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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 9, 2013 at 1:46 pm
    Link: Another Genius Legislator From Colorado - State legislator Claire Levy (D) accidentally tells the truth about `gun control.`
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 9, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    So many facepalms. So little time.


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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    March 9, 2013 at 2:39 pm
    I would like to propose a bill that creates a new holiday; Pop a politician day- a day each year that it`s legal to shoot politicians.
    I don`t know if this will increase or reduce gun violence, but well... you know.
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    March 9, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    It wasn`t an accident, she said violent crime not gun crime. Most violent crimes don`t involve guns.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    March 9, 2013 at 3:24 pm
    http://tinyurl.com/9w9tqyt

    She killed the bill herself. While it would`ve been interesting to try and find out what the purpose of the bill was, if not to attempt to reduce violence, the point is moot. It`s gone.

    The bills that were killed, were done so rightly. Those that passed onto the Senate, are all bills worth some rational consideration.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    March 9, 2013 at 3:36 pm
    The whole point of the legislation isn`t to reduce any crime. It`s to make people on campus feel better. I heard it right from their very mouths.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    March 9, 2013 at 3:47 pm
    What, then, IS the purpose of the bill?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 9, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    It`s rediculous to have a law, then limit where the law works and where it doesn`t. Not at a college which is full of adults, then why not make all Malls gun-free zones? That didn`t work out too well for Congresswoman Gabby Giffords. She was shot in the head at a Mall that was a gun-free zone.

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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 9, 2013 at 4:12 pm
    This clueless bint is making laws in the USA? Oy!

    It`s honest of her to admit there`s NO relationship between "gun free zones" and violent crime. Of course she still wants them... idiots.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 9, 2013 at 6:42 pm
    I`m tired of all these knee jerk gun reactions and these stupid partisan posts. Both sides are idiots. The anti-gun people are acting without thinking and the pro-gun people are doing the same with arming our teachers. F*cking knee jerks.
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    peakingo Male 30-39
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    March 9, 2013 at 6:58 pm
    I personally would love to ban that GOD DAMN STUPID SONG!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 9, 2013 at 8:00 pm
    Gun free zones = Unarmed victim zones.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 9, 2013 at 9:20 pm
    Gun free zones = Unarmed victim zones.

    Jesus Harold Christ Crakrjak, really?

    So your solution to reducing the number of gun death victims is to give everyone a gun? Here`s a radical and diametrically opposite idea. Let`s reduce the number of guns.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 9, 2013 at 9:21 pm
    Look, I grew up in Belfast, Northern Ireland, at the height of the Troubles, a legitimate f*cking warzone. Yet I`ve had a gun pointed in my face exactly twice, both times in the US, one of which by a cop while reaching for my drivers licence (which he asked me for). One wrong move and I`d have been headless.

    More guns is the answer? I suggest not. Call me a bleeding-heart liberal, libtard, leftist, whatever (heard it all before). I don`t care.

    No offense at all meant to my American friends, but I felt safer in Northern Ireland than I do visiting the US. And no, before you ask, the prospect of the random guy at the next table having a concealed firearm when sh*t goes all Tarantino gives me no comfort.
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    March 9, 2013 at 10:40 pm
    Thanks davymid, it`s good to know that there are a few sane people still left.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 9, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Davymid, exactly! You`ve had guns pointed at your head in the US because the bad guys have the guns {the cops and others} so the only sane recourse is to arm the victims. At least give them a chance to defend themselves against rapists and robbers.
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    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2013 at 1:32 am
    @Gerry1of1 Let`s give every country nuclear weapons, that way we`ll have no war or conflict because victim countries have a way to fight back :D
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    March 10, 2013 at 7:07 am
    Gerry- Crakr reckons everyone should have a gun. Never seen a handgun. Shotguns yes, because I live rurally. I know a couple of people who own a rifle for deer but those are always locked up if not in use. Handgun- never set eyes on one- and i have lived and travelled all over the UK. Seen holsters when abroad- but never once a gun in anyones hands. I feel safe like that because if there is no gun to attack me you would have to come up close to get hold of me- then I could fight.
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2013 at 8:44 am
    Conservatism: The idea that allowing two people of the same sex to get married is somehow more threatening to our existance than an object specifically designed to destroy life.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 10, 2013 at 8:48 am
    This is what the "gun control" movement is all about: Grabbing Your Guns!
    They don`t want YOU to have that right any longer, so they`ll pass enough laws to (eventually) take ALL your guns away! Just like Australia.
    Of course criminals will still have guns, as will the Police...

