Visual Effects Are Important [Pic]

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 3 years ago Misc

Respect visual effects and the artists that make them. I guess Ang Lee doesn"t.
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Male 94
no. vfx isn`t easy. rotoscoping is nothing to laugh at.
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Male 151
The entertainment industry is probably the one business that everyone is an expert on--yet doesn`t work in. Because they read something on a blog, saw entertainment tonight, etc etc.

As someone who works in post-production, this is VERY refreshing to see. It`s about damn time the word got out about how disgusting a sweat-shop it is. There is no other industry where people have such high-skill, education, and put such investment into themselves to have such little return.

It would blow your mind how poorly everyone is paid & treated, and worst of all, how thankless the job is... even though it saves everyone`s ass, EVERY. TIME.

There are times I make less than minimum wage, get no compensation for overtime, have no benefits, sick days, etc.
And I`m reminded, every day, how lucky I am to be working by someone who can barely use a computer, takes a 2 hour lunch, and makes $2500 a week.
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Male 3,408
i never noticed thor standing there like a bad ass in that scene in avengers when cap is blocking the blast of fire with his shield protecting black widow. this seems kind of pushy. every one knows how important visual effects are to modern day movie making, weve seen avatar. this non-nice individual doesnt need to act like no one cares.
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Female 2,027
cooooooooooooooooool
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Male 1,737
Give credit where credit is due, everyone goes home happy.
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Male 324
Listen to the commentary on "Avengers." Whedon talks a LOT about meeting with the VFX team to create the Hulk: bringing in Mark Ruffalo in to talk about certain scenes with them (not just for the motion capture), talking about his ideas for the Hulk`s inner nature, writing letters, and describing the Hulk as a collaborative effort between Ruffalo and the team. That`s why the 10 minutes of onscreen Hulk in the Avengers is more effective than the entirety of Ang Lee`s "Hulk" film.
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Male 7,924
Ang Lee is probably still pissed at visual artists because of the incredible hulk.
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Male 7,353
ak4775-"I`ve tried to explain to my eleven yr old the talent it took to actually create special effects prior to cgi."

I agree. The sculpting, video tricks and laborious stop-motion took talent. Much more interesting than someone sitting before a computer.

But, alas, it`s common. I learned graphic design when you still used straight edges, rapidographs, ink, paint and non-photo blue pencils. When you still lettered by hand and to make a 3" logo you drew it 3 feet accross and photostatted it down to keep it clean.

Yes, thanks to computers you can do great graphic design, quicker faster and cleaner. BUT, for the most part, we`ve lost a lot of the art that used to go into it.
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Male 1,582
@tuapui
I do vfx as a hobby and it`s pretty damn easy. Sure complex animation can get pretty tricky (say the tiger), but a lot of this stuff isn`t very complicated. That being said, I still think the vfx department deserves a lot of credit.
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Male 94
wow. people just don`t understand how hard vfx is and how little the artists are paid. it`s not about how movies would look without vfx, or if vfx artists are paid or not. its about how ignorant people are about jobs they know nothing about, and how little they value the people who work their asses off to add value to entertainment for the people with `respectable jobs` that would like to unwind after a long day, or someone who would like to get lost in a fantasy.
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Male 161
awe boo hoo...you still got paid didnt ya? quit complaining and do your damn job.
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Male 354
I`ve tried to explain to my eleven yr old the talent it took to actually create special effects prior to cgi. He still has a limit on how old a movie is before he`ll watch it. So I force him. Damn sad is what it is.
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Male 194
A lot of those examples COULD have been done using costumes, makeup and pyrotechnics instead of VFX work. Movie studios simply rely on the computer enhancements because they`re cheaper.
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Male 3,431
What about the drug dealers that keep Hollywood rolling in cocaine? They are the unsung heros of the entertainment industry.
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Male 2,841
So long as it`s done well who gives a poopty doo?
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Male 7,353
Suicism-"Doesn`t mean they shouldn`t be recognized as individuals."

Doesn`t mean they should, either. Quite frankly, I don`t care if any of them get recognized: Actor, composer, directors, etc. The entire awards things is just a bunch of make-believers patting each other on the back make-believing they actually matter.

Yes, they are artists. So what? So am I. I don`t care for recognition, I just want the paycheck.

If you want your art to be appreciated, fine, more power to you. I want my work to be appreciated, too. Show me your appreciation in cash.

For those works that are personal, that I want to do, that I feel need to be done? I do that on my own time, expecting no pay and no subsidies. Sometimes I sell them, sometimes I donate them, sometimes I keep them.

Being an artist is just a job. Kinda like being a welder.

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Male 2,436
Visual effects alone do not make a great movie.

