Tightwad Pastor Gets Waitress Fired [Pic+]

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 4 years ago in Misc

The pastor from yesterday"s post called Applebees and demanded they fire her. Waitress"s story is in the credits link
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Male 40
Typical.
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Male 425
Any person that is compelled to leave a note like that for a total stranger does not deserve the graces of god.
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Male 674
Did all you blow-hards forget to look through the comments and read what AvatarJohn had to say? Take the time to find that comment and you will find...the simple plain truth.
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Male 2,988
This "pastor" is a horrible excuse for a human being and should not giving anyone life advice. If anyone deserves to get fired it is the pastor from her job. I hope the waiter finds work quickly.
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Female 91
When I served, the hourly wage was $2.30. I think it`s a whopping $3-something now. I always tip SOMETHING, even if I got bad service; they`ll just get less. I had a day so bad I didn`t even have the $12 I needed to pay my babysitter.
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Female 80
A lot of places in the U.S. make the tip mandatory for large parties, because the waitress usually can`t take a lot of other tables because tending to a large group take a lot. It will say somewhere on the menu "For parties of ten or more people a 15% gratuity is included in the bill". Servers are only paid 2 or 3 dollars an hour, so tips are very important!
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Male 13,630

pay the poor buggers a decent wage
they wouldnt need to live on tips
US sort thee selves out
over in the UK they are not paid that much minimum wage I guess which is aprox £6.70
(may be out a few pence)
what is the wage for a US waiter???
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Male 40,359
@Zieveraar: Mostly correct.
If she`s already left the tip (which the Pastor says) then she`s not required to tip again! So she is free to scratch it out.
The 18% IS INDEED a "suggestion".
Some bills put suggested tips on, others don`t.
When in Canada or the USA, a tip of between 10% > 25% (pre tax) is expected, but not required by law or anything.
But bad service should NEVER get a tip.

Still confused? lolz! No worries mate! We`re not all that sure ourselves.

("No worries mate" is Australia`s #1 contribution to the world, thanks mates!)
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Male 8,438
Arcval-"waiting staff decent pay and not tipping except for exceptional service."

That would be ideal. But multiplying labor costs 3x will result in higher priced food, which will drive some customers away, which is not good for business.

It might not make `sense`, but some people willing to pay $10 for a burger, fries and drink and leaving a $5 tip would not be willing to pay $14 for the same meal, sans tip.
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Male 415
I don`t get this whole tipping thing though. The pastor scratches out the 18% line, leaves 6 USD (this is what really makes her an idiot if she`s complaining about 6.29 being too much, which imo it is but that`s another matter), but afterwards does see that the 18% was added to her bill anyway? That`s theft isn`t it? That would be more than enough to have me call and ask for someone to be held accountable. If I read the comments here, the 18% on that bill is a suggestion, right? Or is that wrong?
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Male 303
This would all be a moot issue if americans copied europeans by paying waiting staff decent pay and not tipping except for exceptional service. Much easier and the bill at the end of the meal is the same.
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Male 83
TIPS ARE GETTING RIDICULOUS, why even call them tips?? just another f ucking charge
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Male 4,431
Limiteded, I think we can come to that conclusion because sometimes sacrifice is required for justice to be served. I *do* think it`s just that the diner was called out and shamed. But, too, I have to agree with MeGrendel and 5Cats that the company can`t let the waitress` actions slide. If it were my company, I`d let it slide. And maybe pay the price in lost customers. And maybe I really wouldn`t if faced with it? Maybe I`m just talking big. I`d like to think I would support the waitress, though. :-) But, sadly, as a national company, I think they did what they had to. I hope that the diner learned a lesson and that serving that lesson and getting some justice for her colleague was worth it for our waitress.
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Male 140
If we can agree that justice was served by the photo going viral and this lady receiving the `just desserts` of her actions,

How do we then agree that the company involved served justice by firing the whistle-blower?
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Male 40,359
No worries @SmagBoy!
idk if she really left a tip or not either! I`m just pointing out that no where, in any of the reports on this, does anyone DENY she left a tip.
And it wasn`t the origional waitress who posted it, it was a co-worker.

