This Guy Deserves A Medal [Pic]

Submitted by: 12chars 4 years ago in

Can I get an AMEN!
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Male 1,569
Amen
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Male 427
"So this is also my view; marriage is about procreation."
Really? So people who are fertile can`t get married and women who reach menopause have to get a divorce?
That makes sense.



I`m sorry to say this, but you`re retarded. Marriage exists in every single culture and pre-dates the bible and even writing itself. If you weren`t so ignorant you`d have realised by now that marriage has nothing to do with your religious belief. It existed before your religion began and will exist after it ends, so please keep your religious idiocy to yourself and drat off.
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Male 7,123
`Why do I have to always always always redefine my terms?`

Dunno. Why is that?

`So this is also my view; marriage is about procreation.`

So you would limit marriage to fertile couples? Anyone past child-bearing age or infertile should be entitled to a civil union but they can`t call it a marriage because then you get all confused and have to redefine your terms?

The church did not invent marriage. The church does not own marriage. I have no church, no religion and no god, bishop or prelate has my regard but I`m still married.

The council of American Bishops (or the RC church or Imam whatever) has as much relevance to my relationship and marriage as the X Factor judges have on my taste in music.



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Male 8,132
papajohns1

""Why do I have to always always always redefine my terms?"

You don`t. The rest of us just don`t give a f.uck what "your terms" are. Two people you`ll never meet don`t need to live their lives in accordance to "your terms".

So you and your bronze aged fairy tales, and your leaders in their silly hats can define it anyway you see fit, just keep it out of the laws. There are lots of appropriate places for bigotry and stupidity in this country, the legal system isn`t one of them.
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Male 8,132
papajon0s1

Lets try this. I will say EXACTLY what you said, but replace one word. You tell me what you think:

"I have no problems with blacks or any two people who want to enter in an agreement for all other civil purposes including but not limited to property rights, power of attorney issues, medical issues, and more. I say, have at it and I`d think that would make life less difficult for all of us.

So in the end, are we just arguing a definition of a word? In a sense, I say yes. And I say it`s important. Why do I have to always always always redefine my terms?"

Now if I said that in all seriousness and then told you I wasn`t a racist would you believe me?

Same thing. Welcome to being a bigot! Acceptance is the first step.


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Male 2,711
"marriage is about procreation"

Oh come on! That old argument just doesn`t fly, dude. Marriage is about love. Marriage is about commitment. Marriage is about sharing. Procreation? It`s (often but not always) a RESULT of marriage but is certainly NOT the cause or justification for it. That is not what gives a marriage meaning.

When I got married, I was 35 and my wife was 40. She had a 19-year-old son (who I`ve known since he was born, and we are now best friends as well as family. Yes, I`m a lucky guy!) and was done with kids. By your logic, my marriage is invalid and pointless. I assure you, YOU ARE SO VERY VERY WRONG.

"Why do I have to always redefine my terms?"

Because your current definition is narrow-minded and inaccurate. Ok?
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Female 1,803
"Why can`t we just call all marriages "civil unions" by way of the state and leave marriage one`s religious (or not) beliefs?"

If a particular church decides they don`t have a problem with gay marriage and marries gay people, would you have a problem with that? Gay people want to be in a "marriage" for the same esoteric reason you do. There are religious gay people who want the church`s recognition just as much as you do. You talk about gay people as if they are intrinsically different than straights and they`re not. You`re not being forced to do anything differently in YOUR life so what`s the big deal?
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Male 579
The council of American Bishops says, "What are called `homosexual unions,` because they do not express full human complementarity and because they are inherently nonprocreative, cannot be given the status of marriage," the committee said."

So this is also my view; marriage is about procreation. Now, that said, I have no problems with gay or any two people who want to enter in an agreement for all other civil purposes including but not limited to property rights, power of attorney issues, medical issues, and more. I say, have at it and I`d think that would make life less difficult for all of us.

So in the end, are we just arguing a definition of a word? In a sense, I say yes. And I say it`s important. Why do I have to always always always redefine my terms? Why can`t we just call all marriages "civil unions" by way of the state and leave marriage one`s religious (or not) beliefs? Or is it that supporters actually want instituti
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Male 1,193
I am not sure what he was saying. Did the Pastor divorce his wife because he was loving his neighbor next door?
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Female 2,415
Amen!
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Male 10,339
Kooky 7th Day Adventists.
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Male 11,740
Not to mention churches that have services on Saturdays.
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Male 11,740
[quote]The Sabbath is Saturday, and pastors do not work on that day.[/quote]

Actually they do, I know quite a few of them. Many prepare their Sunday sermon on Saturday. There are also a lot of other events such as weddings. A pastor really doesn`t get a day off unless he or she actually takes a vacation day. It may not be an 8 hour day, but all of the pastors I know work most every day. Saturdays are generally busier than weekdays for them.
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Male 37,826
HEY! I got CENSORED!

BOO!

It`s STILL "Christian Bashing" to repeat fake "sermons".

