Transgender Beating On A Woman In An MMA Match

Submitted by: ExpensiveT 4 years ago in Sports

We"ve read about her here, now here she is in action. Transgender allowed in a women"s MMA match. Is this fair?
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Male 683
I`m sure there`s a reason why this video took a while to surface, the transgender woman probably doesn`t absolutely destroy every competitor.

As far as undergoing male puberty, the only advantage she would have at this point is possibly being taller. Hormones drastically reduce muscle mass, she`s no stronger than other biological women at this point.

Final note, cut the transphobia. She wants female pronouns, she gets them. Also, transgender is not a noun, it would be correct to refer to her as a transgender woman, but not to simply refer to her as "transgender" like in the original posting.
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Male 14,331
@JacobTrue13

So everyone who disagrees with you should die. HOW PROGRESSIVE OF YOU!!
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Female 6,381
What a lot of debate over this! And remember the Olympics has given up gender tests.
I kinda think if a male-to female person made their transition as a kid (and I`ve seen lots of that on TV), there will be no difference when it comes to muscle mass or other physical characteristics. But when someone does the old switcheroo at 25, 35, whatever, you have to wonder if, even if they appear to have the same muscle mass, if what they have left isn`t stronger pound for pound than a regular female`s? It sure looks that way, despite claims that everyone`s on an equal footing. This debate is going to go on for a long time.
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Female 4,447
Jacob, you must be new around here. As to the fairness or lack thereof demonstrated in the video, I`ll just keep my opinions to myself.
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Male 260
Fu*k, you non-nice individuals are so goddamn bigoted. DIE.
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Male 260
drat you AtheistAlien. Even if you disagree with the decision, referring to trans women as `guys` is drating sick. I hope your hateful transphobic ass gets hit by a drating freight train you loser.

Same goes for anyone else on here being a goddamn bigot.
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Male 809
The transgender guy is a joke and the people who let him fight women are idiots and I hope they get sued.
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Male 3,621
personally i think all form of organized fighting is wrong and stupid and pretty damn gay. watching a bunch of half naked guys kick the poo out of each other aint my kind of thing, sounds like something the ancient greeks would like though. the only wrestling i like, as ive said before im sure, is ultimate surrender.
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Female 231
I`m sure she`s gone through all the proper strength tests to make sure it`s fair. Nice to see how transphobic you guys are though.
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Male 2,419
Turdburglar,

Agreed to disagree, And i do think they should keep an eye on the "fairness" of this fighter for sure. Don`t get me wrong. I have a hunch though that as soon as it becomes appearant that "shim" has an unfair advantge. The rest of the fighters will object. What baffles me the most is the fact that, you feel female, (i mean why else would you remove your d.ic.k) but you take up such a "testoterone" driven sport? wha??
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Male 14,331
[quote]That`s not a woman .... it`s dude with no dick dressed in drag. Cutting off your balls can`t undo 31 years of muscle and bone development. Not to mention narrower hips and wider shoulders. [/quote]

Bingo he`s got more testosterone mutilating your dick dosen`t change that your body devolped as a male.
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Male 4,891

I completely disagree MrOrange. I won`t comment on the other fighters you named, which doesn`t matter much in this context anyways. The gal seemed to have good form, and shim simply overpowered hesheits way out of the guard and into full mount. It was a beating from the get go.

Of course there are always differences in strength in most every fight, but the weight classes usually keep it close enough so those strength and conditioning differences are more apparent in the latter rounds. This was the beginning of the fight, where both fighters are fresh. What I saw was not overwhelming technique, but instead overwhelming strength. We may just have to agree to disagree.
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Male 2,419
Turdburglar, the take down was a beauty, but due to the fact the blonde was off balance, that would knock the wind out of most people s/he is Fast i`ll grant you that. as for the rest.. i think you need to watch that fight again, and go and see some of rousi and chris cyborgs matches. there is alway going to be someone stronger, or faster or more skilled. thats the nature of the game. i didn`t see enough of a strenght differnce to say this shouldn`t happen, maybe more fight will prove otherwise. if this disqualifies s/he then Cris Cyborg shouldn`t be allowed near a ring...
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Male 47
That`s not a woman .... it`s dude with no dick dressed in drag. Cutting off your balls can`t undo 31 years of muscle and bone development. Not to mention narrower hips and wider shoulders.
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Female 160
Yes, yes it is. I don`t see why they don`t have men and women go against each other seeing as they are both able to fight.
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Male 4,891

