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Date: 04/29/13 08:43 AM

73 Responses to City Councilor Cries `Racism` Over A Quilt? [Pic+]

  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 8:44 am
    Link: City Councilor Cries `Racism` Over A Quilt? - A Martinsville VA Councilor says a High School Project contains racism. Does IAB agree?
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 8:56 am
    Racism often is in the eye of the beholder. I can see how going from black in the negative to gold in the positive could be taken as racist. Redo the one square with a blue stick figure, and the problem is solved.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 8:57 am
    The video: The interesting bit starts at about 2:00 and ends at about 3:30 for those with no patience... ;-)

    Listen to her "tone of voice" eh? What a harpy!
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    Byfield Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:01 am
    For drats sake, its racism because that woman is a horrifying racist and decided that the figure which was black was the kids calling black people lessers.
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    that1joshguy Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:10 am
    Not racist at all - it had to be some color and that`s all black is is another one of the colors....
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    NNoamfer Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:10 am
    drat me, what an idiot. The black stickman was obviously not a representation of a race, just a representation of a simple man, since a simple stickman is colored black. If the stickman was pink nobody would cry racism. And what race is golden? It would have been racist if he became white or any other race to be better. A black person is as golden as a white person.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:12 am
    Ah, nothing like keeping racism alive by being racist. Here`s a teachable moment for the kids - there are racist lefties in the world who will judge you guilty purely for the color of your skin. Don`t let them continue to ruin the world.
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    jpwhitfo Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:14 am
    Didn`t some council person get all pissed once at the mention of `Black Holes`?
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    footpenis Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:14 am
    knee grrr
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:21 am
    So every time I draw a stick figure using a black pen, pencil, crayon, or marker, I must make sure it is the biggest figure on the page or I am racist?

    Get a life.

    >>Racism often is in the eye of the beholder. <<

    BS. Treating someone differently based on their race is racism. Period. It is either or it is not.

    What can be a judgment call is if the actions or behavior taken / exhibited by a person toward another were the result of race or not.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:26 am
    This is life imitating South Park. The council woman who took offense is black. She should have backed down immediately. This is the kind of false outrage 5Cats reads every day at Glenn Beck`s The Blaze (quick check shows it is the lead "story"). Although he linked it through the original source he`s still subjecting us to mind numbing drivel. I`m coming here less and less because of this kind of sensational crap.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:29 am
    Nope.
    No grape-soda.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:34 am
    If the stickman was pink nobody would cry racism.
    @NNoamfer: Then it would be homophobia ;-)

    And what race is golden?
    NNoamfer: Canadians... ;-)

    @markust: So now you`re offended if Glen Beck EVEN COVERS THE SAME STORY?
    Gosh you`re getting mighty fussy over there, might want to take a "chill pill" and relax bro!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:34 am
    I honestly get a little sick of all the race card nonsense. People these days get offended by anything. In fact, I`m positive this comment has offended at least one person.
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    gary8162 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:38 am
    I suppose this couldv`e been avoided if the woman had said the figure represents being bereft or empty of knowledge while the gold represented the enrichment of knowledge. But it sounds like the "dark" councilwoman would`ve still pounced on that by saying "So it represents blacks as being stupid?"
    This woman has a serious chip on her shoulder, maybe deservedly so but not based on what is seen here.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:40 am
    "@markust: So now you`re offended if Glen Beck EVEN COVERS THE SAME STORY? Gosh you`re getting mighty fussy over there, might want to take a "chill pill" and relax bro!"

    Right. You know you saw this at The Blaze. I know you saw this at The Blaze. You`ve been subjecting us with crap from there for weeks. It`s sensational BS that I would rather not see.
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    grifter711 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:42 am
    TO RICK_S: If you make the stick figure blue you may upset The Blue Man Group. Everyone needs to get a grip and stop being so uptight. This being offended by every little thing is getting real old, real quick.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:45 am
    @gary8162: Yes!
    And if it had been a white stickman? Then that would mean blacks are incapable of learning!
    Racism!

    You know who`s `golden`? Ponyboy is golden!
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:48 am
    but the lady was okay with a black stick figure in a different part of the quilt?
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:50 am
    i wonder if this lady sees this bathroom as as whites only




    and this as blacks only:


  21. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:50 am
    You`ve been subjecting us with crap from there for weeks.

