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Date: 02/07/13 12:25 PM

98 Responses to Ex-Cop Declares War On LAPD & Allegedly Shoots 3

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
    8033 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 12:26 pm
    Link: Ex-Cop Declares War On LAPD & Allegedly Shoots 3 - Christopher Dorner, fired from the LAPD, takes revenge. His Manifesto is in the credits link. He is armed & on the loose
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
    886 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 12:49 pm
    Rogue.
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    Tacos4Brkfst Male 18-29
    620 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 12:50 pm
    Inb4 macguffen.
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    Zed68 Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2013 at 1:06 pm
    What ? he shot cops ? Aren`t they supposed to be armed and able to response to an agression ??? (pro guns, your turn)
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    February 7, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    I don`t doubt that a lot of his accusations are true. However, he undermines his point by going all Charles Bronson on everyone.
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7421 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 1:09 pm
    Ok- well, one wonders how much of what he says is true- and it certainly bears close scrutiny. Poor man, I cannot see this ending well
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    tbored Male 30-39
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    February 7, 2013 at 1:21 pm
    post his manifest


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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    February 7, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    tbored it`s already linked in the credits or you can click here to read it
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    Tacos4Brkfst Male 18-29
    620 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    Welp
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    He`s Non-White, Non-Christian, Pro-Hilary Clinton, Pro-Obama, Pro-Gun Control.

    The MSM will doubtlessly let everyone know these facts... :rolleyes:

    He`s bug-ship crazy, lets make more laws!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    What ? he shot cops ? Aren`t they supposed to be armed and able to response to an agression ??? (pro guns, your turn)

    They`re going to be watch what happens to this guy.

    Now did he kill people who supposedly had something to do with with this story or just random?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    He doesn`t like Hispanics, Lesbians, or Asians.

    And apparently doesn`t like the LAPD either...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    @Tacos4Brkfst: That`s an amazing news item! The cops blasted 2 chinese ladies delivering newspapers, THEN some other cops rammed a truck and shot at it AT THE SAME SCENE!

    @MacGovern: He targeted the woman, and also shot her fiance. She`s the daughter of a retired cop on his "hit list".

    I think I`ll even watch CNN to see what`s going on...

    CNN News Item
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    @5Cats

    Then that`s a nutcase bring out the "assualt weapons."
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    He`s Non-White, Non-Christian, Pro-Hilary Clinton, Pro-Obama, Pro-Gun Control.

    Yet he says he owns a .50 cal and anti aircraft missles ROFL!!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 7, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    "Yet he says he owns a .50 cal and anti aircraft missles "
    Pussy!
    I`ve got a Sonic Death Ray!
    Shhhhhhhh! Don`t tell anyone.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2013 at 2:52 pm
    You would think a guy who has seen and experienced as much discrimination as him could learn from others and be a more accepting person. Sadly it sounds like he is more bigoted than what comes at him.
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    llaa Male 30-39
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    February 7, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    Here`s his real facebook manifesto. Any others out there I believe are false distortions.

    manifesto
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    Canoas Male 18-29
    427 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    "What ? he shot cops ? Aren`t they supposed to be armed and able to response to an agression ??? (pro guns, your turn)"

    No one can stop bullets. Anyone can pull out a gun and kill a cop when they`re not expecting, that`s why normal people shouldn`t have guns in the first place.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    "He`s Non-White, Non-Christian, Pro-Hilary Clinton, Pro-Obama, Pro-Gun Control."

    Why do you have to embellish so much? What is up with the consistent partisan lies? This dishonesty is beneath you.

    Pro-Obama: Neither Barack or Obama are mentioned in his "manifesto". Neither is Democrat or liberal, or Republican or conservative for that matter.

    Pro-Hilary Clinton: Hilary`s name is not mentioned. Neither is her husbands.

    Pro-Gun Control: No mention of this either. Only uses the word gun once as in gunships.

