The Root Of The Problem [Pic]

Submitted by: 5cats 4 years ago in

It isn"t guns that kill people.
There are 88 comments:
Male 505
@McGovern, as I said we stopped being an empire a long time ago, it`s you that keeps banging on about it. For a country as small as ours with such limited resources we don`t do a bad job of holding our own. Oh, and if you think we are occupying Northern Island then I guess you guys are only occupying America?
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Male 133
wow! you know swear words, you are cool...

I am joking.
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Male 14,331
Rectus Dominus.
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Male 133
Nondum matura est, nolo acerbam sumere
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Male 133
if you don`t know latin is your problem not mine, or i can know only the stuff you know?
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Male 14,331
Nope you have fun with that language only the church uses.
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Male 133
yes, i am not anglophone, problems?
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Male 14,331
[quote]if you don`t know latin is your problem not mine, or i can know only the stuff you know?[/quote]

That certainly wouldn`t be English.
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Male 133
if you don`t know latin is your problem not mine, or i can know only the stuff you know?
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Male 14,331
you`re*
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Male 14,331
He who smeltith it dealtith it! BTW latin sayings make you look like a pompus assed know it all.
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Male 133
Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta
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Male 14,331
@Pyrosisflame

N. Ireland is about 1/6th of Ireland a land you occupy. I bet your the type that supports Palestine too.
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Male 592
McGovern... counting just england, wales, scotland and northern ireland that`s 4 countries. was your mental growth stunted at pre-puberty from some form of smokable chemical? (my guess would be meth)
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Female 2,228
Creamk, mellow drama much? And anywhoo the Bush Administration ended a long time ago. Besides, that`s a real pity considering I quite like you folks.


Somebody has to. (My poor dear lil` Iggy, I just want to hug him and give him all the tea and sympathy he needs).

Happy Inauguration Day, from the states!!
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Male 14,331
Or do you want to include Wales too? Then 3 and 1/6th.
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Male 14,331
Yes now it`s just a United Kingdom of about 2 and 1/6 countries.
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Male 505
@McGovern, we`re certainly little but happy rather than sad :)) PS. We ceased to be an empire some time ago, please update your records.
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Male 373
Retarded. Ever see one guy try a mass beating?

(rule 34 notwithstanding)
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Male 14,331



Ignore the UK they tried to tell most of the world how to live awhile ago and that`s why it`s a sad little empire now.
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Male 5,811
This is somewhat misrepresenting the position. Some people argue for strict gun control when one person gets shot, but the actual issue here is school shootings or mass shootings in general. I`m sure you`d see more knife or garrote control being suggested if there were multiple annual instances of mass deaths due to knives or wire.
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Male 505
@MeGrendel, seriously - that is how you core an apple? There are better designed solutions.
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Male 505
Are bombs legal? Blowing things up in the woods is great fun.
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Male 41,141
@Gaudith: Nice avatar! Glad you`ll be sticking around (so it seems).

Don`t be fooled, that was a BAD APPLE! It spoiled the whole bunch! ;-)

Now if you`ll excuse me, I`ve got some dead cow, dead mushrooms, dead onions & potatoes & misc dead veggies awaiting me!
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Female 231
And lollipops, yes. I was under the impression everybody was like that. Now I feel as though I was mistaken.

All I`m saying is that apple probably had a job, obeyed laws, maybe even had kids, she might have been married, and then someone came along, picked her, and shot her.

It was a horribly violent crime. She will be missed.
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Male 8,694
@Gerry,

To me (and any sane person) the preference in the rape case is simple:



Gauddith-"that apple had to be killed"

Killed? Seriously? How do you manage to survive? Off sunshine?
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Male 41,141
Recently? Yes! It`s what`s timely & topical, eh?
I haven`t put up a "Zimmerman vs Martin" post in a while, you`ll notice.

