Rockin' in the free world since 2005.

[Total: 27    Average: 2.9/5]
119 Comments - View/Add
Hits: 7625
Rating: 2.9
Category:
Date: 01/06/13 11:05 AM

119 Responses to Mother Of 2 Surprises Intruder With A .38 Revolver

  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31766 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:10 am
    Link: Mother Of 2 Surprises Intruder With A .38 Revolver - Shoots bad guy 5 times. In Canada she`d be arrested. In ``gun free America`` she and her kids would be raped and dead.
  2. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:16 am

    In "gun free America" she and her kids would be raped and dead.

    Oh, 5 cats (canned laughter).

    I thought the actual crime being committed here was burglary, but I could been wrong. Maybe he was a child rapist on the side and in a former life was actually Jimmy Hoffa too?
  3. Profile photo of ScottSerious
    ScottSerious Male 18-29
    5316 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:19 am
    Did he died?
  4. Profile photo of Evil_Eye
    Evil_Eye Male 18-29
    1443 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:25 am
    See, they do report on people being saved by guns. I hear stories like this once or twice a month. The stories on gun crime I hear once or twice a week. And those are only the bigger stories.

    Also the man did not have a rape record, so why would they have been raped?
  5. Profile photo of Kcorb
    Kcorb Male 30-39
    61 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:26 am
    In Canada, he might have be employed. In Canada, he might have been on EI. In Canada, he may have had help in prison the 5 previous arrests. In Canada, his vehicle may have not started because it was too cold out. In Canada, the family may have been killed in wintery road conditions 5 years earlier.

    Comparing Canada to the US is silly. They are different. One is not better than the other, except in everyone`s own personal opinion. You can always move there if you like.

    Personally, I like imperfect Canada the way it is. Why are you always trolling 5Cats?
  6. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:28 am
    That is bull$hit @5cats. You presuppose that one would absolutely be arrested in Canada, which is blatantly false, and then go on to imply that people shooting intruders in their home in the US are never arrested, which is also bull$hit. I`m a province away and I can still smell you on the wind from here.
  7. Profile photo of Bakcagain21
    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
    560 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:30 am
    @MacGuffin you don`t know the guys motives any more then then 5cats and being the criminal entering someone else`s house unfortunately you abandon the right to say it was only a burglary how is she meant to tell the difference between a rapist and burglar.
  8. Profile photo of MrPeabody
    MrPeabody Male 30-39
    1920 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:33 am
    the man did not have a rape record

    I thought the actual crime being committed here was burglary...

    I`m sure that`s what she was thinking as he was breaking through the door.
  9. Profile photo of botfly
    botfly Male 50-59
    616 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:47 am
    Yeah 5cats, maybe he didn`t have his rapist merit badge yet.
  10. Profile photo of markust123
    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:52 am
    The only thing I see wrong with this is 5Cats`s moronic tag line. I`m hoping for his sake that the mods changed that to make him look stupid.

    The woman took her kids and hid in a crawl space. She didn`t just fire on him from the front room (although she would have been in the right there also). If you are going to break into someones house you take the risk that you will be shot.
  11. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36187 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:58 am

    And that is why we have guns.
  12. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:03 pm
    She could have stabbed him, or just hit him with a rolling pin. After all, you lead-heads are always telling us those implements are just as dangerous as guns.
  13. Profile photo of Mikeoxsbiggg
    Mikeoxsbiggg Male 30-39
    1502 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Someone breaks into my house they are going to get a throwing knife in the face, if they are lucky. Might be a sword in the gut.
    I don`t care if I get arrested. I won`t get time.
    Thats if I even call the cops. Which I wouldn`t.
  14. Profile photo of markust123
    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    Gotta go. Seahawks are in the playoffs.
  15. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:21 pm
    Mikeoxsbiggg you mean to tell me you could kill without the use of a gun?? My mind is blown.
  16. Profile photo of onoffonoffon
    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
    2308 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    Shot five times in the face and neck. That is more proof that handgun cartridges lack sufficient velocity to effectively stop someone. That is why rifle rounds are always used when you want absolute stopping effect. That is why handguns will never and should never replace rifles.
  17. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:31 pm
    @5cats, i`ve said it before, deep down inside of you is a nice guy, you just need to keep your mouth shut so you don`t ruin it for that guy.
    There is no evidence what so ever that this guy was going to kill and rape her and her kids.
    Secondly you don`t need a gun to defend yourself. i`ll show you one time, but it might hurt.
    as for for your opinion about the legal side of it. read the other comments.
    As for the mum shooting the guy,- well done, i would have done the same in that situation.
  18. Profile photo of ferdyfred
    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13600 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:39 pm
    Last time someone broke into my house the snake bit him, then the dog humped him
  19. Profile photo of ferdyfred
    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13600 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:41 pm
    To be said 5cats that is a provocative troll like post there dude
  20. Profile photo of madduck
    madduck Female 50-59
    7421 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:57 pm
    Thank You Mr Orange- you summed my thoughts nicely...... so pleased we do not have guns.
  21. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31766 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 12:59 pm
    Article Link Here Doesn`t offer much more info, but there you go!

