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68 Responses to Sexual Predators In FL Wear A Scarlett Letter[Pic]

  1. Profile photo of kitteh9lives
    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    April 11, 2013 at 4:59 pm
    Link: Sexual Predators In FL Wear A Scarlett Letter - Not on their forehead but in their front yard. Deserved punishment, or is this over the line?
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    grryan Male 30-39
    54 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 5:15 pm
    That`s some good police work there, Lou.
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    MelCervini Female 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 5:17 pm
    A good start
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    Ani187 Female 30-39
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    April 11, 2013 at 5:20 pm
    I think it depends on the situation. For instance, if Sean and his girlfriend enjoyed sexytimes while they were on opposite sides of the age of consent (and I don`t mean like WAY on the opposite sides, we`ll say he was 20 and she was 16), her parents find out and decide to make a big deal out of it...then this would be total overkill. If, however, Sean decided to grope up on little kids or rape people, then by all means, put up the sign and make it as big as you like.
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    psychoti Male 18-29
    198 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 5:21 pm
    Reminds me of that Mr. Show sketch.
  6. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    I just looked up the Florida Sexual Predators Act (which is referenced by this sign) and it states only that people, day care centers, schools, etc. located or living within 1 mile of a convicted sexual predator must be notified of the predator`s presence. The act says the notification must include the predator`s name and a recent photograph and it`s clear that the legislation intends for the local police to give a written bulletin to the schools, etc. Nowhere in the act does it state that the local law enforcement agency must post a sign like the one seen here. I get the sense that some enthusiastic local sheriff has gotten carried away. Notification as required by the FSPA is sensible; this sign, however, constitutes harassment and abuse.
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    jops360 Male 30-39
    689 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    at this rate they might as well just kill them and get it over with. what happens if they move like so many do? will they rip up the sign and move it with them? then what happens to the land value since everyone will know thats the house that the predator lived in. as much as i hate the idea, there has to be a line/time frame where this fades away. if not, then what about other crimes. why not do this to every drunk driver or convicted felon. just sayin
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    Why don`t you just give the villagers some pitchforks and torches then turn them loose?

    Stupid law.
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    JacobTrue13 Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2013 at 5:40 pm
    This is too far. Cruel and unusual. Justice should be about rehabilitation. Where is the rehabilitation in this?
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    Magickrat Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2013 at 5:41 pm
    Did the two men in the middle help put the sign up too?
  11. Profile photo of CodeJockey
    CodeJockey Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2013 at 5:42 pm
    "And so, Sean got a nice flat outside the other end of town..."
  12. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 5:45 pm
    @Gerry and Jacob: Agreed 100%. Can you just imagine how many times the house at the end of the driveway is going to have a shot fired at it at night? In Florida? I`d guess it`ll be happening at least once a month.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Now they`re talking about a registry for domestic violence just like the sexual predators list.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    I`d want to steel the sign and put it in someone else` yard

    }-)
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    CynicalGamer Male 40-49
    450 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 6:25 pm
    @Gerry1of1 - You and I need to hang out and make this happen. Putting it in someone else`s yard = Genius. Then we hide in the bushes, snuggling tight as the soft warm light of the morning sun caresses our dew covered bodies. Our arms and legs entwined as we share our warmth, waiting for our victim to leave for their day only to find out they are a pedophile and two strange grown men are spooning in their bushes. Purely for warmth mind you. As I said, genius.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 6:51 pm
    As much as these scumballs deserve such treatment, there are two problems in signposting them:
    1. Any "predator" sincere about becoming a decent citizen has no chance of finding/keeping a job, relating with neighbours, being a full member of society, etc. He`d likely become a hermit of sorts, fantasizing about his next victim.
    2. As Squrlz says, it begs targeting and abuse of all kinds, including arson and drive-bys. How could even mow his lawn?

    The statute seems driven more by revenge than any sincere attempt to forestall future assaults by offenders.
  17. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 7:09 pm
    @Gerry1: "steal"...

    Meanwhile:

    Sean Starling of Hannover Street had his car set on fire.
    Sean Starling of Covenington Ave`s house was spray painted and windows broken
    Sean Starling of Browning Road was threatened with violence by his neighbors if he didn`t move away
    Sean Starling of Hearth Street Apartments...