    @markust: #1 I only suggest, @FancyLad and/or @The_Mods post it for me.
    #2 Look at my latest 25 posts: 1? 2? are from The Blaze? That covers the past 3 weeks...

    This one is NOT "from The Blaze" so just "get over it" already!

    I was going to "let it slide" but you besmirched my reputation! Besmirched I tell you!
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:53 am
    HAHAHA!!! That councilwoman is a f*cking idiot! The kid tells her it`s not negative, it`s just meant to show the difference and the dumbass still insists it`s "offensive."

    The thing here is, no one is born racist, it`s taught, and this is exactly how it`s taught to them. The color of the stick figure doesn`t represent race to the kids, they just had to use 2 different colors so that`s what they picked 2 f*cking colors. By crying "racism" this councilwoman is teaching the kids to start thinking that way.

    If the black stick figure is a black person then I guess the gold one is supposed to be C-3PO.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 9:54 am
    @CoyoteKing: Ieee! I`ll never look at those signs the same way again!

    Subtle racism! Very subtle indeed! (lolz!)

    Gender Neutral Bathroom Sign
    Too big for IAB...
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:03 am
    "This one is NOT "from The Blaze" so just "get over it" already!"

    Really 5Cats. Here was my thought pattern when I saw the post: "Where the hell is he getting this crap from?" Searches the title on Google. Oh look, The Blaze.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:08 am
    "This is life imitating South Park."

    @markust123 - As soon as I started reading the article that`s the first thing that popped into my head. This comes straight from the South Park episode Chef Goes Nanners.


    "When Chef stands up & demands they address the racist aspect of the flag, he & the other adults discover that the children had not even perceived the racism of the flag..."
  26. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    April 29, 2013 at 10:14 am
    markust123-"I`m coming here less and less because of this kind of sensational crap."

    Well, see, there`s a MORE SENSATIONAL CRAP!!!


    To the councilwoman:
  27. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:15 am
    @markust: So it`s confirmed then? If Glen Beck covers it, I cannot post it on IAB without offending you?
    I think Beck covered the Boston Bombing... just fyi. Better avoid all those IAB posts too...

    I KNOW he never covered Girls und Panzer so I hope it`s safe to post THIS eh?

    Note: I have NO IDEA if Beck has covered `Girls und Panzer` or not. He might be a huge fan for all I know! Or care...
  28. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:19 am
    patchgrabber-"I`m positive "

    As a pessimist..that statement offends me.
  29. Profile photo of markust123
    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:24 am
    "@markust: So it`s confirmed then? If Glen Beck covers it, I cannot post it on IAB without offending you?"

    What I saying is your submissions choices have become more and more partisan through your sources to the point of being ridiculous and it makes me come here less and less. You are a negative influence on my life. I don`t need this mind garbage polluting things.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:26 am
    Damn, MindGarbage.com is taken. That would have been a good domain to own.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:30 am



    Somone needs to read the story of the boy who cried wolf.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:38 am
    "I only suggest, @FancyLad and/or @The_Mods post it for me."

    You`re right. I`m attacking the wrong person. Fancylad, if you keep allowing the excessively partisan posts to be approved I`m done. I`ve been ready to bail for a while. I`m one of the people that like likes to click the comments over and over to see what people are saying. That would be ad money gone.
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    YugureKage Female 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:46 am
    people really need to stop seeing race in everything...every little thing...I mean come on! To me the black stick figure is supposed to be the shadow of ignorance, being "in the dark" about not knowing something, and then the gold one is the sun shining the light of knowledge. It isn`t saying that black people are stupid, but that is the way people are going to interpret it because our society is plagued by racism and seeing race in everything. We won`t ever be able to truly express ourselves without someone crying RACIST! It`s all just so stupid, and every time a generation starts moving away from racism by just not thinking in this way they are immediately told that it`s racist and thus the cycle of racism is perpetuated. Whodat said it better than I, I am not making much sense right now I know.
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    robthelurker Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:46 am
    i can see how it would offend people. art is all about expressing yourself, but not everyone may understand. with out the artist to explain the context, i was very confused. though it was not the artists intention, what i felt was being expressed in the patchwork was that white people were represented by gold and are superior to black people. of course it should be displayed, but definitely with a disclaimer so that idiots like me who didnt understand the artists true expression wont be confused. the expression the artist was trying to create may not be felt the same way as that of some one looking upon the artists work. art is expression, to both the artist and the patron.
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    fancythat Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 10:53 am
    BWhAhAHahAhHAa. What a wretched person. I`ll bet she could make every Disney character cry, too.
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    Geogypsy Female 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:01 am
    Oh my goshness, no, I don`t think that this is racist in any way...nor do I think that the children`s intended symbolic purpose for it is offensive. (BTW, I`ve read that black can be associated with naivety and formation so designating it the shade of the growing process is quite astute.)
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:03 am
    robthelurker-"i can see how it would offend people."