    @MacGuffin: He assaulted before, and criminals NEVER try new types of crimes? What exactly are you suggesting? She was perfectly safe?

    @ScottSerious: No, took 5 bullets to the face & shoulder area. Tried to drive his truch away after she fled.

    @Evil_Eys: These stories happen a lot, but they`re "not newsworthy" if the skin colours are wrong, if no one dies, or if kids aren`t involved. This one had a female and kids in it, so it got "some" coverage.

    Sorry @markust: My moronic tagline! @Fancy or @The_Mods fixed a couple of them recently, but this one`s "on me". Oh, and it`s true, what it says.
  22. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 1:01 pm
    BEWARE OF FERDIES DOG



    He likes sexy times!
  23. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31766 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    @madduck: How would you have defended your children in this case? Harsh language?

    Or just waited for the police to arrive... perhaps made the burglar a spot of tea? Some crumpets witht that, eh?
  24. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 1:21 pm
    @5cats, you must own a massive shovel collection to keep digging yourself into that hole. you think that because she`s female she can`t defend herself other then by talking or cooking? i`ll introduce you to some of the ladies i trained with.. they will explain the wonders of feminism to you with more impact then i could...
  25. Profile photo of LordJim
    LordJim Male 60-69
    6650 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 1:23 pm
    Good result.
  26. Profile photo of furrything
    furrything Male 50-59
    1308 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    That poor darkie! I`ll just bet he was `traaan ta turn his laaaaf around` as well. A real tragedy! Good lass....ought`ve popped a couple in his crotch for good measure!
  27. Profile photo of lauriloo
    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    "Shot five times in the face and neck. That is more proof that handgun cartridges lack sufficient velocity to effectively stop someone. That is why rifle rounds are always used when you want absolute stopping effect. That is why handguns will never and should never replace rifles."

    Guess you`re psychic. MY psychic thoughts are, he was thinking about getting out of there right after the first bullet hit but then the rest hit him before he had the chance to run. But, hey, you`re just doing what a typical gun owner does to justify arming themselves to the teeth against their imaginary superhuman monster coming for their door at any minute. My psychic powers also tell me that if she had yelled to let him know someone was in the house, he would have ran away and no shots would have been needed at all. Burglars don`t want to have to deal with people in the house. Why the hell do you think he rang the bell first?? duh!
  28. Profile photo of Bakcagain21
    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
    560 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:10 pm
    @MrOrange are you sooo moronic you can`t understand that a women alone in a house with her children might be scared and think better to remove all doubt as to what this guys motives are by removing him then see what the guy`s motives were. Say there was a 0.01% chance the guy would rape her and her kids. That`s her choice if she want`s to take that risk after he enters her house uninvited. Yes some women are able to protect themselves more then men, but not every women is trained like the ones you knew.
  29. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    how is she meant to tell the difference between a rapist and burglar.

    A burglar steals your stuff, a rapist phucks you first. Do I have to spell *everything* out for you guys?
  30. Profile photo of Cartunze
    Cartunze Male 60-69
    841 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:33 pm
    A gun owner`s wet dream: A chance to legally murder someone. And be called a hero too. It doesn`t get any better than that.
  31. Profile photo of ferdyfred
    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13600 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:34 pm
    MattPrince

