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96 Responses to Christopher Dorner Manifesto (Uncensored)

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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 9:45 am
    Link: Christopher Dorner Manifesto (Uncensored) - For those of us that are just too damn curious.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 9:51 am
    He`s all over the place.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 9:59 am
    TL:DR
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:05 am

    For those who don`t have the time to read the whole thing, let me summarize;

    "I am a nut bag and this is the rantings of how I justify killing people I don`t like and people I`ve never met. They made me do it."
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    Burton_Ian Male 18-29
    817 posts
    February 10, 2013 at 10:12 am
    That is a WHOLE lotta crazy.... He goes from simply telling his story, to pseudo-intellectual political analysis, to his final goodbyes (which I found to be MOST bizarre). Here are a couple of gems:
    - "It’s kind of sad I won’t be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy."
    - "Revoke the citizenship of Fareed Zakaria and deport him."
    - "The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency."
    - "Ellen Degeneres, continue your excellent contribution to entertaining America..."
    - "Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game."
    - "John and Ken from KFI, never mute your facts and personal opinions."
    - "Anthony Bourdain, you’re a modern renaissance man who epitomizes the saying `too cool for school.`"
    - Cyclist, I have no pro
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    Burton_Ian Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:14 am
    ha it cut off the last one, which I thought was the funniest... "Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you.... Livestrong you fraudulent non-nice individuals."
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    peakingo Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:19 am
    gerry, couldn`t agree more. So they guy wrote injustice happened and half the internet is supporting his vigilantism.

    Lots of people died because of him, no one died because of what the LAPD did to him.

    F him and his lunacy.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:19 am
    Well, that was weird. He manages to get in "Keep Calm and Chive On" (KCCO) and a shout-out to Bill Cosby. ~scratches head~
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:20 am
    Isn`t it interesting how one paragraph is lucid and concise, and the next is crazy ramblings. Either he has a split personality, or two different people wrote it.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:22 am
    Hey, but you`ve gotta hand it to him: He`s doing a *great* job of clearing his name.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Mind you the cops aren`t much more sane than this guy.
    They thought he had a blue pick up so two cops see a blue pickup and start shooting. put over 40 rounds in the truck.

    One minor problem, that guy wasn`t in the truck. It was 2 hispanic women.

    D`OH!
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:25 am
    i don`t support the decision he made at all in shooting those 3 people. like i put in the description "For those of us that are just too damn curious."
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:27 am
    Gerry: you forgot to mention that they were only supposed to be doing surveillance on said truck because it LOOKED like his.

    i like how nobody else has looked at this as a hit list.
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    FaulknA Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:32 am
    Seems fairly written to me. A little long and obviously a little unhinged but frankly, he has a point. You can only take so many lies before something has to give. I don`t agree with his actions but I believe that he has a legit beef. That`s one drated up organization that he worked for.
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    SephirothA83 Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:33 am
    TLDR
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:52 am
    This is a crappy manifesto, for those who like to see inside of crazy heads and that sort of stuff: read unabombers manifesto. That was good.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2013 at 11:58 am
    This guy is the reason the 2nd Amendment exists. So we can defend ourselves against violent, lunatic left-wing nutjobs like him.
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7421 posts
    February 10, 2013 at 12:05 pm
    Poor man, I assume he has disappeared for the second- he has not cropped up on the news for a bit. It always seems so sad when people blow a fuse like this - one wonders if anyone could have helped had they intervened.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 12:28 pm
    A strange combination of high morality - reporting a superior officer for brutality, for example - mixed with with something he doesn`t tell us (I can`t imagine that report alone got him fired) and a fanatic, insane logic that says killing innocents is the way to regain his reputation. The book that comes out of this could be interesting reading.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    @collegebound: Actually, the LAPD is protecting around 20(?) people at the moment who are on that list.
    The cops who shot the truck were in fact protecting someone`s house, a "stakeout" eh? When a truck rolled up with no lights on and stopped? OPEN FIRE!!
    No Warnings From Police now a 71 year-old is in hospital after being shot in the back!

