James Yeager Threatens To Kill Over Gun Control

Submitted by: FoolsPrussia 4 years ago in

Mr. Yeager is the CEO of a tactical training company.
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Male 108
what an ass
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Male 3,745
keith2: c`mon man the kids are battle hardened too. what do you think CoD is for?
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Male 2,521
Wow. This is an old ass story.
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Male 2,868
@keith2- While I agree that armed civilians wouldn`t stand a chance against the military, an armed populace still works as a counterbalance against armed government power. Over the last 12 years, we`ve seen a significant erosion of our civil rights via the Patriot Act, the Homeland Security Act, the NDAA, the Obama Administration`s unilateral declaration that the President of the US has the right to order the assassination of American Citizens with no judicial or legislative oversight, etc. Were the US population ever fully disarmed (despite what many gun owners fear, I don`t envision that happening any time soon), I can guarantee that law enforcement agencies, from the FBI all the way down to city PDs, would suddenly become far bolder in their willingness to trample our rights- in the name of national security, of course. And no, I don`t own a gun myself.
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Male 6,227
@Keith2: Yeah, I`ve got to agree with you there. Not too long ago I read a piece by an Army Ranger who was discussing what chance these backyard wannabe warriors would have against the U.S. military. He made several great points, the first being that the moment a group of citizens take up arms and start attacking our government, they become "enemy combatants" and most trained U.S. military would not have a problem mobilizing against them. All of his other points were contrasts between those who train, day after day, 40 hours a week, as a team, to kill in combat versus overweight guys with paunches who spend the occasional weekend on a paintball course. Not much of a contest, really.
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Male 2,592
I don`t care if every man woman and child has an AK-47.. the population still would not stand a chance against our battle-trained military. Keep and bear arms to protect against our government? Come on now, you`re tripping.
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Male 2,163
Here`s the deal- your taxes are going up. "They" are taking away your guns. One actually happened. But no ones talking about the taxes. Perfect plan really. Now don`t think about elephants and we`re good.
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Male 459
I keep asking and asking, yet no-one has been able to give me a clear answer, exactly WHO is this guy intending to kill if these changes come about? HE can`t even be specific, "I`m gonna start killing people" I just can`t begin to understand who these people think they`re going to be fighting. I`m assuming that the ATF would probably be responsible for confiscating an individuals firearms if ordered to do so? So are ATF agents going to be the ones targeted?
He claims that Obama`s proposed safety measures are going to start another civil war, Others are threatening revolution. I ask AGAIN, against who? The pro-control side are just going to decide to pick up weapons to enforce an initiative that intends to prevent gun violence? That makes no sense. Or is it this other fantasy of the police and military turning mindlessly on their own citizens and destroying their own families, friends and communities as soon as they`re ordered to by the `government`
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Male 4,893

Open carry does not require a permit. I don`t think it`s allowed in some states though. I do know in Washington state one can openly carry a pistol or even rifle with no permit.
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Male 6,227
@Gerry: Great point re: a driver`s license and rants. A few thoughts, related and otherwise:

1. It`s pretty clear to me that the only reason gun ownership isn`t regarded as a privilege and doesn`t require a permit is because of the 2nd Amendment. (Bear with me, people: I`m thinking a lot of this through for the first time.)

2. Considering that it`s the right to "bear" mentioned in the amendment, and not the right to "own" them, it`s a little surprising that the government has been able to classify carrying arms a privilege with a revocable permit. (Is the permit required only for concealed carrying? What about open carrying? Someone help me out here, please.)

3. In terms of your example, Gerry, I suppose the difference is largely due to the fact that guns are designed to kill, while cars aren`t.
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Male 6,227
@Turdburglar: No issues; I thought you were making fun in a good way and it made me laugh. I totally got the "The More You Know" allusion from your first post, with the ASCII shooting star.
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Male 4,893

Squrilz - here is an example to jog your memory.

The More You Know
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Male 4,893

I wasn`t making fun. Besides, I`m half liberal.
Don`t you remember those commercials from back in the day? They would have a celebrity briefly speak about drugs or something, then at the end it would say "the more you know" with a star moving across the screen and a little jingle.
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Male 38,468

Let`s change the weapon of choice.
If he had been cut off by bicycle road hogs {we all hate them!} what if he said, "I swear if one more damn bicycle cuts me off I`m just gonna hit the gas and run him down."

Would you take away his driving permit?
No? Why not? Is it obvious he just ranting and doesn`t mean it or is the threat just too vague?
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Male 6,227
@Issame: I never meant to imply that driving *isn`t* a privilege. I was just contrasting driving privileges with the right to bear arms and coming to an understanding of why we have driver`s licenses but not gun owner licenses.
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Female 112
Technically speaking, driving *is* a privilege. That`s one of the first things you LEARN when going through Driver`s Ed.

