When The F.B.I. Knocks On Your Door

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 4 years ago Misc

This video has been removed from YouTube because of a privacy complaint made by the FBI. Is this how they protect us?
There are 106 comments:
Male 560
Your job, your marital status your family situation amounts to nothing. Look at the range of people who were involved in the looting and rioting in London at the student `protests` or London Riots.

She`s being unduly difficult. They are just asking some general questions about the movement she`s part of. If she knows about anyone else within int he movement who may be planning to do anything at the protest(s) Something I don`t see why she won`t answer if anyone does damage property or hurt anyone then they do her movement more harm then good. And let`s be honest her statements at the end obviously she has a grudge against America`s support for Israel. Does that movement not make you a slightly more likely then the average citizen to inflict some revenge?

Why does no one ever raise questions or complain about North Korea. A country where if you get sent to one of the gulag villages you and your family are there for 3 generations... Read escape from camp 14.
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Male 36,469
[quote]Cameras in your living room: "if you got nothing to hide" why not?[/quote]
@CreamK: I totally, 100% agree with you! Give away your rights and you`ll soon have nothing. No freedom, no security, nothing.

PK Dick wrote a few stories based on a machine that sits in your living room and monitors your thoughts. (Often called a "Swibble") If it detects anti-government thinking? It phones the police & reports you. If it detects your neighbors don`t have a Swibble? It reports THEM too! Every houshold in America (and presumably the world) has one. People live in constant terror, it`s really scary.

@MacGuffin: Excellent advice. Be polite but say NOTHING.
We all miss @Opiebreath! But she`s in a better place now... reality! :-) lolz!
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Male 3,407
why is this woman acting like a visit and a few questions from a couple of plain clothed federal agents is violation of her rights? just because it is her right to remain silent, doesnt mean it is at all the smartest thing to do. she should have just said no that she was unaware of any plans to cause destruction or harm, unless she didnt want to lie. just because she is a mother and a nurse doesnt mean she is innocent.
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Male 1,106
I vehemently disagree with her cause and what she`s protesting (because she`s so very wrong), but she`s right about a few things. NEVER give them any information without a lawyer, and NEVER let them in your house without a warrant. Even if you`re not sure why they are talking to you.
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Female 2,602
God I miss reading Opiebreath`s comments on this site. She was a member here before I started participating, but her posts were always funny, even (and perhaps especially) her negative/snipey comments had a certain zing. "When I give a crap about you or what you think , I`ll get back to you" just doesn`t come close to her classic one-liners.
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Male 2,143
lsdmoe- When I give a crap about you or what you think , I`ll get back to you.
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Male 219
I love how the defense for stupid people that get indignant with the police is the Duane video. Brilliant video, which has no bearing on this at all. This woman didn`t listen to James Duane at all, she blabbered on and on, got snide and condescending, and went out of her way to look like a whack-job.

Duane is brilliant, but if you`re going to quote him, then listen to him...shut your mouth, call a lawyer and let him speak to the FBI for you.
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Male 417
I hate idiots like this.
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Male 2,514
Rule #36: Act as stupid as possible while repeating everything they ask you, then follow that up by verbalizing assumptions you`ve made regarding their presence.

Rule #37: Keep referring to the fact that having a family makes you completely incapable of any wrongdoing.
(I`ll be using this one the next time a cop pulls me over for speeding)

Rule #38: Be as condescending as possible. They may hate you tonight, but they`ll respect you in the morning.

Rule #39: Keep laughing at them. This shows that you are extremely nervous and probably have something to hide, then proceed to "plead silence", which will make them think you have even MORE to hide. This tactic will surely cause them to cease any and all investigations.

Rule #39: Be a moron.
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Female 2,602
Don`t take it from me, take it from James Duane, Professor of Law : don`t talk to cops.

And if you`re still dumb enough to think that you`ve nothing to fear just because you think you have nothing to hide after watching that video, by all means blabber away. At least you`ll have a really funny story to tell the guys/gals in that bullpen when you`re doing your time.
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Male 1,421
"If she has nothing to hide" is not an excuse to come asking questions about anything really. It`s a fact that this kind of thought process will allow almost all of your civil liberties taken away. There really is no limit on what kind of information and surveillance can be done in pretext "if you got nothing to hide". Cameras in your living room: "if you got nothing to hide" why not? Why can`t the authorities come searching your house once a week "if you got nothing to hide?" To monitor your browsing, "if you got nothing to hide?" Where does it stop?

