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Don`t Let Logic Influence A New Law! [Pic+]


Obama parades Newton victims while warning against “”political stunts”” because he has nothing else.

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  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 12:22 pm
    Link: Don`t Let Logic Influence A New Law! - Obama parades Newton victims while warning against ``political stunts`` because he has nothing else.
  2. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 1:30 pm
    Two Obama posts in a row?

    It`s not MY fault! Uwaaa!

    Anyhow, I found this article SHORT and intelligent.
    I hope both sides of the issue will agree: emotional blackmail is an ugly thing... but to say "no more political stunts" during a political stunt? That takes a special kind of stupid...
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 1:30 pm
    THEY`RE TAKIN ER GUNZ!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 17, 2013 at 1:32 pm
    We obviously need pressure cooker control limit their capacity to only hold 7 ball bearings!!
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 1:34 pm
    Boston didn`t have "Anything" else so they blew up a race. I`ve heard a lot of crap in my life,but that was the crappiest.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 17, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    Boston didn`t have "Anything" else so they blew up a race. I`ve heard a lot of crap in my life,but that was the crappiest.

    Huh???? Can`t load the video am I missing something here?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    @Zeegrr60: The word "Boston" does not appear in this article... wtf are you tripping on, dude?

    In fact the `Clicky` doesn`t work for me... yet. So I again wonder WTF are you talking about?

    I went and re-read the article, just to be sure. Do TRY to remain on topic... k-thx-boi
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    @MacGovern: Funny, isn`t it? The "IAB Liberal Brigade" gives low scores and makes hate-filled comments... on something they haven`t even LOOKED AT yet!
    LOLZ!
    SEE @davymid!?! That`s what I`ve been talking about all this time!!
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 17, 2013 at 1:48 pm
    Yeah. I think the accidental broken linky has brought out the truth.

    Read first non-nice individuals. Read first.
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    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
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    April 17, 2013 at 1:48 pm
    5cats crackrjack the IAB leaders in misinformation and logical fallacies.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:04 pm
    Yeah. I think the accidental broken linky has brought out the truth.
    Thanks @auburnjunky! And thanks for using the word "linky" too ;-) So I`m not the only one!

    It`s not so much "broken" as it hasn`t started working yet. Sometimes these things take a few minutes, eh?

    But when the IAB-LB starts spouting off BEFORE the linky is up? That really tells you something...

    ...right @normalfreak2? Which PARTICULAR part of the article did you find to be "misinformation" eh? :-O Eh?
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    sparki1980 Male 30-39
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:04 pm
    Random picture of Obama at podium is boring. Am I to come to this site when I am bored, or when I want to be bored?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    "The "IAB Liberal Brigade" gives low scores and makes hate-filled comments... on something they haven`t even LOOKED AT yet!"

    Quit trying to be a victim. Your political posts never get past 2 because even the titles are dripping in partisan BS. You get your "facts" and "news" from Breitbart and Glenn Beck, how is anyone supposed to trust a word you post? Notice that even the most wacked out liberals on here don`t post articles from Olbermann or Maddow or whoever the leader of that side is now? I wouldn`t waste my time going to partisan liberal sites yet you somehow think your partisan conservative blogs are trustworthy. Sorry but if you get your "news" from untrustworthy sites you yourself are going to be untrustworthy and get low ratings.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:13 pm
    Liberals are always using victims as props and coffins as soapboxes to push their anti-constitutional gun control agenda.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:25 pm
    Obama has never done anything except political stunts. Not sure he knows anything else.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:26 pm
    Hooray! The `Clicky-Clicky` it `Worky-Worky`!

    @markust: I voted 4 (I`ve read the article, eh?)
    AT LEAST 3 others voted 1 BEFORE the article was up.

    Now, it`s entirely possible they voted "1" because the link wasn`t working yet, that happens!

    But the fact that several "IAB Liberal Brigade" (My "polite" version of what I call them...) COMMENTED NEGATIVELY ON THE ARTICLE before it was up? Just how am I `SUPPOSED` to take that?

    Other "left wing sites" get posted or linked ALL the time! I haven`t read Beck in... 3 years? 4? He got really boring.

    @sparki1980: It`s just easier for @FancyLad and @The_Mods to re-use the same picture as an avatar than to hunt out, get permission for new ones every time.
    Plus it alerts the reader to: Another post about THIS topic right away...
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    spanz Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:30 pm
    These pols make me puke--especially the Anointed One. No respect for the constitution, no respect for individual rights, no respect for 300 years of tradition and values in America. NOTHING that comes out of their mouths can be trusted. Can not negotiate with such people
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:39 pm
    "Other "left wing sites" get posted or linked ALL the time! I haven`t read Beck in... 3 years?"