@chalket your points and quotes are... accurate! There`s lots of "conflicting stuff" in the OT and NT, and "divorce" is one of them!
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Male 1,983
If you believe the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah was over sex, then you don`t know your own Bible.

I suggest you read it again, this time with the Cliff Notes.
Sex had nothing to do with it. It was all about how the treated their fellow man.

They were ultimately destroyed when Lot could not find even 10 honest men. So, nothing to do with sex, Jak.
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Male 8,132
Crakr

"Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for it."

Which fairy tale is that? I that the one where the guy offers up his two virgin daughters to be gang raped? Ah, bible. Such a good moral compass.
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Male 8,132
Chalket

"Like in Matthew... Or Mark... Or Luke..."

Hey, those aren`t the cherry-picked, contradictory, archaic passages he is choosing to acknowledge. Remember the bible is the direct word of god, except for the parts you don`t like.

"which pre-date Jesus and the Bible."

No. Jesus invented marriage, being good to one another, and lower case t jewelry.
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Male 2,711
"If you really, truly believe in the bible then you`re going to end up acting as crazy as the bible`s text."

Excellent point. Explains the comment right after yours!
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Male 2,711
"lets just get the State out of marriages and divorces"

That`s just plain stupid. Marriage (and divorce) are LEGAL constructs which pre-date Jesus and the Bible. Chew on this: You can get married without religion (Justice of the Peace, etc) but a marriage ceremony without government approval (a license) is not legally recognized.
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Male 2,711
@axeman929: "Christ did give some guidelines when it is ok."

Like in Matthew? "but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

Or Mark? "And He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery."

Or Luke: "Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery."

Shall I go on?
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Male 10,339
"and working on sunday"

CAREFUL!

The Sabbath is Saturday, and pastors do not work on that day. They work on Sunday, preaching to their flock.
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Male 3,631
Nema! (Atheist-version)
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Male 38,501

@ CrakrJak, yes in Leviticus the Bible does mention consequences, but Sodom & Gamorah is not about homosexuality. Re-read it, if you don`t add anything the story is about gang rape, which I agree is a bad idea. Jesus referred to S&G as "their sin of inhospitality" NOT `cause they were sissies.
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Male 4,395
I`m not taking the troll bait this time.
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Male 8,132
TheGuySmiley

"Most Christians"

Come on. I stuck up for the good ones, but you can`t honestly believe that. 85% of this country identifies as christian. You really telling me that most people in this country "strive to live as Christ did"?

"in this world that is plagued with sin"

Sin according to whom?

"in the long run the benefits are great"

... fingers crossed.
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Male 17,512
The Bible certainly does mention the consequences of homosexuality, adultery, and wickedness. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for it.

Christ forgives sin, he protected the prostitute that was almost stoned saying, "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone." But he also said to her, "Go, and sin no more."

In short, We as Christians aren`t to take the law into our own hands, but we shouldn`t tolerate sin if we can prevent it.
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Male 14,835
If you really, truly believe in the bible then you`re going to end up acting as crazy as the bible`s text. You`ll be a pressure cooker toting fundamentalist preacher.
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Male 195
As a Christian who has been divorced it is a tough thing. But Christ did give some guidelines when it is ok. Seems like he forgot to mention that when Christ himself talked about marriage and divorce he spoke only of men and women being married. I say lets just get the State out of marriages and divorces and let churches and social clubs handle marriage. Divorce was pretty simple in the Bible. You gave the ex a letter that said you were done. Christ spoke of divorce because people were murdering their spouses.
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Male 1,243
*rollseyes* Christian love is not only for 1 hour on Sunday. Most Christians strive to live as Christ did, and strive to love one another 24h/day 7d/week 365d/year. Granted, in this world that is plagued with sin, it`s not easy, and at times it`s quite difficult. But for those who continue to get up after they fall and keep walking the line, well that`s the road to success, and in the long run the benefits are great.
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Male 1,243
Bravo, this guy is spot on.

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Male 1,950
The Jesus loving gun toters then shot the pastor. He was probably gay anyhow.
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Male 3,909
"Christian love is only for 1 hour on Sunday, and certainly not for THOSE people."

I agree with this statement 100%. Most of the "good christians" I know are the weekend warrior type. I don`t know how many times I`ve heard one of them say (as they`re about to say or do something contradictory to traditional christian values) "It`s ok because I`ll just go to church and ask for forgiveness on Sunday."
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Male 8,132
Gerry1of1

"Christian love is only for 1 hour on Sunday, and certainly not for THOSE people."

Brace yourself. I gotta stand up for christians. Most of the ones I know are terrific people.

Mormons are so nice it almost seems fake and a methodist pastor I am friends with and his entire congregation routinely march in gay rights parades.
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Male 121
Source?
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Male 8,132
And wearing clothing of mixed fabric, and putting different crops in the same field, and working on sunday, etc.

So a farmer plowing over the weekend in a polyester shirt is F.UCKED.

No mention of not f.ucking little kids, though. Interesting.
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Male 38,501

He was fired the next day I`m sure.
Christian love is only for 1 hour on Sunday, and certainly not for THOSE people.
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Male 906
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