I`ve also suggested MANY wondeful things which were 100% NON-political.
Like that comet that`s coming in November!
LeeluCutieSpecial < and THIS! Sooo good! Hurry up and post it @FancyLad!
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Male 41,141
[quote]the only purpose of a gun is to kill.[/quote]
@synaw: Hunting is no longer allowed? Defending one`s home is no longer allowed? Simply collecting because you like it is no longer allowed?
Sometimes killing is required, for food or defence. People are FREE in the USA to buy legal things with their own money. What they legally buy shouldn`t require "government permission".

Welcome to IAB anyhow!

@spermninja: Wiki: Rwanda Genocide. Over 500K dead (perhaps 1 million) and many, if not half, were killed with machettes... there`s LOTS of "knife attacks" but the "news" simply pays no attention to them.

@Kickan: Oh ho ho! Euro-sarcasm! Y`all can click on my name (profile) and see the 200+ things I`ve posted: MOST are not political.
I also have suggested 4X that number, again MOST were not political either.
Suck it up, buttercup.
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Male 243
Does 5Cats actually post anything but pro guns propaganda?
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Male 40,254

synaw- [quote]"the only purpose of a gun is to kill." [/quote]
You say that like it`s a bad thing.

Let`s take some real life situations: "Home Invasion" and "Rape"

No one one wants to be the victim of a home invasion, but they do happen and gun control wont stop them so if you were on the receiving end of a home invasion would you ..
A: Want to be completely unarmed and rely on the good nature of the crooks to not hurt you.
or
B: Have a loaded weapon to defend yourself and home?

In the case of rape, god forbid {tui-tui} but if it happened would you...
A: Want to have no reacourse but to let him and hope he doesn`t kill you, too.
or
B: Reach in your purse and shoot his nuts off?

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Male 1,421
Give everybody guns, wall up the country and see what happens. Would take care single greatest threat of this world have endure: USA. A country that thinks it`s above all international agreements and laws, a country that systematically tortures people, country that sends drones to kill, the country that does nothing else but ruin this planet and likes to kill, kill, kill.
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Male 1,421
blah blah blah...
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Female 231
Grendel I`m really happy for you and I`m going to let you finish, but that apple had to be killed in order for it to be shot.

Also, you`re correct we don`t just use them to kill anymore, but we made them to kill in the first place. Your argument is silly, I`d go with,

"Who cares if guns were made to kill people, It`s my right to use one to defend myself from someone who has the intent to kill me. If I have to kill someone because they intended to end my life then so be it, only I have to live with the repercussions of my actions. Albeit sad when someone is killed needlessly, for the most part I feel guns are for the greater good when in the hands of a normal responsible citizen of any country. Far be it from me to have the desire to defend and protect that wich I have worked to build."

Instead of the ol`, "herp derp liberal`s ruinin` mah country and mah gun is a tool see here is a picture to disprove everything you`ve ever said" crap I k
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Male 459
Apart from a few cases in China, knives have rarely been used in a killing spree. I don`t know of any disturbed individuals committing mass murder with a garrotte or baseball bat either, Two mass shootings in about 6 months, resulting in the loss of nearly forty innocent lives, that`s what has started this debate. maybe a ban on semi automatics is not going to make a huge difference, but surely questions need to be asked about ways to make people safer?. If the loonies start using their cars to run over as many people as they can, surely similar questions would be asked? ie; what can we do to prevent this kind of thing happening again?.
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Male 7
All boils down to the FACT! The government wants us to be unable to protect ourselves from them!!!
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Male 649
Killed the drat out of that apple.
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Male 8,694
synaw-"the only purpose of a gun is to kill."

Repeating that does not make it true.




Look, that one was not used to kill, so obviously your statement has been disproven.
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Male 58
5cats what you fail to realize is that all those other things have other purposes. the only purpose of a gun is to kill.
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Male 41,141
[quote]This is my last comment on any of his bulls.hit.[/quote]
AHHAHAAA!
I missed reading that until @mocrules quoted it!

OH-I-WISH it were true! You`ve promised that before, and yet you refuse to shut up!

And then I prove you WRONG again, and you call me names AGAIN. Don`t you get tired of doing either? What sort of person are you @HG?

Not one I`d care to meet in r/l, that`s for sure.

