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    Smutleybutt Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 10:23 am
    Link: God, Giraffes & Genocide - Another view on the incredulous story of Noah`s Ark.
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:06 am
    Oh look, another video from the biased atheist.. still looking to reason away the living God. This time holding on to Genesis and the story of Noah`s Ark and calming it to be fallible, and doing everything possible to ridicule God and the Holy Bible as much as possible.

    How convenient.

    Well, if they really were `thinking` rather than `biasing` they would have come to understand that Genesis has a lot of metaphorical stories, which help those seeking the path of faith to unveil secret understandings of faith in God. But what else would we expect from the biased? I`m reminded of the verse where peole of this day would be professing themselves to be wise, but bbecame fools.

    Sad indeed.

    Faith in God is not going away any time soon, so they should just learn to live with it.
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:10 am
    Yep, that pretty much sums it up... but if you`ll just have FAITH none of those pesky facts will mean a thing!
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:11 am
    Besides, everyone knows love is the most efficient way, and the way of the future. Since God is the author of love, you can be sure He`s going to be a part of it.
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:16 am
    @TheGuySmiley
    Wait, what? I thought the Bible is the literal Word of God? How exactly do you decide which parts to take literally and which parts you deem to pick and choose as metaphorical?

    Faith in an unproved, unprovable, invisible, all-knowing entity in the sky over faith in observable, repeatable science... and you call US the fools? LMAO
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:17 am
    There`s no explanation necessary. God did it.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:21 am
    Theguysmiley, people that question gods existence are not going away. You should just learn to live with it.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:26 am
    @TheGuySmiley. i think you hit the nail on the head when you said that genesis has a lot of metaphorical stories. you understand what most christians apparently do not, i.e., that the bible was written as a suggested guide plan and not a hard and fast unchangeable blueprint.
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:34 am
    Kegomatix: i do live with it, but i`m not so insecure that i need to make biased videos about putting down atheists faith.
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:43 am
    chalket: you study it, that`s how you know. But i think i already know where you stand on it if our previous correspondence is any thing to go by. But imho it`s not going to gain anyone any credibility if they live by bias and prejudice, preferring to mock and scorn over loving. Without love it`s like a broken clanging bell compared to an orchestra symphony.
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    Wayoldman Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    As the bible states man was given free will. Meaning man thinks for himself and he can freely believe in God or not. it also states Man chooses to refuse God. God doesn`t refuse man at anytime.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2013 at 12:02 pm
    TheGuySmiley, you talk about not living "by bias and prejudice, preferring to mock and scorn over loving." So, I ask you, why are so many Christians/Republicans so hell bent on being biased and prejudiced against gay people? And I don`t reckon it`s because it says so in the Bible because, as we`ve already determined, the Bible has "has a lot of metaphorical stories". So, I reckon it takes someone who`s pretty darned biased to attempt to use the Bible as a justification, ever, for making laws that govern OTHER people.

    In case you`re wondering, it`s BS like *that* that makes people want to give Christians a hard time. It`s not just done out of fun. You don`t get that, do you, that you guys freakin` started it?! You know, with the women and the Native Americans, and the blacks and the gays and Muslims, etc....
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    mykunter Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    "...videos about putting down atheists faith."

    Atheists faith? What? You are very confused.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm
    Ooo, the butthurt from the bible-thumpers is strong today!

    Too bad your mythology is so full of holes.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    "Genesis has a lot of metaphorical stories"
    Ohhhhhhhh! "metphorical". I see
    It`s "metaphorical" when it`s inaccurate and impossible.
    But when it`s opressive to women or bashing gays it is "literal truth". Tell you what, if you can find one of those Unicorns the bible mentions you let me know and we`ll talk again.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    Smileybutt:
    I think the word you`re looking for is "incredible," not "incredulous."
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 1:16 pm
    Gerry1of1, too easy:

    Narwhals


    Indian rhinoceros
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 1:47 pm
    SmagBoy1: It`s kind of silly to think that one bad apple spoils the whole bunch. Just because a few people are saying those things is not an indication that all of them are. What you`re saying would be on par with someone thinking that all atheists are evil because atheist regimes killed the most people in the 20th century. It`s silly. there are bad apples in groups everywhere, this vid post is a good point on the flipside of your argument.

    But the bottom line is it`s not our place to judge.. a good example of this can be found in the verses about a woman who was caught in adultery, and how Jesus treated her. He told us to love one another, and that`s the way to be. I bet if you looked you`ll find many people who trust in God and do not judge but love instead.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2013 at 1:59 pm
    Oh lord....
    another one of those endless religion battles
    follows life these eternal arguments
    Im off to find bewbs
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    So Theguysmiley is into preaching LOVE and FAITH now? What happened to....??

    DEATHTOTHEPRESIDENCY! DEATHTOTHEPRESIDENCY!
    DEATHTOTHEPRESIDENCY! DEATHTOTHEPRESIDENCY!
    DEATHTOTHEPRESIDENCY! DEATHTOTHEPRESIDENCY!....