    That leaves a black guy who hates Christianity because of the relentless bigotry he experienced in a Christian Elementary School. Again I ask what is up with the constant partisan lies?
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    Slotherder Male 30-39
    251 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 3:19 pm
    Even if what he said in that novella of a twisted logic self denial were true, he has still reacted in an absolutely insane manner. Mental health in this country really needs to be addressed. I find it hard to believe that none in the military or police force noticed anything peculiar about him. A man who believes it well within his rights to strike physically in retaliation for verbal abuse (don`t mistake that as making light of verbal abuse, because I`m not), or to threaten people`s families for what individuals may/may not have done is clearly a bully, and beyond that, not sane. Maybe I`m just that naive, but I personally think it`s because people would rather just not think about it.
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    InTheNameOf Male 30-39
    335 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 3:53 pm
    @markust123

    I often have the same thought concerning the israel-palestine conflict. I guess the golden rule really is "do unto others as has been done to you".
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 4:21 pm
    @markust: as expected: The MSM has "selectively edited" their "version" of the manifesto to REMOVE those things you claim are not in it.
    I`m not pretending to have a "1st draft copy" or something, but EDITING NEWS TO FIT THEIR BIAS has been going on for a long time now in the MSM. Remember the "he`s black" recording? Selectively edited to make Zimmerman look like a bigot? And 100 other examples.

    @iiaa`s Link To The Manifesto Thanks! The UN-EDITED Manifesto, eh?

    He Also Hates George Zimmerman and loves AC Cooper & Piers Morgan...

    Breitbart`s Coverage Yeah, yeah, you HATE Breitbart, I know already
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 4:29 pm
    Whoops! It seems like @iiaa`s link WAS edited! Or at least shortened. Ah, it`s a "redacted" version at the request of the police (one presumes). It`s supposed to be 14 pages (iirc from CNN`s report)

    Link to the whole thing

    He also sent a "package" to AC Cooper on Feb.1? They`re talking about it on CNN a lot.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 4:35 pm
    @MacGovern: You nut! Your big stupid picture is screwing up this page!
    Not only making it look funny, but hard to load & such as well...

    FIX FIX FIX!
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
    1268 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 4:40 pm
    I`m not going to read his story. Not that interested really. All that said, I`ve mentioned it here time and time before, civilian work place is fraking bizarre in relation to years in the military. Not "Imma go kill these mofos for this poo" bizarre, but I`m not gonna lie and say I haven`t imagined how I`d discretely disappear some of the people I`ve come across since I joined the civvy workforce.

    So much I consider common sense responses to what one should take responsibility for and how they should do that most out "here" would just be annoyed I`d suggest such a consequence. Again, not going to read his story, but honestly, I doubt he thinks that much differently than I. Actions are clearly another story.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 4:52 pm
    "As expected: The MSM has "selectively edited" their "version" of the manifesto to REMOVE those things you claim are not in it.
    I`m not pretending to have a "1st draft copy" or something, but EDITING NEWS TO FIT THEIR BIAS has been going on for a long time now in the MSM. Remember the "he`s black" recording? Selectively edited to make Zimmerman look like a bigot? And 100 other examples."

    Fox News has the same MSM "selectivly edited" version. It amazes me how you believe every conservative lie and spin you read. You are the most gullible person I have ever encountered. The problem is you are so partisan that you will believe anything that fits your narrative. But the funny thing is it isn`t even your narrative it is what you have been
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 4:56 pm
    ...brainwashed to believe.
  29. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:04 pm
    Pro-Obama

    Admiration in the advancement of race relations does not necessarily make him pro-Obama. Heck seems to me Bush Jr never really left office.

    He doesn`t like Hispanics, Lesbians, or Asians.

    Hispanics: He was complaining about Hispanic officers who (allegedly) harass other members of their own ethnicity who happen to be immigrants.

    Lesbians: with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officer. .
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:05 pm
    Lesbians (cont...) It`s time to allow gay service member`s spouses to utilize the same benefits that all heterosexual dependents are eligible for. Medical, Dental, Tricare, Deers, SGLI, BX, Commissary, Milstar, MWR, etc. Flag officers, lets be honest. You can`t really give a valid argument to as why gays shouldn`t be eligible as every month a new state enacts laws that allow same sex marriage.

