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  1. Profile photo of LittleMissQT
    LittleMissQT Female 18-29
    1275 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 4:48 pm
    Link: Applebees Responds to Fired Server Scandal - The restaurant chain says that waitress, Chelsea Welch, disregarded company policy.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 5:10 pm
    When she originally posted it, if she didn`t mention Applebee`s or the name Applebee`s was not shown in the picture of the receipt, then she didn`t disregard company policy. It just happened to spread like wildfire on the internet and was eventually traced back to them.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33070 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 5:11 pm
    The comments at the link are filled with idiots who haven`t bothered to learn the whole story before shooting their mouths off.

    Rather like IAB! :-)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33070 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 5:14 pm
    @WhoDat: The "Merchant ID" is clealy visible, and identifies Applebees.

    Also, she posted a picture from INSIDE the restaurant, AND identified a customer by name, without permission. Both are firing offences as per their guidelines.

    It also says she "commented on it" which IDK but sounds like she did more than just "post a picture".
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 5:25 pm
    The Merchant ID may be visible but from what I`ve read, it takes a lot more than a simple Google search to look it up. The number is unique to each store and is used by banks and credit card companies to identify that particular business.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33070 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 5:31 pm
    That may be so @WhoDat, but since I have no idea what her origional post consisted of, I just thought I`d mention that.
    She later tried to "edit it out" but it was far too late.
    Anyone with a reciept from the same store? They`d know 100% which one it was, eh?

    IDK what her post and comments were, she might have directly (or indirectly) let people know it was Applebee`s that way too.

    Anyhow, it`s not like she went TO JAIL or something! Waiters & waitresses get fired a lot, for the stupidest reasons, it`s part of the job.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 5:34 pm
    Show me where you can look up Merchant ID`s from credit card receipts (with no store name on it, of course) and I`ll buy your excuse that "The `Merchant ID` is clearly visible, and identifies Applebees."
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 5:57 pm
    What bothers me the most, and by reading the comments on Facebook it seems like most people feel the same, is that they showed no loyalty to their employee whatsoever. Once the picture went viral they went into damage control mode and fired the waitress without thinking twice. The least they could have done was do some kind of investigation and then make a decision once all concerned parties had made statements about the incident. They expect their employees to pledge their loyalty to the company but will immediately fire them and wash their hands like it never happened.
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    Matwix_2004 Male 18-29
    2551 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 6:08 pm
    Yes. Disregarded company policy, when they also disregarded company policy when someone had something nice to say:
    Link to facebook thingie
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
    1558 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 6:09 pm
    Boycott appleebees -expensive and s hitty food
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13631 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 6:11 pm
    whodat6484
    Try working for TYCO connectivity
    all nice and caring on the outside
    absolute cnuts on the inside
    you dont fit their kaizen 5s structure
    or dont apply it they will find a way to make you gone
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 1, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    What was just funny, has become

    drama drama drama
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    robthelurker Male 18-29
    2861 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 6:19 pm
    applebees had good reason to fire her. the pastor may have been a c*nt, but that doesnt mean she deserves all this negative attention (can you imagine the amount of people trying to get a hold of her just so they can insult her). the waitress screwed herself over by not having enough sense to post the receipt with out the pastors signature in the first time. be careful what you post on the internet, you never know how itll come back to bite you in the ass.
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    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
    1123 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 6:20 pm
    cut and dry, Moving on.
  15. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33070 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 6:28 pm
    @WhoDat: As I said, all it takes is one person with a reciept from the same restaurant and it`s 100% ID`d.

    Chelsae messed up, she got fired, BIG FREAKING DEAL!

    It`s her fault and hers alone. If she`d BOTHERED to clip off the ID and signature? Nothing would have happened to her. But she was lazy. She ONLY has herself to blame.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    February 1, 2013 at 6:44 pm
    @5Cats - You keep throwing that Merchant ID out there which was bullsh*t the first time you said it and it`s still bullsh*t now. You just like to argue so that`s probably why you keep saying it. You should get a job here, it`s perfect for you.