    I can too. It`s because some people are easily offended idiots who look for every oportunity to be `offended` if it furthers they victim status.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:22 am

    I`m a Golden person of color and highly offended.
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    ghoulie11 Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:23 am
    I don`t know what`s more ridiculous, the fact that the councilwoman took offence to color of a stick figure, or the response that was given by the NAACP.

    Seriously, the NAACP seem to be the ones perpetuating "racism". The student who created that square had no malicious intent when creating it, the perceived offence was completely on the part of that single councilwoman.
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    16comets09 Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:27 am
    the message is simple. black people are inferior and gold people have advanced the most in this country
  41. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:28 am
    @robthelurker: How do we know the boy who made this is "white"? That area of the USA has a high % of blacks, eh? (Note: The girl said he wasn`t there that day, eh?)

    Honest Question: Would it still be "racism" if the boy who made it was Black? Asian? Other?

    You`re right. I`m attacking the wrong person.
    I shall treasure this moment :treasure:

    @markust: Did you look at the IAB offerings? Lots are partisan one way or another; but most are in the "other" category. ie: not political at all...
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:30 am
    Some people are just idiots. There is nothing racist here except the idiot who thinks it racist.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:40 am
    Why is the little parkour guy black?! I find that offensive, are they trying to say that white people are incapable of parkour?!
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:42 am
    ghoulie11-"the NAACP seem to be the ones perpetuating "racism". "

    There`s no `seem` to it. They`re rather obvious about it.

    It`s their bread and butter. They don`t WANT it to go away.
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    edana42 Female 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 12:07 pm
    @ 5Cats - Nothing Gold Can Stay - win!

    "white people were represented by gold and are superior to black people"

    never was the race of either figure mentioned. Both figures represented the same "person/group of students" presenting before the was knowledge was acquired (black) and after the knowledge was acquired (gold).
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    It`s life imitating the Simpsons in that how do these complete morons keep getting elected to office?
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    April 29, 2013 at 12:25 pm
    Obviously not racist. I took it as a shadow figure and the gold as sunlight. Plato`s cave may be taking it too far but it ain`t about race.

    I suspect this councillor is playing to her perceived constituency.
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    gherwrull Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 12:27 pm
    Totally racist, just like the white pieces always getting to go first in chess.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 1:13 pm
    Seriously? This Congresswoman should step down in shame. This is so friggin` stupid.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 1:34 pm
    I sent her an e-mail: [email protected]
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    maggierose78 Female 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 2:09 pm
    Sometimes I wish everyone who cried racism for something so trivial would be given a good enema and enough Xanax to calm down an elephant.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2013 at 2:13 pm
    I would`ve retorted with, "Oh, so you think blacks are incapable of learning then?"


    It seems this councilwoman and markust are in the same boat: perceiving something that simply ISN`T there.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    " in a city that`s 45 percent African-American"
    And yet, none of those "top students" are black. THAT`s the issue she should be looking into. Why has her community failed to produce better students. Instead she`ll call the `achievers` racist.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    April 29, 2013 at 2:18 pm
    I`m not an expert on US politics, but I don`t think a city councillor is the same as a Congresswoman. I`ve been a district councillor in the UK and if that`s anything like the same it`s not big politics. Lends itself to big egos, though.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 2:43 pm
    You`re correct, LordJim, I misspoke. I meant Councilwoman.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    Oh, wait... that`s not politically correct either. Councilperson.
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    Cartunze Male 60-69
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    April 29, 2013 at 3:02 pm
    As a large gold person, I take offense that some of these kids might think I was once a small black person.