But for sure: It was a DUMB and rude note to leave. I 100% agree.

All Christians, but especially "church leaders" are supposed to BE GOOD examples of their faith!

Dumb note = NOT what Jesus would do...
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Male 4,431
Okay, 5Cats, I agree with your sequence of events, except that there`s no way she left a cash tip. That`s just after-the-fact spin. Otherwise why the rude ass note. As for the rest, I understand what you and MeGrendel are saying. I do. I just think that it`s extremely rude to leave no tip when going out to eat. I think it`s even more rude to do so along with a nasty note. And even more, more so while using God as a justification. But you`re correct, posting the signature was too far.
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Male 40,359
[quote]5Cats, the patron`s name is irrelevant without tons of other info.[/quote]
@SmagBoy: Are you joking? "Pastor Alois Bell" pretty much narrows it down to ONE PERSON yes?
Applebee`s clearly WAS identified, ask @bophus about that!
So the "waitress" did indeed identify the patron AND the business. OK?
I see you`ve already agreed, so that`s good.

Leaving a private message doesn`t give a 3rd party permission to publicly attack you, it`s simple.

The sequence of events is:
Pastor left $6 cash tip
Went to pay bill
Wrote stupid note

NO ONE is disputing this, ok? Saying "She felt guilty and went back and left some money" is BLIND SPECULATION of the meaningless variety...
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Male 40,359
@slotherder: Slander? Privacy laws? There`s laws against it, one way or another.

[quote] Why leave the nasty note, then turn around and leave almost the exact amount on the table?[/quote]
@Smutleybutt: If the $6 cash was already tipped, she has every right to scratch out the "18%" part. The nasty note? Was stupid. VEry stupid. She`s admitted that.

@bophus: I didn`t say "credit card info" but @SmagBoy claimed that Applebee`s wasn`t identified. Merchant ID means it WAS.
If she`d already left the cash, she is free to scratch out the 18%... NOT to be nasty about it however.

IF the reciept had been posted without the Merchant ID and the signature? NO one would have been fired. THAT is the problem here.
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Male 8,438
SmagBoy1-" there`s nothing that was posted that could cause the patron to lose money"

I dissagree: her signature was released, as was her identity and her place of employment. It also infuriated a lot of people who might now think that she is `fair game`.

SmagBoy1-"I were company I might decide to take the heat on this one"

And admit to the world you condone mistreatment of customers? THAT would do wonders for their business. A press statement means nothing. It might as well say `Hey, we don`t condone abusing customers, but we willing hire people that do.`.

SmagBoy1-"we also will not abide customers treating our staff in this manner."

What manner? That she didn`t leave a tip? If a waitress can`t handle that, nor rude customers, she has no business being a waitress.
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Male 403
who would have guessed a black person didn`t want to leave a tip?
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Male 4,431
crucifyed4us, she signed the check with "pastor". Had she not done that, we WOULDN`T EVEN HAVE KNOWN! That`s the ONLY reason her being is pastor is being mentioned, because it`s so effing ironic that she was such a bitch while claiming to be a servant of the Lord. Irony much?
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Male 4,431
MeGrendel, ultimately you`re right. The waitress shouldn`t have posted the receipt with the signature visible. So, I agree. And, yes, companies *do* have to protect patrons. So I agree.

That said, there`s nothing that was posted that could cause the patron to lose money, have her identity hacked, her credit threatened, etc.

So, because of that, and how crappily she treated her waitress (not the one who posted, but the other), if I were company I might decide to take the heat on this one, saying that while "we don`t condone what our employee did, we also will not abide customers treating our staff in this manner. As a result, we`ve engaged in training our staff on appropriate behavior." Etc.