    BEWARE OF FERDIES DOG

    Damn you got it to a tee there dude

    mirror image of winston the humper
  32. Profile photo of Scuzoid
    Scuzoid Male 30-39
    1268 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    According to the story, and most likely the blood splatter, the woman was hiding in her attic with her children before she fired a single bullet. I`m sorry, but when a "burglar" proceeds all the way to the third floor attic instead of just taking the Tv, computer, and maybe some jewelry from the first two floors, who the frak thinks to themselves "Oh, he`s probably not dangerous, just an unfortunate soul."
  33. Profile photo of MrPeabody
    MrPeabody Male 30-39
    1920 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    @MacGuffin
    You seem to have forgot.
  34. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:47 pm
    MrOrange: Maybe a few women out of a hundred are fit enough to disable a man, single-handedly. And that only after hundreds of hours of fitness training and working out. A handgun is the great equalizer.
  35. Profile photo of Dead-Kittens
    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
    1038 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:48 pm
    Also that jab about Canada isnt entirely untrue...I had some wingnut jump 3 balconies (3rd floor) in the middle of winter years ago...guy busted in and ran and hid in my closet..I went apepoo and he bolted and locked him self in the bathroom.. He called the cops from the closet becaue he `had seen some lebanese guy with a knife in the other guys apartment...long story short when the cops got there i was put on the ground and handcuffed while that lunatic was runnng around my apartment for 20 minutes.. shoulda just shot him.
  36. Profile photo of Zeegrr60
    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
    2105 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 2:58 pm
    Oh HELL Yeah! Have fun in jail,buddy.Good job,Lady.
  37. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31766 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 3:12 pm
    @Mr.Orange: I`ll lay my money on the convict with a crowbar over the 37 year old UNARMED Mom, 99 times out of 100 he`s going to win.

    If she has "training"? 98 times out of 100...

    And don`t forget the 9 year olds! They`re fierce like tigers in combat!

    But keep trying, you might make a valid point eventually! By accident...
  38. Profile photo of BoredFrank
    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2197 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 3:33 pm
    It`s *always* funny when burglars get shot. Always. I don`t give a damn if they are absolute lambs who wouldn`t hurt a fly -- as soon as they break into a stranger`s house, phucke them dead. Too bad that jackhole lived.
  39. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 4:13 pm
    @Bakcagain21
    learn to read first moron: "As for the mum shooting the guy,- well done, i would have done the same in that situation."
  40. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 4:21 pm
    @CrakrJak

    sorry to shatter your frail male ego, but give me three weeks to train a woman and she`ll deal with about 95% of the males you can throw at her. stereotypical male thinking that you are stronger therefore you will win. there is such a things as knowing what to do, and having the confidence to use those skills.
  41. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 4:26 pm
    @5Cats i`ve made more valid points last week whilst being so stoned that even rocks thought they were fast compared to me,- then you will in a lifetime. Do keep trying though, you`lle get better at it.. one day.. after they give you that chimpanzee brain transplant.
  42. Profile photo of turdburglar
    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4710 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    lauriloo gets my vote for stupidst comment of the thread.

    Cartunze is a very close second.

    Only a effin retard would have ANY sympathy for the criminal. Equally retarded to demonize the woman who saved lives and was completely within her rights.
  43. Profile photo of slut_etta
    slut_etta Female 50-59
    3771 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 4:36 pm
    good for her! as i`ve already said on this site, we`re involved in a nasty custody battle, being threatened at most every turn. when my old man works nights i sleep with the gun next to me. whoever, and i don`t much care who, gets past the dogs takes their chances. even w/out my glasses on, i can shoot straight.
  44. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 4:58 pm
    @slut_etta Girl, what kind of mess did you get yourself into? out of all the guy`s in the world you could have had... you walked into a situation where you have to sleep with a firearm under you pillow becuase of his ex/kid? if i were you i`d reconsider my options. i know i know.. love right? i f--king hope he treats you like royalty for the rest of your lives together.
  45. Profile photo of swiftkeys
    swiftkeys Male 18-29
    500 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 5:24 pm
    Good for her. Someone breaks into your home, shoot them.
  46. Profile photo of Clemy
    Clemy Male 18-29
    24 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 5:38 pm
    Later that day she drove to a local elementary school and killed 20 people.
  47. Profile photo of ForSquirel
    ForSquirel Male 30-39
    2054 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 5:41 pm
    The NRA should send her some ammo to replace what she shot.. Good for mother bear protecting her cubs.
  48. Profile photo of Fantom2993
    Fantom2993 Male 18-29
    342 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 6:09 pm
    Clemy, stop posting, you`re a real piece of poo. She did what she needed to to protect her children, and it has nothing to do with killing innocent people. Kindly go die somewhere.
  49. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31766 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 6:15 pm
    but give me three weeks to train a woman and she`ll deal with about 95% of the males you can throw at her.
    You stoned again @Mr.Orange? Strong stuff!