    Don`t listen to the lies: It`s not about "safety" it`s not about "the children" it`s ALL about taking legal guns OUT of the hands of legal owners.

    Oh, and spending 100s of BILLIONS of "taxpayer dollars" doing exactly nothing. That too.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2013 at 9:00 am
    @RobSwindol

    Liberalism: The idea that allowing two people of the same sex to get married is somehow more important to our existence than the Second Amendment.

    See? We can all do it - doesn`t make it any more correct.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2013 at 9:05 am
    @davymid

    Let`s reduce the number of guns.This is a red herring, though. Across the other 23 first world nations (excluding the US as an outlier), there is actually an obvious inverse trend between guns per capita and homicides per capita.

    Stated plainly, on the average, first world countries with more guns per capita enjoy less homicides per capita.

    So what`s my point then? It`s that gun ownership rates are not the cause of the problems. Most likely, there is another factor at work in the US that needs to be examined. In my opinion, it`s culture.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 10, 2013 at 11:04 am
    Let`s reduce the number of guns.
    A FINE idea @davymid! First lets remove the "already illegal" guns. Then take the guns away from criminals, who already illegally own them.

    AFTER you get the guns which are CURRENTLY illegal? THEN you can think about taking them away from law-abiding citizens.

    No need to pass "new laws" at all: just enforce the ones which currenly exist...

    Passing "laws" which do absolutely nothing? Isn`t an intelligent option...
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm
    Again both extremes are idiots. Here is a town where the mayor set a law three years ago that requires the head of every household to own some kind of weapon (Criminals and the mentally ill are exempt). Why the need for the law? "There`s a big push out there to take away our right to keep and bear arms." So the Mayor`s whole argument is based on fear and lies. Sounds about right in line with the arguments on both sides.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2013 at 9:37 pm
    Liberalism: The idea that allowing two people of the same sex to get married is somehow more important to our existence than the Second Amendment.
    See, this is where it get`s funky. With the ultimate respect I can possibly offer, I`m not American. I don`t give a f*ck about your Second Amendment, it wasn`t written by Jesus or God or Moses. It`s not sacrosanct. I`m a world citizen who travels to the US a lot. I would just like to please not get shot in the face if at all possible. If you don`t have a gun, and I don`t have a gun, then it`s hard for either one of us to shoot me in the face. That makes me happy.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2013 at 10:13 pm
    "If you don`t have a gun, and I don`t have a gun, then it`s hard for either one of us to shoot me in the face."

    BUT... If I don`t have a gun, and you don`t have a gun, Tyrone (or Chaz if you think that`s racist) from across the tracks has one. He also has a rap sheet a mile long and has no regard for the law. He`s gonna shoot us both in the face, because he knows we won`t and can`t do anything about it.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2013 at 5:36 am
    If you don`t have a gun, and I don`t have a gun, then it`s hard for either one of us to shoot me in the face. That makes me happy.

    How`d that work out for N. Ireland again???
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2013 at 7:19 am
    @davymid

    it wasn`t written by Jesus or God or Moses
    Of course not. However, it is an Amendment in the Bill of Rights. To attempt to alter it should be discussed with the same concern and distrust as any other - such as the right to free speech. If you are not willing to discuss the alteration of the First Amendment, then you should also be unwilling to alter the Second.

    I would just like to please not get shot in the face
    Considering that, on any day, on the average, you have a 0.0000088% chance of being murdered with a gun in the US - I think you`ll be fine.

    See, the argument comes down to viewpoints. In your suggestion, you mitigate statistics by sacrificing individuals. The logic is that you can limit the amount of damage an attacker can do. However, this approach does not consider the person being attacked and whether or not it is fair to disarm them.

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    mikesex Male 60-69
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    March 11, 2013 at 7:33 am
    @McGovern1981

    Northern Ireland is a terrorist issue. Different thing entirely.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2013 at 7:48 am
    @mikesex

    SO gun laws don`t apply to terrorists then??? So that`s how they got those ebil guns and explosives!!!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 11, 2013 at 9:33 am
    iirc: The IRA used many "home built" guns too.

    Fact remains: it`s a "race-based gang issue". Get rid of "The War On Drugs" and 80% of it would vanish.
    Same for those huge murder rates in Central and South America. Much of it is driven by "drug cartels" who are makin zillions shipping drugs to... THE USA!