Hey! You don`t like my suggestions?
#1 Don`t read them
#2 Suggest better
#3 Complain to @FancyLad (lolz! See what THAT gets you!)
#4 Cry

Censorship has been attempted before, but I for one think it has NO place at IAB. Except when @FancyLad does it, because it`s -his- website...
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Male 41,141
"Eliminate all the tiny countries and what are you left with?"
@HG: You`re left with dozens of LARGE countries with higher murder rates than the USA...

Like I said: World average = apx 7.
Is the USA over or under that?

Countries By Population

What is "large" @HG? 10 million? 20? You love making stuff up, eh?

Homicide Rates By Nation

If there`s 100 people in a country, and 2 of them get murdered? Then HELLS YES that`s a freaking dangerous place to live!
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Male 60
"Hey guys, if you think the dumb s.hit 5cats posts is f.ucking retarded just ignore it. Don`t comment on it. Tons of comments and clicks is the reason the site posts his crap. We all flood here to tell him how dumb whatever he posts is and IAB gets tons of page views. It just ensures they will post his next moronic conservative trite."

I have been thinking that for weeks now! Tired of seeing his posts with so many comments. All of which are just bitching back and forth. He is an Internet troll and nothing more. Please stop commenting on his moronic posts.

"This is my last comment on any of his bulls.hit." Same for me!
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Male 41,141
"Eliminate all the tiny countries..."
@HolyGod What are you "on about" now? Just drop anything that doesn`t "fit your theory" eh? That`s science! Well it`s AGW science anyhow.

Mexico is "tiny"? Columbia (47M) Sudan (31M) PAKISTAN? Is THAT "tiny" with it`s 181M people and it`s 7.8 murder rate?

The"world average" is around 7, and what`s the USA? Above or below that?

"the dumb s.hit 5cats posts is f.ucking retarded"

Nice @HG! Nice! Oh but I`m the one who "is mean to you" - liberal hypocrite.

"Wasn`t there a Mod or something..."
@QueenZira: Ah, censorship! The "liberal`s trump card"! If you can`t disprove what he says? SILENCE HIM.
Worked for Stalin!

@jbwhite: "kitchen knives" are `restricted` in UK, you think that`s a good idea?
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Male 8,694
jbwhite-"guns have one intention, to cause damage"

Guns have one intention, to throw a peice of cylindrical metal away from itself as accurately as possible.

jbwhite-"a baseball bat"

Is made to hit things. It is, of course, derived from the Club, which was designed to kill.

jbwhite-"some piano wire"

Make a damn fine garrot.

jbwhite-"kitchen knife"

Noticed how you put the limiting term `kitchen` in there, as the advent of the knife was for, of course, killing people and animals. While a `kitchen` knife is design to cut veggies, a `Trench knife` was intended to kill, as is a shiv, rampuri, dagger, combat knife, & bayonet
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Male 1,292
guns have one intention, to cause damage, a baseball bat, a kitchen knife, or some piano wire were all made for a specific purpose other than causing harm, guns were made to cause harm
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Male 8,694
HolyGod-"Can any gun person tell me what the hell the 1,684 murders by "Other guns or type not stated""

Quite a few of them would be home-made guns, bang-sticks and/or `zip`guns.

You didn`t think that guns were hard to make, did you? That if you stop BIG manufacturers from producing them no one with a shop would be able to make big money selling them?

Want a gun? What kind? I can make you one that looks like a cell phone in a week. One that looks like a pen in a day.

With what I have in my very limited shop, I can make a revolver or a semi-automatic pistol with very little effort.

Usually, about this time is when someone say `get rid of the bullets.` Too bad, I can make those two.

"Well, what if we just outlaw gunpowder?" I can make that too, but probably wouldn`t bother as I have another formulation using just three common chemicals that makes a right nice propellent. Stronger than black-powder,
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Female 2,228
Wasn`t there a Mod or something who was in charge of keeping a lid on the over expression of 5cat`s Id in submissions at one time or another?

Can we get that guy/gal back through some kind of mass movement of pictures on milk cartons and petitions and planes writing giant SOSes in the sky? Because I`m starting to wonder...

