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Date: 05/10/13 05:27 PM

32 Responses to 3D-Printed Gun Site Gets Censored By State Dept

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    May 10, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    Link: 3D-Printed Gun Site Gets Censored By State Dept - The State Dept. ordered DEFCAD.org, to remove various gun blueprints because they may violate intl. arms regulations.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 10, 2013 at 5:51 pm
    Meh they`ll just find another website to distribute it from.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    May 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    It`s a waste of time for the gov to try to stop this. I can go to the hardware store and build a 12 guage shotgun for a couple bucks. It doesn`t take a genius. Who even has a 3d printer anyways?
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
    2160 posts
    May 10, 2013 at 6:50 pm
    I´m with turdburglar on this, go look up zip guns, khybar pass copies and chechnyan rebel firearms if you want examples of what you can do without some silly expensive 3D printer.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 10, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Oh, well that solves that problem then doesn`t it.
    I mean, everyone does exactly what the US guv`ment tell them to.
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    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
    425 posts
    May 10, 2013 at 7:04 pm
    good luck stopping millions from torrenting it. oh waht`s taht ? i already got mine? no wai! *seed*
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    May 10, 2013 at 7:41 pm
    "I´m with turdburglar on this, go look up zip guns, khybar pass copies and chechnyan rebel firearms if you want examples of what you can do without some silly expensive 3D printer."

    Are any of those fully plastic though? A plastic gun can make it through a metal detector (sans ammo) where a zip gun can`t.

    Not trying to start yet another gun argument. Just asking.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    May 10, 2013 at 7:54 pm
    The firing pin in the gun they´re trying to ban here is metal,
    Also note the size of this thing compared to what you could make zip gun wise (say out of a flashlight tube or pen) and which is easier to disguise or smuggle in somewhere. The use of plastic leaves it having to be incredibly thick for even a small caliber where a metal tube can handle far more pressure and remain thin.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    May 10, 2013 at 8:02 pm
    Also a gallery of chechnyan homemade firearms for an example of what you can do with a basic toolshed and what people did in regions with strict gun regulations where 3D printers are possibly not even known to exist.

    Homemade firearms
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    May 10, 2013 at 8:45 pm
    Pandora`s box was opened, but this time she didn`t manage to capture reason.
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    Magickrat Male 40-49
    535 posts
    May 10, 2013 at 8:53 pm
    Yep, just wait till some Islamic schmuck shoots up a state building or another school or something with one of these 3D guns, then all you low-watt gun nut dolts will be crying about it...
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    thefatviking Male 18-29
    202 posts
    May 10, 2013 at 9:11 pm
    Nice try feds, but the genie is out of the lamp.
    You can`t put it back in there no matter how hard you try.
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    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
    560 posts
    May 11, 2013 at 1:14 am
    Thank-you American gun nut`s. Couple of generations down the line and the criminal element in the rest of the world will be able to manufacture these easier than importing their own weapons.... The rest of he developed world just got a lot less safe for us.
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    wildancrazy Male 40-49
    138 posts
    May 11, 2013 at 3:00 am
    People have had the ability to make firearms, well...forever. you can make one just like this with rubber bands, water pipe and a nail. in fact the Zip gun would be safer. How cowed you who fear knowledge truly are.... You`ve bought into your own slavery...
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    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
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    May 11, 2013 at 3:41 am
    To the people who are talking about the ability to make your own weapons before. The ability required some skill and the weapons were not practical. They were large and would set off metal detectors etc. Printing a gun takes almost no skill and give it a few generations will be fairly deadly and fairly hard to track with traditional equipment. This single shot gun may not be that dangerous to a mass amount of people. But it`s the start which is worrying. And as have been said before in the UK we got on perfectly fine without guns...
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    May 11, 2013 at 4:33 am
    "The ability required some skill and the weapons were not practical."

    I don`t know about you, but I could do it; no worries. The only thing preventing me is not wanting to and not wanting to get caught.

    The same still applies.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    May 11, 2013 at 5:43 am
    bakcagain21, I suggest first looking at where I am from, second debating what constitutes a firearm under EU law, third debating if you actually know a single thing about the topic, material strengths involved, or the whether or not any object within your household was crafted by other men using tools and how complex those objects are compared to a metal pipe and some springs.

    Fact is europe has plenty of illegal firearms activity as is, and the UK especially with homemade firearms. Also following the UK political/cultural perspective that the lower class is basically a threat but too "stupid" to do anything (such as illegally aquiring a gun by means such as making one or smuggling across borders) is also laughable.