    LGBT community and supporters, the same way you have the right to voice your opinion on acceptance of gay marriage, Chick Fil-A has a right to voice their beliefs as well. That`s what makes America so great. Freedom of expression. Don`t be non-nice individuals and boycott/degrade their business and customers who patronize the locations. They make some damn good chicken! Vandalizing (graffiti) their locations does not help any cause.

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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2013 at 5:06 pm
    Asians: Complaints about Asian officers who don`t say a word about the "alleged" abuses of other officers.

    I agree with markust, next time try reading before you start spouting neocon nonsense 5Cats.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:07 pm
    I quoted:

    with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officer

    The FULL sentence:

    Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:11 pm
    Uncensored Manifesto

    @markust: If the police (or FBI, or whomever) ASKED FOX to not publish the last part of the manifesto? And they complied, does that make the last part NOT EXIST?
    It DOES exist! AC Cooper mentions it! Parts of other news reports have commented on it`s content!
    It`s a rambling "shout out" to people he likes, hates, talks about movies & TV... Bill Cosby is mentioned in the final paragraph.

    So I`m "wrong" for reading the whole thing, and you`re "right" for believing ONLY the "approved part" of it? FFS man...

    Unless you believe that many "right wing blogs" (and CNN) have INVENTED the closing part out of whole cloth? And the police are just letting it slide? Riiiiight...
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2013 at 5:11 pm
    On the other hand, the manifesto does demonstrate he is pro gun control AND that his rage is directed at the LAPD.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm
    @cajun: He`s also a fan of George HW Bush (sr) and calls him the 2nd greatest President...

    It`s in the part that @markust thinks doesn`t exist...

    He says nasty things about Asians, Hispanics, Lesbians, sounds like "hate" to me! Of course he IS bat-ship crazy, so you expect his "manifesto" to make sense? NOT!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:19 pm
    More On AC Cooper`s Package Stop snickering!

    AND the fact that the media IS CLEARLY redacting the "manifesto"...

    Also: A lot of "left-wing nutjobs" are in support of this guy! There`s crazy idiots on BOTH sides of the coin, eh?

    (see, there`s a coin in the linked story, with bullet holes in it...)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:19 pm
    One more post and we can push @MacGovern`s stupid picture OFF the page! Yay!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2013 at 5:21 pm
    Asians, Hispanics, Lesbians, sounds like "hate" to me

    Which was directed at COPS not members of the general public.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:30 pm
    "Hillary Clinton. You`ll make one hell of a president in 2016."
    "Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You`re the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary."
    "Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you`re a vile and inhumane piece of poo."
    "Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work..."
    "Revoke the citizenship of Fareed Zakaria and deport him."
    "Dave Brubeck`s "Take Fiveâ" is the greatest piece of music ever, period."
    "Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the drating speed limit posted or get off the road!!!"

    & etc... Only with cuss words...
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:32 pm
    "If the police (or FBI, or whomever) ASKED FOX to not publish the last part of the manifesto? And they complied, does that make the last part NOT EXIST?"

    Your gullibility astounds me to no end. Where are you reading that the police asked Fox not to print the last part of the manifesto? Why would they even do that? You would think they would ask them to not print the parts about how bad their officers are. Is where you read it as reputable as your last link to Davey D`s Hip Hop Corner? Yes, that is where everyone gets their reliable news. What are your other links? Soopermexican? Yes another replicable source. Oh yes and Breitbart. They`ve never been caught spinning their stories. The day you stop even trusting Fox News is the day we are in for some bat sh*t crazy things to come from you.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:34 pm
    @Cajun: Yeah, true enough, directed at Cops. But still: bat-ship insane, yes?

    Read the WHOLE manifesto! He likes Ellen Degeneres! lolz! Thinks gays should have equal rights & stuff...

    "If possible, I want my brain preserved for science/research to study the effects of severe depression on an individual’s brain."

