North Korea Explained [Pic]

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 4 years ago in Misc

They may be on to something with that LMS thing.
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Male 427
"The allies had excellent cryptographic intelligence indicating the Japanese military were rapidly building up their defenses in areas targeted for allied invasion...They correctly judged the military were still firmly in control and determined to fight on rather than accept unconditional surrender."

Yep, and do you know why those areas were targeted for allied invasion? Because they were the best areas to invade, it wasn`t just the allies who wanted to invade Japan. If Japan surrendered to the allies there was no guarantee that they wouldn`t be invaded by the Russians. Dropping more bombs only showed that not accepting the allies` ultimatum would end up being worse than a Russian invasion.
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Male 14,334
@spanerbulb

Facts aren`t your forte huh?
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Male 317
"We nuked the japs. Problem is:We stopped there. N.Korea,Iraq,and a few others need to feel that pain."

Yeah you need to kill a few more hundred of thousands of civilians... how dare their autocratic leaders insult murica!!

"You got a big MO Fo bomb
you will drop it,
end of
microworld it
you got a invader in your house, you have a gun, or a wooden spoon, what you gonna use???
always use the biggest fecker you got
and do it
war is bad, no good putting it on a personal level"

F*cking idiot. Use the biggest and baddest weapon you`ve got? Do you realise how quickly technology is developing? Do you realise that with that mindset the world is completely and utterly doomed?
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Male 2,167
We nuked the japs. Problem is:We stopped there. N.Korea,Iraq,and a few others need to feel that pain.
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Male 1,243
Ha Ha McGovern, you`re such a dumbass!
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Male 3,612
North Korea is not the same plce it was ten yaers ago
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Male 14,835
Begging for scraps. Give them a few neutron bombs up the wazoo.
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Male 771
just step on him and get it over with already
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Male 14,334
There were far more civilian deaths caused in the fire bombings of Germany than nuking Japan something the high and mighty Europeans here will never point out for obvious reason. Along with the whole creating 2 world wars.
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Male 13,624
It was reported at the time to overcome Japan
100,000 US and allied army lives would possibly be lost
so they dropped big bombs

N.Korea is now the new threat
along with Iran
etc..
N.Korea being the maniac factor
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Male 13,624
Please gents and ladies
war is war
You got a big MO Fo bomb
you will drop it,
end of
microworld it
you got a invader in your house, you have a gun, or a wooden spoon, what you gonna use???
always use the biggest fecker you got
and do it
war is bad, no good putting it on a personal level
Ive been in active service, in Ireland in the `troubles`
and feck me its nay good
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Male 10,855
[quote">You continue to argue for something not even present in the historical record[/quote">

Yet, it`s not that hard to find

US Strategic Bombing Survey

[quote">Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey`s opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated.[/quote">
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Female 2,228
You continue to argue for something not even present in the historical record.

And you ignore that not only were many American, British, and Russian lives spared by the bomb but many Japanese lives as well.

I`ve already said war is hell, nobody wants killing if it can be avoided. But you make the best decision you can and more to the point you make the decision to win. End of story.
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Male 10,855
[quote]See what I did there? [/quote]

Yes, you continue to demonstrate your idiocy by pushing the same false dichotomy.
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Female 2,228
Cajun read the damn article before you open your mouth.

Then you can join conoas in advocating for the deaths of many thousands more in a costly unnecessary full scale allied land invasion.

See what I did there?
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Male 10,855
[quote]They correctly judged the military were still firmly in control and determined to fight on rather than accept unconditional surrender.[/quote]

Good grief, YOU support this gross mass murder as well? Sure they didn`t want an unconditional surrender. That does not mean they were unwilling to surrender. So good job burning yourself while justifying the mass incineration of almost entire country.
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Female 2,228
I guess I really am gonna have to hold your hand throughout this whole shebang.

Here we go: "The allies had excellent cryptographic intelligence indicating the Japanese military were rapidly building up their defenses in areas targeted for allied invasion...They correctly judged the military were still firmly in control and determined to fight on rather than accept unconditional surrender."

All this before the 1st bombing at Hiroshima (Nagasaki was after). You don`t even have the correct timeline. There was no surrender of any type offered between those bombings either.

You can`t even remember how many bombs we had let alone even the correct timeline of events that actually happened in real life.

