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  1. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2013 at 12:34 pm
    Link: Sandy Hook Was Staged To Increase Gun Control? - Anderson Cooper says conspiracy theorists imagined Aurora and Sandy Hook, etc., have been staged to support gun control.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    January 12, 2013 at 1:01 pm
    I have heard this, that an intelligent academic should be so far into tin foil hat territory scares me..
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    January 12, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    If you believe this, kindly leap off the edge of the planet and solve all our problems. (You know, the edge of the planet, the thing those "Round Earthers" haven`t wanted you to know about for 500 yrs).
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    lungcancerz Male 30-39
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    January 12, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    my first though when i heard was it was staged. when it was first reported and the weapons that were used it was said he only used 2 handguns and the AR-15 was left in his car. Hours later that was changed and the AR was used mainly in the spree. I wouldn`t be surprised that reports were changed for a political spin.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2013 at 1:51 pm
    lungcancerz, you realize what you`re saying is that not one, not two, but *all* networks changed their reports for "political spin"? And that, not only that, but the police and other adults who were there, in the school, didn`t speak up when these supposed "spins" came out?! Seriously?
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    January 12, 2013 at 2:02 pm
    Well the DOJ did provide firearms to Mexican criminals. The conspiracy theory itself might be absurd, but the idea that the US government would help kill people for political support for gun control is hardly a stretch, given that they have already helped kill over 200 people for exactly that reason.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    January 12, 2013 at 2:04 pm
    madduck

    "I have heard this, that an intelligent academic should be so far into tin foil hat territory scares me."

    You have obviously never heard the outpourings of the trendy "whatever special-interest group" studies departments of European and US universities.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    January 12, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Even if it were true and it began to leak out, the press would bury it like they every else for Obama.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2013 at 3:11 pm
    Yeah, the event HAD to be staged, because no one ever went nuts and slaughtered strangers before, ever.

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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2013 at 3:25 pm
    We are aware there are theories out there.

    But regardless of this theory, which I don`t care for, I don`t like an attitude that is so dismissive of all conspiracy theories, labeling the people as "tin foil hate" people. They do happen. Gulf of Tonkin did happen. It was a conspiracy that led 60,000 Americans to their deaths.

    MKULTRA, Watergate, Tuskegee....Fast and Furious, it`s important to question things with these in mind.
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    lt633c Male 50-59
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    January 12, 2013 at 3:28 pm
    Anderson wasted his time on this story.....the guy is a whack......as for the change in stories on how it happened, and which guns were used.......that was caused by alleged "journalist`s" inability to wait one friggin second to talk to someone who really knows what happened to get the facts straight......they insist on broadcasting everything they find out, from any source, just for the chance of getting the news out first......I watched several news shows that day as the events unfolded.....NOBODY got anything right on any station at any point until after the police briefing......the speculation was outragous...."two guns, four guns, lone suspect, two suspects, red van with a window blown out, suspects that fled the scene, rifle used, rifle not used found in the car, suspect`s father and brother dead in NJ, No wait they`re alive !...The brother is the other suspect"...there`s more.......it was a mongolian cluster f**k.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2013 at 3:38 pm
    ...the press would bury it like they every else for Obama

    SCfan, I`ve noticed how in the tank for Obama FOXNews is. You`re probably right, they`re always shilling for him.
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    Modwain Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    not sure if anyone said this allready but.. well.. tinfoilhead time
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    January 12, 2013 at 4:14 pm
    I hoped he enjoyed teaching.
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
    509 posts
    January 12, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    Agent Provocateur. Guess this will help diminish gun support huh?
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    lungcancerz Male 30-39
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    January 12, 2013 at 5:10 pm
    which is more acceptable. that a madman killed a group of children for no reason or that they were sacrificed for the perceived greater good. Our government and people around it are familiar with the idea of acceptable losses. 20 children to save an imagined millions. I can believe Feinstein danced a jig and cheered before putting on a sad face for the cameras when she heard the news of Newtown.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 12, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    There`s not enough tinfoil in the world to make a hat big enough for that guy.
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    lovinitmtboy Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2013 at 5:37 pm
    I dont think there is enough evidence that he said anything crazy. There is no journalistic integrity in America. What I want to know, is why Anderson Cooper would directly try to destroy this person. I love AC, but this made me lose respect for him.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2013 at 5:57 pm
    While I defend their right to own guns, I must also defend their right to say stupid 5h17 like this.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2013 at 6:01 pm
    Good job not having him there to defend himself.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 12, 2013 at 6:02 pm
    False Flag: It`s on prime TV because why?
    > 1,000,000s believe it? Nope!
    > It makes the White House look bad? Nope!
    > It makes The White House look good? BINGO!