    Riiiiight...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 7, 2013 at 5:38 pm
    @markust: So there`s a "vast, right wing conspiracy" involved? Riiiiight!

    And I`M crazy?

    (hint: Hillary Clinton is the origionator of the "vast right wing conspiracy" regarding Bill`s affair with Jennifer Flowers. Which was aimed at fellow Democrats. Which was in fact true! He DID keep her as a mistress for about a decade! Thus it`s a way of saying "you`re delusional" ok?)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:40 pm
    So Anderson Cooper`s refering to being mentioned in the manifesto, along with several other CNN persons, IS PART OF THE CONSPIRACY!

    It`s all clear to me now!

    "Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it`s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”"
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:44 pm
    "And I`M crazy?"

    Let`s see who is crazy, you who believes that this extended manifesto is the real one even though the reputable news sources won`t touch it (including Fox News)? You who wants to believe it so bad that you won`t consider how absurd it is? You who wants to believe it so bad you won`t even question it? Or me who is questioning the validity of it because it doesn`t pass even the initial smell test. Sorry but all signs point to you.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    Maybe I am crazy. I`m arguing with someone that gets their news from Breitbart. I`m going to go do something useful.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:48 pm
    Here`s Fox News for you @markust!

    And Twitchy

    And Annonymous too!

    Alrighty? YOU have "rushed to judgement" and believed in the "11-page" story without question.
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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
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    February 7, 2013 at 5:49 pm
    Wow, read the whole thing except the full shoutouts section. Interesting, interesting.

    Sounds like a person who was bullied/pushed/picked on all his life (but isn`t outright saying so), tried doing a career because he thought he `could make a difference` and it all just backfired on him.

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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2013 at 5:53 pm
    My Fox LA is not Fox News you moron. How do you know they didn`t just rush out the fake one by mistake?

    Twitchy? Really?

    youranonnews? Again, really?

    I can`t do this anymore.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 5:58 pm
    @markust: Time is on MY side bro! It will all come out in the wash.
    Unless ALL those people, blggers, news outlets & etc were "fooled" and never once bothered to view the source mterial? Yeah, right.

    And you`ve ingnored AC Cooper`s refering to it.

    I`m NOT blaming news outlets for "redacting" it! If they were asked to? Then they should! All those people mentioned have nothing to do with the case. However, it should have been clearly noted that it WAS redacted, both for content (remove swear words) and LENGTH.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2013 at 7:14 pm
    Wow. Is this the real John Rambo? This would have been an awesome movie, can`t believe it`s real. I started off feeling bad for the guy who went from metaphorically being 9 years old to realizing what a big bad world it is in a matter of months instead of the normal 2 or 3 decades. but slowly started losing me and when he threatened to kill children I made a 180.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 7, 2013 at 7:49 pm
    Here`s Another Article which references the "fake" part of the manifesto.

    @paperduck: He`s finding Lots Of Support out there. Personally, I think he`s so insane that anyone who supports him will be infected too...
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    February 7, 2013 at 8:14 pm
    Can you libs even IMAGINE what you would be saying if he had instead sung the praises of Bill O`Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Fox News? I doubt that you have the intellectual honesty even to ask yourselves that question, let alone to post an honest answer to it.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2013 at 9:40 pm
    TMZ? Jesus Christ 5Cats. Is that all you could come up with after two hours?

    I would be asking the same questions OldOllie if Madest had made the opposite partisan statements that 5Cats had. I would have done a quick search on actual news sites and found none of his words. I`d be asking how come Foxnews.com, CNN.com and MSNBC.com all have the same manifesto without the added shout-outs, and I would be asking why he could only find his version on partisan blogs. My suspicions would be the same that someone took some other thing this asshat wrote and added it to the end to make a fake manifesto to introduce politics into a story that has nothing to do with politics. It`s the kind of BS partisan Blogs do to get clicks, and idiots like you and 5Cats eat it up.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2013 at 10:06 pm
    "Can you libs even IMAGINE what you would be saying if he had instead sung the praises of Bill O`Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Fox News?"