It`s about freedom of thought, freedom to express those thoughts and privacy in general. But then again USA is a dystopia already, you guys just haven`t realized it yet.
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Male 1,421
"If she has nothing to hide" is not an excuse to come asking questions about anything really. It`s a fact that this kind of thought process will allow almost all of your civil liberties taken away. There really is no limit on what kind of information and surveillance can be done in pretext "if you got nothing to hide". Cameras in your living room: "if you got nothing to hide" why not? Why can`t the authorities come searching your house once a week "if you got nothing to hide?" To monitor your browsing, "if you got nothing to hide?" Where does it stop?

It`s about freedom of thought, freedom to express those thoughts and privacy in general. But then again USA is a dystopia already, you guys just haven`t realized it yet.
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Male 11,740
She is a f*cking moron. She`s an obnoxious bitch and she was asking for trouble. If she had nothing to hide there was no reason to record this and act like she was being attacked. They were polite, calm, and professional. She could have easily answered the questions and they would have left. Instead she had to turn in into something. The whole mother of 5/RN thing was a big crock of $hit too. Because there`s no way that a nurse and/or parent could ever commit a crime. She`s looney and probably IS someone who needs to be watched, closely.
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Female 4,349
so the FBI just come around and ask you questions if you protest in amerika? 1984 anyone? f ucking thought police.
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Male 7,378
The FBI hounds the protesters and leaves the criminals be.
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Male 573
The FBI wasting their time again, meanwhile some guy with a "water the tree of liberty" t-shirt is looking to hire a Ryder van.
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Male 10
Just your friendly neighbor Bankster army stopping by to say `hello`
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Male 554
mother of 5.. who gives a damn.

she should have just kept the door closed... but then again some people have something to prove
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Male 1,063
This ladies and idiot, either shut the door or just answer the questions, not really a big deal. She must be bored.
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Male 412
I`m a pretty `liberal` leaning person. I probably support this woman`s other views - e.g., relating to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But this video is just silly. These FBI representatives were just given a job to go out to this woman`s house. They weren`t overly insistent and certainly not aggressive. She decided to make a mockery of a situation that doesn`t call for it, in my opinion.

There are a ton of things to make fun of or use as an `example` in the government - probably, including the FBI. This doesn`t seem to be one of them.
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Male 72
@Zeegrr60

1. Learn to spell
2. Learn basic grammar
3. Learn
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Female 23
I`m seriously going to freak out if this conspiracy crap keeps up. All they`re doing is asking her questions and she`s being SO disrespectful.
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Male 2,143
If she supports palistine,she supports terror.So maybe the mother of 5 future terrorists needs removed from society. I`m glad the F.B.I. keeps an eye on terrorists.
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Male 411
irony would be if her kids went to Sandy Hook...
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Male 106
Did anyone else notice she was not showing her face?
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Male 820
Wow. The agents were very respectful and calm and she was snide and argumentative. I`m sure she thinks she won something or proved a point or got one over on them, but she really just showed her uglyness to the world.
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Male 2,549
Ugh, the snide amusement in the inflection of her voice is so damn annoying.
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Male 143
patchgrabber

Agreed. She was fishing just as much as they were.
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Male 143
Yup. Ask Martha Stewart. The only wrongdoing she was convicted of was lying to the FBI.
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Male 5,811
@paperduck: If she doesn`t want to answer the questions then why get them to ask the questions? If you don`t want to say anything then just shut the damn door instead of being an a$$hole.
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Male 1,745
patchgrabber because if you just say "no" without knowing what they`re talking about, you could be getting yourself in deeper legal trouble. If there is something you should have known but didn`t, it can be taken as a lying to them or obstruction of justice, etc. You can be completely innocent! Ask a lawyer about it but if you can be implicated in any way, shape, or form the best thing to do is NOT answer anything until your answers have been okayed by a lawyer.
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Male 14,330
Just answer your door in a tin foil hat and say hurry up I`m speaking with Xenu!!
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Male 1,745
xfactormunky the point of this video is to show what happens. This was a "intimidation" tactic to frighten marginal protestors. It`s strongly implied in the video that she has no affiliation with any kind of illegal activity, yet she gets a visit basically to let her know "we know who you are and we`re watching you".
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Male 338
Wait...you`re a mother of five children?
Right guys, back in the van, this one`s clean, she`s a mother of five kids.
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Male 37,888
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Male 2,390
was this an anti fbi video or a middle east awareness video? I r Confuzed?
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Female 2,027
SNORE
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Male 5,811
If she says "mother of five children" again I`m going to slap her through the internet. Plus, don`t you only have the right to remain silent if you`re under arrest? If you`re just being questioned, you don`t have to say anything anyway. What a dumb bitch, he asked a simple question that has a simple answer: "no." Why antagonize these agents over a simple question? Not letting them in your house? Fine. Checking credentials? Fine. Laughing and wasting their time by getting them to ask questions and then "pleading silence" is just being a dick.
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Male 1,582
Wow, she is very condescending. Not cool lady.
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Male 4
I just can`t understand how you US people don`t realize that you are terrorist to other countries.
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Male 116
I feel like this video is meant to gather support for this woman`s cause, but it does the exact opposite. She is so rude and annoying, these people were just doing their job, not acting maliciously in any way, and i`m sure if she just cooperated the whole encounter would have lasted like 45 seconds.
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Male 1,627
lady is too bitchy. couldnt watch
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Male 17,512
JoeSwanson: Apparently you didn`t get the part where the police and FBI can lie to you, but if they can find any discrepancy in what you say to them, then they consider it as lying to them.