    The defense of a smaller person vs a bigger one depends almost entirely on "shock and surprise". Followed by running away (if you`re sane).

    If the larger foe is alert, serious and properly motivated? The smaller one`s "trick" had better work perfectly or it`s over in seconds. If both sides "play without rules" then 80% of all males will defeat 80% of all females. 3 weeks of training helps, otherwise it`s 90/90... just a guess of course.
    How many female "MMA Fighters" are in there with the boys their same weight? ZERO.

    Add a crowbar to the large foe`s side and it`s really, seriously one-sided.
  50. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 6:17 pm
    The best burglar is a dead burglar. Don`t want to get shot? Don`t break into someones house. Pretty simple, really. People are crying because 5 rounds was too many, or that she should have yelled that someone was in the house? F*ck that, should have shot him 10 times. Worthless scumbag has nothing good to offer society. Good riddance.
  51. Profile photo of DFWBrysco
    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
    307 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 6:36 pm
    Gwinett county? Not surprising - might have just said that her husband was her brother and many years ago, Grandpa was the kid with the banjo in Deliverance.
  52. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 6:36 pm
    A gun owner`s wet dream: A chance to legally murder someone. And be called a hero too

    My liberal side feels dumber just from reading this.

    but give me three weeks to train a woman and she`ll deal with about 95% of the males you can throw at her

    Give a woman 2 minutes she`ll be ready fend off 95% itchin to violate her property.
  53. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3435 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 8:52 pm
    I`m sorry that the burglar got shot...

    and lived.
  54. Profile photo of chalket
    chalket Male 50-59
    2712 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 9:40 pm
    There`s no doubt that having and knowing how to use a firearm (well, sort of... 5 outa 6 "in the face and neck area" at point blank range and not one lethal hit?) saved this woman and her kids from some kind of bad situation but for 5Rats to jump on it with "she and her kids would be raped and dead" is simply asinine trolling. For all we know, the intruder might have said, "Didn`t think anyone was home! I`m outa here!" It`s just as likely, probably more so. Who knows how this guy might`ve reacted if he`d been faced with a knife or a baseball bat or a tazer instead?

    There will never be (and very few even want) a "gun-free America" yet 5Rats has to grasp at any tragedy or horrific news story trying to promote his particular vision of how America should be. (You`d think the asshat lived here!) I should point out though that this woman didn`t need a 30-round weapon to successfully defend her family.
  55. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 10:26 pm
    Who knows how this guy might`ve reacted if he`d been faced with a knife or a baseball bat or a tazer instead?
    Well, if he`d had a gun, and she`d pulled a knife or a bat, she`d be dead. Now the question is, who knows what would have happened to the kids?
  56. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:00 pm
    A gun owner`s wet dream: A chance to legally murder someone. And be called a hero too.
    This is proof: liberalism truly is a mental disease.
  57. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:42 pm
    MrOrange: You might be able to teach a mother to kick a guy in the nuts, but that doesn`t make her mentally prepared to do so when her children are with her. A mother`s instinct is to protect, not go on the offensive.

    Give it a 1/3rd of that time, one week, and a gun instructor could teach her to be a crack-shot with a handgun and she`ll be mentally prepared to use it as well. Why? because she won`t have to be within arms reach to defend herself.
  58. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 6, 2013 at 11:58 pm
    @5Cats even if i was stoned, and even if it was strong stuff, my brain would function at a level that yours will never reach. Go play with some crayons.
  59. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 12:16 am
    @CrakrJak