    You get the idea? This is just STUPID.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 7:11 pm
    Is the guy on the right Sean?
  19. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2013 at 7:33 pm
    Just a follow-up on my earlier post. This sign isn`t a result of Florida law (or more specifically, the Florida Sexual Predator Act); it`s a product of an overzealous sheriff who, I`d wager, thinks this photo will be just the thing to help him get elected in the next election cycle. ("Sheriff Brown, at right in photo above, takes a TOUGH STANCE on sexual predators.")

    I would hope that the local ACLU chapter would be willing to combat the sign on the basis of "cruel and unusual punishment." It is, after all, pretty much an invitation to vigilantism.
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    paco664 Male 40-49
    159 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 8:03 pm
    tattoo it on their foreheads......

    child molesters deserve no mercy...
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    Xprez Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2013 at 8:07 pm
    The only thing I see wrong is that some of these "predators" are just people that took a piss in the wrong spot, someone saw them and they get turned in and labeled a sexual deviant/predator. If they limited it to those that actually did anything to someone else or tried to, that would be genius.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2013 at 8:24 pm
    If this guy did anything involving sexual penetration, I`d much rather see "Here lies Sean Starling" with his execution date underneath.
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    bophus Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2013 at 8:34 pm
    who pays for the sign?
  24. Profile photo of oobaka
    oobaka Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2013 at 8:41 pm
    it`s odd that people convicted of sex crimes have to register and have poo like this done to them but how many convicted (and released) murderers are walking freely among us? There`s even a website (or 1000) that tracks sexual predators but, afaik, there`s none for killers. Not saying sexual predators deserve a break but I`d like to be informed if a murderer moved in next door...which was actually the case.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2013 at 8:57 pm
    As long as it is done by what level of an offender you are I am fine. If a 17 year-old continues to has sex with his 16 year-old girlfriend after his 18th b-day he could be classified as a sex offender. I wouldn`t want someone like that to go through this. Or a kid who gets caught sexting. There are a lot of stupid laws that should not be included with `sex offender`.
  26. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32844 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 9:01 pm
    If this guy did anything involving sexual penetration, I`d much rather see "Here lies Sean Starling"
    @paperduck: Which PARTICULAR "Sean Starling" would you enjoy seeing dead? The sex criminal or the 5-8 unfortunate souls who have the same name as him? Idiot.

    FYI: There`s a guy with the same name as me (and my name is NOT common) who lives just a few blocks away and buys catfood at the same store I do!

    While "Sean Starling" is an uncommon name (just 11 in the USA) that`s not the point.

    @oobaka: To be fair: Murderers actually have a lower rate of repeating their offence than pedophiles... possibly because they spend more time locked up? Anyhow, pedos are HIGH risk to re-offend. But once their time is up? What can you do?
  27. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 9:04 pm
    Heh! 32 of "me" in the USA...
    My last name is 12458th most common...
    More of us here in Canada, actually :-)

    How Many Of Me! Fun fun fun!
  28. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14629 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 9:40 pm
    I`d point out that many `unnatural sex acts` that are now considered normal, such as interracial sex, sex outside union and oral sex have all been considered sex crimes in the past.

    I`d honestly not want to know if my neighbour was convicted of more or less any crime. If he has done his time and the courts decide she is safe to be out in the community, then why hound her with signs like these.
  29. Profile photo of paperduck
    paperduck Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2013 at 9:41 pm
    @5cats - Which PARTICULAR "Sean Starling" would you enjoy seeing dead? The sex criminal or the 5-8 unfortunate souls who have the same name as him? Idiot.

    Umm the sex criminal. I didn`t think that that needed to be said. Why would i want someone with the same name dead???? Why are you calling me an idiot?
  30. Profile photo of insanmonster
    insanmonster Male 18-29
    291 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 9:44 pm
    Ha, I am the only one with my name in the entire US
  31. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 9:49 pm
    @Draculya: Excellent point! "homosexualism" was once considered a "mental illness"... (Wrongfully! I hasten to point that out! And a Canadian was the guy who got it changed!)

    @paperduck: And you know which one is which... how? Precisely? Eh?

    @insanmonster: LMAO! Good on ya! Mr. Dexter Fwebenshire I presume? (lolz!)
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2013 at 9:58 pm
    5cats are you serious? A case against someone isn`t made by what their name happens to be. Not sure what your thought process is here.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2013 at 9:59 pm
    Thanks for the link 5Cats. There are 3,970 people in the US with my name. That`s why I went with Markus for my writing name - there`s only 21.
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    sosueme1966 Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2013 at 10:07 pm
    Before I could form an opinion, I would need to know what he was convicted of. In many states, an 18 year old who has sex with a 16 year old can be labeled a "sexual predator".
  35. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 11, 2013 at 10:29 pm
    Thanks for the link 5Cats.
    YW! @markust! I`m 99% sure it was a post here at IAB that I found it. Fun, isn`t it?

