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Date: 02/13/13 05:39 PM

77 Responses to Texas Teen Sues Parents Over Forced Abortion

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    February 13, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    Link: Texas Teen Sues Parents Over Forced Abortion - Who will pay the bills when the child is born? How much obligation do the parents bear in this case? Slippery slope?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 13, 2013 at 5:54 pm
    Abortion should be legal until age eighteen.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 13, 2013 at 6:48 pm
    Did that guy just said that the fetus has a right to be protected? People need to make a make up their mind.


    Anyways, I don`t care for micromanaging local politics.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    February 13, 2013 at 6:49 pm
    @markust123

    if i were an non-nice individual id say something along the lines of `someone tried that last december, but it seems to upset parents`.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 13, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    Well, I`m torn.
    I`m against abortion, but I believe parents, who suffer the legal responsability for a 16 year old, should also have the legal authority to make the adult decisions... like medical decisions. So, I think abortion is wrong, but the reality is that it IS legal and it`s up to the parents.

    As for taking away the car and cell phone... I doubt that 16 year old paid for them so they can take away anything they want, without notice. I bet the little snot expects her parents to support her AND her child. You want to be an adult? Then go out and BE an adult, support yourself.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    February 13, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    Slippery slope indeed.
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    paco664 Male 40-49
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    February 13, 2013 at 7:00 pm
    her parents should have had an abortion 16 or so years ago.....

    it would have saved them a lot of problems later....
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    February 13, 2013 at 7:02 pm
    @gerry i agree and you make some good points. but (as the parent) why not just agree to sign emancipation papers? you`re off the hook legally and can still have the personal/financial relationship you want. the real question is what to do when the 16 year old wants to keep the kid and the parents want to abort it.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    February 13, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    They should flip a coin...Unless it comes out black.




    (Just kidding, take a joke people)
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 13, 2013 at 7:28 pm
    By the way, the slippery slope argument is, itself, a slippery slope.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 13, 2013 at 7:36 pm
    It`s pretty simple, you cannot FORCE someone to have an abortion, period. The same way you cannot force someone to carry a child to term.

    You CAN take their toys away and make them get a job, that`s fine!

    Just disown the girl & let the baby-daddy have her.

    Harsh (cruel even) but fair.
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    thelonious Male 40-49
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    February 13, 2013 at 8:25 pm
    This child will be a criminal one day being so surrounded by love and such as.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    February 13, 2013 at 8:49 pm
    No, I don`t think they should force her.
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    Plangkye Female 18-29
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    February 13, 2013 at 8:56 pm
    5Cats has it right. The article says the girl claims she and the father want to raise the child, and be parents - she should be able to choose that, and likewise, her parents should be allowed to show her the door so they aren`t saddled with the consequences of someone else`s (i.e. their daughter`s) screwups. It`s too bad that the likelihood in the end is that nobody wins, but it`s better than taking away her right to choose what she does with her body and her life.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 13, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    skypirate, I agree emancipation would be a solutioin, but I don`t recall the kid asking for the right to assume the responsabilities of an adult. I think the parents are skum, but I believe they are within their rights to make the decisions until the kid is an adult or emancipated.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 13, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    5cats - you can emotionally disown a kid, but that does not relieve you of the financial burden. Only if the courts emancipate her. If they take a kid from you they can still charge you for the kids keep. No, chucking her in the street isn`t a solution.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    February 13, 2013 at 9:45 pm
    @gerry but I don`t recall the kid asking for the right to assume the responsabilities of an adult

    lol
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 13, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    I mean she didn`t want to do this one thing, but she wasn`t sueing to be emancipated.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    February 13, 2013 at 10:08 pm
    so its better to be a 16 year old mother?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 13, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Why is it adoption never occurs to people?
    BrAngelina has to go all the way to africa to get a kid fer crisakes. They could save a fortune on travel if there were more available locally.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    February 13, 2013 at 11:28 pm
    Baby daddy marry her and work and support her and baby. That is what should happen, that`s what used to happen.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 13, 2013 at 11:58 pm
    Whoah, i am all for legal, fee and accessible abortion- but not against this girls wishes. She needs support, counselling and a clear understanding of the life she is taking on, not bullying. Having a child at that age will not be easy, but if her parents were so against it then they should have made sure she had a coil, or a jab to protect her as well as condoms. This is awful- poor kid. No contraception is 100% but as parents they should have made sure she was as close to this as possible, the conversation should have been had- what if, then what... long before she actually got pregnant!!!!
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 12:15 am
    I second what Madduck said.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 14, 2013 at 4:32 am
    "Why is it adoption never occurs to people?"

    I concur with Gerry on this. The newborn could be adopted. Forcing any woman to have an abortion, no matter her age, should be illegal.