I think the most offensive person in this scenario, by FAR, was the bitch "pastor". And my sense of justice is okay with her being outed.
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Male 63
I don`t understand what the fact that she is a Pastor has to do with her being a bitch... If this had been any other person would you care? No, because it wouldn`t involve trying to discredit someone who believes in a god you don`t believe in yet have such a huge problem with.
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Male 5,811
@BoredFrank: I`d wager she`s a baptist. They don`t really believe in the higher system of church like catholics or even other protestants do, like cardinals, bishops, pope etc. They only have pastors and deacons. iirc it isn`t that hard to become a baptist pastor.
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Male 2,390
applebees is a pooty ass place to work for anyways.. I should know..
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Male 6,227
Just watched the story on CNN and not only do I think the "pastor" is cheap, I also think she`s a liar. She claims on camera that she "left six dollars on the table." So she scratched out the amount of $6.29 on the bill, wrote an insulting comment--then put virtually the same amount down on the table as a tip? I highly doubt that.
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Male 2,670
The `pastor` is self-proclaimed and runs a 15-member `church` out of a strip-mall storefront. Hell, anybody can stick the word pastor in front of their name and start fleecing the ignorant and the gullible. I say if you cannot or will not tip, leave your broke classless ass at home.
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Male 8,438
SmagBoy1-"the patron`s name is irrelevant without tons of other info"

Obviously there WAS enough info to endanger the pastor`s info? How do we know this? Someone figured it out and the world now knows who the pastor is.

SmagBoy1-"But this is just a bitch being bitchy and getting called out"

True, but waitress that was fired was not the pastor`s waitress. The waitress demonstrated that she suffers from lack of judgement, does not respect the privacy of her customers and is willing to break company policy and possibly the law.

Is this someone YOU would like working for you? Most companies would not want to accept the liability.
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Male 674
Lets face the simple truth, AvatarJohn sums it up in plain sense. Well said John!
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Male 4,431
5Cats, the patron`s name is irrelevant without tons of other info. This is just a bitch, who was being a bitch, getting mad because she got called out on her bitchiness. Now, if the waitress had posted the town, if she`d posted the pastor`s account number, if she`d posted a picture, or even the name of the restaurant with another piece of this bitch`s information, then, sure. But this is just a bitch being bitchy and getting called out. Effing bitch.
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Female 43
It`s not about race. It`s about using religion to be a dick.
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Female 16
That pastor was a douche canoe but I don`t buy all the waitress`s story. The way she claims she was absolutely innocent to everything and really had nothing to do with it... haha right.
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Male 2,436
There is a certain sterotype about tipping that exists... that people of the negro persuasion are not good at it.

Just sayin`...
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Male 67
A black chick didn`t leave a tip? Really? I thought they were notoriously big tippers.......im confused. I worked in many bars/ resturaunts before and during college, not exactly front page news, everyone knows wh tips and who doesn`t.
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Male 208
Both of them can eat cake.
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Female 322
Markust123 - I know what you`re talking about. Waitresses and waiters also complain about certain large groups that are notorious for stiffing at restaurants despite spending big cash on food and booze.

This idiot of a so-called pastor just helped perpetuate a stereotype on a viral scale. Nice going, you dumb broad.
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Male 2,672
[quote]She clearly did not do that and is trying to save face. If she was worked up about paying the tip on the receipt, why would she leave cash? That would make absolutely no sense.[/quote]


It could make perfect sense. A cash tip is easier for a server to hide from the government. Many people make a habit of leaving cash tips for servers. I`m not saying that`s what happened here. Nobody knows for sure.

Either way it sounds like both parties need work.
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Male 612
more like cry baby waitress` stupid actions gets her fired.
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Male 2,841
We can`t say anything to anybody about anything anymore.
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Male 3,908
@bophus - The link you posted is pretty much all I could find on Missouri as well. To me, that sounds like it would be handled on a case by case basis if someone feels there`s been an invasion of privacy and decided to take it to court. I wanted to use something as an example and the California Civil Code was first one I could find.
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Male 907
I assumed it was an older white guy. I think any restaurant employee who puts a customer`s check online without blurring the identifying info should be fired, period.
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Male 1,059
The pastor is a jerk who deserved to be ridiculed.