Avatar sucked.
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Male 3,631
MeGrendel - I`m not sure what your point is, but the same goes for editing. Doesn`t mean they shouldn`t be recognized as individuals.
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Male 936
as an artist I don`t care.
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Male 198
It`s not about paychecks. It`s about recognition, and respect. They`re artists, and they just want some recognition, instead of just being a line in the credits.

their goal is that you don`t notice that what you see is CGI. To blur that line between what`s real and what`s not. They did a damn good job on the tiger, and people who don`t know it`s CGI probably thought that the tiger had a damn good trainer.

All the team that created the co-star of the movie wants is some recognition.
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Female 9,402
If it makes the movie more interesting, I don`t care.
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Male 3,445
"And the fact that these whiny douche-bags feel as if they should get something other than their PAYCHECKS is laughable."

This goes way beyond the Oscar issue. There is a huge problem in Hollywood right now with the way the studios treat visual effects artists. Studios are asking more and more of them, and not paying them for the extra work. Many visual effects artists have to work long hours without overtime. In other cases, artists are losing their jobs to outsourcing more and more, where the studios can get shots done for cheap.
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Male 37,902

Stuntmen [quote]"You never see them get awards" [/quote]
Legendary stuntman Hal Needham was given an award at the 2013 Oscars.
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Male 7,353
Yes, they are artists. But to be truly a master of visual effects you have to aim to go unnoticed.

You don`t want a spectator to go `Hey, cool effect`. You want them to not realizee it is an effect at all.

CrakrJak-"There was a time when CGI was unknown"

And, there was one movie, TRON (1982) that was disqualified from receiving an Academy Award nomination for special effects, because the Academy felt at the time that using computers was "cheating".
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Male 2,631
Yes, I would. And the fact that these whiny douche-bags feel as if they should get something other than their PAYCHECKS is laughable.
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Female 86
I would LOVE to watch all those movies again, but without all the effects!
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Male 17,512
12chars: Be it as it may, they don`t often get to share the big stage and people that risk their lives and livelihoods for it, should get to do so.
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Male 906
Crakr except for these awards
These called the Taurus awards

This guy won an academy award

Vic Armstrong became the first stuntman to win both an Academy Award (for developing a descender rig as a safe alternative to airbags) and a Bafta award (for lifetime achievement in film).

Also there`s the World Stunt Awards.The eight awards are: Best Fight, Best Fire Stunt, Best High Work, Best Overall Stunt by a Stunt Man, Best Overall Stunt by a Stunt Woman, Best Speciality Stunt, Best Work with a Vehicle and Best Stunt Coordinat
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Male 3,445
"I believe one of the most unsung professions in Hollywood are the stuntmen and stuntwomen. You never see them get awards."

There is no Oscar for stunts, but there is a stunt awards show. I believe it`s shown on Spike TV. I know some people in the stunt industry. I think they enjoy being on their little island on the fringe of Hollywood. What I do hear them complain about, however, is certain directors (who shall remain unnamed) who don`t take proper safety precautions and get people seriously injured or worse.
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Male 17,512
There was a time when CGI was unknown, but even then there were artists doing `visual effects` on glass plates, celluloid and large stages.

I believe one of the most unsung professions in Hollywood are the stuntmen and stuntwomen. You never see them get awards.
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Male 906
jonswan12 "Life of Pi", directed by Ang Lee, pulled down four Oscars. The most of any film this year.

It won Best director, best cinematography, best original score, and BEST VISUAL EFFECTS. I am sure the visual effects artists helped with that somehow.
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Male 72
maybe if the CGI was any good it would have won best picture
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Male 2,143
I only care about one special effect...:Was I entertained.
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Male 1,950
somebody really missed their `atta-boy` a few nights ago...
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Male 8
Is it because being "artists" means that being included as a common "crew member" would be...ugh....disgusting.
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Male 3,445
I hate watching CGI-fests, but don`t blame the effects artists for that. Blame the studios and directors for relying on those effects instead of plot, character development, and practical effects.
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Male 14,330



Remember when movies had those things oohh gee what were they oh ya PLOTS!! We should bring those back IN DA 3Dzzz!!!
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Male 3,285
4 starwars films gerry. Only Ep 5 and 6 were any good.
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Male 37,902

Yeah, great effects are, well "Great" as Tony the Tiger says. But I don`t care how good the CGI is, it does not make up for a bad script, bad plot, poor direction or mediocre acting.

Example: Godzilla, Catwoman, DareDevil, Green Lantern, the last Batman movie and oh.... 3 Star Wars Films! haha
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Male 3,285
@drprofessor there were still visual artists who did special effects using film based technology.
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Male 3,894
I respect visual effects, but it`s entirely possible to make movies without them. People did it for ages before computers came around.
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Female 8,044
Link: Visual Effects Are Important [Pic] [Rate Link] - Respect visual effects and the artists that make them. I guess Ang Lee doesn`t.
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