    If this girl wanted an abortion, against her parents wishes, all the `pro-abortion` people would be chanting for her `rights`. I find it disgusting that many of the `pro-abortion` people are now being hypocrites and supporting her parents `rights`.

    I`m for the fetus` rights regardless, it`s a human being and should have the right to life.
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    fancythat Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 4:39 am
    Sorry, Dad. Trying to open her legs this time won`t change the fact she`s already opened them at least once before...
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    February 14, 2013 at 5:38 am
    If you are a teen hiring lawyers to fight mom and dad, then you know mom and dad did a bad job raising you. That is a train wreck of a situation. Sad.
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    Plangkye Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 5:38 am
    Re: the "Why not adoption" route - Because the article specifically says the girl wants not only to carry the baby to term but to raise it herself (whether that means on her own dime or not is irrelevant).
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 5:52 am
    While you`re at it tie the hoes tubes she obviously can`t understand the concept of contraceptives.
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    Dragonace Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 5:58 am
    To all of you people who think that adoption is a better option. Please do some research and look at how over crowded and underfunded the American DFACS system is. Very few kids who are put up for adoption actually ever get adopted, especially for minority children. Many of them end up aging out of the system and end up having tons of psychological problems because of it. Adoption is not always a better option. Besides who are we to say that a life of misery is better than no life at all? How do we know what comes before and after life as we know it?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 6:05 am
    @5cats: You are indeed correct, although the parents do have legal say over their daughter, that doesn`t mean they can force her to have a medical procedure. She has to ask their permission if she wants one, but she doesn`t need their permission to keep it. I`m on the kid`s side on this all the way. I may think it`s a stupid decision, but that`s why I`m pro-CHOICE (not pro-abortion @Crakr).
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    February 14, 2013 at 6:22 am
    I think mom and dad will pay her legal fees? Who else? The state? :-)
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 6:37 am

    Crakr, Fetus Rights is the one thing we`ve always agreed on. But the reality is that abortion is legal {for now} so while it is, I think the parents have the legal right to make the decision. Morally, I`d say they were totally bankrupt, but legally, it`s theirs to make.

    We expect parents to parent, and when they do we strip their authority away. Okay, this may be a rather extreme example of parental rights, but the point is the same. "You can`t spank a child" "you can`t discipline them! you`ll squash their creativity" "You must medicate your son for ADHD because he was acting like a boy"
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    Wendypants Female 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 7:00 am
    Okay, so (to the parents of this little slut) don`t make her get an abortion, just disown her ass and kick her out of your house and don`t give her or her kid anything ever. (Leave that to the government.) Harsh? maybe but how else will that little mean person ever learn... anything?
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 7:19 am
    Damn.. pro-choice people get plumb vicious when someone "chooses" to keep their child. You asshats know nothing about this person, yet you label her a slut, whore, and whatever else.

    I swear.. you all need to really evaluate yourselves.
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
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    February 14, 2013 at 7:21 am
    Wow. After reading some of these comments I feel the need to go over to my parents house and give them both a big hug and thank you. How sad to read some of this on Valentine`s Day no less.
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    Zieveraar Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 7:23 am
    There`s no way that any girl/woman should ever be forced to have an abortion. Ever. All involved need to man up and take responsibility. If the girl doesn`t want an abortion and wants to raise the kid, then it should be so. No matter how hard it`s going to be for her.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 7:45 am
    This is interesting because it turns the `pro-choice` argument on its head. I `hope` it shows the issues with bad sex-ed, bad parental communication and bad access to contraceptive services. If you want to reduce abortion rates then free contraception, good sex-ed, good access to health services are proven to work. If you want to stop teen pregnancies then you need free and easy contraception, good sex ed, good access to health services. All teenagers should have free contraception available without needing their parents consent- because things like this show how things can go awry. Teenagers are walking hormones and they are incapable of making good decisions because of their brains development, you cannot rely on upbringing to get them to abstain- even grown adults get `caught up in the moment` - you cannot expect a 16yr old to behave sensibly. I like the depo jab, in their sleep if needs be!!!!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 7:50 am
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    February 14, 2013 at 8:33 am
    There certainly are a lot worse things than a 16 year old having a baby. If it`s cared for and loved by two industrious parents things will work out. If grandpa just takes a chill pill he`ll probably come around and come to accept things.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    February 14, 2013 at 8:39 am
    Teens have sex. The best thing we can do is increase sex-ed in schools and make birth control easily accessible. If a teen wants to have sex, at least make sure they know what they are getting into and are well prepared.

    As for the pregnancy, you can`t undo it. Killing the baby as a deterrent to others is just plain animalistic. If she wants to raise the child, let her. If she can`t handle it, she can put it up for adoption.