The waitress is an idiot who deserved to be fired.

Looks like justice won this round!
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Male 497
as far as missouri law for privacy online, this is the closest I could fine. Someone please let me know if I am incorrect.

The right of privacy has been described as "the right to be left alone." It arises solely from law established by court decisions. There are no statutes in Missouri that address the right of privacy. Violation of one`s right of privacy is considered a "tort" or civil wrong which gives rise to the right to sue in state court for damages, an injunction or both. In Missouri only a natural person, not a legal entity such as a corporation, enjoys a right of privacy.

Here
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Male 497
@5Cats "@SmagBoy: The name AND the company which issued the reciept are clearly visible... "Merchant ID"? "

That information is nothing. The merchant ID is on every credit card terminals receipt. It only tells the name of the business that the machine is associated with. It in no way is able to give you credit card information.

"She claims she left $6 on the table, and no one has disputed that at all."

She clearly did not do that and is trying to save face. If she was worked up about paying the tip on the receipt, why would she leave cash? That would make absolutely no sense.
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Male 1,377
@5cats Sure she left cash, because she said so, right? Why leave the nasty note, then turn around and leave almost the exact amount on the table? What is the point? For her to save 25 cents? Do you really believe her? The woman who left such a message?
Not only does she not tip but she`s a liar.
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Male 3,908
She didn`t do anything illegal as far as I`m concerned, unless there`s some sort of Waitress/A$$hole Customer confidentiality agreement I haven`t heard of yet.

On a serious note, it ultimately depends on what the state law is in Missouri regarding consent. For example, California Civil Code 3344(d) states that consent IS NOT required if a person`s name, picture, signature, etc are used for news, public affairs and things along those lines. In that context "news" & "public affairs" are such broad terms that they can be legally interpreted as almost anything of public interest.
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Male 288
You can be a prick all you want - just don`t let the internet catch you doing it.
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Male 251
What law is that, 5cats?
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Male 40,359
[quote]Did she feel bad after she stiffed the server? No.[/quote]
@Smutleybutt: She claims she left $6 on the table, and no one has disputed that at all.
She`s admitted what she wrote was dumb.
However, at NO point did she give her permission to have her name posted on the internets. THAT isn`t exactly legal.

@SmagBoy: The name AND the company which issued the reciept are clearly visible... "Merchant ID"?

@KingdomCome: -SNORT- ! lolz! Best comment of the day!
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Male 815
Strongly worded letter to Apple Bee`s -- Sent!
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Male 40,359
The woman who posted the picture is trying to claim she "didn`t break Applebee`s rules"???
She DID break THE LAW however...

Fired, on the spot = right call.
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Male 497
Gerry1of1 - "There`s a comment section?"

in the news they do. If you dont use it, i highly suggest you start, it is a great time.
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Male 40,359
She`s a black, lady pastor?
So who amoung us thought it was an older, white dude?
Well, it just goes to show: it takes all kinds of folks to make the world go around!

(She says she left a $6 tip on the table, so she scratched it off the bill).
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Male 2,085
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Male 39,610

People still yahoo?

bophus, [quote]"i do...because the comment section is so much fun." [/quote]
There`s a comment section? I thought it was just porn groups and junk mail.
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Male 338
@whodat6484, it was a party of 10, 5 adults 5 children and the bill was split, this was the pastor`s share

@kitteh, technically the caption IS incorrect, it indicates that the pastor called applebees and demanded that she (the pastor) be fired. But then I am one picky [email protected]

to be fair to this beacon on human compassion, if someone had posted my signature online, I`d expect some repurcussions
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Male 11,739
[quote]The caption is wrong. According to the article the pastor didn`t demand that she was fired. [/quote]

YOU are wrong. Here is the exact quote from the story.