Lying to the police or FBI can lead to jail time and fines. That`s something you don`t want to be have to try to defend against in court, even if you video taped it.

Any lawyer will tell you it`s best to keep your mouth shut, not invite them in and be polite but firm about discussing your constitutional rights.
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Male 179
who gives a drat if she has a whole little of kids, why is it people jump all over that like asking some questions or turning up at a house where kids live will destroy their lives?
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Male 1,252
Seriously they simply asked a few questions... hey obviously had SOME reason to ask... I dont see why a brief voluntary inquiry is such a burden.. better to conduct a full investigation based on information provided by their `source` and then simply show up, kick her door down and haul her ass off to jail while implications are dealt with? If i were in her shoes I would much appreciate the heads up, `hey...theres been reports and you might want to watch your poo`.

Sure those are her rights but those rights are dependent on voluntary cooperation, abuse of them just makes it worse for everybody.
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Male 143
@Cartunze
" If you don`t say anything at all, you might be detained for questioning".

Only if there is probable cauase to arrest. Detaining people for questioning is not legal in this country without PC. You have the right to not talk to the police if you don`t want to.
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Male 840
There is no "Off the record". You have the right to remain silent (Not really. If you don`t say anything at all, you might be detained for questioning. You have to say that it is your right to remain silent.) Anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you.
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Male 143
"How about the whole confrontation clause...who is her accuser?"

Law enforcement can inquire and she can say no. The Debour ruling standards. She wasn`t charged. Doesn`t apply until she is. C`mon you know this stuff. You`re a lawyer aren`t you?
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Male 195
Read the drating constitution instead of rolling over it. Constitution not good enough, even the brits understood this poo.

"The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail—its roof may shake—the wind may blow through it—the storm may enter—the rain may enter—but the King of England cannot enter!—all his forces dare not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement!"
William pitt


Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
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Male 195
If its a police state you want than this is what you get. This was just harassment. If there was anything credible about their information coming to her door with anything but a warrant was worthless. Really this is batpoo crazy. This is an attempt to silence someone, not investigate someone. I deal with confidential informants every day. They do not tell you your part of an investigation till they have pc for the arrest.
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Male 195
How about the whole confrontation clause...who is her accuser?
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Male 143
@coyoteking

They clearly told her several times the reason they were there was NOT as a result of the protests she attended. They said it was information from a call in; information from another source apparently.
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Male 143
@axeman929
"Condescending, are you kidding, they where on her property with no reason to be there."

None of us on here know what information they were working with to end up at her doorstep. 310 million people in the U.S. and they showed up at her house. What, did they pick her name out of the phone book and decide to send agents over for sh*ts and giggles ?

She could have just told them bye bye and shut the door. But she chose to break their balls, talk down to them, and advance her opinions.

As I said before, she made her point, and so did they.
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Male 1,268
your perception as to why they`re at your home.
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Male 1,268
I`ve been witness to a crime, been in the vicinity of a crime although it had nothing to do with me and I didn`t see nor care about any of it, and finally had the cops called to my address where no crime had taken place under false pretenses. "Kids" in the military + alcohol + sex = complications. Anyway, in every instance when I was asked "Did you see/do you know/what happened after/will you write a statement?" not once did I feel the need to tell these cops how I`ve defended the constitution. How I have top secret security clearances. How I am more adept with a firearm and hand to hand combat than either of them are. How I`m fairly certain I`m smarter. Why is that? `Cause it`s all fraking douche moves. It may ALL be true, I may not be violating a single law in pointing it all out. Still doesn`t make it necessary.