(BTW nice work there Coffeekoneko and HG ;-)).
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Male 10,111
Seems to me he is holding a hand gun. Anyone propose getting rid of handguns? No? OK then, EXCELLENT point!

Someone kills someone every day. Getting rid of guns won`t ever change that. However, this post will make sense when someone kills 20 kindergarteners with a baseball bat.

Hey guys, if you think the dumb s.hit 5cats posts is f.ucking retarded just ignore it. Don`t comment on it. Tons of comments and clicks is the reason the site posts his crap. We all flood here to tell him how dumb whatever he posts is and IAB gets tons of page views. It just ensures they will post his next moronic conservative trite.

This is my last comment on any of his bulls.hit.
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Male 10,111
Since we are on the subject of this link:
http://tinyurl.com/cufdy6m

Can any gun person tell me what the hell the 1,684 murders by "Other guns or type not stated" are attributed to since rifles, hand guns, and shot guns are stated?
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Male 10,111
randomxmp

"No, it makes perfect sense because in the USA more people are murdered with hammers and clubs of some form than with rifles."

No dips.hit. That is not true. Here is the link:
http://tinyurl.com/cufdy6m
Instead of suckling off the right wing bulls.hit teat try researching for yourself.

The category is NOT "hammers and clubs" it is "Blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.)" The etc is kinda f.ucking important here. It includes ALL blunt objects. So, baseball bats, cro-bars, pipes, rocks, sticks, ETC. Get it?

Also, let me repeat this for the 100th time. I don`t care if one person kills one person. You can never stop that. I care if one person kills 26 people. I`m pretty f.ucking sure that isn`t going to happen with a hammer.
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Male 10,111
5Cats

"it`s "per capita" that is important."

Jesus. Do you really think that is all that is important? So by your rationale if some guy in a tiny town in Kansas kills his wife that tiny town is now more dangerous than Detroit because their per capita rate is higher? Come on. Context comes into play here don`t you think?

If you go by JUST this list then the tiny country of Montserrat is 4 times as dangerous as the United States because ONE PERSON was murdered there in the entire year.

Eliminate all the tiny countries and what are you left with? A bunch of third world countries mostly in Africa and Central America. Oh, and Russia.

America should be proud of being safer than those countries?

I`ve said this before, for me, this is NOT about one person being able to kill one person. You will never stop that. This is about one person being able to kill dozens of people. Hence your comic is POINTLESS.


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Male 1,293
HolyGod

No, it makes perfect sense because in the USA more people are murdered with hammers and clubs of some form than with rifles. It is the obsession with crimes just because of media attention and on knee-jerk responses that would do nothing to prevent that crime (such as the idiot Obama`s laughable executive orders) that makes no sense.
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Male 1,625
drunk driving doesn`t kill people anymore
2nd hand smoke hasn`t been shown to be harmful

guess what smagboy? there are rules about who can have guns and where they`re allowed. it seems I hit close to home on that one, based on your reaction
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Male 4,431
[quote]tobacco`s and alcohol`s only purposes are to kill people, yet they`re legal[/quote]

Those are self-ingested. They aren`t used to kill others. And when it`s found they do (like in the case of 2nd hand smoke), guess the eff what?! We pass laws against that! See how easy that is?
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Male 1,625
@rodin: its actually a passage of water

[quote]strait[/quote]
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Female 1,008
Let`s see if this GIF works here. I think it`s appropriate.


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Male 892
So let me get this strait -- is it the guns or the people that kill people?
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Male 1,625
tobacco`s and alcohol`s only purposes are to kill people, yet they`re legal
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Male 5,626
"guns have no purpose but to kill people"
Language and logic are important: A gun may be used to kill. It`s not guaranteed its use is against a person.

@tedgp
That is an exaggeration. Mexico outweighs the US by 5 times.

The US outweighs the rest in >>recognized<< "mentally ill violence" incidents.
Doesn`t even mean US has more mentally ill people per scale.

