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46 Responses to Joe Biden Shows His Knowledge Of Gun Laws

  1. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 7:56 am
    Link: Joe Biden Shows His Knowledge Of Gun Laws - Good thing he isn`t in charge of making laws for them......
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:00 am
    Joe Biden seems like he is stoned or something.
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    chicagojay Male 40-49
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:11 am
    Yeah, just fire into the woods whenever you hear something. Go team Obama
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:11 am
    I`m a DE resident...have been all my life and just to make it clear. I never once voted for this clown. It`s not my fault.
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    chicagojay Male 40-49
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:11 am
    Or perhaps into the air? Only assault rifles have mean bullets that fall to earth.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:24 am
    All you need is a double barrel shotgun cause people don`t work in groups larger than two ROFL!! WOW!
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    Canoas Male 18-29
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:27 am
    I only watched the first video, but how is that stupid? That seems pretty reasonable to me, at least much more reasonable than owning assault rifles.
  8. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:39 am
    @Canoas

    In DE firing your gun off on your property can be considered a felony. Define "assualt rifle" assualt is an action not an object all guns can be used in assualt. Having these people make laws for guns is laws putting someone who`s never held a drivers license or driven a car in charge of making traffic laws.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:45 am

    You don`t need a gun. Just buy a tiger.
    Make sure it`s hungry when you let it out at
    night to patrol your property.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:49 am
    Gerry`s got it. And if you need the tiger to attack just point him in the direction of the bad guys with your laser pointer!
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 22, 2013 at 8:54 am
    Well Assault Rifles are already illegal, Canoas. What you consider an assault rifle is essentially a low-calibre, high capacity hunting rifle made of plastic. But you could never hunt with them, the bullets are too weak to take down most animals that aren`t rabbits.
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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 9:00 am
    What he`s saying and advocating is actually against the law where I live.
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    lt633c Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 9:23 am
    This guy is a gaff machine. Keep talkin Joe.
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    lt633c Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 9:33 am
    @Canoas
    "I only watched the first video, but how is that stupid? That seems pretty reasonable to me, at least much more reasonable than owning assault rifles."

    You hear a noise outside and start indiscriminatly blowing off shot gun rounds in your neighborhood ? You really think THAT"S safer ? It is in fact a crime to do what Biden decribed. I`m glad I don`t live anywhere near you.
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    klaxor Male 18-29
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    February 22, 2013 at 10:44 am
    did any one hear the voice of the guy sitting next to him. lol. He`s so whiny and nervous. Biden just looks like he wants to laugh at him when he talks
  16. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 10:49 am
    "Sherrif" Joe Biden is an idiot. Just like Dan Quail, he`s there for comedy relief.

    He IS IN FACT the guy Obama "put in charge" of new gun laws. An idiot is in charge, and this is how little he knows on the subject.

    The police are "outgunned"? By whom? By CRIMINALS! So taking away guns from law-abiding citizens will solve this problem?

    Shotguns are used in more crimes than "assault-style weapons" are.

    Firing shotguns randomly is Joe Biden`s answer to home invasion? How fast can Jill Biden reload that puppy? Hummm?

    Ever fired a 12 gauge? It packs a kick. It is NOT "easier to use" for many people.

    Second Video: 5:00 What an idiot, fighting a "strawman" and losing!

    8:00 Now he`s just outright lieing. "For the children" = my Aunt Fanny!!
    "You can get by with 10 round clips" Says who? WHO has the right to decide that for law-abiding citizens? Wh
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 11:04 am
    Why are 10 round clips banned in some places?
    Idiot.

    10:00 - 12:00 This long winded diatribe is complete FICTION! It`s what Canada did with our "long rifle registration" which cost billions and did NOTHING to solve or prevent crimes. BILLIONS! 10X or 20X more for the USA, eh? And it did absolutely ZERO, nothing, zip, nada.

    He even admits: There is NO DATA to support his claims.

    12:00 More "strawmen".

    14:00 More outright lies. That killer used PISTOLS and the AR-15 was in the trunk of his car. Either 2 or 4 pistols, which were stolen, which would not be "prevented" by more anti-gun laws.