    In the fake manifest the partisan blogs are pushing there is great praise for President Bush, "The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency. You were always one of my favorite Presidents (2nd favorite). I hope your health improves greatly. You are the epitome of an American and service to country." The guy is a nut but he doesn`t sound like a partisan nut like you guys. He praises both sides.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2013 at 10:24 pm
    so he snapped, however, see both sides, he surely has his reasons. if nothing else in his own mind. however. the LAPD has many flaws as well. i simply find it an example of what happens when things go ignored and bottled up inside for too long.

    as to the whole political derping out in here, you´re starting to resemble the misguided rabble i saw in africa a few years back. funny labels and overzealous support for them, but poo all clue what they actually stand for or do beyond that it somehow made promises catering to your personal short sighted interests.
    perhaps it`s time to look at whether your parties are actually going to fix the world, or whether you can somehow personally contribute to it without dividing society further with your squabbling.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    February 7, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    This has nothing to do with politics or gun control. You guys are nuts.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2013 at 11:13 pm
    nice trolling turdburglar...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2013 at 6:01 am
    *whoops resized my bad!

    @Zed68

    Now tell me how your police don`t have guns....



    Mp5s nice choice they shoot about 800 rounds a min.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 6:19 am
    markust123-"You would think a guy who has seen and experienced as much discrimination"

    or has been told his entire life to `always remember you`re a victim`.

    5Cats-"If possible, I want my brain preserved for science"

    I`m sure it`ll be possible...after they scrape it up off of the floor & walls.

    It`s useless 5Cats, markust will never admit that the complete manifesto is `real` as it doesn`t support his position.

    Even when it all comes out, he`ll never admit it. He`ll just claim it was `planted`.

    Here ya go markust:
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 8:35 am
    "It`s useless 5Cats, markust will never admit that the complete manifesto is `real` as it doesn`t support his position."

    My position? My position is it doesn`t pass even the basic smell test. That is why I did a quick search on the major news sites. I`m not a purveyor of lies like you guys. I actual question things that don`t sound right. If it is proved to be true and then major news sites start posting it in full I would absolutely admit I was wrong. I`m not talking about video clips of them mentioning it I want to see them actually posting the long version on their news sites. Fox News has had days to correct the problem. Huh, same one still as the other two have.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 9:03 am
    Here`s an example of how partisan blogs lie to you. It turns out "The Sandy Hook Father Owns Congress" does not have a daughter in Sandy Hook. His kid goes to Reed Intermediate School. See the father`s update at the bottom of this article. But why would the blog that posted the video state the truth when they could get more hits by putting a blatant lie in the title. There are actually two lies in the title. He wasn`t addressing congress, he was addressing a working group public hearing at the Connecticut State Capitol. I admit I fell for it.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2013 at 9:15 am

    collegebound - I wasn`t trolling. I just don`t see how this has anything to do with politics or gun control. Both repubs and democrats... whether for or against gun control, everyone can agree he is nuts. It doesn`t matter how the media is reporting the news, and it doesn`t matter whether the crazy man is left or right...he is just a crazy ex cop.

    5cats turns ANYTHING into a political left wing conspiracy, and for some reason markust is taking the bait and feeling butt-hurt (that wasn`t a gay joke). Then there is McGovern. I assume he has given up on changing anybody`s opinion, so he just torments the gun control crowd and lefty europeans (which I find hilarious).

    Yes, that WAS trolling.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 9:27 am
    Not butt-hurt turdburglar. Just bored, so I Fact check the partisan lies. I`m also probably trying to fill a social void - I work from home so I don`t get a lot of interaction during the day. I should probably find a more positive outlet to do this.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Wow that was a fast response markust. I was just thinking about what I just posted and thought the butt-hurt comment was a bit too far, so I came back to delete that part. Since you have already seen it I will just apologize. Sorry.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 8, 2013 at 9:49 am
    Is that all you could come up with after two hours?
    @markust: Um, yeah? If the "normal media" is only printing (for now!) the shortened version? Then YEAH only "non-normal" media will carry the entire thing. De facto!

