re holding it vertically.
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Male 3,842
"good" german? I`m a hispanic american, and a stoner at that. I have no love for police, but if a police officer is investigating a 911 call at your home, you don`t argue and fight them, you say "yes, sir" and do what they tell you. The police actually seemed perfectly calm and acted properly. She was arrested for disorderly conduct but didn`t seem willing to accept that was the charge against her
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Male 5,005
LandoGriffin next time just don`t skip forward. You are sayng bullshats.
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Male 3,842
Later in the video (OK, I was curious) she keeps screaming "What am I being arrested for? You have to tell me!" even though the police officers repeatedly tell her "disorderly conduct" because she had been screaming in the officer`s faces for at least five minutes (maybe more before the camera started rolling) and trying to tell them how to do their job.
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Male 2,096
All "good" germans will approve of police procedure.
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Male 3,842
K, I fast-forwarded to the relevant part. At about 3:50 the police officer opens the door, allowing her to walk outside with him of her own volition. She chooses not to and walks away from the door. So he pushes her in front of the door, informing her that she is now under arrest and in their custody. She says "no I`m not" (whaaaa?) and tries to drop to the ground as the police officers are holding her up by her arms. So they push her to the ground and cuff her hands behind her back. This all seems like proper police procedure. I see no problem here. Then she yells "are you filming this?" and the person filming says "yes" (but why the hell did she not turn off the damn TV when her roommate or whatever was talking to the police for five minutes?) then outside she is screaming about being pushed to the ground. Note that she is unharmed in any way. I turned it off, then, because I got bored.

TL;DR - I don`t see anything wrong here
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Male 5,005
Link: Ah...I Like The Smell Of American Freedom [Rate Link] - I guess Gestapo officiers are clapping their hands from the tombs
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