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  1. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 4, 2013 at 9:23 am
    Link: NC Proposes State Religion Law - As For Taxpayers Of Other Or No Religion? Eff `em!
  2. Profile photo of patchouly
    patchouly Male 40-49
    4746 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 9:39 am
    The stupidity of religious nut jobs flares up again. I hope that one day, our society can be free of the evils and oppression of Christianity. So much hatred and evil. At this point, I think I`d rather have a group of Satanic worshipers living next door to me then a hate filled, vile, Christian.
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    cityncolour Male 30-39
    379 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 9:42 am
    you f*cking christians are getting out of f*cking hand. knock it off.
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
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    April 4, 2013 at 9:53 am
    Jihad anyone?
  5. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 4, 2013 at 9:54 am

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
    Congress can`t, maybe states can.
    The Supreme Court has always applied the 1st Amendment to states as well as Congress, but it`s an interesting question.

    I`m agin`it of course.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    April 4, 2013 at 9:54 am
    They can "propose" whatever they want, hahaha, doesn`t mean it will get anywhere. All it`s going to do is waste a whole sh*tload of taxpayers money and piss off a lot of people, have fun NC!!!
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    jackbluessel Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2013 at 9:57 am
    @patchouly

    But... but... what about Mormons? The worst thing the Mormons have done in the name of their church is not let African Americans have the priesthood... and they have since changed their views. Got any examples of anything else "evil" or "oppressive"?
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    April 4, 2013 at 10:05 am
    Amazing, isn`t it, that Christian fundamentalists consider Muslim fundamentalists to be backward? Damn, these folks are a$$holes!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 4, 2013 at 10:16 am
    Stupid laws are proposed all the time dosen`t mean it`s going to amount to s**t.

    Jihad anyone?

    Contrary to popular belief there are no stonings or beheading of infidels in NC.
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    Big61AL Male 40-49
    59 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 10:22 am
    It won`t work. This will just waste taxpayer`s money.
  11. Profile photo of whodat6484
    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    April 4, 2013 at 10:34 am
    @jackbluessel - You`re joking, right?

    Christian Atrocities link 1 (dating back to 315 AD to present time)


    Christian Atrocities Link 2 (similar to Link 1 but a bit more detailed)

    Christian Terrorism (acts by groups or individuals who claim Christian motivation for their actions)

    I could keep going but that should be sufficient.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 10:43 am
    jobs? infrastructure? hello?
  13. Profile photo of FoSchizle
    FoSchizle Male 18-29
    330 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 11:10 am
    I`m a Christian and this still scares me... I don`t want government telling people what to believe even if it happens to be what I believe.

    Technically they are right, the Constitution applies the first amendment to Congress. BUT courts have since tied it to the States as well. There`s no way this would fly.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 4, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Per Wiki, starting with Gitlow v. New York (1925), the Supreme Court has applied the First Amendment to each state. This was done through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    I`ll go along with that. It`s a short step from the "Official Religion" to laws based on the Official Religion. In which case slavery would be legal again.
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    handimanner Male 60-69
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    April 4, 2013 at 11:33 am
    Darn knee keeps jerking
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Terrified of "Sharia Law" but enacting a state religion that would systematically enact restrictions on individual freedoms is fine? Why is this okay?
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    April 4, 2013 at 11:53 am
    Actually Patchouly- Satanists are perfectly decent and reasonable- what is it? - Do what you will, but pay for it... sounds perfectly reasonable to me!!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 4, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    I`m okay with this as long as the choose the Jedi Church as the state religion.

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    fancythat Male 30-39
    1950 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 1:05 pm
    All religions are cults. Talking to invisible ghosts or their supposed zombie kids. Whatever. You can have your religion, just keep it off my fcking lawn.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 1:11 pm
    Oh I hate this state... Can`t wait to leave it for good, which is next week!! Woohoo!
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    April 4, 2013 at 1:40 pm
    I was never a fan of NC, I spent over 6 years (minus deployments) stationed at Camp Lejeune and hated it.
  22. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 4, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    @ whodat - you`re supposed to hate Camp Lejeune.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    April 4, 2013 at 2:25 pm
    No, the actual base itself is fine. The surrounding cities/towns suck. The only city in NC I really liked was Greenville, NC which was about an hour and a half drive. That`s where ECU is and we used to go there a lot to get liquored up and get laid. All there is in Jacksonville are strippers, skanks, barracks rats, and STD`s.
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    Fancysucksss Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    Are Christians trying to start poo again? I know not all Christians are like this.
    But this is scary poo.
    This shouldn`t be able to pass, so I`m not worried.
    But if this kind of mentality persists we are gonna have to slap some sense into them and forcefully educate them about the separation of church and state and the bloody history thinking like this has brought.
    So blind..so many walking blind in an imagined light
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    Good for them, prayer is always a good thing. So nulifying a ruling that prohibits prayer by public bodies likely will be good.. even though some people will get angry with it.

    patchouly: be the change you want to see in the world.. if you want to see less hatred and evil, time to man up and start living that way, that includes judging others, and putting them down.