    This is a NON-STORY pushed by CNN to make any who dare oppose Obama look bad. The Counter-Intelligence Program has been doing this stuff for 50+ years now.

    As I said: there`s NO NEED to "stage" a mass killing. Just wait and the odds are it WILL happen. If it`s small? Blow it out of proportion! Zimmerman VS Martin, remember that?
    If it`s big (like Newton) well there you go!

    NO conspiracy needed to make it happen. Just a willing MSM to make sure only ONE message is repeated. Over and over again.

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    carmium Female 50-59
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    January 12, 2013 at 7:03 pm
    Solvent:
    Did you even listen to the vid? Cooper spoke to a reporter who virtually pursued him plus he was invited him directly to appear on Cooper`s show. He refused all contact.
    I try to stay cool on IAB, but yours was a really a stupid comment.
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    skullgrin Male 18-29
    937 posts
    January 12, 2013 at 7:14 pm
    I know the cops that where there...and they are the ones who killed lanza, so no we are not getting the full and accurate story. We are getting what "they" want us to hear. In defense of the media they were not given the accurate information - they did report it how they were given it, but they were given it wrong.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2013 at 7:22 pm
    @Carmium. You go, girl. I second your exasperation with Solvent`s remark.
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    DubleU Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2013 at 7:54 pm
    The only thing to make me believe this if Westboro Baptist Church were involved in the shooting so I can see them arrested, have their church shut down and never have to hear from those hypocritical bigots ever again.
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    gymcoach29 Male 30-39
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    January 12, 2013 at 8:23 pm
    Although this particular case is absurd, If you think for a moment that the government is beyond such reprehensible acts, you are a fool. Our Government will stop at virtually nothing to gain more power over the people and will lie about anything. The JFK assassination, Benghazi are just 2 instances the the government lies for their own benefit.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    January 12, 2013 at 8:51 pm
    it is very clear from watching this anderson cooper peice, that it is no longer acceptable to question what any mainstrem media puts forward as "truth" and if you do, you are immediatly made to look like a kook and a guntoting madman. It is also plainly obvious, if one bothers to even scratch the surface of the official sandy hook and auroura shootings, that there is something very fishing going on. It should worry you, when people accept blindly what is given as fact, and no longer even dare to question.
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    lt633c Male 50-59
    143 posts
    January 12, 2013 at 9:18 pm
    @gymcoach29

    I don`t think our government is actually committing the reprehensible acts, just covering them up when they happen, like the ones you mentioned........and they aren`t very good at it. The Warren Commission report was a joke. Can`t wait for Princes Hillary to testify,
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    SpermNinja81 Male 30-39
    459 posts
    January 12, 2013 at 9:18 pm
    Anything`s possible in regards to the covert dealings and doings of any government, but people want to see conspiracy and mystery behind everything. take a look at every large scale disaster or tragedy in the last 100 years and you`ll find some sort of alternate theory.
    I`m a firm believer in the principles of Occam`s Razor though, The simplest explanation is usually the truest. why is it less possible that A disturbed individual was capable of this than a overly-complex plot by the US government? there would be too many people aware, too many involved, too many to keep quiet.
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    Runemang Male 30-39
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    January 12, 2013 at 10:19 pm
    Yeah, I saw that coming.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    January 13, 2013 at 2:22 am
    I haven`t read anything. Don`t want to. Just want to say hi.
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    Pandabee Female 40-49
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    January 13, 2013 at 2:46 am
    silly man
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    January 13, 2013 at 5:28 am
    Or, what Sandy Hook staged to increase gun sells?

    I`ve not seen much gun control come from this shooting yet, but I have seen a 350% boost in gun sales. I`ve seen AR-15 lower receivers that used to cost $200-$250 start selling for $800-$1,000.

    I`ve seen a lot more growth in selling of guns than I have in the prevention of them.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 13, 2013 at 6:57 am

    The more they push for gun control, the more I want to go out & buy a gun. I`ve had guns in the past, but don`t currently have one.

    Maybe the NRA is staging these shootings to increase sales.
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    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
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    January 13, 2013 at 8:30 am
    Frankly, I don`t see anything wrong with *responsible* gun control laws. Note - I said responsible - not knee-jerk reactionary laws put in place because of a tragedy.