[quote]Chelsea says the customer who had left the receipt contacted her Applebee’s location, demanding that everyone be fired, from the servers involved to the managers.[/quote]

After reading the interview with the "pastor", I was thrilled to find out she is from my hometown. I have a lot of friends and I`m going to spread the word so we can ruin this bitch. She is a complete f ucking moron and an embarrassment to any church. I hope we can run her sorry ass out of town, this is totally pathetic. Trying to get everyone involved fired because you`re a stupid, tightwad bitch? It makes me sick.
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Male 497
Why is everyone so up in arms about her signature being on the receipt? How many pieces of mail do you get each day with a signature on it? I bet this "pastor" sent out mailing to her congregation and to the local area telling them about her ministry all the time. I also bet that said letters, had her signature on it. A signature isnt near enough information to steal an identity. Now had they posted her credit card information, SSN along with her signature, then there would be a problem.

Peoples signatures change all the time.

She isnt mad that they posted her signature, she is only mad she got caught being a costco size bottle of douche.
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Female 8,043
SarahofBorg, Quoted from the Consumerist which I linked in the credits (they interviewed the girl who was fired and the management):

`Some time on Wednesday, Chelsea says the customer who had left the receipt contacted her Applebee`s location, demanding that everyone be fired, from the servers involved to the managers.`

Sounds like she demanded it to me. Caption stands.
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Male 497
@gerry1of1

i do...because the comment section is so much fun.
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Male 3,908
Yeah, it`s usually added when there are over 5 or 8 people in a party, or if the check is huge from what I remember. A bill that comes out to $35 could very well be just her (she looks like she could pack away that much food) or it`s probably just her & someone else ordering off a lunch menu. Either way it`s not enough for the tip to be added automatically, the computer takes care of that when they enter the amount of people at the table.

@nettech98 - I`m still pretty sure that line means "18% of $34.93 is $6.29" just do the math and you`ll see that. (18% of 34.93 = 6.2874)
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Female 3,562
The caption is wrong. According to the article the pastor didn`t demand that she was fired. She was fired because the receipt was posted on the internet, which is justifiable if she was the one who posted it, which she isn`t. So it`s all BS.
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Male 1,057
@whodat: You are mistaken. The next line is "Adtl Tip" - Additional Tip. That means over and above the 18% they are demanding. Your reasoning that the tip wasn`t "automatically added" is that there is no preprinted total. There never is.
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Male 3,147
"People still Yahoo?"

yeah, but only at rodeos or when google is down.
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Male 3,147
"Pastor"

well that`s hardly a title hard to gain in the US.

I`m an Atheist Brit and i managed to get ordained there even after telling them so.
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Male 39,610

People still Yahoo?
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Male 2,675
Whodat, yeah you`re right, my bad. But a lot of restaurants do add a gratuity for parties over X-people.
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Male 3,908
@Runemang - the tip was not automatically added. The line on the receipt that says "18% - $6.29" (which is crossed out) is put there to inform the customer that if they leave an 18% tip, which is what people usually do, it would be $6.29, it`s just there to make it easier for people who suck at math. Right under that it says "TIP: _____" for the customer to add the tip.
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Male 946
Correct me if I`m wrong but "tithing" 10% to your church means 10% of your total income, not of a reciept for $35.00. Sorry pastor. Apples and oranges there.
How about next time (or every time) you go into a restaurant, the waitress just tells you "The Lord will provide" then walks away.
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Male 4,431
jonswan12, the "pastor" is a woman. She tried NOT to tip the 18%, and she got outed like she deserved.