    Again, there seems to be a valid reason to NOT publish the 14+ pages of nonsense. It`s not a conspiracy or anything. No real reason for all those people to have their names associated with this idiot, ok?

    After all is said and done, then the "whole manifesto" will be revealed.
    To claim it`s a "vast right wing conspiracy" by biased bloggers passes your "smell test" @markust? Amazing.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 10:10 am
    Didn`t take offense at all turdburglar. Thought it was funny.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 10:14 am
    I`m going to take Turdburglar`s advice and ignore your bait 5Cats, although it is a bit late.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2013 at 11:00 am
    turdburglar: i kind of figured you weren`t trolling. the thing is the media will turn this in a way so that everyone is all "see? we do/don`t need our guns for when people get all batshiz cray cray on us."

    people are just stupid like that.

    for a gun law i propose this:

    got a mental illness? cant buy guns. simple as that. any and everyone applying for a gun licence should be made to submit mental health records and then take some kinda of moral/psychological test before they can even get their licence. anyone without said licence would then have their guns taken, fined, become a registered "gun offender", and probably spend a month or 2 in jail.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2013 at 11:06 am
    Then there is McGovern. I assume he has given up on changing anybody`s opinion, so he just torments the gun control crowd and lefty europeans (which I find hilarious).

    Oh yes control mongers!!!!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 8, 2013 at 11:16 am
    @collegebound: They`ve had a law like that in Canada for decades now: If you use a firearm in a crime? You get 1 year in jail, manditory!
    Know how often it`s been used? 3 times.
    Prosicutors ALWAYS plea-bargain it away, they`re worried it`s "unconstitutional" and could be challenged if they enforce it.

    SO: We have a "tough on gun crime" law that`s NEVER enforced. How does THAT do us any good?

    Same thing happening in the USA right now: a rush to pass "gun laws" that #1 won`t DO anything and #2 will cost a lot of money.

    This has spilled over from the Joe Biden post, lolz!

    I`m not trying to troll you @markust, your claim that I`m "falling for false news" (or something) is just... odd.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 11:25 am
    markust123-"That is why I did a quick search on the major news sites."

    And THAT is part of the problem.

    That`s like someone telling your `The Onion is a satire-based website`, and you going immediately to The Onion and saying ,`No, it`s America`s finest News Source...it says so right on the website.`

    You take the fact that the MSM didn`t list the entire manifesto as `fact` that any information that they don`t post does not exist.

    You probably think that Zimmerman actually said "This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black."

    After all, that`s what NBC TOLD you he said.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    February 8, 2013 at 12:39 pm
    All the people in San Bernardino County should immediately turn in their guns so they`ll be safe.
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    SoCal Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2013 at 1:19 pm
    Two people got shot up down the street from me by the police (in Torrance) Im more afraid of the police than some big fat niggr.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 1:34 pm
    @MeGrendel, "You take the fact that the MSM didn`t list the entire manifesto as `fact` that any information that they don`t post does not exist."

    Oh my god you made me laugh so hard I almost spit coffee all over my MacBook. The conservative propaganda machine has you spun so tight you don`t know what you`re supposed to say anymore. One of the three sites I saw the actual manifesto on was Foxnews.com. I guess you better email Fox and tell them to quit calling all the other media MSM because according to you they are now the MSM. It`s going to be pretty hard for them to sell their sensationalism if they do that though.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 2:19 pm
    markust123-"One of the three sites I saw the actual manifesto on was Foxnews.com."

    And your point is? Did I say that I exempted Fox News? Did I say I was a fan of Fox News.

    I was pointing out that YOU were pointing to omission of content on only a few sites as proof of non-existance.

    You`re goint to look like even more a fool that you already do when the entire manifesto is a matter of record.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2013 at 3:44 pm
    "You`re goint to look like even more a fool that you already do when the entire manifesto is a matter of record."

