Guns Don`t Kill People [Pic]

Submitted by: SweepOfDeath 4 years ago in Funny

Spoons Kill People.
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Female 1,467
Eh, I`d still be dating that guy if he wasn`t so opinionatedly oblivious in a mild but ceaselessly annoying intolerant way. It`d be like if Screech from Saved by the Bell wouldn`t shut up about how women shouldn`t have sex before marriage.
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Male 41,153
@musuko42: The point, which seems to have eluded you, is this:
Gun Grabbers argue that less guns = safety
They point at Britain and Australia, where "gun murders" have declined slightly since massive gun restrictions.
HOWEVER: #1 Most US States have WAY MORE guns per capita and LOWER overall crime rates than those places.
#2 "Gun Crimes" may or may not have dropped in B&A, but all other crimes have increased
#3 Meanwhile in the USA: guncrimes AND overall crime has been DROPPING despite the INCREASE in the number of guns owned by LAWFUL US citizens!
#4 The States with the strongest "gun restrictions" are the States with the MOST gun crime!
#5 If you take "race-based gang violence" out of the US numbers? It`s not all that different from Europe...

SO: The PROBLEM is not the number of LEGAL guns! It`s ILLEGAL GANGS! ffs...
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Male 14,331
@Musuko42

Now how do you make guns "safer?" You know they have this thing on them called a saftey it keeps them from firing.
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Male 2,850
@paco664

Your government DOES make laws to make vehicles safer. Seatbelts? Airbags?

You`ve kinda just talked yourself into defeating your own argument: laws are made to make cars safer, so why not guns?

Higher than "some" states...meaning four states? The four states with the lowest murder rates in your list? Heavens, it`s a disaster for the UK!

Why does that graph only show a handful of states anyway? What about the rest?
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Male 159
also.... automobiles kill approx 34,000 people in the U.S. annually...

we need to have congress make a law that cars cannot exceed 5mph and must be encased in either nerf or bubble wrap to avoid injury to other drivers or pedestrians...
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Male 159
actually britain`s murder rate is higher than some u.s. states.... oddly enough the gun ownership rates in these states are HIGH...

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Male 2,850
In any case, you`re talking about crime rates because you`re avoiding the truth of the matter. Cracked put it best:

In any case, please stop with this fakery and just admit the truth: you don`t care about crime safety: you just want the excuse to be a badass and shoot someone.

"In other words, are they obsessed with security, or are they obsessed with the idea of getting to shoot some motherdraters? Are gun manufacturers selling guns they think people will actually use, or are they selling a fantasy? Are they, in fact, filling an emotional need?"

Linky, well worth a read
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Male 2,850
@AvatarJohn
@5Cats

Would you stop trying to claim that Britain is a crime-ridden hell-hole? Some objective facts for you:

1: Our murder rate is way, WAY lower than yours. Even if it is rising (which I doubt), it`s got a LONG way to go before it`s even close to yours.

2: All crime is measured differently in different countries, so comparing rates for crimes other than those with obvious ways to measure them (such as murder) is pointless. For example, simply raising your fist in a threatening manner and not even swinging it could easily be classed as a violent crime in the UK, as causing fear of physical violence is the definition of assault in our law. It would be meaningless, then, to compare figures that include those crimes against figures for another country that would class that crime differently, if at all.
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Male 14,331
@Magentab0b

Sounds like a keeper!!!
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Female 6,381
It`s great that every responsible gun owner never does anything remotely foolish with them. It`s the irresponsible ones you have to watch out for. That`s probably only a million or so in America.
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Female 112
@Magentab0b I doubt it- if his crazy stabfest was so poorly aimed it didn`t kill the guy, then I doubt his crappy aim with a gun would have been much different. Also, kudos on your quality choice in dating material!
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Female 1,467
I dated a dude who did three years for attempted murder. He was high as f.uck and some ass mistook his girl for a prostitute and tried to solicit her services. So he pulled a knife and kept stabbing the guy until his girlfriend pulled him off. If he had a gun he wouldn`t have gone to jail cause he would have just showed the gun then walked away. Who am I kidding, he`d be in jail for murder.
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Female 1,467
I know a dude who was 4th wavier that would carry a titanium spork for protection . . . and ramen.
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Male 13,630
@5cats



