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26 Responses to America`s Use Of Drones: Part 2

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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 6:08 pm
    Link: America`s Use Of Drones: Part 2 - Why should you care? Because armed domestic drones are coming soon to a sky near you.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 6:31 pm
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 6:35 pm
    UN position
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 6:48 pm
    "Why should you care? Because armed domestic drones are coming soon to a sky near you."

    I wish this were true. We have armed humans already in our cities they are called police officers.

    So again if we can send a machine to do their jobs of protecting us instead of putting their lives in danger I am all for it.

    Plus since the person flying the drone`s life isn`t at stake they can be more cautious and use non lethal action or wait to see whether it is a wallet being pulled out of a suspects pants rather than a gun.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 6:54 pm
    The drone war is pointless, the biggest way to punish the terrorists is to let them to continue to live in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    But the UN doesn`t have the authority, or balls, to have access to drone footage. And really using drones to kill people is no different than artillery, APCs, Tanks, Fighters, Bombers, or small arms. Also, interesting fun fact, we bombed far more Dutch civilians to death in World War 2 than this entire drone war has killed.

    But domestically armed drones, this is not inherently bad. I would have been all for droning Christopher Dorner. Perhaps we could have had one less dead person. How is it much different than a police chopper? Or National Guard Fighters? It`s called the future, don`t be a geriatric. Sure it can be abused, like anything.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2013 at 7:11 pm
    "the biggest way to punish the terrorists is to let them to continue to live in Afghanistan and Pakistan."

    Having been to Afghanistan, I agree with that statement 100%.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
    1745 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 7:14 pm
    Andrew, we need to be a little more thoughtful on what the government positions itself to do. With secret evidence and no judicial oversight, there`s a little problem of rule of law and due process. Think of this question and ask yourself why it`s so... Which civilizations have lasted far longer, those with or without due process and rule of law? History has shown time and time again the answer to that question.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 7:37 pm
    Yes, I think people should have due process. I don`t care about drone strikes on terrorists, it`s unnecessary. But using drones on Christopher Dorner, most of which would just be for reconnaissance, is just a modern version of sending armed cops and helicopters.

    Obviously, everyone would think it`s wrong for the government to drone the house of a suspected drug lord at random. No one would advocate that more than taking a helicopter gunship and spraying it with bullets, unannounced and unprovoked. That is world`s away from using them to detect an active shooter like Dorner and, if the situation proves too hostile, take him out.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
    1059 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 8:07 pm
    The almighty savior, our benign and infallible leader Barack Hussein Obama is President. What could possibly go wrong?
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    tiedyed Male 40-49
    304 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 9:02 pm
    This is just the tip of the iceberg. The entire process is very slow... been watching the trend for 30 years. Everyone accepts and/or excuses the loss of liberty here and there but can`t see the overall picture. Like the late great George Carlin said..."Nobody seems to notice...nobody seems to care." These drones are a reality. Reviled the world over except by us. Eventually something will happen that will result in martial law declared somewhere in the US, and we`ll see just how armed these domestic drones can be. That`s just the beginning. This is just stuff we`re aware of. What we aren`t aware of yet is what`s really scary.
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    tiedyed Male 40-49
    304 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 9:08 pm
    Oh and another thing. I`m sick of you idiots who are still fooled by this left/right BS. Doesn`t matter who the freakin president is. They`re all just on one team. But we the people buy into this repugnican vs democrap game with the same mindless fervor that ignites wars over a small town high school football game, and is just as meaningless.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4710 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    VVVVV Could not agree more with this statement! VVVVVV
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    paperduck Male 18-29
    1745 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 10:02 pm
    Ajd and Andrew you guys are way too trusting, my guess is you haven`t had the pooty end of the stick dealing with a government douchebag authority? You want to give that guy more power? Look at the type of `leader` the self-entitled congress attracts today, imagine the power-mongers a drone ridden sky, with secret lists and evidence would attract. That`s like trying to clean your house from flies by smearing poop all over the walls.

    Tiedyed is right, it`s a very slow process. Each phased in one step at a time and each justified alone. Its not going to stop either until we stop making excuses for each phase.
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    klaxor Male 18-29
    646 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 10:08 pm
    It`s funny how people are worried about the govt. tracking their movements, while they are completely willing to give the information for free to google, facebook and other "social media sites"

    "Do you authorize google to use you your current location?

    F`ing yes, just get on with it and tell me where the closest Ihop is."
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    tiedyed Male 40-49
    304 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 10:18 pm
    Not all of us klaxor...some of us who have been paying attention saw facebook and the others for what they were. Their subscription numbers are a pretty good indicator of the obliviousness of the general public. It`s very sad.
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    tatripp Male 18-29
    1196 posts
    February 14, 2013 at 11:02 pm
    good thing we are broke and certainly cannot afford drones.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 15, 2013 at 6:28 am

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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    February 15, 2013 at 6:38 am
    Ok, you lost me at "According to conspiracy theorists..."

    Next.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    February 15, 2013 at 8:11 am
    "Ok, you lost me at `According to conspiracy theorists...` Next."

    Ha ha. I dd the same exact thing.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    February 15, 2013 at 8:19 am
    I didn`t like every use of drones during the Bush era and I don`t like every use now. I`m disappointed that President Obama hasn`t said no to whoever is pushing the idea to use drones to take out so many targets. This is creating more enemies than we are killing.

    What is hilarious though is to watch the people who had no problem with them during Bush just completely freak out about them now, and to watch the people who freaked out about them during Bush not care about them now. F*cking partisan c*nts.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    February 15, 2013 at 4:33 pm
    weren`t they using drones to try and find Dorner? i heard a few day ago that they were and he was the first ever on U.S. soil.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 15, 2013 at 7:22 pm
    It`s funny how people are worried about the govt. tracking their movements, while they are completely willing to give the information for free to google, facebook and other "social media sites"

    Tu quoque, when people volunteer information generally it`s because they expect some benefit in return. In your example it would be the ability to expand their personal network and build personal connections. If anyone has the ability to track your movements and purchases, without your consent and any oversight, there is no incentive to prevent abuse of that information.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 15, 2013 at 7:28 pm
    Sure Facebook and Google do share said information with third parties as per their privacy policies. But if any of those third parties don`t have proper handling procedures, or if one of them happen to be fake, then Facebook would not want share information with that entity because it would be bad for their business. Also Google and Facebook have refused government requests for info without warrants.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3441 posts
    February 15, 2013 at 9:30 pm
    "If they hang em` all, they`ll get the guilty
    If they hang em` all, they can not miss
    But remember they`re gonna hang you too!"

    Frankenstein`s monster killed him.

    Be careful paranoid government!
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    Edgarska19 Male 18-29
    1045 posts
    February 15, 2013 at 10:43 pm
    To be honest, I`d trust the drones more than humans when it comes to hunting someone down.
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    Magentab0b Female 30-39
    1467 posts
    February 16, 2013 at 4:12 pm
    Why don`t they want you to know who they are hunting? Like is it grandmas? Or like little kids? Anyone drones "hunt" will be perceived as a victim of our government until a time that there is evidence that the person is guilty. Eh there are police helicopters out doing it now why not just arm them?! :p

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