    I`m sure you`re also the kind of guy that would throw someone under the bus without giving it a second thought if you stand to gain something from it.
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    robthelurker Male 18-29
    2861 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 7:08 pm
    @whodat6484 youve lost your argument. shut the f*ck up.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 7:09 pm
    I don`t care. Nobody should care. Everyone is looking for stuff to be outraged about.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 7:17 pm
    @robthelurker - Nope, way to add to the discussion. Now it`s time for you to shut the f*ck up. Go back to your faeries & video games like a good little boy.
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    Runemang Male 30-39
    2676 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 7:20 pm
    Yup, `nuf done, `nuf said ... moving on ...
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    thelonious Male 40-49
    3286 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 8:04 pm
    Everyone is looking for something to get their hit count up.
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    TuckFarted Female 18-29
    87 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 8:28 pm
    I give my imaginary beings 0%..I guess I don`t have to tip at all..they should pay me!
  23. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33070 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 9:04 pm
    @WhoDat: WTF are you "on about"?
    Are you denying that one person with a reciept from the same store is all that`s required to KNOW which restaurant is involved? NO!
    Are you putting forth evidence that the waitress involved DID NOT identify Applebee`s in her postings? NO!

    I PUT FORTH: her origional post contained:
    enough information to track the restaurant
    enough information to track the customer.

    Sober up, bro, and deal with the FACTS.

    All it takes is ONE person, and it`s no longer "private" eh?
    Thus Chelsea violated the rules, violated the laws and disregarded common decency. PERIOD.

    Sorry to be so stern with you, I`m in a foul mood...
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 10:10 pm
    Tip your server well. After all, God won`t spit in your food next time you go out to eat.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 1, 2013 at 10:39 pm
    @5Cats - You said, "@WhoDat: The "Merchant ID" is clearly visible, and identifies Applebees."

    The only reason you know it`s Applebees is because you had prior knowledge from reading the story. If you picked up a receipt somewhere with a Merchant ID on it, you can`t trace it to a particular store unless you run around looking for more receipts to match it hoping one has the name on it. I`m simply telling you that a Merchant ID alone is not all you need to easily identify where that receipt came from. Here`s a receipt with a Merchant ID, tell me when you find out what specific restaurant this receipt comes from, I already know the answer.

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    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 12:55 am
    "Here`s a receipt with a Merchant rant this receipt comes from, I already know the answer."

    No kidding..it was yer post buddy! WTF?
  27. Profile photo of Bakcagain21
    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
    560 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 2:00 am
    @whodat6484 here is a copy of the original It has an easy to identify signature if you know the person. That will give you the area. The original photo was taken from a phone. That makes it likely it had a gps location stored in it`s data. The layout and format of the receipt can be remembered or recognised by people in the area. Takes them checking their own receipt from the night before if they are inclined.

    That is a lot of identifiable information of the customer and then the restaurant by association. As 5cats said it takes just one person to release the details with the picture online and the poo hit the fan. The Pastor has had to remove her twitter and Facebook pages for the abuse. Pastor rung applebees they fired the worker in line with their privacy policy and has a gesture to make
  28. Profile photo of Bakcagain21
    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
    560 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 2:11 am
    sure they don`t get sued for breach of privacy by sue happy america. Someone in the same area as you might be able to work out the information. Or recognise the receipt if it has a bit more information like a mandatory 18% on it... But if 5cats was in same time and ate similar places as you he could work it out. He lives in Canada means he won`t
  29. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 6:37 am
    @Gerry: I`m just waiting for the twist where the Poor Waitress gets to meet George Takei.
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    Johanvb Male 40-49
    512 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 7:38 am
    Well nice, A waiter who speaks out on being treated like an animal by a pastor no less gets fired.

    Pay you waiters a fair salary! No more begging for handouts with a phony smile.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3917 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 7:54 am
    "I`m just waiting for the twist where the Poor Waitress gets to meet George Takei."

    You say a lot of stupid things to rile people up but this is just moronic.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
    2086 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 8:56 am
    The server that posted the receipt was not the server that waited on the so-called pastor and her party. Just because you don`t agree with a company policy, that doesn`t give you a right to violate it.
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    Keegan31 Male 18-29
    228 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 9:30 am
    Of course she was going to get fired. Of course a company, so large that basic human caring becomes lost by corporate bureaucrats who`ve never even met any of their waiters and waitresses, would react in this way. It`s unsurprising.

    No one`s arguing that Applebee`s wasn`t within their rights to fire her, no one`s saying it was illegal. They`re saying that they believe it`s morally wrong. That corporate culture is inhuman and unjust.

    Whether or not you agree is a rather moot point, arguing morals rarely leads anywhere and you`re better off saving your keystrokes. Ultimately there are enough people agreeing that Applebee`s will likely regret it`s actions for a short time. Perhaps some small lesson will be learned, though I have my doubts.
  34. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33070 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 10:02 am
    Thanks @Bakcagain! Your support is appreciated.