This is what I meant
very dangerous, also pretty much everything
on Planet Earth should now be made illegal
even marzipan dildos
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Male 2,357
@chalket

Fair enough though I think it is very interesting/telling that you`ve cherry-picked data from a very arbitrary timeframe. Here`s a more reasonable dataset:

Binge Drinking
30 Day Use

However, if we look across a broader scope of time, we`ll see that the rates have been almost completely stagnant since the early 1990`s. This is really interesting because the National Minimum Drinking Age Act went into action in 1985. Strangely, underage drinking rates had been plummeting before the act yet shortly after (laws take a few years to work - ask any Obama supporter) they leveled off.

I think this data is a bit more telling than the decade you chose to present. Do you a
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Male 41,153
8 Gun Myths Debunked

Looks into this in depth.

Oh, that table below comes from CDC numbers (Center for Disease Control) not FBI, but I`ve read a lot of the FBI numbers and they say the same thing: blacks kill other blacks a LOT more often than whites kill other whites (given that they`re 17% of the US population, eh?)

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Male 41,153
[quote]*boars I mean boars![/quote]
@MacGovern: Are you poking fun at @Canoas? ;-)

@SmagBoy: I know full well what you`re saying, and can easily guess WHY too. But the fact remains that:
Gun ownership in the USA has gone UP
Gun Crime in the USA has gone DOWN
(by every measure you can apply: per capita, raw numbers, population adjusted & etc).

Meanwhile in Britain and Australia:
Gun ownership has fallen sharply.
Gun Crime has risen (or at least remained steady).
All other sorts of crime are UP (especially rape).

@AvatarJohn: iirc, this is straight from the FBI database. Blacks who live in places with HIGH gun control are killed at an alarming rate. In places with LESS gun control? That number falls.

Nothing in the "gun grabbers" arguments makes a lick of sense. Canada spent BILLIONS on "registration" and got exactly ZERO for it...
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Male 14,331
*boars I mean boars!
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Male 2,357
@Canoas

[quote]Are you stupid enough to claim that without auto-mobile licenses the same number of accidents would happen?[/quote]
Are you foolish enough to expect that licensing has significantly affected the number of accidents that occur each year? I would argue that they actually make it worse by providing an artificially-low false standard.

[quote]Or that if no license is need for buying alcohol the teen-age drinking problem won`t become any worse?[/quote]
Any type of prohibition has a tendency to exacerbate the problem. Do you expect that, for the long-term, the problem is better or worse due to licensing? I suspect it is worse.

[quote]The examples you gave completely countered your own argument.[/quote]
Perhaps is your convoluted view of the world - especially given your smug sense of self-importance. That sucks that you have to deal with the whole being European thing.
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Male 427
"After all, licenses are required to drive an automobile and still there are millions of preventable accidents each year. "
Are you stupid enough to claim that without auto-mobile licenses the same number of accidents would happen? Or that if no license is need for buying alcohol the teen-age drinking problem won`t become any worse?

The examples you gave completely countered your own argument.
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Male 427
@5cats
that table looks extremely biased. I mean, just look at the column titles.. "black" and "caucasian". It`s either black and white or caucasian and african american.
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Male 14,331
[quote]Well, a-bombs and anthrax don`t kill people on their own, either[/quote]

Ummmm do you know how anthrax works???

As for the "DA AZSSAULT WEAPONZ IZ EBILZ" argument define an assault weapon. Handguns kill way more than thoes rifles you hate. Do you know what alot of people hunt wild hogs with? Are you aware how nasty wild hogs are?
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Male 1,059
5Cats, that`s a fascinating chart. Did you know that when you correct for illegitimacy rates, the black and Caucasian murder rates are virtually identical? So it`s not guns that kill people, it`s single motherhood that kills people. Now we see the racism inherent in the (liberal) system, since they`ve been running the schools and the culture for decades!
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Male 1,059
SmagBoy1, actually, murder rates, especially those carried out by guns, have been dropping precipitously in the U.S. Especially since the end of the "assault weapons" ban.