    16:00 Wait, didn`t he just say the laws would NOT take guns away? Didn`t he JUST SAY that criminals used stolen guns? He cannot even get the simplest "facts" straight, he just follows one lie with another...

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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 11:13 am
    I`m generally in support of the White House`s gun proposals, but I don`t think he articulated his point very well. Anyway, the reason to ban large clips is because people like Jared Loughner and Kip Kinkel were only stopped because they paused to reload. Laughner had a 33 round magazine on a handgun. A woman managed to grab the magazine when he tried to reload. Kip Kinkel got off 48 rounds from his rifle and was subdued by students when he tried to reload. Both those incidents could have been less severe had he been subdued earlier. I truly do not understand the opposition to magazine restrictions. When is the last time you saw a police officer with a 33 round clip in his handgun?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 11:17 am
    18:00 Armed Guards in schools:
    First he says they`re bad. Then he says "school resource officers" (ARMED poilce) should be at the descretion of LOCAL schools.
    But a minute ago, he was demanding "universal Federal Laws" about gun control!

    So: Armed Guards = BAD!
    Armed Cops = Good!
    Local authorities should NOT be in charge.
    Local authorities SHOULD be in charge!

    Plain as day! Easy as Pi!

    18:00 That`s NOT the question Joe... Oh you can "get to them" quickly can you? Lolz!
    >In Canada the laws say you have to store guns in one locked safe, and the ammo in a DIFFERENT locked safe... true fact!

    22:00 Blasting posts with shotguns? Idiot.
    23:45 Now THAT is an obvious LIE! Complete crap, pants on fire!
    I can`t watch any more...
  20. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 11:28 am
    When is the last time you saw a police officer with a 33 round clip in his handgun?

    You don`t because they hold magazines. That and they make steadying a pistol harder because of weight alogn with being able to holster it. You will though see police with 17 or so round magazines and Ar-15 with 30 round ones.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 11:48 am
    "You don`t because they hold magazines. That and they make steadying a pistol harder because of weight alogn with being able to holster it. You will though see police with 17 or so round magazines and Ar-15 with 30 round ones."

    Right, and that`s my point. I don`t know if anyone remembers the North Hollywood bank robbery from the 90s, but the police had to raid a local gun store to stop the two robbers, who severely outgunned them.

    Why should a civilian ever use a 33 round clip? You`re just going to reload at the target range when your smaller clip is spent. Are we going to allow large clips just because you find it cathartic to shoot 33 rounds continuously?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 22, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    FoolsPrussia. Firstly, it takes almost no time to reload a glock, or a similar weapon.


    And most of the opposition to magazine limits is the sheer inability to regulate something that is not very intricate. Where before it would pretty easy to get your hands on a black market magazine, you can now make it in your garage.

    http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/145664-3d-printed-30-round-ar-magazine-brings-us-ever-closer-to-a-fully-3d-printed-gun


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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 22, 2013 at 12:07 pm
    And when the technology is there, you will be able to 3D print an entire fully automatic assault rifle - which are currently illegal.
  24. Profile photo of DromEd
    DromEd Male 40-49
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    February 22, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    FP ....Are we going to allow large clips just because you find it cathartic to shoot 33 rounds continuously?

    No. We allow large magazines (get it right) because we live in a free society. Many of us realize that you can`t just trade freedoms for security. Because after a while you`ll look around and you won`t have either. Guns rights are being slowly eroded. We`re trying to draw a line in the sand.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 12:20 pm
    Why should a civilian ever use a 33 round clip? You`re just going to reload at the target range when your smaller clip is spent.

    Criminals don`t always work in small groups. Now the most common defense round for a shotgun is 00 buck. That round holds 8 balls which are about .32 cal. double barrel holds 2 that means about 16 bulletts. Will you be wanting to put capacity limits on shells too? Mr. Biden seems to think it ok to just spary those around.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 12:49 pm
    I don`t know if anyone remembers the North Hollywood bank robbery from the 90s, but the police had to raid a local gun store to stop the two robbers, who severely outgunned them.
    @FoolsPrussia: I sure do! It`s my arguement for LESS "gun control" eh?
    And you know what Police across the USA and Canada did? They bought more modern guns! Six-shot revolvers were replaced by 15-shot semi-automatic pistols.
    (Not ONLY because of that, but it sure motivated them!)