    Then other cops got a "shots fired" report, and when they got near the scene (which was these ladies gettting shot at by LAPD!) they rammed a different truck and opened fire on it too!

    Mistaken Identity Oh, the irony!
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    February 10, 2013 at 12:45 pm
    Murderer - check,
    Writes a manifesto - check.

    If it turns out he has an aptitude for maths I`m going to check whether anyone has ever actually seen him and Ted Kaczynski in the same room together at the same time.

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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    February 10, 2013 at 12:46 pm
    @AvatardJohn: "Left-wing"? This is happening because he`s pissed about all the hateful stuff he`s seen towards black people. What makes you think he`s not a conservative? oh wait........never mind.
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    zeebeedee Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 12:50 pm
    The Devil made made me do it.
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    STEVE032 Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 12:54 pm
    @AvatarJohn: "This guy is the reason the 2nd Amendment exists. So we can defend ourselves against violent, lunatic left-wing nutjobs like him."

    Although he states: "All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers."
    Look at what he`s been able to accomplish so far, against armed officers, nonetheless. Everything`s been done with the same poo you have the possibility of aquiring. Good luck "defending" yourself.

    He`s not after just anyone. Just those, and those close to them, who have wronged not him, but the code&oath they swore, just as he had, to adhere to. He`s seen the need for change and after exhausting all means, resorted to this. Look at the subject of his letter. This isn`t some fly off the handle/no precursor/no reason-type of event.

    If you label him a "lunatic left-wing nutjob," I label you a god damn idiot.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    As usual, no one picks up the fact that the LAPD is still corrupt, just that HE must be wrong.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    Why do Europeans say "maths". "Math" is an all encompassing term for anything that has to do with operation of numbers. Why pluralize it?
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    5Cats: im sure that the LAPD and other law enforcement officials have recognized that the manifest is also a hit list. that comment was more directed to the I-A-B community because i was surprised that no one else had brought that up.

    as for the truck, as i stated, they were only supposed to be doing surveillance im willing to bet anything that they never gave them a warning before opening fire. im sure they would have gladly stepped out of the truck. also how does ANYONE other than LL Cool J look like Christopher? have you not seen his picture? the guy is drating huge.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    I think the guy`s nucking futs! What I don`t get is all the Facebook pages that popped up and are supporting him, calling him a "vigilante." If it`s true that he has concrete proof of police corruption and is trying to expose it, he lost the title of vigilante when he killed 2 innocent people who had no involvement aside from the fact that one was the daughter of the man who represented him at the hearing when he was fired. He also threatened to kill the families of the supposed "crooked cops" who wronged him, he`s not a vigilante, he`s a f*cking murderer.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2013 at 1:40 pm

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    sawadee Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    Here`s how I see it. He may be correct that he was totally screwed over. He may be also be correct that LAPD has serious ethics problems. All utterly irrelevant however. Nothing that is wrong with LAPD should in anyway be looked at or changed because of this lunatic. He is a terrorist, pure and simple. He killed an innocent couple because the woman was merely related to someone he has a beef with. People who are supporting this scumbag are indeed deluded. Stupid too. Very very stupid. Its like supporting al queda because you think the US did bad things in the middle east. So sure, go ahead and kill thousands who had nothing to do with your particular grudge. Same goes for this guy. He has rendered himself totally insignificant and someone of NO value who has absolutely NOTHING to say of any consequence whatsoever . Hope he dies very very soon. Oh, and if it matters to anyone, I consider myself VERY Liberal. A leftie as it were. Even against capital punishment. This is self defense.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 2:26 pm
    "Its like supporting al queda because you think the US did bad things in the middle east."

    we went to war with them over oil :|

    now i don`t necessarily support them but i don`t think that particular argument really works here...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    It`s almost 3 p.m. here.
    Is this all we get posted today?
    One about a double Dog Rescue and
    one about a mad dog killer

    Fancy taking Sundays off?
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    klaxor Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 3:07 pm
    "Its like supporting al queda because you think the US did bad things in the middle east."