As for those claiming the waitress was fired due personal information, the only thing she posted was the signature. Not the name, not anything else. And yes, it was stupid, but, a signature in and of itself wasn`t enough. It took a lot of sleuth work on the part of good people who called out this terrible "pastor".
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Male 2,675
Wow, okay, I change my opinion from when just the receipt was posted yesterday. There`s so much messed up here, lol ...

a) Big groups have gratuity automatically put on the bill in MANY restaurants because more often than not the server flogs her guts out and gets a pooty tip. The waitress didn`t put down 18%, the computer did.

b) The computer MAY not have even LET the waitress remove the 18%. I`m not positive about that.

c) the pastor blamed the waitrress and was rude on the receipt

d) the waitress was a dumbass for not at LEAST cropping out the signature (I would have been livid too).

e) the pastor didn`t "get the girl fired" because of the 18% tip, the girl got fired for posting the receipt on the internet with the customer`s signature.

This is a whole lotta stupid for one story.
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Male 72
The article got it all wrong. It implies that he didn`t tip. He DID tip; 18% to be exact. That`s what was automatically added to the bill because he was part of a big group. He just didn`t leave an additional tip, like most people don`t; there is nothing wrong with that. He was merely expressing his concern that the waiter gets an auto tip of %18 when he only gives God 10%. It is comical that he feels one would have anything to do with the other, but the preist is not technically a tight wad because he did in fact leave a tip.
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Male 399
so were two people fired or one? it says that the waitress (who was separate from the server) was fired, but what about the server herself...sure she got shafted (maybe...depends if the cash tip was really left or not), but the tip being charged to the credit card was an extra unauthorised charge (not much but still)

*shrugs*

ambiguity in the writting
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Male 1,377
When did this women feel like what she did was wrong?

Did she feel bad after she stiffed the server? No. Did she feel bad after she complained and got the server fired? No.

Did she feel bad after she got outed on the internet for being a bitch? Yes.

Then and only then was she sorry for what she did.

Isn`t there some saying about "Don`t do anything that would embarrass you to do in front of your mom or god"?

She was embarrassed because she got caught.

You would think she would be sympathetic to someone keeping their job since she was homeless. I guess not since she got the girl fired.


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Male 1,558
What an non-nice individual just like all "christians".
What a stupid club to belong too!!!
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Male 8,438
The Pastor was rude.

The Waitress was an idiot and was rightfully fired.
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Male 4,891

@robthelurker - You`ve been busy the last couple posts. Are you writing your biography one post at a time?
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Male 4,431
And Applebee`s can go to Hell, too. draters.
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Male 4,431
May our good "pastor" burn in Hell.
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Male 7,123
She has a congregation of fifteen?
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Male 3,908
@robthelurker - I feel exactly the opposite. I`m glad she was identified so people can see what a piece of sh*t she really is. She did bring disgrace & embarrassment to herself, her church and her ministry and people should be aware of that. Just because someone is a pastor or whatever the f*ck they are doesn`t mean they can hide behind the cloth and expect to given special treatment.
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Male 3,115
Granted the `pastor` was rude and inconsiderate to leave the note, posting the receipt online with the signature was foolish, and the result predictable.
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Male 17
How very Christian of her. Screw her, horrific mess of a woman. I like how she went from homeless to podgy in a few years, she should lay off the Applebees.
(Can someone quickly run by me what the UK equivalent of Applebees is?)
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Male 3,625
i felt a lot better about this when i thought personal information wasnt involved. i felt good about calling the pastor a c*nt when i didnt know she was actually a woman, but now that i know her name, this all feels wrong. yes, the pastor is still a c*nt for getting the girl fired, but the girl shouldnt have posted the receipt with the pastors signature. if she thought the pastors signature was illegible then she needs to wear glasses.
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Female 2,602
Never mind. She has a fine career ahead of her bitching and moaning on the internet. Because the internet doesn`t have enough bitching moaners to go around.
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Male 14,331

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Male 14,331
I`d boycott Crapplebees but I already have cause they suck.
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Male 4,856
I can`t write what I want. Anyone who has worked in a restaurant knows the truth about some big groups.
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Female 8,043
Link: Tightwad Pastor Gets Waitress Fired [Pic+] [Rate Link] - The pastor from yesterday`s post called Applebees and demanded they fire her. Waitress`s story is in the credits link
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