    Gerry1of1: exactly

    whodat6484: Most Christians have no trouble in apologizing for atrocities involving Christianity, even though they weren`t personally responsible. To be honest and objective in condemnations of atrocities, whether caused by religion or secular movements, people should be equally considerate, apologizing for the proportionally larger atrocities committed by cultural leaders, espousing godless, non-theistic Utopian ideologies, within the "enlightened" 20th century alone.........cont.
  26. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 4, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    Oh, this WILL pass. It essentially already has. And Christianity WILL be made the state religion of North Carolina. Then, someone will have to go through the hassle and cost and pain in the ass of taking it to court where NC will be told to get their poo together. But, even though the law will be invalidated, they won`t take it off the books (see TX sodomy laws, for example, which, while are no longer enforceable are still on the books). Yes, this IS scary poo right here.
  27. Profile photo of TheGuySmiley
    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
    1243 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 3:36 pm
    whodat6484: Lest the intentions are really gratuitous attacks against religion, not condemnation against atrocities altogether.
  28. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 3:38 pm
    Well, okay, I was wrong. Seems the bill *has* been killed. For now. She that story here.
  29. Profile photo of TheGuySmiley
    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
    1243 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 3:43 pm
    FoSchizle: they`re simply trying to "nullify any federal ruling against Christian prayer by public bodies statewide." Basically they`re saying that "oh so you say we can`t pray? well we`re saying we can."

    fancythat: You`re entitled to your opinion, but it`s a bit biased, and you might benefit from reading: Is Christianity a cult? (it`s quite short)
  30. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 4:02 pm
    TheGuySmiley, no one, and I mean NO ONE is saying they "can`t pray." Let`s not lie about what`s going on. Just the opposite, the court said that they CAN pray, just that, on public property performing public-funded, public business, prayers had to be non-denominational.

    No court or law has ever limited the right of a Christian to pray in his/her own home, his/her own church or privately, to him/herself, no matter where he is. Let`s not pretend.
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    ak4775 Male 30-39
    354 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 4:10 pm
    These types of laws don`t pass and if state legislature passes them they don`t last long. Just as N. Dakota passed a no abortion after conception law it WILL be struck down.
  32. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 4:17 pm
    @Whodat

    I know what you mean. Fort Bragg for the last 3 years and I`ve hated every minute of it. I miss Fort Lewis...
  33. Profile photo of whodat6484
    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 4:48 pm
    @Kegomatix - Ouch, Ft Bragg is in the middle of nowhere isn`t it? I`ve never been there but that`s what it looks like.

    @TheGuySmiley - I`m not talking about apologies or anything like that. I was just replying to jackbluessel who asked, "Got any examples of anything else "evil" or "oppressive"?"
  34. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 5:22 pm
    It`s not really in the middle of nowhere, the problem is that it`s neighboring Fayetteville, which is far from a "charming" city.

    I`ve never made it up to Lejeune, but I hear good things about it. One of my soldiers goes up there to see his uncle almost every weekend. He says it`s pretty nice.
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    schecter5 Male 18-29
    406 posts
    April 4, 2013 at 10:25 pm
    I`m from Georgia, I currently live in Florida, and my family owns land in NC. I`m completely not ok with this. Believe what you want. If you don`t want to separate church from state, then why not include buddhism as well? Maybe islam or hinduism? Don`t be a Ferking biggot.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 5, 2013 at 6:30 am

    Fancysuckss, "Are Christians trying to start poo again? I know not all Christians are like this."
    Yes they are. If you take your mundane, average-Joe Christian off the street and put him in this job he`ll behave the same way. All religious people do, any religion. Religion does something to the brain. They can`t handle positions of power, the first thing they try do is legislate their version of God. Examples: No alcohol sales on Sundays, posting the 10 commandments on the courthouse walls, putting "under God" in the national pledge even though it was fine without it for 100 years.

    It`s like they don`t have responsibility any longer `cuase it`s "Gods will". If they harm people they didn`t do it, those sinners brought it on themselves. No compassion, no mercy, no tolerance.

    Except Buddhists. They don`t care what you do as long as you don`t hurt someone. Very cool religion... as religions go.
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    mikesex Male 60-69
    119 posts
    April 5, 2013 at 7:02 am
    Gerry: don`t be too sure about the Buddhists, either.

    try googling Buddhist Muslim violence Burma
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    2L82Pray Female 30-39
    70 posts
    April 5, 2013 at 8:59 am
    I`ve lived in NC off and on for 5 years (not by choice) and I`m leaving soon (by Choice, thank God!). It`s my DEVOUT Wish never to come back here. In fact, I never want to come back to the SOUTH, because of ISH like this and I`m From the South.

    Let me tell you how Intelligent these Bible thumping moral police are. I have to go down to Augusta, GA for a few days. I stop in at a local grocery store, on a Sun, and pick up a bottle of wine (in my state, liquor store closed on Sun, Wine/Beer at grocery store...OK). The clerk tells me she can`t sell me the Wine, It`s Sunday. BUT..she says seeing my shock, if I want there are several restaurants open down the street and they serve alcohol on Sunday. I say, So what you`re telling me is that I can`t buy a bottle of wine, go home and drink it in the privacy and safety of my home, but I can go drink at a bar and Drive home druk. Everyone in line behind me started laughing. Religion should NOT hold public Office!!
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
    2988 posts
    April 5, 2013 at 9:23 am
    I weep for the state of NC
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    April 5, 2013 at 1:21 pm
    I think the last line of the article says it all:

    Article 1, Section 5 of the North Carolina Constitution requires the state to observe federal law: "Every citizen of this State owes paramount allegiance to the Constitution and government of the United States, and no law or ordinance of the State in contravention or subversion thereof can have any binding force."

    Doesn`t that kinda nip it in the bud?
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    April 5, 2013 at 10:48 pm
    Think I`ll cross North Carolina of the bucket list...

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