    I get it. It`s like invading Afghanistan, even though alQaeda is mostly Saudi....oh wait, b/c Osama was in Pakistan.....Oh wait.... How about invading Iraq because..... :-?

    Kidding aside, do you think these ppl ever stop halfway through their belligerent manifestos and think "Wow this sounds f`ing crazy", or at least, "I should probably leave this out"...
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 3:13 pm
    "Kidding aside, do you think these ppl ever stop halfway through their belligerent manifestos and think `Wow this sounds f`ing crazy`, or at least, `I should probably leave this out`..."

    why would he? he knows (or at least he doesn`t plan on it.) that he wont be getting out of this alive anyway...
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    mikelae18 Male 18-29
    79 posts
    February 10, 2013 at 3:18 pm
    When Dorner is writing about the racist treatment of The President: "You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama." I got a chuckle.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    And you guys think the stuff I write here is crazy!

    You all owe me, McGuffin & CrakrJak an apology.

    @ Crakr, see! I included you with the crazies `cause I didn`t want you to feel left out.
    You`re welcome.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    February 10, 2013 at 3:43 pm
    This stuff is well writen and coming from an articulate person. I thought it would wreak of insanity but it does not. Hollywood must be drooling over this. This man... I don`t know...could be a legend? A real JESUS with guns? Imagine that? Just saying but WOW! Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction? WOW!

    P.S. I usually leave a job or relationship when it is not going in my favour. I think he may be Duke Nuke-em in real life? Balls of steel?
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
    509 posts
    February 10, 2013 at 4:11 pm
    This is how super villians are created...
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm
    r66tramp: Okay settle down there sport...
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 10, 2013 at 5:04 pm
    carmium-" high morality - reporting a superior officer for brutality"

    That`s if it actually occurred. The other option was he went into job with an agenda to begin with, which makes him crap. (based on his actions, I doubt `high-moral fiber` was involved)

    carmium-"Just those, and those close to them, who have wronged not him, but the code&oath they swore:"

    Or he`s a crazy nut-job that has imagined many slights and `broken honor` because he`s lived his life as a `victim`.

    Don`t make a hero out of him. He`s the exact opposite of that. He didn`t go after someone that did the system wrong. He went after the INNOCENT FAMILY of someone he doesn`t like.

    r66tramp-"I think he may be Duke Nuke-em in real life?"

    If, by that, you mean `a made-up bit of fantasy`, I can see that. If you think he`s anything approaching a hero, you`re an unbelievable idiot.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Here`s a photo of the truck the cops shot up that WASN`T him.
    But it is so easy to mistake two latinas for one black male.
    Natural mistake anyone could`a made, right?

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    klaxor Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 5:37 pm
    "why would he? he knows (or at least he doesn`t plan on it.) that he wont be getting out of this alive anyway..."

    - But then why write it in the first place. He knows that his justification is the only thing he has left.

    He had the time to write this ridiculously long manifesto, you would think that he would have taken the time to look it over and take out all the crazy
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    I would say this guy has successfully manipulated
    the LAPD & media into turning him into the SUPERSTAR
    he wanted to be. In that regard it`s a total WIN for
    him. Well done LAPD - your usual quality work!


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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 10, 2013 at 5:55 pm
    Gerry1of1-"Natural mistake anyone could`a made, right?"

    Obviously a mistake, and heads should roll. I hope the ladies are okay, and I doubt they will have to worry about medical bills.

    BUT, there ARE extenuating circumstances:
    Nervous cops (and public) looking for similar truck.
    Truck appearing near protected individual, not driving like a truck normally drives (delivering papers).
    Judging by the tinting, visual ID would have been very difficult.

    None of this excuses what happened, but did contribute to the outcome.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 6:42 pm
    MeGrendel:
    I did NOT post anything about "Just those, and those close to them, who..." As a matter of fact, I wonder if you really read my whole post.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    February 10, 2013 at 7:10 pm
    This man will be immortalized! He WILL be revered by many. If you think otherwise, if you think I am blowing smoke up yer arse...you need to learn how to read, you need to understand mainstream culture.