    @paperduck: If TWO (or more) people have the same name(s)? HOW can you tell them apart based on what is written on THIS SIGN?
    You CANNOT!
    Duh!
    Thus my example of myself and another "xyz" who not only lives near me but owns a cat(s)!!!
    Ok? You DO get it now, correct?

  36. Profile photo of Keegan31
    Keegan31 Male 18-29
    228 posts
    April 11, 2013 at 11:27 pm
    There are 1 or fewer people in the U.S. with my name according to that website. I`m like a snowflake.
  37. Profile photo of Reignblazer
    Reignblazer Male 18-29
    2334 posts
    April 12, 2013 at 1:00 am
    Naming & shaming is a terrible idea. Really, i`m surprised these people didn`t just put him in one of these

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    MrAtari Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2013 at 1:47 am
    The Germans did that too... In WWII with jews...

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    bassman56 Male 50-59
    183 posts
    April 12, 2013 at 2:00 am
    MrAtari - so you equate Jews with convicted sexual predators? Really?
  40. Profile photo of ruthless1990
    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2013 at 2:39 am
    Change your name, problem fixed
    Or just don`t commit a sexual crime, that`s always my first point of call.
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    robthelurker Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2013 at 3:59 am
    @mratari are you calling jews pedophiles?
  42. Profile photo of Wendypants
    Wendypants Female 30-39
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    April 12, 2013 at 5:28 am
    Deserved punishment! It`s not a lifestyle choice he`s practicing (or religious) but a CRIME that he committed (more than once? hope not). If he can`t pay the price for his actions, he shouldn`t have done them in the first place.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 12, 2013 at 6:11 am

    @ 5Cats, thanks for the link. Interesting.
    There are 7 of me but as my name implies, 1 of 1 is unique so the other 6 can bugger off.
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    fancythat Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2013 at 6:25 am
    Strange thing is, the guy on the right is Sean Starling.
  45. Profile photo of Canoas
    Canoas Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2013 at 6:38 am
    This should be illegal tbh.. I mean, isn`t it supposed to be a corrective system? Shouldn`t he be legally viewed as a non-sexual predature now?
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    Canoas Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2013 at 6:42 am
    "Anyhow, pedos are HIGH risk to re-offend. But once their time is up? What can you do?"
    I`m no psychologist but I`m pretty sure warning everyone that he`s a sex offender and ruining his chances of having a normal life will do nothing but ensure he vents his frustration on some helpless kid.
  47. Profile photo of Canoas
    Canoas Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2013 at 6:48 am
    @wendypants
    He did pay the price. That`s what going to prison is, right?
    But hey, why not apply this to all crimes? Did you ever steal anything? Even just a pencil? Well, you should now have a sign on your door saying you`re a thief. If you can`t pay the price for your actions then you shouldn`t have stolen that pencil in 3rd grade.
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    faaaaq Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2013 at 7:18 am
    Canoas ignorance has left me speechless...
  49. Profile photo of elderban
    elderban Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2013 at 7:51 am
    Seems a bit unfair, honestly. If they`re going to do this for one set of convicted felons, they need to do it for all. I`d also like to know if I have a convicted murderer or theif living next to me as well.

    Oh, and if they did this around my area, there would literally be hundreds of signs up.
  50. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2013 at 7:53 am
    Might as well put that sign on the Florida border.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2013 at 8:32 am
    19 me`s in the US!!
  52. Profile photo of madduck
    madduck Female 50-59
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    April 12, 2013 at 9:01 am
    Disgraceful- how is this legal? Sexual crime- peeing in an alley, turning 18 while your girlfriend is still 16, flashing someone? The point of prison is to rehabilitate you into society or remove you if you are unsafe.
  53. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 12, 2013 at 10:03 am
    @paperduck: I offer sincere apologies for being rude. It was uncalled for and I`m sorry.