Give them accurate info, or shut your mouth and refuse to tell them anything. No one cares about your kids, your part time job, or you perceptio
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Male 1,737
My guess is they are checking everyone who supports terrorists, like she clearly does. Funny how they make seem like it`s about FBI when it`s about pushing her agenda. According to her, no one who has kids and a job couldn`t possibly be a terrorist. Whatever, poo like this pisses me off is all.
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Male 2,988
it amazes me how many people think she is in the wrong i of some sort in this situation. she did nothing that was not in her rights to do so. and to say she was condescending? how would you react if the FBI came to your door step and basically accused you of plotting to commit a crime or being an accomplice of someone you know is plotting to commit one solely based on the fact that you exercised one of your freedoms (to protest).

the sad part here is that even though she didnt give them info, she will continue to be on the FBI`s watch list for years to come.
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Male 195
Gotta clear one thing up. If you are not under arrest...Miranda does not apply. Any thing you say when you are not in custody can be used against you. She was free to close the door. Anything she said could have been used against her. Before or after arrest the best thing she could have done was say nothing. She is an activist, they got what they asked for coming to her door with no PC.
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Male 195
Five kids. ..she has the patience of Job. And the tenacity or our forefathers. Condescending, are you kidding, they where on her property with no reason to be there. A little thin blue line in here tonight.
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Male 195
She is awesome. Freedom must be protected by every American this way. They have no probable cause to be there. If you do not love this you are sheeple or leo`s and do not deserve the freedom you do not even know you do not have. Not a bitch but a true freedom loving American. I don`t love her politics but as a defense attorney I wish everyone would do this. We would secure freedom for our children.
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Male 15,832
Those agents had the patience of Job. If it were me, I would have given that smarmy pro-terrorist khunt an old-fashioned wood shampoo.
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Male 2
Stupid uptight bitch. Stop being so stubborn and answer the drating question with a simple yes or no.

No need to be a "self righteous bitch" as iscariot40 said.
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Female 1,236
I certainly don`t agree with her politics, but most of this is good, basic, advice. I did wonder why she kept reiterating the fact that she`s a mother of five--as if that precludes her from being up to no good.
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Male 143
Yeah, she was pretty condescending.
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Male 48
Just because you have the right to remain silent doesn`t mean you need to be a self righteous bitch about it.
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Male 36,469
[quote]They should be investigating her husband.
Why does he let her have opinions?![/quote]
@Gerry1 If she lived in "Palestine" she`d be beaten by her husband for talking to a male without a male blood-relative present... kinda ironic, eh?
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Male 17,512
I don`t agree with this woman`s politics, but she has the right to remain silent and she did so.

As for why the FBI is involved, Pro-Palestinian organizations have a record of funding terrorism and violence. Also their protests have been rather aggressive and confrontational in the past.
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Male 1,745
Kitillia she was not rude at all. The point of not answering that question is smart legally. You need to a have a lawyer present in case you get wrapped up in something which you have no knowledge about.
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Male 1,745
Awesome, this is what knowing your rights look like.
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Female 500
Okay, I was so on her side of the argument for a good 5 seconds. Then, I watched how rudely she treated the people whose job it is to protect her, and I no longer had any respect for her. This is the same person that will say, "where was the fbi" when there is a serious terrorist threat close to home. She needs to more fully understand what she stands for and who she fights against before making such an ignorant and disrespectful video. Like some others said, having kids does not hold her above violence.
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Male 72
Looks like Americans being afraid of their own government again, bear your arms tight yanks.
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Male 914
"this lady needs to be locked up, and soon"

You disgust me.
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Male 37,888

They should be investigating her husband.
Why does he let her have opinions?!
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Male 914
This lady is awesome beyond words.
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Male 1,268
"if i had five kids i very seriously wouldn`t have the time to screw around with the feds."

This. I mean, wtf, she needs to pop out a couple more before she can keep her goofy ass in the kitchen or something? How does anyone have free time to shoot the poo with the FBI when they have five kids?

Being serious. Big deal. Honestly.
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Male 136
after watching the entire video, I completely understand why they were at her door. IMO she should be under constant surveillance.
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Male 37,888

Raise your hand if you think that interview would have gone very differantly if she weren`t recording it.

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Male 612
why does she think that having unprotected sex five times means anything special? Her being a mother of five kids does not give her any innocence or special powers. She is also not really understanding that you can`t "plead silence". Thats not a thing. She has a right to remain silent. The only thing she can plead is the fifth amendment, which only is only used to not answer any self incrimination questions. it does not mean she can lie, or withhold information.

clearly one more liberal that doesn`t really understand the man that she is fighting against.
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Male 136
this lady needs to be locked up, and soon
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Female 4,086
if it was me, i would have said, `no comment. thanks for coming over and have a nice day.` and closed my front door. if i had five kids i very seriously wouldn`t have the time to screw around with the feds.
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Male 2,384
every time i see this makes me want to move out of america even more
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Male 646
I don`t see why she didn`t just tell them to leave, or just shut up. And, just b/c you`re a mother of five who walks with her kids, doesn`t mean that you`re automatically a good person. Osama was a father of more kids, and he was kind of a douche.

