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Date: 04/30/13 01:27 PM

31 Responses to DashCam Captures Bagram Crash

  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 30, 2013 at 1:28 pm
    Link: DashCam Captures Bagram Crash - A 747 goes down in Bagram, Kabul, Afghanistan. 7 killed.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    How were only 7 people killed?! That`s all that was on that plane?
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 1:46 pm
    Why did they fly it into a stall?
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    WOW! Textbook stall. My uneducated guess is there was plenty of pilot error involved.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 30, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Jesus is my copilot.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 30, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Only 7 people? Musta been a cargo plane.
    Looks like someone`s FedEx package ain`t gettin there on time.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    April 30, 2013 at 2:20 pm
    The internet says: Crash Report

    Reporting Website

    The date stamp in the video is wrong, this just happened today (afaik).

    The car is a military one, a K-9 unit (you can hear the dog).
    Apparently the Taliban IS trying to claim they shot it down, but no one believes them.

    @ruTenrMan: Yes. The normal crew is only 2, but 5 others were on board.

    The theory is that the load may have shifted & caused the stall, since there seems to be nothing visibly wrong otherwise. JUST a theory at this point!

    It`s horrific, unforgettable...
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    April 30, 2013 at 2:21 pm
    Elsewhere on the web, folks are saying that perhaps a load became unsecured and shifted towards the back- I read that a couple of hours ago, I guess. I`m unaware if this was if this was a cargo carrier or not, but I`ve witnessed ships flounder in similar scenarios.
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    Ani187 Female 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 2:27 pm
    It was carrying cargo and the crew. I think the article I read said 5 Army vehicles plus other cargo. So, it could very well have been a result of said cargo coming loose/shifting.
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    An-egg Male 30-39
    885 posts
    April 30, 2013 at 2:33 pm
    No, it happened yesterday.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    WTF? As a professional pilot, I can tell you that looks weird. Really weird.

    First, certainly not shot down.

    Second, almost certainly impossible by aerodynamic control of the aircraft - i.e. it could not achieve that attitude simply by mishandling. Not to prejudge the enquiry, I would be very surprised if that aircraft was not a long way out of centre-of-gravity limits, probably too far to have reached flying speed without a tailstrike (in a previous incident a mis-loaded 747-400 rotated without control input at 58 kts, although that one got airborne and actually landed safely).

    Therefore a load shift in flight (probably as it rotated) would be my guess; an educated guess, but only a guess until the details come in.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    This is one of my nightmares, for this to happen in front of me while driving. Every time I see a plane in the air flying below 10,000, I get nervous.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    I have to agree with the idea of loose/shifting cargo and I bet it was overloaded. Why would they load that sh*t on a 747 anyway? That`s what the C-5 Galaxy is made for.
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    cazalicious Male 18-29
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    April 30, 2013 at 5:34 pm
    The 747 can carry more cargo than the C-5... which was basically built to transport the M1A1 - everything else just happened to fit. This particular 747 was indeed a cargo configuration and with 99.9% certainty, it was aft load shift that brought them down (someone didn`t properly restrain the cargo).
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
    1511 posts
    April 30, 2013 at 7:17 pm
    Very sad video.
    I`m a just student pilot. But my first thoughts were a shift in cargo caused it to be uncontrollable. Too much weight in the rear prevented the controls from nosing down.
    I`ve spent hours and hours learning how to calculate the center of gravity based off cargo load. And that`s for a tiny plane.
    I`d hate to be the guy that "secured" the cargo for that flight!
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    April 30, 2013 at 7:22 pm
    I don`t get why we can hear engine, voice, and road noises, yet the driver watches the crash without so much as a "huh." What`s going on??
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    April 30, 2013 at 7:22 pm
    How come these people never have a reaction?

    You would have heard me scream, cry, gasp, SOMETHING
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 30, 2013 at 7:42 pm
    @carmium & @HalfPintRoo: Those "squeaky" noises MIGHT (I`m just guessing) have been him reporting to base. He`s an Army guy, on duty, British I think. He doesn`t "have time" to get all emotional...

    He does cuss at one point...

    Anyhow, what is there to say? Some people react to seeing the unthinkable with silence, eh?

    I know I would be talking! A mile a minute!
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    peakingo Male 30-39
    761 posts
    April 30, 2013 at 9:26 pm
    Where`s the Earth shattering kaboom?!

    Seriously, how is that I can hear his engine rev, but not hear the crash or explosion at all.

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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 11:02 pm
    DingDingDong - I work for DHL (It wasn`t our plane btw) - we have computers to instantly figure all that crap out.
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    Cartunze Male 60-69
    841 posts
    April 30, 2013 at 11:09 pm
    DingDingDong, I think you nailed it. I saw this video this morning and saw right away that the plane was in a stall at the beginning of the video. I was thinking that there was a malfunction in the controls. Since it just took off and would have been in a climb, a shifting cargo load would cause it to go into the stall and would be the more likely cause.
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2013 at 3:52 am
    @peakingo: I think you`ve been watching too many movies. Planes don`t explode when they crash. The fireball is just a fireball..
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    McThstlpnts Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2013 at 5:33 am
    That`s awful :-(
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    Burgh Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2013 at 6:38 am
    Seems a pretty steady troop that filmed it. No panic mode and he seemed to figure on avoiding the intersection and possible IED`s while driving closer.
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    irunfast86 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2013 at 8:11 am
    huh he didn`t scream at all. i would have been like a black man in a movie theater.
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    peakingo Male 30-39
    761 posts
    May 1, 2013 at 11:06 am
    @kain1: no, I`ve seen plane crashes before and there`s an expansion of pressure and metal. In all cases, this results in a explosive sound.

    Especially when fuel is ignited. The impact alone would`ve made noise.

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    MacBeth702 Female 50-59
    3 posts
    May 1, 2013 at 2:08 pm
    Please people. They showed us on IAB months ago how the whole video was photo shopped.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    May 1, 2013 at 3:18 pm
    @MacBeth: I think you may be mistaken since this just happened.

    Link please!
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    cazalicious Male 18-29
    4 posts
    May 2, 2013 at 9:50 pm
    @MacBeth: I can guarantee you this was not "shopped" in any way. As a member of the USAF, I can vouch for the currency and validity of this video.
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    MacBeth702 Female 50-59
    3 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 10:39 am
    @5Cats and it also happened in Russia in Dec 2012. Same exact footage.
    @ cazalicious put your money where your mouth is. Hahaha get it?
    I don`t usually comment.... but come on people!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    May 3, 2013 at 3:27 pm
    @MacBeth702: This Russian Crash?

    Sorry, but I think it`s real: CNN Thinks So

    And Here Too

    But I`m happy you "de-lurked" anyhow!

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