    Idiot = Me! :blush:

    @Gerry1of7 = Lolz! ;-)
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    jinxiejae Female 30-39
    2927 posts
    April 12, 2013 at 1:09 pm
    A convicted sexual predator could mean he tried to pick up a hooker, to being drunk and passing out naked in public, to he raped a child under 14. It`s a broad spectrum legally, depends on exactly what he did. if he did the latter then put the sign up.
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    jinxiejae Female 30-39
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    April 12, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    p.s. the under 14 was just an example
  56. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2013 at 1:28 pm
    I checked the Florida statutes and, for the sake of the discussion, here`s a (fictional) scenario that could result in a person being labeled a "Sexual Predator."

    A 24-year-old male, Bill, is taking care of his parents` house while they`re on vacation. His younger sister, Ann, a senior in high school, takes the occasion of their parents` absence to have a party. At the party, one of his sister`s friends, Lauren, comes on to Bill and winds up performing oral sex on him in a closet. The party is busted up by the police, and hearing what happened, Lauren`s parents are outraged. Turns out Lauren is 17 and they prosecute Bill, who is found guilty of having sex with a minor. A week later, Bill steps outside to find a red sign on his lawn identifying him as a "Sexual Predator."
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    Johanvb Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    I am with elderban on this one. If you do this for one convicted felon do it for all of them. Soon the warning sign industry will explode.

    And don`t give me some BS about you would like to know because of the safety of your child, because then i would like to see cars with warning-sings when the driver was arrested for DUI.
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    bordo Male 50-59
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    April 12, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    Why single out sex offenders, how about convicted murderers, gang members, muggers, etc.?
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    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2013 at 3:18 pm
    cruel and unusual. it`s bad enough that he has to personally inform us, and that there is a picture of him and an address and a database to look him up. but do you really need to humiliate him? he`s a person too, man..
  60. Profile photo of Ani187
    Ani187 Female 30-39
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    April 12, 2013 at 3:32 pm
    On a side note, 5cats, there`s only one of me in the U.S. Just one. I even put in my maiden name. Still just one. I`m awesome.
  61. Profile photo of kree_
    kree_ Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2013 at 5:29 pm
    Squirlz4sale here is a better story

    a man, bill, goes out on his 21st birthday. After having a few to many drinks he stumbles around trying to find a bathroom. Unable to locate a toilet, he ducks into an alley and pees behind a dumpster. A cop driving past sees bill urinating, and cites him for indecent exposure. Bill is found guilty. A week later, bill steps outside to find a red sign on his lawn.
  62. Profile photo of paco664
    paco664 Male 40-49
    159 posts
    April 12, 2013 at 7:54 pm
    obviously some of you guys don`t know the difference between a sexual OFFENDER.... and a drating PREDATOR....

    how the drat can you defend a drating sexual PREDATOR....

    and i live in florida...
  63. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    April 12, 2013 at 8:29 pm
    @Paco664: Paco, I think you need to read the laws of your own state before spouting off at others.

    Florida Statute 775.21.4 plainly states that "an offender shall be designated as a `sexual predator`" if he or she is convicted of any of a long list of sexual-related crimes--including making an obscene gesture to an elderly person. You read that correctly: If you make a "whack-off" gesture to the old man screaming at you to get off his driveway, and were convicted of same, you could be labeled as a sexual predator.

    Don`t believe me?

    Read for yourself.
  64. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    April 12, 2013 at 8:48 pm
    @Paco: Here`s some additional info regarding my last post to help you confirm what I`ve stated.

    FS 775.21 includes FS 825.1025 in its very long list of offenses for which, if convicted, a person is defined as a "sexual predator."

    FS 825.1025(4)a3 states that a person has committed a felony if he or she "intentionally commits any lewd or lascivious act that does not involve actual physical or sexual contact with the elderly person, including but not limited to the simulation of any act involving sexual activity."

    LINK
  65. Profile photo of andromeda33
    andromeda33 Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2013 at 9:56 pm
    This is actually horrible. These people have to live in fear, worried that their lives may be in danger. It`s also an invasion of privacy, and if someone goes after these "predators", is this sign worth another person going to prison for assault or murder?
  66. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2013 at 10:41 pm
    That`s right - `cause simply ENFORCING the law is never enough.
  67. Profile photo of keith2
    keith2 Male 30-39
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    April 14, 2013 at 5:18 am
    Depends.. was he the 18 year old kid who had a 17 year old girlfriend, or the real pedobear? All is fair if it`s the latter.
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    Runemang Male 30-39
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    April 16, 2013 at 7:10 pm
    Exactly, Keith2, was thinking the same thing. I`m all for calling out bad guys like this but let`s make sure it`s actually a bad guy who`s a threat.

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