    Actualy any parents instinct is to protect his or her offspring. as for your claim about women not going to the offensive, the way the limbic brain is hardwired is that any lifeform will either fight flight or freeze and those three options are the same for any gender. the fight reaction can be "trained" by building up "subconsious" or "instinctive" reactions (basicaly what they do in ze army for example) the "instinctive" reactions i`m sugesting might include a kick to the groin, but i preffer pressure point and locks among others, and those would include the option of never having the attacker walk away,(which he did this time after being shot 5 times.) wether you go for for physical skills or a gun, you still have to overcome your flight/freeze reaction. I agree though guns are a great tool for self defense, but people tend to put to much valua on it, ....
  60. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 12:19 am
    We need more stories like this. I wonder how many more there are out there? Probably at least as many as the heinous killing sprees that we`ve been traumatized by?
  61. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 12:26 am
    in this case it appears the guy rang the doorbell (which would indicate he was trying to rob the place, i mean, who warns their potential rape victim?) so she had time to prepare, i wonder what would have happend if he walked in through the backdoor and suprised her) this is where the flight/freeze happens) would she have had enough time to grab her gun, take aim and shoot before she had her head kicked in? guns are just one aspect of self defense and have their valua only in certian situations, just like pepperspray/tasers/physical skills/etc.
  62. Profile photo of CreamK
    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 12:36 am
    This getting a bit thick already.. 5Cats, please return to your crackpot right wing propaganda sites and stay there. This is total poo. There is no way of knowing what were his intentions, other than break&entry.. Most likely, this is actually unnecessary violence, he mother had no right to shoot. If the assailant was lunging at her, yes, shoot but this is most likely just a break&entry that escalated to extremes. 0-1 for the gun nuts.

    IAB: Please stop accepting posts from either sides. This once funny site is becoming another mudslinging fest.
  63. Profile photo of CreamK
    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 12:40 am
    What i can read from pro-gunners is the possibility of killing someone legally that attracts them.
  64. Profile photo of 3002-3038
    3002-3038 Female 18-29
    633 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 2:56 am
    becoming? lol I`ve been on this site for years, even back when most of the posts were little arcade games and quizzes. There has ALWAYS been people bitching back and forth at eachother.
  65. Profile photo of drawman61
    drawman61 Male 50-59
    7707 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 3:04 am
    OMG, all my anti-americans with guns has just been blown out of the water.
    Isn`t it time the law said that if someone enters your home illegally they forfeit any rights and legal standing they have? In other words, if they come to any harm by your hand, tough.
  66. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 3:35 am
    @CrakrJak

    "A mother`s instinct is to protect, not go on the offensive."

    You`re single, male, with no children, and you are many, MANY years away from the memories of your own childhood.

    Why do you think you`re qualified to say what a mother`s instincts are?
  67. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 3:38 am
    @Suicism

    You need more stories like this? Is that really what you want? More stories that start with a criminal breaking into someone`s home?

    Think about that for a moment or two.
  68. Profile photo of Pinkminx22
    Pinkminx22 Female 30-39
    1081 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 3:41 am
    That is what happens when you come into the territory of a mother bear. Good for her for protecting herself and her children. I don`t feel a bit sorry for the a-hole that broke into her house, and I don`t care if his intentions were to rape her while he was there or not.. We at least know he sure as hell didn`t break into her house to bake her a cake and clean up for her. He was there to at least take things that didn`t belong to him. I`m sorry but, if someone breaks into my home I am deffinately not going to stand there and ask the guy if he is just there to take my things or, if he is going to rape and kill me while he is at it and if so, than could he just kindly stand there while I dial for the police and wait for them to get here.........Uuummmm I don`t think so. I feel that I should have the right to protect my family,myself and home and If that makes me a bad person than so be it..I don`t care, I`m protecting what is mine..
  69. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 3:43 am
    @drawman61

    "Isn`t it time the law said that if someone enters your home illegally they forfeit any rights and legal standing they have?"

    I really hate Bob.
    Hey Bob, come over my place on Saturday and we`ll have a few beers. The lock on my front door`s broken, so just let yourself in.
    Put my shoulder to my own door and smash the lock, leaving the door ajar.
    Lay in wait for Bob.
    Shoot Bob. Kill Bob.
    He broke in, officer! I thought he was going to kill me! He`s always had it in for me at the office, I just knew it! I didn`t think it was this bad though! I had to shoot! I`m not in trouble am I? I was just protecting myself!
    No? Okay, thank you officer!
    The end.
  70. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 3:48 am
    @Pinkminx22

    There are other ways to protect your property that don`t involve lethal force. Home and contents insurance springs to mind. I don`t feel property is worth protecting with violence.