MrOrange - Are you nuts? He/she CLEARLY over powered her. BIG TIME! Almost instant take-down when the fight begins. He/she pulled right out of her guard and had the full mount in only a few seconds. Completely over powered her. What fight did you watch?
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Male 554
Sure it`s fair.
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Male 2,332
Of course it`s fair. We`re all equal right? ;)

I do enjoy watching idealism bite itself in the ass like this.
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Female 30
A women with uterus but no ovaries would still have the strength of a woman because she doesn`t have testosterone to bulk her in any manly way.
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Male 2,419
Just put her up against Cristiane cyborg Santos.. they can have their own league of former men.
As for it bieng fair? i`m leaning towards yess, she`s using oestrogen, the rest of the bitches testosteron. i must admit i had my doubts, but this fight clearly demonstrates She did not have the strenght advantage. otherwise that armlock would have set in 0.5 seconds and the other girl would not have been able to fight it off as long as she had. go take a look a Roussy if you wanna see what i mean.
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Male 3,631
It was all fun and games when it came to the beauty pageant.. now what?
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Male 238
@thatjimguy

no no no. It only works one way. If you don`t have balls you`re not a man, you`re a woman. But if you don`t have ovaries you can still be a woman.
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Male 3,060
No, not at all. It doesn`t matter a goddamn what these people do. He is born a man. He has XY chromosomes, so he will always be a man. Making an outie an innie will never change the fact that he was born a man.
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Male 468
if you don`t have ovaries, can you be a woman?
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Male 3,147
It would have been unfair if they`d sprung this on her... but she knew who she was fighting before she got in the ring - so no.. it`s not unfair, I think she took the fight thinking `if i win, I`ll claim I beat a man... and in I lose I`ll claim it was unfair that I had to fight a man in the guise of a woman`.

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Male 4,849
Which one is the transgender woman?
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Female 1,234
This isn`t fair at all.
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Male 39,548

fap fap fap fap
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Male 4,891

[quote] Looks like she won the fight because of her skills, not her Y chromosome, doesn`t it? [/quote]

I completely disagree. She was completely overpowered by the he-she. This sets a bad/unfair precedence.
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Male 1,252
Not even remotely is it the least bit fair... having 25 years of natural testosterone growth is no different than a guy using artificial steroids...just because youve been off the hormone injections for a year doesnt mean its a fair fight.
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Male 1,471
Men are much stronger than women physically. No amount of hormonal therapy will counter that fact.

If she wants to be a woman, fine. I`ll even call her "her". But she can`t fight women. It`s a huge and unfair advantage, and a much bigger hazard for the women she`s fighting.
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Male 977
Takes a messed up dude to whack off his stuff. Takes a whole new creature to want to go and beat up chicks. Loser.
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Male 586
YEAH cmon "equality" AMIRITE?
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Male 7
I would imagine its DNA would override hormone therapy, regarding bone structure, and capacity to build muscle/strength.

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Male 34
She doesn`t seem exceedingly manly. Looks like she won the fight because of her skills, not her Y chromosome, doesn`t it?
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Male 4,867
i felt uncomfortable watching that.
and not due to tight pants as the case would usually be watching two women rolling around like that.
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Male 50
Link: Transgender Beating On A Woman In An MMA Match [Rate Link] - We`ve read about her here, now here she is in action. Transgender allowed in a women`s MMA match. Is this fair?
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