In the U.K., on the other hand, where guns are outright banned altogether, murder rates are going up. Hmmm...

Also, he shouldn`t worry about the spoons. It`s the Big Mac`s that are making people fat. He needs to try this out with a cheeseburger -- leave one sitting in his fridge for a week and see if it`s made him gain any weight. I wouldn`t turn my back on it though - they`re crafty!
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Male 2,357
@Dr

[quote]It`s not that the guns themselves kill people, it`s that they make it really easy for unstable folks to do so.[/quote]
Do you have a suggestion to prevent this? Is there any evidence to support the notion that a market substitution effect won`t occur if high-capacity magazines are limited or if "assault weapons" are banned? I have not seen any such evidence.

Perhaps licensing makes sense, but is there any evidence to support the notion that it will be successful? After all, licenses are required to drive an automobile and still there are millions of preventable accidents each year.

A license is required to purchase and consume alcohol, yet underage drinking rates show no signs of slowing.

In my experiences, the government is not capable of determining an individuals performance adequacy. If that happens to be true, we`ve only managed to waste a ton of money.
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Male 2,357
@davymid

[quote]Yes, any one of those could kill a person, but where do you draw the line?[/quote]
Well, there are two parts to that answer. First off, we are provided the right to have some level of firearm access, so banning all firearms is out of the question (not that a total ban is being proposed).

Second, many people are starting to accept the position that citizens should have access to the same level of arms as the policing forces. Limit the police (federal, state and local) to handguns and I`m fine being limited to handguns as well.

The purpose is to avoid creating two "classes" of citizens: those with power and those without. In doing so, we encourage an honest and respectful relationship with the police.

Right now, we have monopolized power in law enforcement; they have weapons that we do not. Correspondingly, the abuse of that power is rampant.
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Male 3,894
I couldn`t see his point behind this gigantic strawman.




It`s not that the guns themselves kill people, it`s that they make it really easy for unstable folks to do so.
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Male 4
The definition of ignorance...
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Male 2,229
I hope his gun gets stolen next time he tries that.
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Male 4,431
5Cats, I wasn`t commenting on homicide rates, as they`ve stayed pretty constant, I` was commenting on gun death. And, regardless, when you`re talking HALF the murder rate or lower, that`s still extremely significant. But, I know, real stats and actual death is irrelevant so long as we all have the right to spooge on our own guns. Got it.
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Male 156
Guns don`t kill people Zerglings do...
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Male 12,138
So, let`s boil it down. Here`s the (very simplified) series: Nuclear Missile > WMDs > Assault Weapon > Handgun/Hunting Rifle > Hammer > Spoon > Rock.

Yes, any one of those could kill a person, but where do you draw the line? To me, you draw the line on design.

Hunting rifles are made for hunting game and feeding your family, handguns are made for personal protection, hammers are made for hammering nails, spoons are made for eating food, and rocks are just f*cking rocks. When the object being discussed is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO KILL AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE IN THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME POSSIBLE, then maybe you should watch that. Just an idea.

Sorry for shouting. I rest my case.
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Male 12,138
Oh for f*ck sake.

Yeah, we get it. Guns don`t kill people, people kill people, a gun is an inanimate object, etc. We got all that. Let`s go through this again, for the mentally slow.

Let`s break it down to extremes. Neither do Nuclear Motherf*cking Missiles, they`re inanimate objects too, they can`t kill anyone unless someone presses the big red button, yet we have pretty strict controls on those. On the other hand, I could kill a guy with a rock, or a spoon, or a hammer, or a car, I guess. No-one`s suggesting that it`s a good idea to to ban rocks.
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Male 390
Here is hoping for a ban on ignorant arguments.
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Female 1,803
Well, a-bombs and anthrax don`t kill people on their own, either. Maybe everyone should have those, too. You know, just in case the gov comes for you.
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Male 8,699
srximus-"scary than a crazy person entering a school with an assault rifle."

That can`t possibly happen. For one thing, it`s against the law. For another, schools are gun free zones.

Corydoras87-"guns make it very easy, almost enticing"

Yes, it`s a good thing YOU don`t have access...but your hang-ups have no effect on my rights.

@Langer

He did not say it was loaded, nor did he say it `out in the open`.