    What are you talking about? You have posted at least three articles from Glenn Beck`s The Blaze. This current link you have is no winner to truth either. The longest quote they have from the president is three words. The others are one and two words then the rest of the sentences are filled in by the person who wrote the article. Talk about the blind leading the blind.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:52 pm
    @markust: I count 11? 12 words quoted in total... depends if you count the "the" eh? ;-) (Clinton joke there). That`s at least TWICE as many as the MSM will quote a Repub... accurately anyhow...

    It`s a report ON the event, not ABOUT the event! An opinion piece on what it means, rather than a travelogue (or transcript) of what was said...

    We`ve had this discussion before...

    The Blaze is Glen Beck? Well blow my lips off! Shows how "loyal" I am!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    "The Blaze is Glen Beck? Well blow my lips off! Shows how "loyal" I am!"

    Riiiiiiiiight
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 2:58 pm
    "I count 11? 12 words quoted in total."

    Man, you are the king of twisting things around. Only one of the quotes in your post is three words long. The rest of the quotes are two or one word long. And there are no links to the source. Yet you just take the parts filled in by the author as what the President said because why? Maybe because he is saying what you want to hear.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:11 pm
    I honestly did not know! I may have know years ago, but have since forgotten!

    I kept wondering why I`d link something (from The Blaze) and you`d stat complaining about Glen Beck. But you seem to toss his name around like a "fire and brimstone preacher" talking about Satan, so I just figured it was random name-calling...

    And that`s the truth!

    And it`s not a report on "the words the PotUS said" but their MEANING! He warns against political stunts... DURING a political stunt! Why is -that- important?
    No the original news item isn`t linked, I didn`t notice that. Usually it is. (Usually, I check for that, missed it this time)

    But it`s still optional: it`s about "why" he said, not "verbatim" what...
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    "But it`s still optional: it`s about "why" he said, not "verbatim" what..."

    But how do you even know what he said and in what context when the longest quote is only three words?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    What?!
    A politician was grandstanding?
    Why, that`s never happened before.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:20 pm
    "I honestly did not know! I may have know years ago, but have since forgotten!"

    Really? In this post of yours from 6 days ago I clearly state "I`d appreciate a warning that the link goes to Glenn Beck`s The Blaze. The last thing I want to do is give that partisan hack any ad revenue." Which you responded to me with, "@markust: When I hover my pointer over the "clicky" sign? It clearly shows where the link goes."
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm
    Fake outrage from a fake president.

    None of these measures would`ve stopped Loughner or Lanza from committing their crimes.

    Parading victims around in an effort to usurp our 2nd amendment is about as low as it gets.

    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:32 pm
    @5Cats

    Thanks for the post; the author succinctly and eloquently states an opinion that I also share.
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    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    @5cats AND markurst123

    stfu.. both of you.. You`ve digressed so far away from the original topic that it sickens me. Hey 5cats, get used to the liberals pulling on the strings of emotion and using confirmation bias regularly. Hey markurst123; you only talk about sources you can trust, so hows about you explain why abc aired a segment about a runner talking about heavily armed officials screaming "drill, it`s just a drill" before boston`s bomb

    and furthermore ; has anyone ever considered the notion that this current regime wants to distract ALL PARTIES and usurp the ultimate power? Shut up, and wake up, and get armed, and stop arguing with each other. If you really truly care about your rights both of you will realize that `stunts` are just something to distract you from the real truth and to cause tempers to flare up. Grow up . Both of you.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    "Fake outrage from a fake president."

    Which quote in the article from the President has you so worked up Crakrjak?

    Was it this one, "politics". That is pretty strong stuff there.

    Or was it, "political stunts". Yikes you can almost tell what he is talking about there.

    Maybe it was, "common sense". Oh lordy lordy how dare he say such a thing.

    Was it, "doing something". My word how shocking!

    "our children". How dare he talk about our children.

    "the gun lobby". Holy moly those are fighting words. Well at least it was three words.
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    Geogypsy Female 18-29
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:49 pm
    Oh everybody shut up and look at how sexy Canada`s new Liberal leader is for a second`s worth of a breather:


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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    "Hey markurst123; you only talk about sources you can trust, so hows about you explain why abc aired a segment about a runner talking about heavily armed officials screaming "drill, it`s just a drill" before boston`s bomb"

    It was a local Alabama NBC station and if you scroll down 36 posts you`ll see that pretty much everyone thought it was ridiculous to put the guy on the air.
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm
    @5Cats: "But the fact that several "IAB Liberal Brigade"... COMMENTED NEGATIVELY ON THE ARTICLE before it was up?