    ANY attempt to regulate or limit LAWFUL citizens is a bad idea. Until the day comes when the criminals also get disarmed? Why shouldn`t law-abiding people be allowed to CHOOSE how to defend themselves? Or what SPORT they choose to participate in?

    I thought "liberals" were "pro-choice" eh?
  27. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    "Firstly, it takes almost no time to reload a glock, or a similar weapon."

    Except this is the exact reason people were able to stop Jared Laughner and Kip Kinkel.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 1:27 pm
    "Guns rights are being slowly eroded. We`re trying to draw a line in the sand."

    Eroded? We had an assault weapons ban that was allowed to expire, and isn`t going to pass again. Sorry, but the freedom argument is a total red herring to me. Nobody is going to ban guns in this country. It will not happen, because the gun is an integral part of American society.

    "Many of us realize that you can`t just trade freedoms for security."

    Except that`s what`s been happening. Choosing to interpret the 2nd amendments as an argument for virtually unlimited weapon choice, rather than a moderate choice based on common sense restrictions, has led to a catastrophic number of firearm deaths in this country, compared to other 1st world nations.
  29. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    By the way, there was an armed civilian present at the Laughner shooting, and he wasn`t able to get a clean shot. Laughner was stopped by an unarmed woman only because he stopped to reload.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 1:33 pm
    "Criminals don`t always work in small groups."

    But I thought you guys said it only takes a second to change magazines. Why can`t you change mags as quickly as the criminals?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 22, 2013 at 1:36 pm
    FoolsPrussia, you make the assumption that those two cherry picked examples wouldn`t have been stopped anyways. And also, how many weren`t stopped while they were reloading? Certainly the Newtown shooter wasn`t despite the fact that he would`ve had to reload numerous times. The Batman shooter - the same thing. Charles Whitman, and so many more. It`s actually SO FEW of shooters that are stopped while reloading. People who have shot guns know this. You press a button with your thumb, the clip drops and you slide the next clip in. With practice, it takes a second.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 22, 2013 at 1:37 pm
    Also - don`t conveniently ignore the 3D printing bit I wrote about. It renders this conversation completely moot. For your convenience:

    http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/145664-3d-printed-30-round-ar-magazine-brings-us-ever-closer-to-a-fully-3d-printed-gun



  33. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    I`m not surprised about the 3D printing thing, unfortunately, though at the moment that`s only accessible by a few people.

    I just don`t understand your points about the mags, though. It just seems absurd to allow people with the intent to harm access to large capacity magazines for the reasons you all have stated. It seems like you guys are advocating for an arms race with criminals.

    Again, if your argument is that limiting capacity doesn`t stop a criminal because it takes 1 second to reload, why can`t an ordinary citizen with a gun reload his magazine in 1 second to put a stop to the criminal?
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    February 22, 2013 at 2:13 pm
    I give up. You really are a fool.
  35. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 2:33 pm
    "I give up. You really are a fool."

    If you don`t want to be challenged on this idea, go to a forum with sycophants. I come here because I expect to get in discussions where everyone is not in agreement.

    If I`m a fool, so area the 52%+ of Americans who want magazine restrictions, and the even higher majorities who want background checks. We`re having a discussion over something that is used to kill. Why wouldn`t you expect that to be a complicated issue with many diverging opinions?
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    February 22, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    if you stand behind an administration which recently supported civilian uprise in egypt and still want to ban `scary guns` you have no idea what the second amendment was about. its not about criminals or hunting game, its about allowing the people to re-take their freedom. and fine, ban scary looking gun parts but i`ll get the dr seuss version with my `high caliber` .223 flying at the same speeds as before.