He `gave it` shells...could have set it on the chair next to it.

He also said he `placed it on the front porch`. Many people have enclosed porches, which would explain the later line `it had not rolled outside`.
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Male 761
Though I grew up with guns and absolutely no problem with them, this isn`t the issue that people fight over.

It`s really down to just the fact that idiots can have guns, irrational people can have guns, people who lose control when they get angry can have guns.

That`s the reason people don`t want guns. It`s the opportunistic aspect of a device that is made to do harm.
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Male 41,153
@ferdyfred:



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Male 41,153
"Are their rates even a tenth what they are here in the States. No."
@SmagBoy: You`re correct! But NOT the way you intended to be :-P
Wiki Says: Those countries have a homicide rate of 1/2 to 1/5 of the USA, but NOT 1/10th!

ALSO: Consider this:



There`s a HUGE demographic skew between whites & non-whites. Also black who live in HIGH gun law places? Die far more often...
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Male 313
Liberals make me laugh. I like nothing better than knee-jerk legislation.
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Male 2,528
How does he know what happened while he was gone? HE WAS GONE!!!
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Male 425
@ktyspix

particularly those who want to kill me. You use them as a last ditch effort, when there are no other options left. don`t you understand?
guns don`t kill people; Distanced sociopaths like you do.
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Male 427
that dude is surely a retard
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Male 1,471
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Male 621
Sure guns themselves don`t actually kill people, that`s just silly. But they sure do make it easier for dangerous individuals to kill people.
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Male 566
Guns don`t kill people. Idiots with guns do, idiots like Donald K. Martin.
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Male 399
So is leaving a shotgun out in the open & unattended good firearm practice now?
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Male 3,286
@uunxx- no, but shotguns are a dandy tool to make a hole in your garden soil for plantings.
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Male 399
So is leaving a loaded shotgun out in the open & unattended good firearm practice now?
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Female 1,008
malikymoo,

Sometimes people say "pick up" to mean "tidy up." So a mother may say to her child, "You won`t be watching any TV until you pick up your room!" In this case I think he means that he had hired the boy to rake his yard.

I think it`s a midwestern thing.
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Male 120
Ok, if killing people is misuse of guns, then what is their proper use? Do people usually use them as flower pots?
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Male 13,630
curiousboy

But ppl with spoons have a much harder time killing as the ppl with a gun. That`s a fact.
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never heard of the semi automatic spoon?
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Male 13,630
Much rather approach a mad man with a spoon than a shotgun
kinda covers that
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Male 642
malikymoo, you don`t watch cartoons? when a guy is sweeping up in the street and wants to get rid of the pile of dirt, he just picks up the yard (or lawn) and sweeps it under..
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Male 97
But ppl with spoons have a much harder time killing as the ppl with a gun. That`s a fact.
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Female 2,026
what does picked up my yard mean?
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Male 642
stupid argument.. of course guns are not alive, nobody in their right mind would argue that a gun actually walks out to kill people..

the argument for "guns kill people" is that guns make it very easy, almost enticing, to kill people, after all it`s only the pull of a trigger, a baby could do it. the only way to kill a person more easily is if they are in a different room and all you need is press the red button or flick the switch to the electric chair.
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Male 4,431
Hey, great logic there, Mr. Donald K. Martin. You`re super clever! Now, let me ask you this: if someone *is* wanting to kill someone, or does get a mind to, or, even just gets angry and aggressive, and he`s in possession of a spoon, might that change the way comports himself? Not likely. But what a your lazy shotgun? It`s not the guns, it`s their pervasive availability that does it. Of course, you don`t have to ask me, ask Australia. Or Germany. Or the UK. Or Japan. Or China. Do they have murder there? Yes. Do they have people who go off with spoons (or knives)? Yes. Are their rates even a tenth what they are here in the States. No. It`s not your gun that`s lazy, it`s your mind.
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Male 207
Yet, a crazy person entering a school with a spoon i s far less scary than a crazy person entering a school with an assault rifle.
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Female 856
But there is no spoon.
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Male 938
Link: Guns Don`t Kill People [Pic] [Rate Link] - Spoons Kill People.
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