    What?! There were exactly 15 posts before you declared `Worky-Worky` and 11 of those were you and other "IAB Right-Wing Brigade". NONE of the others "COMMENTED NEGATIVELY ON THE ARTICLE" (though normalfreak2 did comment somewhat negatively on you and crakr, lol). FYI (since you seem to have missed his point): Zeegrr60`s comment was riffing on your caption, not the article. (And is he even in the "Liberal Brigade"?)
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 4:12 pm
    Holy crap Geogypsy is that the reincarnation of Bon Scott? Looks like he`s not drinking this time around.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    April 17, 2013 at 4:25 pm
    Those people CHOSE to put themselves out there in favor of gun control.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 4:26 pm
    @markust: Yes, it says "theblaze" and I wondered why you threw Glen Beck`s name in there too... Yes, I can be "that dense" at times, I admit it!

    *sings the "Everyone Makes Mistakes" song from Sesame Street*

    @HumanAction: Yw! I thought this was "IAB Worthy" because it is well written, concise and truthful: Obama has NO facts and ALL emotion for his arguments. That`s NOT how the PotUS is supposed to make new laws!

    @chalket: I refer to the time I posed, sorry if that was unclear.
    {When I complained} there were at least 3 people who voted "1", {and this was before the article was linked}.

    Hope that improves it for you.

    @Geogypsy: Oh GHOD no! They didn`t pick the Junior Treadeau? Not really!

    "On April 14, 2013, Trudeau was elected leader of the Liberal Party of Canada." - Wiki

    HAW HAW HAW! Idiots...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 4:32 pm
    Those people CHOSE to put themselves out there in favor of gun control.
    @FoolsPrussia: And MY article says clearly that they have every right to! Clearly!
    But they`re NOT "experts" on any subject, they`re just average people with an opinion.
    are the 150 wounded Bostonians now "experts on bomb making"? I think not... although one or two might be, by sheer coincidence... but it`s HIGHLY unlikely...

    @chalket: Sorry, hit char count:
    Yes he`s one of the "Liberal Brigade" he`s waaaay over there on the "left flank" ;-) He`s a proud member of the "Loonie Left" commando squad...
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    Geogypsy Female 18-29
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    April 17, 2013 at 5:02 pm
    @5cats, told you that you`re missing out on some good humor. ;-)
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 5:10 pm
    "Yes he`s one of the "Liberal Brigade""
    I guess I should get to know him better then!

    "proud member of the "Loonie Left" commando squad"
    I thought we were trying to be polite this time?

    "there were at least 3 people who voted "1" "
    Possibly, but that`s nowhere close to your claim of "several "IAB Liberal Brigade"... COMMENTED NEGATIVELY ON THE ARTICLE before it was up". You gave a plausible explanation for the rating with "it`s entirely possible they voted "1" because the link wasn`t working" so where are those "several" NEGATIVE COMMENTS?
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    April 17, 2013 at 5:13 pm
    "But they`re NOT "experts" on any subject, they`re just average people with an opinion.
    are the 150 wounded Bostonians now "experts on bomb making"? I think not... although one or two might be, by sheer coincidence... but it`s HIGHLY unlikely... "

    Those 150 Bostonions don`t have to be bomb making experts to want those sorts of bombings to be prevented, just as someone doesn`t have to be an expert in cars or alcohol to want laws to be passed to prevent drunk driving.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    @chalket: 1, 2, several. There were 3-6 votes and 3 comments, what word describes BOTH groups?
    "A few" yes.
    "A couple" could be...
    "Several" Bingo!

    Dictionary agrees! "An indefinite number meaning more than two and less than "many""
    Here there were... more than two? Check! Check!
    Less than many? Possibly. Check!

    The defense rests.

    @FoolsPrussia: OK then, I wasn`t going to say it (in fact I erased it from my post):

    Are they experts on TERRORISM? Prevention of terrorism? Nope! Would you tell the 150 to make new laws regarding terrorism? Just them? I don`t think that would be a good idea...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 5:56 pm
    "IAB Liberal Brigade" is polite...
    As polite as I get anyhow...

    The sub-groups of this "Military Unit" are not subject to the same polite treatment of the overall Unit.