The scary State doesn`t threaten to take away your license unless you`re, you know, *breaking the law*.
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Male 6,227
@Turdburglar: LOL. Yeah, yeah, yeah: make fun of the liberal. =^.^=
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Male 4,893

The more you know! ---------*
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Male 6,227
@Turdburglar: Good to know. So I guess driving is considered a "privilege," which is why you have to have a driver`s license, and the state can threaten to take away your "driving privileges"--whereas gun ownership is considered a right because it`s in the 2nd Amendment. Carrying a weapon, however, is considered a privilege, I guess. Interesting stuff.
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Male 4,893

Squrilz - Gun ownership in America is not a privilege, it`s a right. There is no permit required to simply own a rifle or pistol. There are permits required for concealed carry of a pistol and to own certain weapons, like full auto for example.
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Male 6,227
@FoolsPrussia: Thanks. Good info.
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Male 3,445
"My point is some gov`ment clerk or even a cop should not be able to take away anyones rights just `cause they can."

His permit was taken away by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security, but he`s allowed to have the decision reviewed in court.

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Male 6,227
@Gerry: Again, interesting points. And I`m about to agree with you that a judge should make the call on whether a citizen should have his gun rights revoked in such a case. But I wonder if it`s because a permit to have guns is considered a privilege by the authorities and the granting of the permission is contingent on responsible behavior? Ergo, you do something stupid, you`ve given up the right, ipso facto? I really don`t know; I`m just wondering what the legal issues are here.

Do you even have to have a permit to own a gun? Or is it just to carry? Help me out, people.

Also, I`m assuming this guy`s guns were taken, not just that his permits were rescinded. Does anyone know? (Sorry; I`m feeling too lazy to Google this at the moment... no coffee or tea yet.)
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Male 38,468

Okay, the guys a jerk.
My point is some gov`ment clerk or even a cop should not be able to take away anyones rights just `cause they can.

Rights should not be taken away unless you are convicted of a crime. Not justs because you were a rude jerk.

If he did make "terroristic threats" then let a judge decide. Not a gov`ment clerk
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Female 1,236
Macho poser.
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Male 4,893

I gotta agree with gerry on this one. Well mostly. I agree with all the points gerry made, but...He did say he was going to start killing people. And he did post it online. Just a bit too far. I`m not sure were the line should be set, but I think this guy just inched over it by posting this on youtube. On the other hand there is such a thing as free speech, and we don`t want to give the gov`ment an easy excuse to take our rights.
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Male 6,227
@Crakjak: It seems to me that if responsible gun owners want to preserve their existing rights, they should be falling over each other to condemn Mr. Yeager for his irresponsible rant and not defending him.
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Male 3,445
"You think the gov`ment should take away peoples rights anytime someone spouts off? Anytime they say something you or the gov`ment don`t approve of?"

He said: "If it goes one inch further, I`m going to start killing people."

Imagine a scenario in which this guy doesn`t have his permits taken away and actually does snap and kill people, like the ex-LAPD officer is doing now. People would look at this video and ask their government why they didn`t take action. What if one of his 62,000+ subscribers listens to this and starts killing people?

As the old saying goes, you have freedom of speech but you can`t scream fire in a crowded theater.
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Male 6,227
@Gerry: Hmmmmm. I see your points but have to disagree. Anytime someone with a lot of guns broadcasts a message that he`s on the verge of "happily" killing people with those guns, for whatever reason, I think it`s time for the authorities to step in and remove those guns.

I know if this guy was a neighbor of mine and I`d seen this diatribe of his, I would`ve wanted them to.

Perhaps this guy misspoke in a moment of idiocy. But words have consequences, especially words like these.
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Male 38,468

[quote]"...and you think there`s a problem in revoking his permits? Shame on you, man. That`s a seriously disappointing attitude." [/quote]
First of all, the guy`s stupid & mouthed off in an idiotic way. But yep I do have a problem with taking away his permits. His "threats" while stupidly put, were no worse really than anyone else who says "There should be another revolution". People get hurt in revolutions, but if you don`t specifically point that out it`s okay and bad if you do point that out. In essence he said "We shold fight back against the government. I am prepared to fight"

You think the gov`ment should take away peoples rights anytime someone spouts off? Anytime they say something you or the gov`ment don`t approve of?

THAT is a seriously disapointing attitude.
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Male 3,445
"BS, It`s not paranoia if they are actually out to get you. No one should be able to take your God given rights away. Once a government starts taking rights away, they won`t stop. That`s how tyranny starts and I wouldn`t blame him for upholding his rights."

It clearly is paranoia. The guy is obviously ignorant. He said they were going to use executive privilege to bypass Congress on the Assault Weapons Ban, which is not at all what the situation is. It`s one thing to try to defend your freedoms, but he`s little more than a conspiracy nut.

It`s pretty sad that you`re defending a guy who reacted to misinformation by threatening to kill people.
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Male 17,512
"A defiantly future paranoid mass murderer in the making."