    @WhoDat: I never said "I" could figure it out, just that it does identify the store. If 100K people worked on it, I`ll bet one will have access to the database, or have visited the same store, eh?

    Also: if she posted this on her FaceBook (or whatever social media thing), and everyone knew she works at Applebees (because it says so on her FaceBook page), it`s not too difficult to guess where the picture came from, correct? The ID number can confirm it. Proof.

    With the specific name of the patron also printed? It`s clear she made a mistake, and thus lost her job.
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
    3069 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 2:08 pm
    So a situation that really should have been left to her line manager to say `what a poostorm you`ve caused, we`ve had the tight-arsed pastor ringing up to complain...so just let the story die and don`t do it again`......has turned into an even bigger poostorm because someone knee-jerked a disciplinary response.

    I know the employment laws are different over there with regards to firing people but here they`d have to in their employee handbook a lawful disciplinary process (that doesn`t start with `get your coat and drat off`) and they`d have had to follow it - usually by suspending the person, then having a hearing within the week.
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    Kilgore89 Male 18-29
    194 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 4:27 pm
    Funny, if you have read any of the news stories on this (real newspapers, not just internet forums) you would know that the Pastor left a $6 tip in cash which is only 25 cents less than the 18%. The fact of the matter is that the amount of a tip should be left to the discretion of the customer, not tacked onto the bill automatically.

    As far as the waitress getting fired let`s be realistic for a minute. Crappy job or not, you broke the rules and got caught. Further, the waitress who posted the receipt wasn`t even the one who waited the table (again, go read a newspaper). I certainly don`t think that ruining the pastor`s life by making her an international target of abuse over what works out to 25 cents is particularly forgiveable.

    Left a snarky comment on a receipt: now subject to endless abuse from strangers.

    Publicly humiliated a total stranger: lost a minimum wage job.

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    Keegan31 Male 18-29
    228 posts
    February 2, 2013 at 5:00 pm
    @Kilgore89 18% auto-grat is common, in most restaurants, for groups of 8 or more (which this was). The auto-grat was posted on their menu (which you would know if you read a damn paper). Further, your evidence that she did tip is based solely upon her word (yeah, I read that same article). The tip the waitress received was due to the fact that scribbling out an auto-grat does nothing.

    Yes she broke the rules, but she didn`t need to be fired. A warning tends to be the norm for a first time offense.

    We know the picture poster wasn`t the waitress. We don`t care. If you`re an non-nice individual, how dare you get upset over someone telling others that you were an non-nice individual. You don`t want this sort of thing to happen, Don`t be an non-nice individual.

    In the end I`m not worried about the waitress. She`s already received multiple job offers, she`ll be ok.
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    andybme Male 50-59
    296 posts
    February 3, 2013 at 6:26 am
    So does this God have a bank account that she deposits this 10% in or does she send it direct by USPS?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6235 posts
    February 3, 2013 at 9:05 am
    @whodat: A simple test of whether the waitress posted too much information is this: Did anyone figure out who`s reciept it was?

    Answer? Yes. Seeing as the entire internet now knows the identification of the pastor, it`s a FACT that the waitress posted too much, and inappropriate, information.

    And, in doing so, the waitress also opened up Applebee`s the a lawsuit? (you don`t think a `pastor` rude enough to do this is not above filing a lawsuit?)

    Keegan31-"Yes she broke the rules, but she didn`t need to be fired"

    That`s the company`s decision to make. This waitress just opened this company to possibly millions in losses.

    Keegan31-"A warning tends to be the norm for a first time offense."

    "Yes, our waitress beat a customer over the head with a barstool, but we`re going to let her off with a warning."

    It`s also very possible that: A) this was not her first disciplinary action and B) she was a
  40. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6235 posts
    February 3, 2013 at 9:09 am
    @andybme

    Three Pastors discussing their personal way to determine how the tithes will be split with God.

    Pastor A: `I draw a big circle on the floor. I take all the tithes, throw them in the air, and whatever lands in the circle is God`s`

    Pastor B: `I draw a big circle on the floor. I take all the tithes, throw them in the air, and whatever lands outside the circle is God`s`

    Pastor C: `I draw a big circle on the floor. I take all the tithes, throw them in the air, and whatever God catches he keeps.`
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 3, 2013 at 11:27 am
    @Kilgore89 - "...the Pastor left a $6 tip in cash..."

    Hahahahaha!!!!!! You don`t really believe that, do you?

