Man Arrested For Refusing To Leave Gay Partner...

Submitted by: peakingo 4 years ago in

bedside at hospital.
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Male 307
I think it`s also important here to recognize the difference between a Power of Attorney and an Advanced Medical Directive.

Power of Attorney does *not* give you any medical or advocacy rights... in this case, the family would have control as blood relatives.

An Advance Medical Directive on the other hand is used to name a health care advocate and specifies your wishes - including that a lover/partner/best friend, etc. can visit you in any sort of medical environment you wish. Interestingly, you can also specify who is not allowed, including blood relatives and if you wish them to have no rights to medical decisions.

Beyond that - the hospitals "update" statement is full of crap - it says he was asked to leave for being disruptive only... but he didn`t become disruptive until he was asked to leave. As usual, trying to scurry away from gay prejudice.
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Male 5,626
"Can`t he just have his partner moved to a different hospital? he does have power of attorney."
Restraining order.

Both things appear to be true:
-He was making a scene.
-He was being discriminated against by both staff and family.
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Male 1,152
Can`t he just have his partner moved to a different hospital? he does have power of attorney.
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Male 1,745
smagboy who said anything about discrimination or hate? Oh because I said I can`t take gay marriage seriously must mean that?

Yes, I have yet to meet a gay couple that have been together their entire lives since being teenagers. In person or otherwise. If you know of any, I`d love to hear about it. You don`t even want to hear what a gay person I talked to about this said. So me not being able to take it seriously is only because gay people don`t take their relationships seriously, that is somehow my fault. ridiculous.
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Female 2,761
@papajon0s1

keep trolling
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Male 4,431
zombie mantra, paperduck? Sounds like you`ve got it down, too. You and your huge sampling of anecdotal evidence. If you call the desire of a world that lacks bigotry, that lacks discrimination, that lacks hatefulness zombie mantra, then so be it. I`d rather hope for that stuff than the alternative.
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Male 1,745
I`ve expressed my thoughts on this before and I really feel I need to say it again because everyone is ganging up on whoever says anything other than the zombie mantra.

I can`t really take it seriously either. Gay marriage is "marriage" (marriage in quotes) as far as I`m concerned. All I have to go off of is experiences and perspective I have.

I`ve known 6 gay people in my life, and not a single one was with the same guy more than a year, maybe less than that (an accountant where my dad used to work came to the company parties with a different guy every single time).

Yeah a lot of regular marriages are short lived. But consider this, out of the countless straight people that I know who are married, the shortest one I recall was 7 years. I know 2 couples off the top of my head who have been married for over 10 years and they`ve been together since high school.

It`s like calling a one-night-stand "marriage for a day" and then
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Male 883
`As a devout Catholic`.....

That was as far as I needed to read into your comment @papajon to know it would end up extremely narrow minded.
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Male 39,877

[quote]"Until it can be proved that M-M or F-F can procreate, it`s not a marriage in my book. " [/quote]Thank gawd we don`t all have to live by your book then.
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Male 761
@ papajon0s1

What American soldiers who have half their body blown off including their reproductive organs?

Do they not have a right to marry? They as a hetero couple can`t procreate.
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Male 12,138
[quote]Until it can be proved that M-M or F-F can procreate, it`s not a marriage in my book. Sorry, it just ain`t![/quote]
So, people who are sterile shouldn`t be allowed to marry? Post-menopausal women? I`d love to hear your thoughts on that.
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Male 684
marriage for love is a relatively new concept. Marriage used to be about selling your useless daughters to men who would take care of them instead of you. thus the dowry system. Also i find it ironic that all these Christians don`t believe gay marriage, but they will believe in an imaginary creature that grants life after death. Do you have any idea how you sound to rational people?
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Male 579
As a devout Catholic I can`t imagine anyone who claims to follow Christ not be on this man`s side when he wants to be with his hospitalized partner. Rules or not, anyone called to be compassionate for another is following the essence of what it means to follow Jesus (whether you believe matters not). I applaud this man`s efforts and commitment to help someone else.

That said, do I believe in gay marriage? Sorry, nope! Perhaps we should call it "civil unions" or some other term for all of us in the eyes of the state so no one else has to go through what this man did. Until it can be proved that M-M or F-F can procreate, it`s not a marriage in my book. Sorry, it just ain`t!
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Male 17,511
As usual there is more to the story than meets the eye. Apparently this guy was preventing the nurses from caring for his partner then threw a hissy fit when he was asked to leave. When he didn`t they called the police and then fought them too.

Stay Classy there Kansas City.
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Female 856
Poor guy, he must have been distraught. Even after having the foresight to sign a power of attorney, the family/hospital still overrode it. I think it is unacceptable to separate a loving couple, specially under such stressful circumstance.
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Male 1,016
has anyone considered that possibly the patient request that he not be present?
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Male 1,059
It doesn`t help that he kept trying to put his penis in the other guy`s mouth...
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Female 2,415
Was gonna post my thoughts... Gerry, markust123, Draculya, HalfPintRoo, OldOllie, turdburglar, and SmagBoy1 kinda covered the basic gist of what I was thinking. Thanks guys!
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Male 4,431
For those of you believing "disruption", have you ever seen a headline that read "Man Arrested For Refusing to Leave Wife`s Hospital Bed"? Or "Mom Arrested For Refusing to Leave Daughter`s Hospital Bed"? Okay then.