    I don`t want `it` to be. I do not wish `it`. I do not condone the actions of this person but I promise you this: this man will be the stuff of legends!

    If you chappy`s think otherwise, then shove yer heads into sand. This man is my specialty. I know what the prick is doing. Down to a t.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    February 10, 2013 at 7:41 pm
    The only way you can make this dude succumb is to beg on yer knees for forgivness. Strong words, very strong words must be delivered to yeild guilt. They won`t do it. They will never admit their mistakes. Therefore, He will never stop until he`s dead. It is against the man`s will but he feels his hand has been forced to execute with force. ABC 123. Get it yet?
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    aroc91 Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 8:58 pm
    From what I`ve read elsewhere, the celebrity shoutouts and whatnot at the end are all fake. It`s claimed that the original copy merely ends at "briefs and tabletops,"
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    r66tramp - here`s the Chris Dorner Fan Club on FaceBook.
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    lt633c Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 9:58 pm
    This is a very complicated story. On one hand, it should have been a red flag for the LAPD that he physically assaulted one of his fellow recruits for the words that were said. Offensive to a black man, yes obviously. Dealt with by choking the guy, wishing he could shoot the two offensive classmates. And then there`s the complaint filed against his training officer Evens. Out of all the situations they were in together, and all of the claims he could have brought against her, it`s interesting that his allegations matched that of the arrestee who complained about being kicked. Sounds like it happened.
    This guy was trouble from the beginning. Yes, it was a "kangaroo court" that got him bounced out of the LAPD, but to then murder innocent people? And shoot at other cops that had nothing to do with the case against him ?
    LAPD sounds like it has some serious problems, but this is not the solution. He`s not a hero; he won`t be revered; he`ll just end up a dead murderer.
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    CurlybackJoe Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 10:14 pm
    Crashes every time I click the link.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2013 at 11:16 pm
    His Facebook fan page is scary. Only 8,000 right now, though. Sociopaths.
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    lt633c Male 50-59
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    February 10, 2013 at 11:36 pm
    8000 out of 310 million.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2013 at 12:24 am
    Man, that is complicated
    Make a damn good film mind
    `Mr Sammy L Jackson `
    we got a film for ya
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    fancycandy Female 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 12:53 am
    me too curlyback,I`ve tried for two days now to click on it and once his pic comes up w/ the other cop, nothing. Just crashes.
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    Toider Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2013 at 3:10 am
    From what I`ve read elsewhere, the celebrity shoutouts and whatnot at the end are all fake. It`s claimed that the original copy merely ends at "briefs and tabletops,"

    Makes sense. That`s pretty much where it launches into a retarded diatribe. Like this guy even gives a crap about Anonymous to even mention them.
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    tjgvertigo Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2013 at 3:20 am
    This guy is ridiculous. His behavior is absolutely inexcusable in every way, shape and form. He never escalated past using the police forces very broken system of putting peers through the wringer. As soon as he was discharged he should have gotten a lawyer and gone to court and made it a giant multi-media circus/showcase. That would have been more effective. Now he`s got those racist jerks still in the LAPD mad and gotten their families mad and gotten the victims families mad... What`s pathetic is the idiots defending him will consider him a martyr when he inevitably gets shot to death by some gun-toting citizen or a cop who empties a clip into him. It`s going t stir up yet another gun control controversy which is necessary... The solution, to me, is simple. LAPD needs an investigation led by multiple external groups and the FBI needs to hunt down this lunatic and kill him. Choking someone over dropping the N-Bomb is not justified... it`s an example of his unstable mind.
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    fuzzysheep Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2013 at 3:21 am
    @Aubernjunky Because maths is a shortening of mathematics. You wouldn`t say "I study mathematic" so why would you say "I study math"?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 5:05 am
    @fuzzysheep: Because it isn`t Mathsematics.
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    Sistarose Female 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 5:11 am
    Sadly it is all coming across as rather sane. It is a simple agenda to get attention for wrongs of the past. This seems to have been effectively accomplished, no mater how much he is vilified, this can not be undone. The system it would seem is broken to the core.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2013 at 6:15 am
    r66tramp-" he feels his hand has been forced to execute with force."