    Protecting your person is another matter, and I won`t challenge you on that front. You face threats in that sense that I`m very unlikely to face, nor understand.
  71. Profile photo of Pinkminx22
    Pinkminx22 Female 30-39
    1081 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 4:09 am
    If I`m not home that`s one thing,than the home owners insurance would be the better option, because I would not be home..Than the potential to be raped and killed would no longer be there because my family and I would be removed from the situation. Possessions are just things I understand that, but if someone breaks into my home while I am there, then I would see them as a potential threat and they may not be leaving my house in one piece.
  72. Profile photo of abrxax
    abrxax Male 18-29
    73 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 4:55 am
    So...lets be rational for a moment. You are at home enjoying your free trade, organic tea. Someone kicks in your door. Are you going to offer to make them a cup? Have a nice sit down with the intruder and talk to them about their drug habit? You know people that steel from homes are reasonable, nonviolent people. They would never do anything like beat you unconscious so you can`t call the police. To them your stuff is worth physical injury...or worse to you.


    YOUR HOME IS YOUR CASTLE AND YOU HAVE A GOD, FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, GIVEN RIGHT TO DEFEND IT AS SUCH.
  73. Profile photo of abrxax
    abrxax Male 18-29
    73 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 4:59 am
    Also she satisfied the requirements of the retreat doctrine. She was in a crawl space with her kids. What was he doing looking in there is all he wanted was stuff?

    Kinda makes you think. Doesn`t it?
  74. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14544 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 5:14 am
    Five shots to the head and he drives away? Sounds like she needs a heavier calibre (and that`s not even coming from a gun-nut).
  75. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14544 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 5:16 am
    PS/ How about a "Hand up" and a Pulp-Fiction monologue?
  76. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 5:26 am
    @abrxax

    I would say "OI!" and give the intruder the opportunity to run away (which I imagine most any burglar will take; they want my stuff, not a fight), leaving us both unharmed, and leaving me the leisure of calling the police and making it their problem.

    If he kept coming at me, well, then I`d probably be screwed.

    But I`d also be screwed if I woke up to a hungry tiger sharing my bedroom.

    The reason I`m not arming myself up is the same for both scenarios: I consider the likelihood of finding myself in that situation is too slim for me to realistically worry about, and I can`t live my life preparing for every possible bad thing. I have to play the odds.

    So I don`t have a weapon to defend against violent intruders, and I don`t have whatever it is I`d need to fight off a hungry tiger. In my circumstances, I don`t feel any need to fear either of these.
  77. Profile photo of abrxax
    abrxax Male 18-29
    73 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 5:43 am
    You know. England (excluding Ireland and Scotland) has a much higher violent crime rate the the U.S.
    http://youtu.be/Ooa98FHuaU0
    No guns in England..Your gonna get stabbed...over and over..getting stabbed sucks...really sucks..
  78. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 6:00 am
    @abrxax

    But a much lower murder rate.

    So if we have more violence, but less murder, that means I`m more likely to get hurt, but less likely to get killed?

    I am happy with that trade-off.
  79. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 6:02 am
    You know. England (excluding Ireland and Scotland) has a much higher violent crime rate the the U.S.
    FFS read about what laws are considered "violent crime" in each country then go sit in the corner.
  80. Profile photo of DromEd
    DromEd Male 40-49
    1836 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 6:37 am
    After all this I`m left to wonder how stupid the other 41 Musuko`s are.

  81. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5874 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 6:40 am
    chalket-_"grasp at any tragedy or horrific news story trying to promote his particular vision of how America should be"_

    Congratulations, you just described the liberial methodology.

    MrOrange-"my brain would function at a level that yours will never reach."

    And that level would be `stoned`.

    CreamK-"There is no way of knowing what were his intentions"

    Yes it is. His intentions were illegal and to violate the sanctity of someone else`s home.

    CreamK-"he mother had no right to shoot"

    And there you demonstrate you`re a total moron. She had every right to protect her kids and her home.

    CreamK-"What i can read from pro-gunners is the possibility of killing someone legally that attracts them."

    Obviously rational thinking is not your strong point. Neither is reading comprehension.
  82. Profile photo of mcmals
    mcmals Female 18-29
    146 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 6:53 am
    People get so upset over this whole gun thing. Those of us who are "against guns" in the US aren`t against all guns, just against assault weapons. NO CIVILIAN in the US needs a gun that can fire off 20 rounds in 2 seconds. I completely understand wanting a hand gun or something similar for self defense, I even understand wanting a rifle to hunt with, but you don`t need a weapon used for modern warfare lying around the house…..that`s just ridiculous
  83. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 6:56 am
    MrOrange: A person with a handgun feels much more secure and therefore has an easier time controlling their base instincts. Proper training lends even more confidence and control.