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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2013 at 2:21 pm
    The bible is simply a collection of fairy tales that deliver a moral message, useful enough if you lacked a decent upbringing and need moral guidance, but some of the tales are hateful and twisted. Religion should always be remembered as the first signs of humans starting to really think about the world around them and admired for what it is, but as a species we do need to move on and stop using it as a crutch.
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm
    TheGuySmiley, what is sad is that you think the Bible has a lot of metaphorical stories because you have been brought up in a world of science. Science that you embrace when it gives you a long, healthy, prosperous existence, but shun when it contradicts your delusions.

    Also, I don`t know how anyone reads the Bible and concludes that God is the author of love when He is the most vile, petty, and vindictive character in the whole book.
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    BDT1981 Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 5:08 pm
    look, Noah`s ark has been worked over to death by atheist. If literalist haven`t seen fit to leave the faith yet, they are not going to because you say the Ark would have been impossible. Please just let the stupid people believe their stupid thoughts.

    Secondly, why does nobody ask what became of all the plants on the earth?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 5:12 pm
    Noah`s story IS very odd, but deliberately mis-quoting the Bible is a fools game. Often played by atheists!

    Gen 6:20-21 It says the animals will come TO Noah, and that Noah should gather the required food. It`s not "a mystery" it says so right there!

    Gen 7:2 7 pairs of "clean animals" DUH! That is those OK`d by the laws of Kosher. This is not a "contradiction" it`s talking about entirely different animals.

    Gen 7:4 Noah did build the Ark, gather the food and all the animals came IN A WEEK! (just 7 days) but this "enlightened video" skips over that part...

    Genesis 8:7 First Noah sent out a RAVEN! At least TRY to get the story right! He sent the Dove out THREE TIMES!

    Gen 8:20 THEN! Then Noah takes 1 of each of those "clean" animals and birds (of which there were 14 each) and SACRIFICES THEM! And God likes the burning smell!

    WHY make things up when the truth is weird enough as is?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 5:20 pm
    God doesn`t refuse man at anytime.
    @WayOldMan: Well, not AFTER the Noah story! Eh? Since God decided to kill ALL of humanity ("refuse him") but kept Noah. Then He vowed never to do that again because Noah makes a "clean sacrifice" on an alter... Good thing there were more than 2 of each! LOLZ!!!

    btw: Noah`s wife is mentioned (iirc) 14 times but her name is never given...
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 5:28 pm
    And what is funny, 5Cats, is that even though you can admit how odd and weird it is, you still accept it as fact. The truth doesn`t sound any more plausible. The whole thing just looks like a childrens book... A very sick, twisted childrens book.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 5:34 pm
    BTW @Gerry1: That`s what happened to the unicorns.

    Noah: I sacrifice this duck, which is Kosher and clean in the eyes of God!
    Duck: Quack! *chop!*
    Noah: I sacrifice this unicorn, which is Kosher and clean in the eyes of God!
    Unicorn: Neigh! *chop!*
    Noah`s Wife: NOAH! You old idiot! Unicorns aren`t Kosher! There was only TWO of them!
    Noah: Oops...

    @Kegomatix: I don`t believe that stuff! I`m a Deist! I`m just saying, if you`re going to make fun of something? At least use the FACTS & not make poop up!
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 8:45 pm
    NottaSpy: I think you have me mistaken for someone else. I`ve already posted that religion without science is blind, and science without religion is lame; they`ll both co-exist and complement one another. But at any rate, about your opinion of God, well let me ask you this: if someone was saying someone or something was a certain way without actually knowing them or it, wouldn`t it be delusional for them to be judging them or it? The good book can teach you to know God and grow your faith in Him, but if you don`t want to use the scriptures to find God but use it to judge God, well thats your choice. Personally, I like to read between the lines and find the hidden lessons.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    @ TheGuySmiley - those aren`t unicorns.
    I know `cause I have pictures of unicorns all over my bedroom.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    This makes me wonder if giraffes can swim.
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    darkmagic14n Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 8:55 pm
    not going to read the comments, but this is one of the few stories from the Bible that blow my mind. Its not `recorded` geologically, but the flood is written about in EVERY ancient text all over the world (not just abrahamic religions).

    protip:
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 8:58 pm
    Gerry1of1: if you`re referring to something like this:

    i dont know what to tell you, because the unicorn mentioned in the Bible was a real animal, not an imaginary creature. To my knowledge the above picture is based on an imaginary creature, and we do not know what the unicorn is exactly. God points out in Job 39:9–12 that the unicorn, “whose strength is great,” is useless for agricultural work, refusing to serve man or “harrow (plow) the valley.” The Bible describes unicorns skipping like calves (Psalm 29:6), traveling like bullocks, and bleeding when they die (Isaiah 34:7).