Lie down before you hurt yourself.
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Male 109
i don`t think this is something to joke about. I think any nuclear bomb has the ability to cause considerable hard to our atmosphere. Especially with todays technology, in any world`s nation. Don`t joke about destroying my planet. K.thx.bye.
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Male 427
"You just got schooled by a `Murican too no less, which must really hurt your inflated ego. "
What are you talking about? You only proved that you`re an idiot. You said that the reason for the Nagasaki bombing was because the first reply of the Japanese was "mokusatsu". Even if you are correct then that`s only proving me right.
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Male 1,497
Whats missing is China standing above them.
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Female 2,228
You just got schooled by a `Murican too no less, which must really hurt your inflated ego.


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Male 427
"Perhaps it`s you that needs to read up on your history."
GJ choosing a link filled with bullpoo. 5 paragraphs debating what the japanese initial response, "mokusatsu", actually meant in english and nothing else. Yep, that`s totally what`s important here.


@earplay
are you serious? You had at least 3 bombs and only used 2. Please explain why there was a need to start with "a strong demonstration"? The US had more than enough a-bombs for a proper bombing IF NEEDED. It was not a complex moral decision at all, it was a pretty simple one and the USA drated it up.
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Female 2,228
No sweetie pie, it talks about how the allied powers, the *UK* included were all cool with the general plan of action. And about how we were gonna have the both of you, Russia and the UK come charging right on in with us if we decided to invade. (More`s the merrier).

And how certain Japanese civilian elements may have tried to "send out peace feelers through the Russians" but civilians were not in control of the government, the military was and so we had to deal with them.

Laziness wins you no favors here dearie. (And we only had 2 atomic bombs, Little Boy and Fat Man.)

You just got schooled sucka.
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Male 427
"Perhaps it`s you that needs to read up on your history."
GJ choosing a link filled with bullpoo. 5 paragraphs debating what the japanese initial response, "mokusatsu", actually meant in english and nothing else. Yep, that`s totally what`s important here.


@earplay
are you serious? You had at least 3 bombs and only used 2. Please explain why there was a need to start with "a strong demonstration"? The US had more than enough a-bombs for a proper bombing IF NEEDED. It was not a complex moral decision at all, it was a pretty simple one and the USA drated it up.
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Male 121
Ohhh good! An IAB fight. Can I get in? Here I come! Canoas, the use of the atomic bomb saved millions of lives, Japanese included. American troops were dying every day and the US was in no mood to lose more than necessary to the Japanese. Given the time it takes to construct one, there was no incentive to start with anything other than a strong demonstration. Do you think the Chinese or Vietnamese or Burmese or Koreans or Russians or anyone else objected to the decimation of a Japanese city. In the abstract calculus of war, it was a not a complex moral decision. Sad, but true.
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Female 2,228
Perhaps it`s you that needs to read up on your history.

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Male 427
"Damn right we didn`t like the conditions, we didn`t want them to ever again gain enough power to make war like that again."
So you`re implying you`re aware what the conditions were?
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Female 2,228
Damn right we didn`t like the conditions, we didn`t want them to ever again gain enough power to make war like that again.

Remember that Pearl Harbor was personal.
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Male 427
"Showing the destructive power of *one* bomb wasn`t enough. They didn`t surrender even then, they just became more determined, they were training grade schoolers to defend the homeland"
No, go read on the subject. They were ready to surrender with a few conditions. The USA didn`t like the conditions, so they bombed them again.
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Female 2,228
Showing the destructive power of *one* bomb wasn`t enough. They didn`t surrender even then, they just became more determined, they were training grade schoolers to defend the homeland much like Hitler was by scraping the bottom of the barrel back in Europe drafting boys and old men to fight a last stand against Uncle Joe in Berlin.

And it cost the Red Army dearly to take Berlin, imagine how much worse the entire country of Japan would`ve been if *Berlin* was that hard.
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Male 427
"Yeah we did use the Bomb in WW2, that`s right, because we didn`t want to go on an extended 2-4 yr backpacking tour of Japan (you folks included of course) losing even more lives digging them out of every mountain and cave on the Island in a land invasion. "
Because showing the destructive power of the A-Bomb by blowing up an uninhabited area clearly wasn`t enough.
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Male 1,920
"they have more nukes than anyone and to date are the only country to use them on innocent civilian population."

North Korea has recently threatened South Korea with final destruction, and has released two videos depicting the US being attacked by nuclear weapons. They are also working with Iran to develop their nuclear program. Although the US may have more nukes than anyone else, we have only used them twice in 70 years.