    Anyhow:
    1:30:21 PM
    1:34:56 PM
    1:48:32 PM

    My comment: 2:04:15 PM

    See? The link starts working AFTER that.

    I`m not even counting 2:11:45 PM because he doesn`t refer to the article... and the link may have been working for him, IDK!
    So there you have it! :-)

    Smileys make everything OK!
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 7:36 pm
    From my perusal of the string so far, I`ve come to the conclusion that markust is so desperate to at the same time ignore and downplay the hypocrisy of his `dear leader` that he has to complain of the lengths of the quotes in a (failed) effort to make it seem he was taken out of context.

    You know, that `out of context` or `misspeak` that is claimed whenever a liberal says something dumb (which is often).

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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 8:38 pm
    @MeGrendel


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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 17, 2013 at 9:05 pm
    @Draculya: #1 They were in a station wagon, fail!
    #2 the dog was in a carrier, fail!
    #3:


    OM NOM NOM!
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    j_alegarbes Male 18-29
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    April 17, 2013 at 9:31 pm
    I was bored when I came to this site. Now I`m bored and fed up with political bullpoo. Thanks, Fancylad!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 17, 2013 at 11:14 pm
    "From my perusal of the string so far, I`ve come to the conclusion that markust is so desperate to at the same time ignore and downplay the hypocrisy of his `dear leader` that he has to complain of the lengths of the quotes in a (failed) effort to make it seem he was taken out of context."

    Are you kidding me? The quotes from the president were one to three words long. That is not a quote. They could have been from anything especially since there are no sources listed. The guy used a couple words of Obama`s and filled in the rest. Let`s see how you like it; When leaving the bathhouse MeGrendel said, "I`ve come" many times tonight. These guys were delightful especially when I had two "at the same time".
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 18, 2013 at 5:56 am
    markust123-"The quotes from the president were..."

    Irrelevent to the subject of the article.

    The gist of the article that Obama has repeatedly accused conservatives of pulling political stunts during the gun debate, while at the same time propagating the largest political stunt of the entire debate: taking the parents of the victims of Sandy Hook, parading them around Washington, shoving them in front of every camera he can, and giving them a ride on Air Force One.

    The sad thing is that HE probably doesn`t recognize it as a political stunt, because in his narcissistic mind anything HE does could not possibly be a `stunt`.

    And no matter how much you blather and yell and scream on this thread, you can not negate his hypocrisy.

    But we all have faith that you will not give it up, because YOU are incapable of admiting your dear leader could possibly by a hypocrit.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 18, 2013 at 5:57 am
    @Draculya,

    Given the choice, if I were a dog, I`d rather go for a ride with Romney than go to dinner with Obama.


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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 18, 2013 at 6:22 am
    "...But we all have faith that you will not give it up, because YOU are incapable of admiting your dear leader could possibly by a hypocrit."

    I think you are projecting with your whole response. I`m not all worked up like you are. I was just pointing out how dishonest the beginning of the article is. If you start an article dishonestly can you really expect people to believe or even read the rest of it? Well besides you guys that believe anything if it fits your narrative.

    I`m not some brainwashed Obama drone. I stay way way away from those blogs. I`ve admitted on here many times that he hasn`t done everything right. I wouldn`t call him being a hypocrite here I call it being a politician. I guess I do get a little defensive for him when I hear lie after lie attacking him. I happen to like my president. I think he is a good guy. That`s not a bad thing.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 18, 2013 at 6:55 am
    markust123-"If you start an article dishonestly..."

    Did not Obama accuse Republicans of using political stunts?
    Did not Obama use the families of Sandy Hook as a political stunt?

    In markust`s world, pointing out Obama`s hypocrisy is `dishonest`.

    markust123-"can you really expect people to believe or even read the rest of it?"

    Using that logic you could not believe or even listen to 90% of Obama speeches.
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    April 18, 2013 at 11:11 am
    1:30:21 PM - Not a negative comment on the article, perhaps a poke at you for submitting such a biased caption?

    1:34:56 PM - Again a comment on your caption, not the article. "he has nothing else" led to "Boston didn`t have anything else" (not saying I agree, but there is certainly no need to see your article to have made that observation).

    1:48:32 PM - Again, no need to follow the link to make this (somewhat accurate) observation.

    None of the three mentions or "COMMENT NEGATIVELY ON THE ARTICLE." They all refer to you or to your inflammatory caption (which gives more than enough justification for these comments). Very sorry, but ZERO does not qualify as "several".

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