    BULL! He`s only a victim in his mind, just as he is only a hero in his own mind.

    r66tramp-" It is a simple agenda to get attention for wrongs of the past"

    It would be more accurate in state it for `attention for imagined wrongs of the past`. When you`re raised from a child that you are a `victim` every unpleasantness can be another excuse to be a `victim`.

    The waiter was rude? It must be because I`m black.
    I got a ticket? It must be because I`m black.
    The laundry lost my shirt? It must be because I`m black.
    I stubbed my toe on the chair? It must be because I`m black.

    If the system is wrong, you work to fix it. You DON`T start killing family members of the system. Anyone that see`s this idiot as a `hero` is an idiot and should be incarcerated for the protection of the rest of society.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 6:48 am
    @STEVE032

    So lets make more laws! That seems to be working so well huh?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 6:51 am
    Wow some people are so f**king dumb! He murderes at least 2 people who had nothing to do with it and you go. HE`Z A VIGILANTIE FIGHTING FOR DA WRONGZ DONEZ TO HIMZ!!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 6:52 am
    I DOES DA MATHS!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 6:53 am

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 7:02 am
    Welcome to the scapegoat future. I can`t take responsiblity for my actions and don`t have enough balls to deal with that. I was picked on as a kid it makes my butt hurt WAH WAH! Pretty much everyone was suck it up pussy! Oh we need to ban guns to save lives let me go out a kill people with them to show you! Here`s hoping this waste of oxygen get buckshot point blank to the face.
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    fuzzysheep Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2013 at 7:20 am
    @Auburn, yeah it is. Maths is short for Mathematics. Mathematic is an adjective. Mathematics is a noun for which there is no singular. That`s why it`s weird that Americans shorten it and make it singular.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2013 at 8:20 am
    fuzzysheep-"Mathematics is a noun for which there is no singular."

    `Mathmatics` is not plural. It is a collective noun, so it IS singular. (We do not say `My favorite subject are mathmatics`).
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 8:42 am
    Math is a broad statement of whatever involves calculating numbers and such so why the hell would you pluralize it?!?!?!
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    maxxim Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 8:48 am



    Top: 2nd truck LAPD shot 35 minutes after first.
    Middle: First truck shot
    Bottom: Dorner`s truck
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2013 at 9:03 am
    maxxim-"Top: 2nd truck LAPD shot 35 minutes after first. Middle: First truck shot Bottom: Dorner`s truck"

    The differences are just cosmetic. The black one is obviously an `Assault Truck`. The Blue one probably has an afteramarket `Hand-Grip` Stickshift knob, which changed it into an `Assault Truck`, also. The the Nissan probably had a fuel tank capable of holding more than 7 gallons, so will be outlawed in the new `Assault Truck Ban`.
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    Sistarose Female 30-39
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    February 11, 2013 at 1:44 pm
    MeGrendle, I will clarify two things, I left out qualifiers like perceived and imagined because I was talking about the mans agenda. That would imply that is how he sees them. My comment about the system is broken was referring to the whole system. Not just the Authorities that missed the indicators but also the unstoppable media monster that ensured that his message would get out. Personally I have little feelings for this man. Maybe his first acts were just plain crimes of passion then with no going back, so he chose to commit himself to this course. It does not mater. What I saw when I read the manifesto was someone who had a good idea how to manipulate the system and the system no doubt will respond to this. This will not save him, but it will create a very interesting dynamic.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    February 11, 2013 at 2:32 pm
    MeGrendel: the only way those 3 trucks look the same is that all 3 of them are trucks...
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    handimanner Male 60-69
    2095 posts
    February 11, 2013 at 6:05 pm
    Dorner is right but the retribution is wrong. The cops, lying, screwed with his career but they didn`t put a bullet in his brain, he did that, put a bullet in his own brain by overreacting to a bad situation. He gets his wish, LAPD will reopen the case, then whitewash it again, but he trashed his own name by killing innocents.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 2:57 am
    MeGrendel, I like your comments(and others!), for real! But you are missing the crux. Some of you people lack true depth of character. You can not make this situation into a cut and dry explanation. Your shoe does not fit the foot. This man is not legend in his own mind, this man has been driven to the short hand. His mind, actions and hands are tied(in his view). Can only be stopped with a massive public apology.
    But nothing can be undone...he will be legend despite your view...he already is you fools. Some of you people need to read more.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 3:06 am
    Gerry, you prick! I am not a fan! This guy is a fcukin monster!
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    handmadebeat Male 60-69
    20 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 5:47 am
    Wow LAPD getting a taste of there own..hats off for Christopher Dorner
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 6:15 am
    r66tramp-"this man has been driven to the short hand"