    I was thinking that it was going to be the big black dot in the lower left corner that was going to be controversial but my ears picked up as soon as she said "This is a small black person". Sometimes a small black person is just a small black person, or as Sigmund Freud said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar". The councilwoman is reading too much into the symbolism.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 3:17 pm
    Listen, I`m not trying to be a liberal tree hugger here, but, if you`re in the majority, you don`t get to define racism and you don`t get to define what`s racially offensive to minorities. That`s the exact opposite of how that works. Did this woman handle this situation badly? Yes. Supremely badly! But, does that make her concern invalid? Unless we`re in the minority, it`s not for us to judge. We`re not qualified.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 3:24 pm
    SmagBoy1, what they don`t get is that they don`t have the freedom to NOT be offended. Somewhere along the line, people think that is a freedom they have. PURSUIT of happiness, not happiness.
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    keith2 Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2013 at 5:18 pm
    They looooovveeee to claim them some good racism.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 5:29 pm
    @Cartunze: "As a large gold person"
    And @edana42 too:



    Winnipeg`s "Golden Boy" is on top of our Parliament Building!



    A few years ago they took him down and repaired him. We got to see him up close and personal! Yes, he`s 11 feet tall and buck naked...
    He was a gift from France :-) Merci!
  62. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2013 at 6:13 pm
    He`s 14 Feet Tall! Oops, my bad!

    I saw him myself, before the repairs, he was in rough shape. Nearly 100 years of standing on one foot will do that to a guy... :-?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 8:52 pm
    "The city already has issues with the Black community"

    lol
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:18 pm
    Keepin` the N word alive.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    April 29, 2013 at 11:50 pm
    over the top reaction to unintentional racism
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    Sleepyhallow Male 50-59
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    April 30, 2013 at 12:43 am
    Shame on you.
    There is enough blatant racism that you don`t have to search it out in places where it doesn`t exist.

    ::facepalm::
    Some people seem to be able to find offense in the simplest and most innocent of things.
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    TheShape Male 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 5:44 am
    I think people who find racism in things like this are racist.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 30, 2013 at 8:44 am
    SmagBoy1-"if you`re in the majority, you don`t get to define racism"

    And if you`re in a minority, you don`t get to define racism.

    The definition of Racism is:
    Noun
    1.The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as...
    2.Prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.

    THAT is the definition.

    This `lady`, is defining `racism` as she see fit, as it fits her agenda.

    If there had not been a black figure, she would have been offended.
    If there were many black figures, she would have been offended.
    Had there been `X`, or `Y`, or NOT had been `X` or `Y`, she would have been offended.

    The problem is not with the quilt, it`s with the idiot in the councilperson`s chair.
  69. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 30, 2013 at 8:44 am
    emmettyville-"over the top reaction to unintentional racism"

    Over the top reaction to NO racism. There was no racism presennt, unintentional, accidental or of any type.
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    Swaywithme Female 18-29
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    April 30, 2013 at 12:08 pm
    Those poor kids. You can just hear it the minute she asks them about it that they`re just stunned, they had no preconceived notion of any negative connotations. It was going from the darkness into the light of knowledge, it`s a metaphor not a literal statement. It has nothing to do with race, they are supposed to be universal figures.

    I wish somebody had just said "It has to do with light, not skin colour. There is no such thing as gold people"
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    Magentab0b Female 30-39
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    April 30, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    I thought the problem was the way the girl phrased it. She said the P word, Person.
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    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
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    April 30, 2013 at 5:08 pm
    hey IAB

    Contact information:
    203 Greyson St
    Martinsville, VA 24112
    336 580-3163
    [email protected]

    How about we tell her what we really think about this ?
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    synaw Male 18-29
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    April 30, 2013 at 5:13 pm
    i don`t see any racism here. just a councilwoman who looks too far into things. the children hadn`t received "trainging" on this subject? THEY DON`T NEED TRAINING SINCE CHILDREN ARE TAUGHT RACISM. YOU AREN`T BORN RACIST. YOU`RE BORN NOT GIVING A F*CK. THE PERSON WHO NEEDS TRAINING IS THE COUNCILWOMAN. THEY`RE CHILDREN. HOLY F*CKING SH*T. GOD DAMN.

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