    Now to metal detectors. How often do you go through them on a daily basis? Say at the tube station or shopping center or town square?
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    May 11, 2013 at 5:47 am
    Draculya is completely correct, the only reason most may not is a lack of will. Not everyone lacks that will. And not wanting to get caught, well, the police aren`t psychic.
    I´m a legal firearms owner and sportsman who visits the range often enough and prefer buying my blackpowder firearms that I use due to them looking prettier than what I could make myself. However actually making one is foolishly simple.
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    funnehkitteh Male 18-29
    528 posts
    May 11, 2013 at 6:05 am
    would you rather every citizen armed with a plastic, 1 shot pistol? or shotguns, sub machine guns, rifles etc, if the reason behind "firearm protection" in the USA is defense, I think a 1-2 shot gun is better
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    thefatviking Male 18-29
    202 posts
    May 11, 2013 at 6:32 am
    In case you didn`t understand the whole premise behind this project isn`t to provide everyone with guns. It`s to show that old fashioned governments are becoming obsolete and losing the power to control their people as technology advances much faster than the old political system.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
    1928 posts
    May 11, 2013 at 7:31 am
    Typical bureaucracy thinking..."Hey Fred, go unring that bell will ya!"
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    May 11, 2013 at 9:38 am
    If this catches on one of the first consequences will be a boom in the prosthetic hand industry.
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    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
    425 posts
    May 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    @fatviking

    Governments SHOULD NEVER be in control of their people, are you insane?

    The point is this

    Everyone deserves to be armed . Against, aggressors, against those who encroach, against trespassers, against mother nature and most importantly against tyranny as long as they have not proven themselves to be irresponsible.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4896 posts
    May 11, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Thank-you American gun nut`s...The rest of he developed world just got a lot less safe for us.

    Stop being such a pansy. Who`s responsibility is it to protect you? Answer: It`s your own damn responsibility. Only an idiot expects the government and police to safeguard your life.

    Also: If someone wants to kill you they probably aren`t going to buy a 3d printer and make a plastic gun to shoot you with. And why should we care if you are safe? It`s not our problem...IT`S YOURS. If anything is going to kill you it`s probably going to be Darwinism.
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    MadnessLvl2 Male 18-29
    144 posts
    May 11, 2013 at 1:08 pm
    @LordJim Nah, people will just print their own prosthetic hands haha.
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    richanddead Male 18-29
    3489 posts
    May 11, 2013 at 2:20 pm
    I don`t see why everyone is all bent out of shape, if you have a pipe, a nail, a block of wood, and a rubber band you can make your own gun. It really does not take too much imagination. Just get something to hit the the primer and hold the round without exploding. Zip guns have been around for years, why is this so special, there are plenty others that are easier to make and hold more rounds.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 11, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    LOL good luck with that you could make a gun in a simple machine shop if you wanted to.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 11, 2013 at 2:45 pm
    Right click save as lol so much for censorship!
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    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
    560 posts
    May 12, 2013 at 1:28 am
    @Draculya I don`t know about you, but I could do it; no worries. The only thing preventing me is not wanting to and not wanting to get caught.

    I can repair my own car, I worked as a science technician as a teenager , I can probably without too much problem make certain drugs. My brother is an electrician whom I help out occasionally I can do a lot of wiring.

    These things are not that difficult to me or many others, but I recognise you need a certain degree of craftmenship or practical skill. Look how many people struggle to put up an Ikea flatpack...

    Clickinh a few buttons and assembling this is a hell of a lot more simple. It`s this guy`s whole point making it so everyone can have a gun.
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    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
    560 posts
    May 12, 2013 at 1:45 am
    @Vikingguy you weren`t the only one to suggest it.

    1 see my reply to draculya for the point about making weapons

    2Actually looked it up on Halsbury`s Eu`s definition of a firearm will only come into play with a interstate dimension to a case. As their competence on crime aren`t absolute yet. This would fall foul of firearm legislation.

    3 You may not use metal detectors in your everyday life. When I visit high court, supreme court etc in London metal detectors. Portcullis house and parliament metal detectors. Certain clubs down SE1 metal detectors.

    4 the whole mantra of this guy is make firearms available to everyone. If I`m organised criminal, why riskily import weapons when I can now print, and then discard at the scene a weapon that won`t be traced. I`m not saying we`re getting a revolution but this is a dangerous development once people start putting this idea to nefarious means.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    May 12, 2013 at 10:52 pm
    You can`t unring a bell.
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    InTheNameOf Male 30-39
    335 posts
    May 15, 2013 at 6:12 pm
    "You can`t unring a bell."

    No but you may be able to download plans for printing a silencer for your ringing bell.

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