    This man is batpoo crazy. Nothing more.

    r66tramp-"Can only be stopped with a massive public apology. "

    No one owes this man an apology. This man is only owed a bullet to the brain.

    r66tramp-"he already is you fools"

    Yeah, some idiots consider him a hero. Some people consider Honey Boo Boo a hero, too.

    Neither are, but it an extremely sad reflection of our society that some people believe it.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 8:30 am
    "he will be legend despite your view...he already is you fools."

    this. i wish he would just stick to killing the officers who wronged him but it is what it is. there is no need for him to harm anyone other than said individuals just like there is no reason for said officers to have so much hate for other ethnicities. that being said i would like to say again that i do NOT agree with him going after the families of those that he actually has beef with.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 9:00 am
    collegebound-"i do NOT agree with him going after the families of those that he actually has beef with."

    I do not agree with him murdering ANYone, even those he `has a beef with`.

    He has NO justification for his actions.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 12, 2013 at 11:19 am

    @ r66tramp - The only thing in your ramblings that even remotely approaches reality is when you called me a prick.

    An apology to this guy? He`s been driven to the short hand? oy vey

    He`s a nut back. You can`t make sense of it. You can`t get in his mind and find a solution.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 12, 2013 at 11:21 am
    "This man is batpoo crazy. Nothing more."

    He has a persecution complex, believes that he`s not at fault for any of his problems. Rants about gun control when he himself is a `gun nut`. He justifies murders, yet was an officer who took an oath to uphold the law. Claims superior tactical knowledge then gives away his own response plan and includes his knowledge base and skill set.

    My diagnosis would be Manic Depression, possibly PTSD as well.

    He wrecked his own name more than any BOR ever did, when he finally realizes his pride was his downfall he`ll crash hard, perhaps even commit suicide. He`s already got the attention he wanted, but he lost in the court of public opinion.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 11:23 am
    MeGrendel: i dont think it`s the right way to go about things either. but i certainly care a lot less about PoS racist cops dying than their children who (most likely) have nothing to do with it.

    that being said i dont really care at ALL so long as what he is saying is true about said officers and as long as he sticks to THOSE people. he`s doing things the dumb way. i just don`t really care. if he would leave their families alone i would probably even cheer him on.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 11:29 am
    "My diagnosis would be Manic Depression, possibly PTSD as well."

    he says in his manifesto that he suffers from both.

    "He wrecked his own name more than any BOR ever did, when he finally realizes his pride was his downfall he`ll crash hard, perhaps even commit suicide. He`s already got the attention he wanted, but he lost in the court of public opinion."

    he doesn`t care about his pride and if the cops don`t find him before he finishes up his buisness he WILL kill himself if he hasn`t already. again, its in the manifesto that he doesn`t intend on surviving this. as for losing his name, i believe while he may have lost the original meaning of it he HAS created a new meaning for the name Christopher Doner. no matter how this turns out this man has now become somewhat of a demigod. whether or not we/he wanted/wants that to happen or not.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 11:30 am
    CrakrJak-"He has a persecution complex, believes that he`s not at fault for any of his problems. Rants about gun control when he himself is a `gun nut`. He justifies murders, yet was an officer who took an oath to uphold the law. Claims superior tactical knowledge then gives away his own response plan and includes his knowledge base and skill set."