    I am all for freedom, including for firearms - but if you are a responsible gun owner, then you should be willing to prove that you are safe (through courses, certifications, etc. including refresher courses on a preset interval basis), and sane (through background checks including checking for mental health issues and/or hospital stays).

    I read so many screaming that the gov`t doesn`t limit your ability to own or drive a car - it`s a weapon - but they do. You have to have a license, insurance and be responsible and get it renewed.

    If you can provide proof that you are big boy enough to have all those guns and ammo, more power to you. If you can`t (or won`t), go back to your Legos and Lincoln Logs and come back when you grow up.
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    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
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    January 13, 2013 at 8:38 am
    Oh, and before all of you try to eat me for lunch - note that I didn`t say anything in there about registering your guns, or limiting your ammo, or anything else.

    What I am talking about shines the spotlight on the owner, and not the weapons. I don`t care if you have 2 or 20,000 - qualify yourself as responsible and more power to you.

    And yes - I am qualified, from pea shooters up to (thanks to our government) 20MM depleted uranium rounds. But that doesn`t mean I think that just *anybody* should have a gun.
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    Wundt Male 40-49
    410 posts
    January 13, 2013 at 9:55 am
    I think Cooper is right to call out this idiot, as an idiot, but I also think it is okay for this idiot to write and say what he wants, even as a prof at a state university. Ultimately, Cooper did exactly what he said he didn`t want to do, and gave this guy the attention he wanted.

    For me, I cannot understand how anyone can oppose reasonable gun control. We place reasonable limits on speech, on voting rights, etc. But, if you mention limiting gun rights... people go crazy.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    January 13, 2013 at 3:31 pm

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    swiftkeys Male 18-29
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    January 13, 2013 at 5:18 pm
    Anderson coopers in on it.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    January 13, 2013 at 8:58 pm
    I`ve never seen AC before. But this is really weird, it`s just a series of monologues. Is that supposed to make me believe anything he says?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    January 13, 2013 at 9:26 pm
    So, a couple of guys from the tinfoil-hat brigade float an idiotic conspiracy theory, and the liberal media uses that to slander 49% of the country, right? Where were they when Ward Churchill was committing blatant academic fraud and spewing his verbal vomit at a taxpayer-funded university? As I recall, most of them were defending his right of academic freedom and his status as a tenured professor.

    And where`s the outrage at the government for ACTUALLY concocting and executing a scheme that resulted in HUNDREDS of murders just so they would have an excuse to violate the 2nd amendment rights of law-abiding Americans? Can you say "Fast and Furious?"
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
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    January 14, 2013 at 5:43 am
    That`s not right for them to do that to him. Who cares what he thinks. Don`t publicly try to get a nation to despise him. Not cool.
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
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    January 14, 2013 at 7:02 am
    I see a lot of character assassination of the professor. I don`t see any directly provided information to counter his claim.

    Looking at the interview at 4:33, I agree her behavior feels odd but, if I were looking at it cold, I`d say she seems a little medicated.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 14, 2013 at 7:43 am


    Yep no agenda there....
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 14, 2013 at 7:47 am
    You`ll see more of this tin foil hattery on the news though it helps paint gun owners.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    January 14, 2013 at 8:11 am
    looking deeper at world events and not simply grabbing at the surface value is a good thing, and though i do disagree with this man`s opinion, he is entitled to it. that is his right and i respect it as that.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    January 14, 2013 at 8:21 am
    as to gun ownership, most civilian owners are hunters, sportsmen, so on. i live in a tight block apartment complex and own 2 guns myself, both safely stored away in a locked safe. until recently i had absolutely no idea that the old man living next door is in fact too a gun owner, and that after living here for 4 years and many casual conversations.
    the fact is most civilian gun owners are everyday people with a hobby who lead everyday lives. some people like to go play football, some like to go practice martial arts, so on. not everyone has the same hobbies and you can`t openly go finger pointing saying "that persons a terrible monster!" just for enjoying something you might not. also we gun owners do not support these sorts of shootings, wars, murder, so on, those things are criminal and pretty damned low on the moral scale. however, we also do not like being rammed in the same mixed bag with them or being blamed for their actions. think who you´re actually o
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    January 14, 2013 at 8:22 am
    *out to bring to justice. silly cutoff at the end there.
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    shaustin Male 18-29
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    January 14, 2013 at 1:19 pm
    sounds just like a criminal minds episode.. sounds like a much more logical motive to me than just some guy being angry
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    Issame Female 30-39
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    January 16, 2013 at 9:59 am
    Gun advocates are hardly the only tin foil hat lovers around.

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