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Male 41,141
@tedgp: Edumicate Your Sorry Self

Keep in mind that the USA is the 3rd largest country in the world (population) so YEAH the "raw numbers" are high, but it`s "per capita" that is important.
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Female 2,549
The fourth panel will make perfect sense with about 30 more bodies strewn about & also an additional panel showing the character with violent history not able to buy a gun.
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Male 41,141
Hey Europeans! How`s that whole: Governments Mass-Murdering their own people thing working out for you?
Armenia
Holodomor
Holocaust
Post-WW2
Iron Curtain

There`s more, plenty more...
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Male 41,141
@earplay: Yeah, Burroughs seems an unlikely source of wisdom, but he was a really smart guy! He loved cats, guns, drugs & booze.

"Assault Weapons" are ALREADY illegal! Or very, very hard to get. Background check, 1 year wait, super-clean record & etc.

Clip size? How big is "too big"? 30? 20? 10? 5? 3?
If 3 men break into your home, and you have time to grab 1 gun, it had better have 15+ bullets in it because you`ll likely run out before you`ve managed to stop them all.

MOST mass killers do NOT use "extended clips" because they`re bulky. Hiding a pistol with an enormous clip isn`t as easy, eh? Plus they just have 2 guns and 4 clips, reloading as neccessary, since they choose GUN FREE zones and no one will shot them...
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Male 3,285
@andrew155 it seems youa re completely ignoring the fact that the US has the highest number of gun crimes anywhere in the world.

You talk about "deadliest shootings" that were pretty obviously committed by an insane person, yet you fail to mention the frequency of said crimes.
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Male 2,578
Europeans, please change. Actually, I don`t mean that. I don`t generalize a population like you do, malikymoo, and I don`t think my culture is superior.

But in terms of shooting rampages go, why is Europe considered so much better? The most deadly shooting ever was in Europe, in Norway.

Out of the top 5 deadliest school shootings, only two were in America - Newtown and Virginia Tech. One was in the UK and the other two were in Germany.

So even if things were better in Europe, rampage shootings aren`t really that much better. There have been mass shootings in the Netherlands, Belgium, France...even the UK recently. In the Alphen aan den Rijn shooting, the shooter even had a so called "assault style" weapon.

Basically, get off your high horse.
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Male 121
@5Cats WS Burroughs!? I always base my reasoning on an old man whose brains have been fried by drugs (irony, no sarcasm, sorry). I`ve had weapons since I was seven years old. I`ve hunted and been on an Army Combat Rifle team (for marksmanship, been a cop) and worked at a lot of hard labor, urban and rural. I hope that covers it for slut etta (protection from varmints?). If you are rural, you can`t beat a legal shotgun. There is no need for assault weapons and high cap magazines to be available to the general public. 5Cats, when I was in special ops, I was never issued matches or a home-made bomb for combat. Maybe you should make your views known to the military. They are always looking for more efficient tools of the trade. Wonder why they don`t use your suggestions?
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Female 2,026
..americans. please change
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Male 4,431
Oh look, we`re continuing to ignore the fact that some rules and laws make things exceptionally easier for people inclined to do so to take dozens of lives at a time, without even thinking about how we could responsibly and reasonably limit that (you know, like we do with cars, through insurance, learning requirements, licensing and age restrictions). But, by all means, blame the people trying to be responsible and save lives.
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Male 145
Oh look, we`re continuing to blame inanimate objects rather than taking personal responsibility for the society that we live in. Let`s blame others for litter on highways, too, because I don`t litter, so it`s not my fault, nor is it my responsibility. We should also blame the economy for so many people going hungry in our nation, because I have a job and I am fed.

It is sad how isolated we are in our society, taking no stock in our fellow people. It is not the job of our fractured government to take rights away in order to keep us safe from each other. No, it is our job to give a crap about those around us.

But, since we are all afraid to do anything differently than we have for so long, let`s just go on blaming guns. I mean, why not? The government obviously knows what`s best for me and how I should live my life.
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Male 41,141
Woops! That wasn`t his homepage! My bad.

Here`s an Archive of his work.