Japan may have had a civilian population, but by no means were they innocent. The Japanese people have committed some of the worst (un)documented crimes against humanity of any country on earth.
Look up the rape of Nanjing, or
(Do not click if you are squeamish, you have been warned -->) Unit 731 makes the Germans look like amateurs.
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Female 2,228
Yeah we did use the Bomb in WW2, that`s right, because we didn`t want to go on an extended 2-4 yr backpacking tour of Japan (you folks included of course) losing even more lives digging them out of every mountain and cave on the Island in a land invasion.

There was collateral damage sure, but war is hell, and you make the hard decisions that will end it as soon as possible.

Furthermore I believe no one wants any of NK`s neighbors to be the target of a nuke strike, and ditto if they have their sights on our West coast. Other than that, we could care less about them, they have more of a problem feeding themselves let alone executing any deeply, profoundly stupid nuclear writing of checks their a$$es can`t cash.
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Male 3,463
@tedgp and @piperfawn:
The person with the biggest and/or most guns makes the rules in war.
I`m not saying I agree with it, or disagree with you, but that is how war works. The winning side makes the rules because the winning side can back themselves up.

The only way to really change the US`s tactics is if someone with bigger toys come into play, but because the US can make the rules, they won`t let them happen. And why should they?
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Male 6,706
Sadly the Nuke as it stands right now is what keeps the peace. Just the idea that we have thousands of country wiping bombs keeps people in check from the crazies. Problem is as technology becomes more accessible, and whatnot it`s an eventuality that people you don`t want getting it will in fact get it.

You have to hope cooler heads will prevail.
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Male 5,081
tedgp i agree, in fact is really strange that the country with more nukes in the world and the only country that have used atomic bombs on people is against the other nations that have it,oh not against all,USA is blind with Israel that have atomic bomb and that have allways refused international inspections (hmm but they don`t have started a recent war in the middle east just for this reason? Double standards everywhere!!)
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Male 3,285
One thing thats funny is the US are acting all high and mighty except they have more nukes than anyone and to date are the only country to use them on innocent civilian population.
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Male 3,285
That pic would be good except that North Korea has china and russia ready and waiting to back them up should the US carry out their threat of military action against NK.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Even China is getting fed up with North Korea.[/quote]
That`s because China doesn`t want them having the bomb as much as the rest of the world. Also, since it`s pretty much known that NK has been collaborating with Iran to build nukes, it`s not a good sign that they are getting closer. But I doubt China will engage in sanctions, which is the one thing that could actually really hurt NK.
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Male 10,339
I think if North Korea fired on of these, it would never re-enter the atmosphere, and they would be obliterated. China would write them off.
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Male 3,619
come at me bro!
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Male 3,475
The "Sleeping Giant" has been awake since September of 2001.
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Male 500
not quite
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Male 44
Is that the same syndrome the US had when they dropped two of these on Japan? I`d like a re-write thanks.
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Male 3,442
taking a look at hiroshima and nagasaki, i think nukes do a little more damage than that.
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Male 84
lololol
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Male 15,832
piperfawn is absolutely right. The Norks may be a 3rd-rate military power, but let us not forget, al Qaeda was about a 14th-rate power, and look what they pulled off.
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Male 4,893

TheGuySmiley - How does "death to the presidency" fit in to your gods word of peace and love?
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Male 546
@piperfawn

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Male 17,512
Even China is getting fed up with North Korea. The most recent negotiations have been centered on the topic of N.Korean `refugees` should the regime fail. China doesn`t want the refugees and wants guarantees that American troops won`t be stationed on the Yalu River after the collapse.

I believe that`s a good sign from China, that they are willing to negotiate the future.
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Male 2,167
I may not feel a threat from the little guy,but I`d sure sick my dog on him.
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Male 586
@piperfawn "I would not be so presumptious if i were in you."

:/
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Male 5,081
Is all fun and laugh untill they decide to drop a bomb for real over some of your city, maybe in company of China and Russia. I would not be so presumptious if i were in you.
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Male 2,841
When we annex canada smiley your death shall be quick and painless.
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Male 4,014
It`s also about pride, and I have to give them that.
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Male 37,826
I don`t get it...

But I sure am glad @kitteh9 puts a LINKY in there for us!
Unlike... SOME people...

So Thanks @kitteh9!

Woah! 800 comments about this at his DeviantArt page...
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Male 2,440
"Come at me, bro."
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Male 10,855
Yep pretty much sums it up.
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Male 1,243
nice try but most of the world already knows that the big feet resembles the world`s #1 terrorist regime.

It would be sad to live in that nation and be unable to stand up, like the rest of the world, and chant "DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!"

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Female 8,044
Link: North Korea Explained [Pic] [Rate Link] - They may be on to something with that LMS thing.
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