BS, It`s not paranoia if they are actually out to get you. No one should be able to take your God given rights away. Once a government starts taking rights away, they won`t stop. That`s how tyranny starts and I wouldn`t blame him for upholding his rights.
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Male 978
this guy just doesn`t wanna lose money
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Male 5,874
Shaved head, sort of goatee-beard, tattoos, knows howdah hold a gurn, phew! This guy looks bad. He should be in the next fast and furious movie.
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Male 76
Ok after I made a comment here I decided to check this guy out. I see no military service record on his web site. A lot of police jobs and private security jobs in Iraq and military training jobs which he left due to problems or got fired from. Dirty Harry wanabe, as someone said. Yes his life revolves around guns and being a bad ass. A defiantly future paranoid mass murderer in the making.
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Male 76
Not surprised by this. Remember people kill guns don`t. Free speech is great and I would fight for that right always, but this is just plain stupidity.
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Male 176
Gerry - you have a bigger problem with a government revoking the permits of someone who`s publicly threatening to kill people than you do with the person making the threats?

So far as I can find, he wasn`t given a jail sentence, he wasn`t submitted to a supervision order - he just got told off and had his gun permits revoked. This is a man who said he`s willing to kill just because he might have to fill in a bit more paperwork to get more guns (because lets face it - that`s really all any new gun control measures are likely to mean in practise), and you think there`s a problem in revoking his permits?

Shame on you, man. That`s a seriously disappointing attitude.
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Male 284
His daughter won later won the coveted sharpshooter award at the Sunny Times Day Care Center.
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Male 38,468

[quote]"His permits were almost immediately revoked and he has already submitted a formal apology." [/quote]
I have a bigger problem with that than the idiotic comments he made.
So, if you say {in essence} "if the government pushes me too far I will fight back" then they can take away your permits? The gov`ment can herass you into retracting your comments? Isn`t there another guarantee about free speach? Nothing says it has to be intelligent speach.

For the record, If the gov`ment pushes me too far I WILL FIGHT BACK.
Now, take away my permit. See if that gets rid of the guns you don`t know about.
{did I say that out loud?}
D`OH!
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Male 7,775
Gotcha! All you Dirty Harry wannabees that spout off and try to hide behind some 200+ year old musket law are a joke. This "normal" guy that you all profess to be is finally showing your true colours. It`s not about losing your rights at all, you just don`t want to lose the chance to kill people.
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Male 334
In the netherlands there is a cynical/sarcastic organization that spreads thougths ..

One of the best ones i ever seen is losely translating into this

Would everyone that would like to die for their country please do so now..

ok, for the rest of us, lets think how to make things better.
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Male 216
Lol its PRECISELY because of people like James Yeager that more gun control is needed, if u ask me piss him and he will gladly masacre anyone who gets in his way and since he has weapons at his disposal... way to go James! great way to contribute!
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Male 72
I think the only guns citizens should be allowed to have are the ones that were around when the bill of rights was written. Seems fair. No one can argue that your rights are taken away. You want a gun powder rifle, be my guest.
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Male 174
What a baby, boo hoo, doesn`t get his way...
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Male 4,395
This was actually pretty shocking to hear... a month ago. Come on Mods pick it up. And where was the News F-bomb bloopers? That was the funniest thing I have seen on here, well in the the Live Submissions where it was ignored.
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Male 6,227
@McThstlpnts: Don`t know if I`ve mentioned it before, but you have an awesome avatar pic.
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Male 6,227
@FoolsPrussia: I`m glad you posted the link to the original video. And I`m relieved to hear this crackpot had his permits revoked.

I`m still trying to figure out where I stand on gun control. Both sides have valid points, and what`s at stake either way is critical: either the lives of innocents or the right of citizens.

But regarding this video in particular: One problem I have with allowing individuals to collect military-style guns is that it increases delusional thinking. Guns can be a powerful narcotic for those with paramilitary fantasies. A guy like this with no guns walks around muttering. A guy like this who spends years building up a collection of weapons and who spends his free time fondling his ammunition gets more and more delusional, to the point that he posts a video proclaiming that if things change "just one inch further" he`s going to be "happy" to "start killing people."

My two cents.
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Female 1,540
Wow...this is old. And this nut is from my state. His permits were almost immediately revoked and he has already submitted a formal apology. Like that changes anything..
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Male 646
perfectly reasonable.

did he tattoo cigarette butts on his arms?
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Male 3,445
Not only did you guys take almost a full month to post this video after I submitted it, you gave him time to edit the worst part out. Here is the rest, where he says he`s going to start killing people.
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Male 37,762
He`s a kook. Both sides have them.

It "autoplays" all 100 of his videos? LOLZ! NTY!
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Male 38,468

"Get your backpack,make sure there is some food in it and get ready to fight!"

Not the most inspiring call-to-arms. In the past it seemed
much more adventurous and romantic.

"I know not what course others may take, but as for me, Give me liberty or Give me death!" - Patrick Henry
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Male 7,775
doesn`t play
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Male 3,745
THIS IS WHY YOU CANT HAVE NICE THINGS.
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Male 886
old
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Male 3,445
Wow...I submitted this aaaaaages ago.
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Male 3,445
Link: James Yeager Threatens To Kill Over Gun Control [Rate Link] - Mr. Yeager is the CEO of a tactical training company.
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