    The whole situation sucks, but killing the baby is certainly not the solution.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 8:48 am
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    February 14, 2013 at 9:13 am
    Considering the pregnant child`s parents mentality and the girl`s lack of good sense- Abortion can only make America a better place.
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    TuckFarted Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 10:07 am
    It`s her decision, not her parents`
    She will have to find a job & take care of it..it has been done many times so I don`t get how these twonks decided they needed to force her to abort the baby.
    I`m not a pro-life nut, but abortion should only be considered when a woman has been raped or when there are multiple SEVERE genetic disabilities at play.
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    McThstlpnts Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 10:29 am
    I am honestly surprised the girl wants to keep the baby. I am on the girl`s side...however, who is going to pay this lawyer? Parents have "taken her phone and car"...they have every right to do so. She has made the decision to be an adult so she better grow the hell up and take some responsibility. Her parents should not have to financially support her and her baby. If she thought she was old enough to do the deed then she needs to pay the price for her actions.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    February 14, 2013 at 10:35 am
    Damn, forcing someone to have an abortion is fecking evil. And those calling her a slut or whore, well I assume you saved your precious virtue until marriage. No? Hypocrites then. A 16 year old had sex? Shock horror, stone the slut.

    Sex ed and easily available free contraception would be a start, but for some reason I don`t begin to understand there seems to be a lot of opposition to that in the US, mainly from pro-life hollier-then-thou right-wingers.

    Let`s see a few `pro-life` rally round to offer support.

    In pro-choice the key word is `choice`.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    February 14, 2013 at 10:40 am
    McThstlpnts

    You say you are on the girl`s side but that she needs to `pay the price`. How does that work? She needs to be punished, deprived of support or just have her nose rubbed in it?

    If that is being on her side she is in big trouble.
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    Limiteded Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 10:49 am
    Indeed. Legally, the decision to carry the child or to abort will be rest with the mother either way. The real issue here is the parents using coercive measures and underhanded tactics to force an abortion on this girl.

    The mother is already living with her grandparents, so I would assume that they have already cut off financial support.
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    Magentab0b Female 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 10:50 am
    What is funny is that it doesn`t really matter if the child comes to term. It isn`t about her baby or even her. It`s about her parents nearly breaking the law. But every one is going to make this about babies. Just another unrelated nearly related arena in which people get to spout their rhetoric. I wonder if there is a fund raiser set up I wouldn`t mind kicking in for a thing of diapers.
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    indisguise Female 40-49
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:08 am
    I`m right in the middle on this one. I`m prochoice - but the choice belongs to the person getting the procedure. Her parents should not be able to force her to get one. Neither should they be forced to raise their grandchild for her. She wants to be a mommy, she should go move in with the baby daddy (and likely his family) or get a place of her own and get a job to support herself and her kid. But she shouldn`t expect to continue living with her parents like business as usual. Others have mentioned her parents probably paid for the car and phone, so they are well within their rights to take them away. I wonder if the parents can file to emancipate themselves from her?
    This is what comes from restricting access to birth control and sex ed. My own parents were quite clear on the subject - if I got pregnant, I was raising and paying for the baby, not them. When I told them I wanted birth control, they made the appointment and hooked me up.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:11 am

    For those who think it`s the child`s decision...

    How many adult-medical decisions will you let her make? If she had cancer would you let her refuse treatment her parents had ordered? Would you let her refuse surgery? How about using birth control? If her parents wanted her on the pill can she refuse and make her parents pay for her medical costs while pregnant? {they`re are responsible for her medical bills}.

    How far do you let this child pretend she`s an adult?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:29 am
    @Gerry: Those situations don`t really compare. The first two deal with serious risk of harm if nothing`s done, and the last isn`t an invasive medical procedure. There is no fine line I guess, each situation may have to be judged individually.
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    Limiteded Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:34 am
    I`m not saying the mother should have the decision. I`m saying she has the decision regardless of whether or not she should.

    I could not agree with you more... Is it fair that mom and dad have no say in raising their minor daughter? I would be hard-pressed to think otherwise.

    At the same time, does the fact that the minor now resides with grandma and grandpa, who I imagine took her in and will likely be footing the bill now, sway your opinion in this particular case at all, Gerry?
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:38 am
    Gerry,

    Recently in my small town we had a case of a 16 year old girl who chose to decline cancer treatment. She`d been undergoing debilitating and painful treatment for years and understood that she had the choice of about a year of fairly normal life or three or four years of being treated and treatment being her life, with death being the outcome either way. She chose the former.

    Horrible for everyone but why would she be unqualified to make that choice?