    As the previous pics i showed you display, a single-horned feature is not uncommon on God’s menu for animal design, but what this unicorn looked like is anyone`s guess.
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2013 at 9:06 pm
    Gerry: In addition to that, the absence of a unicorn in the modern world shouldn`t be reason to doubt its past existence. For example, the dodo bird does not exist today, but we do not doubt that it existed in the past.

    Eighteenth century reports from southern Africa described rock drawings and eyewitness accounts of fierce, single-horned, equine-like animals. Also, the elasmotherium, is said to be an extinct giant rhinoceros with one single horn. The biblical unicorn could have been an aurochs (a kind of wild ox known to the Assyrians as rimu). We just don`t know.

    But, the Bible is describing a real animal. The unicorn mentioned in the Bible was a powerful animal possessing one or two strong horns. Maybe or maybe not the fantasy animal that has been popularized in movies and books. But whatever it was, it is now likely extinct like many other animals. Perhaps men hunted them for being so powerful? Who knows...
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2013 at 9:41 pm
    darkmagic: "Its not `recorded` geologically..."

    Actually yes there have been several very large floods recorded geologically.

    One example: The Mediterranean Sea was once a dry salty lake bed. Then the Straits of Gibraltar opened to the Atlantic Ocean and flooded in with catastrophic force.

    Long after that, about 7,500 years ago, the water levels in Mediterranean Sea then rose enough to break through and flood into what we now call the Black Sea.

    There are other examples as well, like how the Great Lakes flooded and spilled over to form other lakes.
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2013 at 9:43 pm
    TheGuySmiley, faith is a belief without proof. Delusion is belief in the face of evidence to the contrary. You have shown to persist in your faith in the face of evidence to the contrary. Since the evidence that Christianity is a false belief is overwhelming, that makes you deluded.

    Since you believe that you have faith, that means you have no evidence, by definition. So to call me deluded, when I have evidence for my beliefs, is just childish.

    As for science and religion co-existing, it may be possible, but that religion wouldn`t be any of the Abrahamic religions. What is more likely is that you science/religion catch phrase is nothing more than a catch phrase that you use to console yourself in your delusions.
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    handimanner Male 60-69
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    March 3, 2013 at 11:18 pm
    Several histories from American Indian to The Tales of Gilgamesh have deluge stories and probably document an asteroid strike (either Yucatan or Iceland as the strike point). The "Flood" was actually a tsunami. The myth of Noah`s ark is a rationality that evil caused it, like the Baptists do with Katrina, gay sex, etc.
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2013 at 3:08 am
    NottaSpy: sorry you don`t really seem to have a clear understanding of what faith in God is. I really doubt you have overwhelming evidence that Christianity is a false belief. In fact, it may be only your belief. But mixed with your persistence, it is only leading me to believe you are what you are judging others to be. Have a good day.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2013 at 5:05 am
    The story of Noah is really just the Egyptian Creation Story (you have back up to page 73).
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2013 at 6:06 am
    Actually yes there have been several very large floods recorded geologically.
    But nothing on the scale of the flood mentioned in Noah`s story. Where would the millions of gallons of water have gone, I wonder?

    Gen 6:20-21 It says the animals will come TO Noah, and that Noah should gather the required food. It`s not "a mystery" it says so right there!
    Which still doesn`t explain how animals from different continents got there in 7 days, it`s not like this is The Ring or something. Also the argument about bamboo still stands.

    But whatever, let`s keep the fight going!

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    sweetrebelnc Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2013 at 8:01 am
    Actually Markust123, The story of Noah can be traced back to the story of Utnapishtam, from the epic of Gilgamesh. It is almost exactly the same story, only substitute the Judeo-Christian God for the Mesopotamian Pantheon.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 4, 2013 at 8:10 am
    @patchy: How did two kangaroos hop from Australia to the Middle East? I didn`t say the story was rational, only that the criticism was misplaced.

    This Is How Noah Got The Bamboo! and you know it!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2013 at 8:15 am
    @5cats: But it`s not a matter of where he grips it, it`s a simple question of weight ratios. A 1-ounce bird cannot carry a 1-lb coconut!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2013 at 1:32 pm
    "Actually Markust123, The story of Noah can be traced back to the story of Utnapishtam, from the epic of Gilgamesh. It is almost exactly the same story, only substitute the Judeo-Christian God for the Mesopotamian Pantheon."

    The author also talks about how that story was worked into the Noah story also (starting on page 79). It`s a pretty interesting book. I wouldn`t recommend it to anyone who wants to keep their faith though.
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    darkmagic14n Male 18-29
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    March 5, 2013 at 7:35 pm
    But nothing on the scale of the flood mentioned in Noah`s story. Where would the millions of gallons of water have gone, I wonder?

    remember when egyptians considered what they knew as the whole world? how about when the americas didn`t exist 500 years ago? you`re confusing what WE know as the whole world, and what someone 2000 years ago would`ve considered the whole world.
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    kinky_afr0 Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2013 at 4:03 pm
    actually......stupid americans

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