    I`m going to look like a fool because the partisan blogs actually got something right without spinning it???? I think the look I would have is of shock.

    Anyone who reads partisan blogs (on the left or the right) is a parrot who spews angry bits of misinformation.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 8, 2013 at 6:30 pm
    @markust: Please link a story reporting that the "extra" 14 pages are fakes.

    That is all.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    February 9, 2013 at 7:19 am
    There are four pages of commentary in this thread, and ain`t nobody got time for that. Would anyone care to summarise the viewpoints that have been expressed to date?

    Tbh, what popped into my head when I first heard this story was that dialog from Reservoir Dogs that goes:

    "You kill anybody?", "A few cops.", "No real people?", "No, just cops.".

    As long as they keep their arguments to themselves, I couldn`t care less what American cops do. A majority of them have a predilection for psychotic violence and bullying from what I can tell, which if directed inwardly can only be a good thing. It`s when they decide to abuse teenagers, women and black citizens I start to give a toss. Not until.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 9, 2013 at 9:11 am
    @MacGuffin: The killer targeted the daughter of a retired cop (who he held a grudge against) and also killed her fiance.
    He shot at 4 cops on 2 occasions, killing 1 and wounding 2.
    Thus the 3 murders he`s accused of.

    His "manifesto" was put up on his FaceBook page. Some say it`s 24 pages but most Media are only posting 11 pages at this time.

    So @markust says it`s a "vast right wing conspiracy" and the extra 13 pages are FAKE. I say that the extra pages name lots of people who have nothing to do with the case and the police probably ASKED the Media to not publish it at this time.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    February 9, 2013 at 9:51 am
    @5Cats: Thanks.

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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 9, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    Oh look, another failure at life has been turned
    into a media superstar. He`s on the cable news
    channels all day long! His photo is on TV and he
    is the star of his own reality show "Police Hunt".
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    PTPete Female 30-39
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    February 9, 2013 at 12:27 pm
    He is targeting the families of officers he believes failed him when he was fired from the LAPD. The young woman he killed in Irvine, along w/ her fiancee, was the daughter of a retired police Captain who had also been his Union representative at the time he was fired. Sadly enough, from what I read of his original case, it is plausible that he was wrongfully terminated from the police force. On the other hand, it`s wonderful that this nut-job is no longer a cop.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 12:50 pm
    Let me de-spin what 5Cats said MacGuffin. There is an 11 page manifesto that the media is presenting (including Foxnews.com). There are also numerous extended versions that the partisan blogs are pushing to turn the story into a political issue when the story has nothing to do with politics. I was merely questioning the authenticity of the different blog versions. What makes more sense that Foxnews.com would not print something that makes the guy look like a liberal nut or that the partisan blogs are combining two to three different things this guy wrote to push their point of view?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    February 9, 2013 at 1:01 pm
    @markust: tbh, I`m about as upset about this as if Saddam Hussein`s cat had been shytting in Adolf Hitler`s flowerbeds.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    Disgusting isn`t it Gerry. Todays sensational news is the core of what causes mass shootings. I`m surprised it took this long for someone to pull a Rambo.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 1:08 pm
    "I`m about as upset about this as if Saddam Hussein`s cat had been shytting in Adolf Hitler`s flowerbeds."

    Upset? Why would you be upset at what I wrote? I was just pointing out the manipulative nature of partisan blogs. The misinformation that is parroted from their readers daily is mind numbing.
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    djwajda Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    Hmmmm...well, Yahoo news is now printing `excerpts` today that don`t appear in the version as linked to in this posting so I might suggest as it`s been said earlier here to wait and see what more comes out before rushing to judgement on 5cats or anyone else.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    February 9, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    Upset? Why would you be upset at what I wrote? I was just pointing out the manipulative nature of partisan blogs. The misinformation that is parroted from their readers daily is mind numbing.