This Is Sort-Of a Homepage
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Male 4,431
Liberals mostly aren`t trying to take guns away. Why do you guys keep repeating that lie? Liberals mostly are trying to limit the kind of guns that can kill multiple people in seconds flat, trying to ensure proper background checks, trying to ensure proper licensing (you know, like we do with owning a car). I guess if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes your boogie man? And, of course, we needs guns with 100 round clips of armor piercing bullets to protect us from teh boogie man.
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Male 41,141
Because arson and bombs never hurt anyone...

Mass killers will use what methods they want, you cannot stop them by taking things away from LAW-ABIDING citizens.

"Every time someone gets shot, the liberals want to take the guns away from the people that didn`t do it!" - WS Burroughs
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Female 231
@etta
No, if you were really convicted to kill someone you wouldn`t need a gun, but what about all the people who use them to kill someone when they hardly have the will to do it themselves. Guns make the act far more easy, as they are, first and foremost, tools of killing. Would you for instance, say you have the right to own rocket launcher?

Of corse if you want my opinion I`m actually for gun ownership. We need to stop making things illegal out of fear that someone might get hurt again, and just live with the fact that there are stupid people around. Who are simply going to do really stupid things. Nobody needs to be punished because of this.

And so`s you guys know, because this seems to be the go to argument around here, the word liberal and conservative get thrown around WAY too much. Tired of it, say it Ironically, or sarcastically but it`s not an actual response to some of the postes. I`m looking at both sides, By the by.
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Male 41,141
@jtrebowski: I remember it! The Republicans weren`t happy with "The Brady Bill" at all! They managed to water it down and make the SO-CALLED "assault weapon ban" a temporary measure, that`s why it passed.
A lot of Republican arms were twisted, BY fellow Republicans.

Y`all don`t remember that? Next you`ll forget "The Maine!" eh?

Steve Kelly is the creator of this, here`s his homepage!
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Female 41
@drawman61 Ha! Nailed it
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Male 13,630
drawman61 -
As he says
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Male 7,774

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Male 3,372
Anyone remember the outrage at Reagan when he proposed gun control because someone put a cap in HIS ass? me neither.
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Male 1,832
@technophebe You can also kill animals with guns.
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Male 25
Baseball bat. Uses: Baseball.
Rope. Uses: Towing cars; etc.
Knife. Uses: Preparing food; etc.
Gun. Uses: Killing people; giving willfully ignorant morons a reason to come up with irrational arguments to keep their loud, lethal man-toys.

Did I miss anything?
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Female 4,084
@shaustin and macguffin. to me, and many people who live in rural areas, a gun is a tool. it protects me and mine from snakes, varmints, and assorted crazies who would do bad things to us.

a hammer also is a tool and another implement which can be used to kill. however hammering a rattlesnake to death before it bites your toddler is a little difficult and quite problematic.

i don`t debate gun control because i believe that people kill people. nearly anything can be used to kill another human if you are so determined. taking away my guns would not and could not prevent me from killing another human if that was my unstoppable intention.

its obvious by your comments that you have no real experience, either with tools or with guns, and so i find you rather unqualified to make blanket assumptions.
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Male 25
Baseball bat. Uses: Baseball.
Rope. Uses: Towing cars; etc.
Knife. Uses: Preparing food; etc.
Gun. Uses: Killing people; giving willfully ignorant morons a reason to come up with irrational arguments to keep their loud, lethal man-toys.

Did I miss anything?
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Male 687
yea...but you don`t have the equivalent of M-16 assault riffle knife
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Male 143
guns have no purpose but to kill people
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Male 4,431
Classic changing of the subject. It`s not that guns kill. It`s that guns make killing, and specifically killing more than one person, a lot easier than clubs, garrotes or knives. But, hey, whatever works to distract from 20 dead elementary school children, by all means, let`s.
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Female 2,602
One of these implements is not like the others: one is designed for the sole purpose of killing.
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Male 3,285
yawn.
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Female 43
True dat.
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Male 41,141
Link: The Root Of The Problem [Pic] [Rate Link] - It isn`t guns that kill people.
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