    And since the Democrats are sending arms to the Cartels? While imposing sanctions on certain legitimate governments? I doubt this will change any time soon...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 11, 2013 at 9:36 am
    @MacGovern: It`s true, the British are polite like that, eh?

    Customer: I`d like to buy a gun please.
    Salesman: You must have a liscence, permit, background check, 30 day wait period...
    C: Oh no! I`m a terrorist, and plan to shoot the coppers tomorrow!
    S: Oh well then! 25 pounds & fifty, here you go! Cheeri-o!
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2013 at 11:32 pm
    How`d that work out for N. Ireland again???
    Oi, dipsh*t, McGovern. Talking to you. You couldn`t get guns in Northern Ireland, so back in the day all the guns were shipped in from Libya. Thankfully most of them were caught at the border, whether by boat or airplane. How much more of a clusterf*ck warzone would it have been if anyone of age and of sound mind (which let`s face it, is the vast majority of the population) would have been allowed to buy guns at the local equivalent of Walmart, and swap them around like Christmas Crackers?

    Making guns hard to obtain is not a bad idea.

    Also, don`t tell me about Northern Ireland. Ask me about it and I`ll tell you what it was like, but don`t pretend to tell me about it.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2013 at 5:59 am
    Hard to say mabey it would`ve gotten the UK out of where they don`t belong solving the problem for good.

    Also, don`t tell me about the US. Ask me about it and I`ll tell you what it is like, but don`t pretend to tell me about it.
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    mikesex Male 60-69
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    March 12, 2013 at 12:14 pm
    Oh, McGovern 1981, how little you understand.
    Majority of population in NI Protestant - want to be British (hence the Partition).
    Recent poll showed slightly over half the Catholics in NI wanted to remain in Britain. Even assuming over estimate by a factor of 2, still real majority of NI population want to remain part of the UK.
    Referendum of Eire population in the run up to the Good Friday agreement rescinded all claims of the Republic to NI by close to 80% majority.
    During my own travels (my family originate there) round the Republic I couldn`t find one Irish citizen who wanted unification with the North.
    "We don`t want a million angry feckin` Protestants dumped on us!"
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2013 at 1:40 pm
    How`d that work out for N. Ireland again???
    Oi, dipsh*t, McGovern. Talking to you. You couldn`t get guns in Northern Ireland, so back in the day all the guns were shipped in from Libya. Thankfully most of them were caught at the border, whether by boat or airplane. How much more of a clusterf*ck warzone would it have been if anyone of age and of sound mind (which let`s face it, is the vast majority of the population) would have been allowed to buy guns at the local equivalent of Walmart, and swap them around like Christmas Crackers?

    Making guns hard to obtain is not a bad idea.

    Also, don`t tell me about Northern Ireland. Ask me about it and I`ll tell you what it was like, but don`t pretend to tell me about it.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    "We don`t want a million angry feckin` Protestants dumped on us!"

    That`s because they belong in the UK. Afterall it`s were they came from. Close to 100 years of conflict which your blessed royalty could`ve ended from the start by simply leaving. Must be a conspiricyzzz!!! NI HAZ DA OIL DEPOZITZ!!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2013 at 1:51 pm
    Oi, dipsh*tdavy, don`t tell me about the US. Ask me about it and I`ll tell you what it is like, but don`t pretend to tell me about it. Otherwise it`s all fair game.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2013 at 1:54 pm
    During my own travels (my family originate there) round the Republic I couldn`t find one Irish citizen who wanted unification with the North.

    Yes and I`m sure the ones that want too talk freely about it because that wouldn`t potentially compromise their saftey/freedom.
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    mikesex Male 60-69
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    March 13, 2013 at 5:05 am
    Fascinating how McGovern`s certainty stems from total ignorance of the subject.
    I`m betting I`ve spent more time in the States than McG has in Europe; might even be true of Davy.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 13, 2013 at 5:53 am
    fascinating how McGovern`s certainty stems from total ignorance of the subject.

    Much like your knowledge of firearm laws in the US.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 13, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    In the UK the only place police officers can carry a firearm is NI........
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    An-egg Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2013 at 8:44 am
    Someone`s gonna get fired for telling the truth.
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    mikesex Male 60-69
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    March 15, 2013 at 5:01 am
    McGovern, (sigh), UK police have armed response units all over the country. I put in a 999 call about six months ago, within 10 minutes two officers responded, flak jackets, side arms and automatic weapons.
    Airports are regularly openly patrolled by officers similarly equipped.
    Re an early comment, if you think Eire citizens are scared of the IRA you really do not understand the Irish.

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