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    WizardofCOR Male 40-49
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    February 22, 2013 at 3:07 pm
    No, the 2nd is not about "allowing the people to re-take their freedom."
    This is the fallacy that has fooled even the Supreme Court. Research the origins of the 2nd, and you`ll (painfully?) discover that it was penned with the sole intent to prevent slave uprisings in the southern states.
    All your arguments are invalid.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    February 22, 2013 at 3:25 pm
    @WizardofCOR why just the southern sates? i mean slavery was legal in the north as well. and weren`t there only like 2 or 3 `southern states` outta the 13 who signed? anyways, post sources for some of this research so i can become as enlightened as thee.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 3:46 pm
    @FoolsPrussia:
    We had an assault weapons ban that was allowed to expire...
    That`s because it was useless, expensive and did nothing to prevent OR reduce any form of crime.

    rather than a moderate choice based on common sense restrictions...
    NO ONE is disagreeing with that! Restricting machineguns is A-OK! ONLY the gun-grabbers talk about it as if there were a danger of being "open season" on buying nuclear bombs.

    Why can`t you change mags as quickly as the criminals?
    Because criminals who invade your house are prepared? Because unless you have 4-5 clips stored WITH your firearm, it`s not happening?

    Nobody is going to ban guns in this country.
    Liar! Also: WHY even try to "register" them? Look how well that worked in Canada!
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    clownsrcool Male 13-17
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    February 22, 2013 at 4:47 pm
    Biden is wrong because either:
    1)The shotgun is more powerful than the AR-15 in which case why only ban AR-15s and not shotguns.

    2)The shotgun and the AR-15 have the same destructive capacity in which case why bother banning either of them. Or,

    3)The AR-15 is indeed, as Biden says, harder to use and aim than the shotgun, in which case why ban the shot gun at all?

    @WizardofCOR That is a specious argument. If you actually did your research you would have found that the the constitution was penned after a major event called the "American Revolution", you may have heard of it. They wanted people to have the power to revolt in case of an oppressive government like the one imposed on them by the British.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    February 22, 2013 at 5:13 pm
    FP....If I`m a fool, so area the 52%+ of Americans who want magazine restrictions, and the even higher majorities who want background checks.


    Just because I share my country with other idiots who think like you doesn`t mean I have to like it. You`re, of course, entitled to your opinion and have every right to argue it.



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    Armus Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 5:59 pm
    I was only listening, and I thought the interviewer was a woman!
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    RedOnTheHead Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 6:13 pm
    He tells her "Honey you just fire that shotgun and every secret service agent within earshot will be there in seconds"."And if they aren`t you probably just shot them because there shouldn`t be anyone but them out there in the first place".
    As for us regular citizens shooting indicriminately like that will get you arrested.
    Why would you tell your wife to empty her shotgun without a target? Now she has to reload under duress.
    If he thinks shotguns are easier for a woman to handle than an AR15 why did he advocate women in combat?
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    VicAginal Male 30-39
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    February 22, 2013 at 7:10 pm
    Typical Democrat. They are self-righteous, hypocritical idiots. Unfortunately, Obama`s Downs Syndrome makes Biden look like a genius.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 22, 2013 at 7:37 pm
    If I`m a fool, so area the 52%+ of Americans who want magazine restrictions, and the even higher majorities who want background checks.
    @FoolsPrussia: 75% of Americans believe in "aliens from outer space".
    And 84% believe JFK was killed by MULTIPLE shooters. NOT a "lone gunman". NOT the "Warren Commision Report".

    Did you have a point to make? Thought not...
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    djwajda Male 40-49
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    February 23, 2013 at 6:57 pm
    I`m sorry. I don`t care if you`re a liberal or a conservative you should be VERY scared at the fact that this guy takes over if something happens to the president.

    I`m a gun owner. I do support registration and background checks. But that is not the whole problem. Mental healthcare in this country has declined at a terrible rate. Sure they talk about it but it needs to be pushed to the forefront and be worried about just as much if not more than the gun control laws they`re salivating over.

    I have a 12 yr old nephew. He is prone to violence and has pulled knives on people. His mother is pretty much a worthless cause. But when the police are called and he`s hauled to the hospital, he`s released shortly thereafter as if nothing happened. Sadly I can see him becoming very dangerous in the coming years if something isn`t done to keep him and similar people hospitalized to protect public safety.

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