    Either way, situational awareness is critical, because a surprise ambush can defeat anyone`s training.
  84. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5874 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 7:19 am
    mcmals-"Those of us who are "against guns" in the US aren`t against all guns"

    You can only speak for yourself, as there is a significant portion of you who are `against guns` because they have an irrational fear of anything gun related.

    I know one person who is under the delusion that guns are mystical, that only the government can make them and if the government would just STOP making them they would magically dissappear (after all, they are much too complicated to be manufactured in anyone`s backyard shop). They are evil in themselves and this person avoids the sporting-goods section of any store she is in because she believes the guns are going to jump out of the display, load themselves, jump in someones hand and start shooting customers.

    She is, of course, delusional and completely ignorant on the issue of guns. Any attempt to educate her are all `lies`.

    You can`t educate someone who already knows all they think they need
  85. Profile photo of randomxnp
    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 7:26 am
    It`s funny how socialists (no, I will not call you liberals: that is a dishonest euphemism, as your philosophy is fundamentally illiberal) are wiling to announce themselves as idiotic to defend their ideology.

    How can anyone suggest that an intruder who went to the attic to which a mother and her children had fled suggest that the intruder was just involved in burglary? No, I don`t think you people are thick: I just think that you are so politically blinkered you are willing to say really stupid things to avoid having to amend your political ideas.
  86. Profile photo of randomxnp
    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 7:30 am
    McMals

    "People get so upset over this whole gun thing. Those of us who are "against guns" in the US aren`t against all guns, just against assault weapons."

    So you are against a left-wing fantasy, then?

    There is no such thing. Assault rifles are military weapons and are already banned in the USA; the term "assault weapon" is meaningless, although it is used to represent a set of features that are almost entirely cosmetic - the one exception being magazine capacity which is itself irrelevant in the context.

    Do you really not know that the news media are pounding you with propaganda? Do you really just parrot what you have been told by CNN?
  87. Profile photo of randomxnp
    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 7:33 am
    CreamK

    Unless you read the story, don`t comment. I assume you are probably British, and you are embarrassing us here being one of the aforementioned people posting idiotic opinions that do not account for the known facts.
  88. Profile photo of randomxnp
    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 7:35 am
    patchgrabber

    Are you suggesting that rape is not a violent crime in the USA? Rape is higher in the UK. What about assault occasioning actual bodily harm ? Assault occasioning grievous bodily harm? You might not call them the same thing, but violence is violence.
  89. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 7:36 am
    Proper training lends even more confidence and control.

    That arguments suports mine as well, so i`d say were in agreement on that? i`d add as a thought that, since i don`t have to worry where my weapon is, if it`s loaden/safety off etc, have to grab it and aim when that situation we never hope to encounter does arise i tend to feel pretty safe and confident most of the time.

    as for situational awareness i agree 100% and i might suggest certian precautions around the house which hinder an intruders progress.

  90. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 7:37 am
    I feel my liberal side being so nauseated by the liberals in this thread. Seriously fellas? I should just be able to waltz onto someone else`s without risking my own well being? Anyone who does, even if it`s the property owner or legal resident, should face sanction by the state? Really? Strange though it`s not the reason why don`t call myself a liberal anymore.
  91. Profile photo of dm2754
    dm2754 Male 40-49
    3283 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 7:47 am
    white woman shoots a black man
    sounds like a hate crime to me.
    :-P
  92. Profile photo of randomxnp
    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 7:52 am
    MacGuffin

    OK, so you are supposed to wait to see if someone rapes you? Wow. I did not know they made people so stupid. Except Catunze of course.
  93. Profile photo of randomxnp
    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 8:00 am
    patchgrabber