It`s also kind of weird that the FBI would show up to ask her questions. What kind of answers did they expect?
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Male 143
It`s just how the game is played. You`re free to say just about anything you want, and sometimes there are consequneces. There`s likely more to this story than just showing up at a few protests. She made her point, and they made theirs.
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Female 86
MINORITY REPORT.
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Male 36,469
@solaren: No, I`m fairly sure you still have the same rights, regardless of who is asking you questions.
In theory, anything you tell the police before you`re arrested (& Miranda`d) isn`t admissable in court. In REALITY they do that crap ALL the time!

I completely disagree with her politics, but she`s well within her rights to give those two a hard time!

Rule #4: The police CAN and WILL lie to you! They`ll say ANYTHING to get you to get yourself in trouble. They have NO rules restraining them. None.
There is no "off the record" with the cops, nothing is "just between you and me" it`s ALL used as evidence against you.
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Male 1,293
Why didn`t she just say "I have nothing to say, please leave" and close the door?

They were polite, did nothing wrong. Why is she so fussed about this?

Of course she puts material in the video that contains anti-Semitic blood libels, so if she`s looking for sympathy she can look in the dictionary, it`s between sh*t and syphilis.
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Male 684
lol, you always have a right to remain silent...they aren`t freaking wonder woman, they don`t have a magic lasso, now they may arrest you because you refuse to speak, but you can still be silent.
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Male 7,775
Totally agree with honkeylips and dead-kittens.
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Male 1,471
None of you are seeing the wrongness in this ?..

The FBI is asking a respectable citizen and mother of 5, if she "knows of any illegal activity" (read: we`re keeping an eye on you), because she is vocal about her political views that disagree with official government policy..

She has every right to be pissed..
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Male 37,888

"A mother of 5 kids" "A mother of 5 kids" "A mother of 5 kids"
Having children doesn`t make you peaceful.
Osama bin Laden had a lot of kids. George W. Bush has kids.... whats yer point?
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Male 1,586
It cracks me up that people go out and protest and raise holy hell about things and expect that to be the end of it. You are perfectly free to go out and protest, but the FBI is perfectly free to show up at your door and question you too.
I tell my students all the time that they are free to say and do whatever they want in my room, but that doesn`t mean there aren`t consequences. That`s how life works.
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Male 2,516
I feel bad for the FBI agents
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Male 5,013
Evil_Eye so maybe they have to come and knock at your door like that...


if they don`t want to be recognized by anyone.
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Male 10
You don`t actually have the "right to remain silent". You`re not under arrest, you`re not on the stand. You have no Miranda Rights until you`re under arrest.
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Male 1,442
The unwarranted self importance is high on this lady.

The FBI have a right to privacy on who their agents are, that is why it is a "secret service". If the original video was uncensored, then it might be a crime... though I am not sure.
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Male 1,252
I made it to 4:20 before shutting that off...lady is just being a total c*nt and needs to realize that there ARE actual violent/radical protestors and shes just being a bitch about authorities making inquiries. Shes too busy `drating the system` to be a responsible citizen.
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Male 5,013
Oh the land of freedom!
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Male 2,545
just answer with their last answer and ask your question again

a whole ten minutes of
`who called me in?`
can`t answer that, are you going to blow stuff up?`
can`t answer that, who called me in?`
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Male 342
Maybe MacGuffin should give my testicles a tongue bath....definitely.
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Female 2,602
"maybe I`m just an idiot"

Could be.
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Male 7,378
This is scary.
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Male 3,285
Looks more like a propaganda video by a very stupid "peace activist".
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Male 1,471
"We`re just here to ask you some questions".. BS!

They were there to tell her that they were keeping their eye on her and everyone else in her activist movement.
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Male 342
I really hate videos like this. Yes there`s knowing your right, what you can and can`t answer, what you should and shouldn`t say or do. But this lady is just being a pain in the ass, I am so sick of people who "know their rights" trying to make someone who is in authority look dumb. No you don`t have to incriminate yourself, but they`re not asking that. Maybe I`m just an idiot, but it would seem so much easier to answer the questions and be done with it.
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Male 2,368
Lord that mother of five kids is annoying.
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Female 8,044
Link: When The F.B.I. Knocks On Your Door [Rate Link] - This video has been removed from YouTube because of a privacy complaint made by the FBI. Is this how they protect us?
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