    By "this" I meant "this story", not your opinion of this story. I am as upset by this story as I would be about Joseph Stalin`s kid accidentally breaking George Bush`s greehouse window with a mis-kicked football.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    "By "this" I meant "this story", not your opinion of this story. I am as upset by this story as I would be about Joseph Stalin`s kid accidentally breaking George Bush`s greehouse window with a mis-kicked football."

    That is good. I was good I was confused by your response. Love the metaphors
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 1:35 pm
    "Hmmmm...well, Yahoo news is now printing `excerpts` today that don`t appear in the version as linked to in this posting so I might suggest as it`s been said earlier here to wait and see what more comes out before rushing to judgement on 5cats or anyone else."

    Yes that is good advice, lets all just take the "reporting" in partisan blogs at face value. What a wonderful world of misinformation that would make.

    Is this what you were looking on Yahoo News? It`s an Atlantic Wire story and in it the manifesto they point to is from the reputable news source Boy With Grenade.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    It looks like myFOXla has a new update that sounds like their full version is real, "NOTE: At the request of the Los Angeles Police Department, FOX 11 has removed all names mentioned in this manifesto for their safety. Also note that we have redacted some offensive language contained within this statement." Not exactly the claim people are making on here that the police asked them not to publish the whole manifesto but I am man enough to admit when I am wrong. The partisan blogs got one right without spinning it. You can imagine my surprise.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 9, 2013 at 2:04 pm
    Thank you @djwajda! It is my opinion that @markust has mistakenly "rushed to judgement" on this issue of manifesto length.

    Yahoo News Quotes It right at the end.

    Another Posting Of The UN-edited Manifesto

    It seems perfectly reasonable and logical that the police (or FBI, or whomever) ASKED that the second half of the manifesto NOT be made public yet, since it names dozens of people who are in NO WAY related to the case.

    @markust seems to believe that FoxNews would never comply with such a request? Riiiight.
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    djwajda Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 2:09 pm
    First off no that was not the link.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/suspected-gunmans-manifesto-tim-tebow-charlie-sheen-everything-092019548.html

    Secondly, the advice I gave had nothing to do with believing anything at face value although that is exactly what you were doing @markust123 by claiming that the other versions were not real when in fact you don`t know that to be sure just as 5cats does not know for sure that they are. As I stated, let everything come out before you jump all over a person.

    Personally I don`t care what is or isn`t in his manifesto. If indeed his accusations are true then LAPD has alot to answer for. And I really don`t care what his political affiliations are. However for someone wanting to have their name `cleared` to go around killing people doesn`t make sense...period.
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    djwajda Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    And as usual I show up late because I couldn`t find the darn link again, lol.

    Honestly, it doesn`t matter what they decide to publish or not publish as alot of it could have to do with the investigation and people`s privacy. As I said what he is doing right now is wrong no matter what has happened previously.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    February 9, 2013 at 2:23 pm
    Well that`s cool @markust! (we cross-posted there, eh?)

    "No worries mate!" (it`s one of my favorite expressions)

    Now I hope they catch this guy before he hurts anyone else. I think we can all agree on that!

    @djwajda: I couldn`t find your link (the Yahoo Tim Tebow one) sorry. I did find the story it origionates from on FoxSports... but it`s redundant now.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2013 at 2:40 pm
    "No worries mate!" (it`s one of my favorite expressions)

    Mine too except I just say, No worries.
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    robthelurker Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2013 at 7:06 pm
    murder is wrong, its as simple as that, but i understand what this man is trying to do. i do not agree with what he is doing, but if we want change, we need to actually do something about it instead of standing around like idiots choking on tear gas.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 7:42 am
    People like rob that seemingly justify what this man is trying to do are strange. Killing the daughter of somebody who wronged you 5 years ago is not productive in anything except for egotistical revenge.

    Normally, Hitler comparisons are misplaced, but in this case I think it`s absolutely appropriate. "What Hitler was doing was wrong, its as simple as that, but i understand what he was trying to do." That`s how ridiculous you sound. Hitler and Stalin certainly had his supporters in Western countries, I guess this would be a modern version of one.

    Hopefully, he froze to death on that mountain.

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