Plus, if you believe that story regardless, ask yourself this: if your husband or wife`s family showed up at a hospital where s/he was receiving care and started thinking they could call the shots for your husband/wife`s care, even though you`ve been the one there, know what`s going on, have been with them through it all, etc., and they ask that YOU be kicked out and the hospital staff made noises like they were considering it, how would YOU react?
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Male 4,431
If the hospital is receiving any federal funding, it is illegal to remove him based on sexual orientation. Matter of fact, if the patient had had his partner identified as his advocate, he could have had the family removed, BUT...

Hospitals who don`t wish to honor this Presidential order for hospitals receiving federal funding (not yet a law, by the way), they can manufacture any number of scenarios to have the person removed. The fact that that the family was there and wanted this man removed, that they were arguing with him, that they disagreed with him, is what`s at issue here. As his partner`s healthcare advocate there *should* have been no issue. The fact that there was is *absolutely* due to the fact that, as a gay man and "partner" as opposed to husband, he had less rights. Period. And it`s effing wrong.
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Male 452
I don`t see any problem with letting anyone visit any patient in a hospital as long as they aren`t disrupting treatment or causing a disturbance. Which, unfortunately, it sounds like this guy was doing both.
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Female 4,403
that is so F UCKED up.
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Male 4,891

What a horrible thing for the hospital to do. I didn`t see anything in the article about it, but I would bet religion has a hand in this.

Another reason to completely legalize homo marriage. Married couples have rights that couples who have just met do not have.

Dude had power of attorney, but I still think they would have taken his rights more seriously if they were married.
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Male 15,832
@paperduck, I don`t think you read the story. It was the patient`s relatives who had him thrown out. His power of attorney should have been honored. He needs to get a good lawyer and sue the hospital till they are paying him rent on their building.
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Male 1,745
Gerry, sure they do, I`ve seen it myself.
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Male 39,877

paperduck - a heterosexual married partner would never be asked to leave so there scene would never happen.
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Male 883
Seems the hospital responded but it sounds like @markust`s instincts were dead on and there`s more to the story than what has been presented.



updste
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Male 1,745
Gerry I`m pretty sure a heterosexual married couple would experience the same thing if they were creating a scene and getting nutso. Not sure what this guy did, but it really doesn`t sound like him being gay partner mattered.
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Male 39,877

@ Scuzoid - you`re missing the whole point. If allowed to marry there would never have been any question as to who belongs there, it`s all automatic.

I`ve seen this many times. Hospitals {and courts } side with blood relatives.
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Female 2,761
I did read that, I just felt the need to YELL it again. My best friend had me as her health care proxy because she hadn`t spoken to her parents in almost 10 years. Low and behold her parents showed up and tried to control the situation and have me removed. I showed up with papers and they were removed. As you said, that`s what this guy should have done.

BTW best friend pulled though :)
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Male 15,257
Something needs to be done. People opposing gay marriage are going to look like people opposing racial equality within the lifetime of their kids. Imagine when your grandkids google up your social media posts and ask "Gramps, why were you such a biggot?"
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Male 1,268
Meh, queen`s are larger emotional powder kegs than black women. Even the slightest hint that the guy didn`t deserve to be there by the nurse or the family member not in the video, and he rages enough to throw his baby on the bus. Cops intervene. No one records it. Gay rights discrimination!
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Male 4,989
Oh and congrats IAB for getting a story up the same day it came out. I didn`t think this one would make it past the gay blogs.
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Male 4,989
"Right, Gerry. THIS is why. GET HEALTH CARE PROXIES PEOPLE! Until you are real humans."

He had power of attorney. If he had remained calm and went and got his papers he would have been fine. Hospitals only call security if you are being disruptive. There is a lot more to this story. Moral though is this is one big reason why gay marriage needs to be legal.
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Male 1,745
Am I reading the same article? Hospital said it wasn`t because he was gay partner but apparently because he was being disruptive. Also article said its already illegal to do so because he`s gay.
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Female 2,761
Right, Gerry. THIS is why. GET HEALTH CARE PROXIES PEOPLE! Until you are real humans.
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Male 450
I saw this earlier. There is a lot of supposition there is more to the story than is being reported. Either way it is a bad situation for everyone involved. Christ man, let gays get married and lets start devoting our time to really important stuff like JayZ rapping about preferential treatment from the President.
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Male 39,877

What? But I keep hearing that civil unions and domestic partnerships are exactly equal to marriage. The we get the same rights with those so why push for marriage.... THIS is why.
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Male 761
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