    In otherwords, a liberal.

    collegebound-"i certainly care a lot less about PoS racist cops"

    And yet, you only have the word of a clearly insane individual that they were, in fact, `PoS racist cops.`

    Is that where you usually get your information?

    collegebound-"i would probably even cheer him on."

    Which just demonstrates that you are a sick, ignorant individual.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 11:40 am
    MeGrendel: you missed the part where i said:

    "so long as what he is saying is true about said officers and as long as he sticks to THOSE people."

    and yes i would cheer him on IF IT WAS JUST THOSE OFFICERS AND AGAIN ONLY IF WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THEM IS ACTUALLY TRUE. you see it now right?
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 11:44 am
    MeGrendel: and lets face it. it IS true. we could always ask the individual that he claims was kicked by one of those officers. not even going to try giving an alternative motive for as to why he would do all of thi- OH WAIT THERE ISN`T ONE IS THERE HOLY$HIT
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36217 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    It`s `cause he`s black, isn`t it.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 12:09 pm
    collegebound-"alternative motive for as to why he would do all of thi- OH WAIT THERE ISN`T ONE IS THERE HOLY$HIT"

    Or he could be doing it because he`s just delusional & Bat$hit crazy.

    Just because he`s `getting even` does not equate to him actually being done wrong.

    It`s just as likely that he`s `getting even` because he`s pissed that people saw through his attempt to claim `racism`.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Why do Europeans say "maths". "Math" is an all encompassing term for anything that has to do with operation of numbers. Why pluralize it?

    Surely you mean, `why do European say math?`
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    am i the only one who read the manifesto? there are witnesses and people who have already backed him up.

    "Just because he`s `getting even` does not equate to him actually being done wrong."

    if he was never done wrong in the first place then there is no way he could be getting even then is there? although this does go beyond getting even. he`s said so himself.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 1:19 pm
    collegebound-"if he was never done wrong in the first place then there is no way he could be getting even then is there?"

    I realize this may be a stretch for your intellect, but there is a difference between `thinking` someone did you wrong and someone actually doing you wrong.

    And even if he was actually `done wrong`, accept it that life is not fair, and you can continue on with your life without killing people.

    So infantile people think they`ve been `done wrong` if someone left them only a 18% tip rather than a 20% which they `obviously deserved`.

    Just remember the story Nobody told of the little bird, the cow and the coyote.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 1:30 pm
    `why do European say math?`
    @MacGuffin: Nice one!

    @collegebound: And there`s people and evidence that says he`s wrong! That still is NO excuse for murder, of any kind. Period.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 1:37 pm
    i dont think you guys are getting the part where i`ve BEEN saying that i don`t agree with his actions.

    "...accept it that life is not fair, and you can continue on with your life without killing people."

    that`s what ive been trying to say. i dont care how much i care or dont care about this issue the way he is going about it is wrong.

    "And there`s people and evidence that says he`s wrong! That still is NO excuse for murder, of any kind. Period."

    which is why i ALSO said that IF said officers ARE racist that i would CARE less. not they ARE racists and im GLAD that they got what was coming to them and i HOPE he gets their families.

    you know what? just butt fuq it. lets all agree that this man has anger issues or SOME kind of issues. i wont be coming back to this comment section.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    why do European say math

    Well European is singular where as math covers an entire subject.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 12, 2013 at 2:28 pm
    The cops have him cornered in a cabin in Big Bear, Ca. He shot two of them and the police have now ordered the news helicopters away from the area.

    That last part likely means SWAT is getting ready to storm in and neutralize him.

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