    How far should you let this child pretend she`s an adult? Well apparently her parents were talking about slipping her an abortifiicient without her knowledge. How adult is that?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:43 am
    Essshhh relax guys from the sound of this daddys little cum dumpster will be back and on her back in no time popping out at least 5-7 kids for us to support!!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Regardless of whether she has the abortion or not,
    I`m sure she`ll be up and on her back in no time.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:52 am
    Who will take care of the baby is irrelevant. Parents do not have a legal right to force their daughter to abort a pregnancy. Period. It`s not about fetus rights, it`s not about parental rights, it`s about her rights.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 12:07 pm
    Calling her a slut is quite disgusting. Teenagers have sex, sex is nice, it`s fun, and when you are a teenager you want to do it for numerous reasons. Calling GIRLS names for doing what ( quite literally) comes naturally is something belonging to the Victorians. She is no more a slut than her boyfriend, just a shame she has such a pooty relationship with her parents.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    February 14, 2013 at 12:22 pm
    McGovern.
    You really don`t like women, do you? Daddy`s little cum dumpster? That`s a damaged place to be coming from. Maybe sharing a little too much there.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    Thank you, madduck. My thoughts exactly. Shaming girls for having sex is part of the reason that they don`t ask their parents to help them get contraceptives.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    February 14, 2013 at 12:28 pm
    Gerry,

    Oh no! You mean that when she is 17, 18, 23 whatever she might actually have sex again?(Clutches pearls) How vile.How utterly vile. Oh that the world has come to this.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 12:55 pm
    Nah I`m slamming her cause it sounds like everyone else in TX has! MWUAHAHAHAHA!! No really contraceptives FFS!!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 1:04 pm

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    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 1:05 pm
    What is the situation over there for contraceptives? Do kids have to pay, do their parents have to get involved, do schools sort it out?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 1:22 pm
    What is the situation over there for contraceptives? Do kids have to pay, do their parents have to get involved, do schools sort it out?

    They have sex ed in high school. Condoms you have to pay for but birth control can be covered by insurance. Stupid people still get knocked up early cause thug wannabees have to "raw dog" it and bimbos wanna bimbo.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    There are a number of reasons that teenagers get pregnant, and dismissing teen mothers as "sluts" (and I really hate that word) oversimplifies and contributes to the problem.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 1:47 pm
    I agree Zombunny, lets face it- there is a huge double standard here, and as long as it is done responsibly sex is fun. so basically a teenage girl of, say 15 would need to ask her parents about either the pill or the jab? That seem quite intrusive and while condoms should be worn at all times younger girls tend to be ridiculously fertile and have sharp anils. If a girls parents have issues with her emerging sex life she is reliants on condoms which she would have to pay for? How daft- give them free- and allow girls to get jabbed or implanted for free- once over about 14-15 they should be able to make that decision for themselves.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 1:47 pm
    Sharp NAILS...
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    February 14, 2013 at 1:56 pm
    ` knocked up early cause thug wannabees have to "raw dog" it and bimbos wanna bimbo`

    Cold shower. Seriously.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 2:01 pm
    There actually are clinics that do give out condoms for free. Planned Parenthood will give you a whole bag of them just for walking in the door.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    LOL you seem to think some don`t want to get knocked up. "I`m gonna get on MTV`z YALLZZ!!"
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    lungcancerz Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 2:32 pm
    kick garbage to the curb. The parent did a crappy job of raising her. she`s broken and should go out with the other broken trash. choice 2. spontaneous trip to the grand canyon. opps she got to close to the edge. 2 well deserved abortions with one nudge, i mean tragic accident
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 2:47 pm
    That`s a meaningless statement. Very few teenagers get pregnant on purpose. I`d say probably less than 1%, and the teen pregnancy rate in the U.S. is actually declining, thankfully.
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    Twinklestein Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 10:22 pm
    I`m waiting for the follow-up report that she was attacked by "unknown assailants" and miscarried due to repeated kicks to the stomach.
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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:17 pm
    that`s just sad
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 14, 2013 at 11:24 pm
    I would also like to poinr out that a few years ago it was normal to starta famaily by 20 or so, I had my first child at 22, I know quite a few girls who were mothers by 21 and damn fine mothers they are too. My own feeling is that if you squeeze `em out at 40 or over you are probably too selfish and set to be a mother. but that is not my decision....
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 15, 2013 at 6:44 am
    I would also like to poinr out that a few years ago it was normal to starta famaily by 20 or so
    And before that it was normal at 18, then 16, etc. until we`re back to the time when we sold women`s virginity as chattel trying to knock them up as soon as we could. Appeals to tradition are not valid.
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    PTPete Female 30-39
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    February 16, 2013 at 7:31 pm
    When I was counseling for California I found the younger mothers to be sadly lacking in parenting skills. They needed TONS of assistance. The older moms tended to have their act together. There are always exceptions, of course--I know several. So the debate continues...

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