    "Left a snarky comment on a receipt: now subject to endless abuse from strangers."

    She deserves that abuse. She`s a pastor which means she`s in a position where she has influence over what other people think & do. Any person in a position like that is held to a higher standard than others. They`re supposed to lead by example, none of that "do as I say, not as I do" bullsh*t.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6235 posts
    February 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    whodat6484-"She deserves that abuse."

    Whether she did, or not, the wait staff`s actions were against company policy and opened the restaurant, and the company, to a lawsuit.

    A customer expects, and has a legally protected right to, a certain amount of privacy and security of a financial transaction.

    There will probably be a lawsuit, and Applebee`s will most likely settle before it goes to trial.
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    robthelurker Male 18-29
    2861 posts
    February 4, 2013 at 12:46 am
    @whodat i dont care how late this is. i wasnt trying to add anything, i was just trying to get some one who clearly lost his argument to stop making himself look like an idiot. i totally failed. believe me dude, nothing would make me happier to go back to my faeries and video games, but i am compelled to reply to all idiots who have replied to me. idiotic i know, lets just call it irony. by the by, how do you know the difference between fairy and faerie? youre a closet nerd arent you? its ok, embrace it. like ive been trying to tell gerry1of1, we have inherited the earth.
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    grimfusion Male 18-29
    76 posts
    February 4, 2013 at 12:53 am
    I feel for the employee in this matter, but there was a myriad of things she could have done before uploading the images of the receipts to censor out personal information. The fact that she didn`t even think about it means that she`s likely not intelligent enough to be a valuable employee.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    February 4, 2013 at 6:32 am
    disregarded company polic

    SHE MADE DECENT FOOD?!?!?!?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    February 4, 2013 at 7:04 am
    Last time I went to an Applebee`s I asked for my steak rare (I stopped the waiter before he left my table and clarified that I wanted it "RARE-rare" but not blue-rare) and it came back medium-well. THAT`S the real crime at Applebee`s.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    February 4, 2013 at 8:31 am
    vv So you like it bloody not black and blue? vv
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2013 at 8:55 am
    @McGovern: Just give me the cow, I`ll carve off what I want, and ride the rest home!
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6235 posts
    February 4, 2013 at 11:29 am
    @patchgrabber.

    two things:
    1) Going to Applebee`s for a steak is like going to Yugo for a car.
    2) I like my steak so rare a good vet can have it back on it`s feet in 15 minutes.

    My standard reply to `Would you like that Rare` is, `I don`t even want it hurt real bad.`
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    February 4, 2013 at 12:20 pm
    @Megrendel: Ah, something we agree on - steak. I didn`t go to Applebee`s for the steak specifically, I was on a trip going skydiving with some friends and we were waiting for winds to die down and Applebee`s was the only restaurant nearby that looked reputable, as I had recently had a bad experience at a mom-and-pop restaurant the week earlier. But seriously, how can you f*ck up a rare steak?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33070 posts
    February 4, 2013 at 8:01 pm
    @patchy, @MeGrendel (& @McGovern too!)
    With my years of working in many restaurant kitchens, (not as a chef however) I`ve learned how to tell the "wellness" apart! It`s an art, really.

    A chef friend had this experience:
    A guy kept sending back his "blue rare" steaks as overcooked. My friend put some cooking oil on the grill (causing a small fire) scortched one side, then the other, and sent it out.
    The guy said it was the best steak he`d ever had! Became a regular customer.
    It wasn`t "blue rare" it was RAW! But it`s illegal to serve raw steaks (afik) in Canada.

    I prefer "medium" which is probably the hardest to get right...
  52. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    February 4, 2013 at 8:28 pm
    @5cats: I`d always assumed that`s what a blue rare was - basically just putting it on the grill so it has lines. I like it a little more than that, but if it`s not bloody I`m not impressed. I just cannot for the life of me know how someone cannot tell the difference between medium-well and rare. I could have gotten a chimp to do a better job. I`m always polite and friendly to wait staff, and even though I`d never been there before I only tip poorly when service is bad. Oh well, it`s not like I`m eating there again.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6235 posts
    February 5, 2013 at 6:29 am
    How to cook a steak:

    Get your grill HOT.

    Slap a 2lb, properly seasoned and/or marintaed steak down on it. Count to 10.

    Flip it. Count to 5.

    It`s done.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    February 5, 2013 at 8:09 pm
    Gayest franchise name in the history of the service industry - unless, of course, you include Markhust 123

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