    You should follow the news in your own country. A man has just been found not guilty. He shot at an intruder with a legally-owned firearm. He was arrested and charged for the shooting. When prosecutors were forced to drop that charge, they were vindictive enough to charge him (with no evidence whatever) with violations against weapon storage laws.
  94. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 8:02 am
    @randomxnp: He didn`t mention specific crimes, he only said "violent crime." Completely different things. Britain counts affrays as violent crime. Even for assault, the US only considers it if it causes bodily harm. My point is that to make the assertion that a country has more violent crime is disingenuous, because all countries have different definitions of "violent crime." It is possible there is more rape in the UK, and that could be a more meaningful comparison, but then you`re into definitions of "forcible rape" and sexual assault, because again, even these crimes aren`t necessarily categorized in the same way between countries. However, this is not what he said. He then proceeded to link to a youtube video that displays this same ignorance. If he had mentioned specific crimes that would be one thing, but he did not, so I criticize, and aptly so I might say.
  95. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 8:43 am
    DAWWWW!! That poor home invader! Should`ve asked "Excuse me Mr. Home invader are you going to rape me and kill me and my family? I need to know before I shoot you ok??"
  96. Profile photo of TuckFarted
    TuckFarted Female 18-29
    87 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 8:53 am
    You`re allowed to defend yourself from harm in almost every damn country in the world, so no in Canada you will not be arrested if you were in danger in your own home.

    Also, gun control doesn`t mean a ban on guns, it means you need to be a sane individual that can get a licence..and a handgun is all you need for situations like this, a gun doesn`t need to be an extension to your small penis, get a hummer like the rest of the fools.
  97. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 8:54 am
    NO CIVILIAN in the US needs a gun that can fire off 20 rounds in 2 seconds

    If this lady had that she`d have made the world a beter place. "assualt weapons" are full auto that`s what the anti gun crowd calls whatever they want to ban.
  98. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 8:59 am
    and a handgun is all you need for situations like this, a gun doesn`t need to be an extension to your small penis, get a hummer like the rest of the fools.

    Well, I must say that my penis is certainly not large enough to defend myself with in a life threatening situation. And my GF is totally defenseless! What would that be an extension of for a woman now?
  99. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 9:00 am
  100. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31766 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 9:42 am
    The mother had no right to shoot...
    Ah Europe! Where everyhing is perfect and crime does not exist~!
    This once funny site is becoming another mudslinging fest.
    Says @CramK as he flings some mug around... oh teh irony!

    Why do you think you`re qualified to say what a mother`s instincts are?
    @Musuko42:
    #1 how are YOU qualified to comment on someone ELSES knowledge? Are you that peson? Do you know ANYTHING about him/her? @CrakrJak could have a PHD in "Feminist Studies" for all YOU know!
    #2 Oh, teh irony! Europe seems to be dripping with it lately...
  101. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31766 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 9:54 am
    @MacGovern: the David Gregory case is laugh-out-loud stupid. How the liberal media swarms to his defence! I guess they protect their own, eh?

    Like those "journalists" caught with mountains of child porn: It was for "article research"! Yeah, right...
  102. Profile photo of UDUMASS
    UDUMASS Male 30-39
    60 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 10:07 am
    Reporter: "Perhaps he was trying to break into a home where he thought no one was home"
    -- No poo Sherlock!
  103. Profile photo of UDUMASS
    UDUMASS Male 30-39
    60 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 10:09 am
    @TuckFarted:
    Yes, you would be arrested in Canada. It has happened quite a few times before.
  104. Profile photo of Magentab0b
    Magentab0b Female 30-39
    1467 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    What kind of burglar only rings the bell once. Fail dude, fail.
  105. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 3:01 pm
    What kind of burglar only rings the bell once. Fail dude, fail.

    To see if anyones home probably should`ve checked a bit more.
  106. Profile photo of r66tramp
    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    When I read s.hit like this, it makes me want to buy a gun. I don`t even have children or pets! I want to protect my two dollar bottles of wine!
  107. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    I bet this gets half you lead heads sitting in the dark with your gun on the table and the front door ajar.

    Alternatives to her .38

    Tazer.. backed up with a knife.
    Wine bottle over the head and then jagged edges into throat, bowel or groin.
    Open hand strike to the larynx. (not allowed in mma Old Ollie.. wonder why)

    However as she was in Americuh why didnt she just buy a sawn off shotgun.

    We all have an illegal one of thise over here for just that purpose. Shoot crim, claim it was his gun. job done.
  108. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 4:34 pm
    and does head and neck include hair? Thats the only way the burglar leaving under his own steam makes any sense.
  109. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm
    Use non-lethal means. Like a taser, a bottle of wine over the head, or some super beast woman capable of incapacitating a majority of men. Ok, cool. One question, what if the intruder has a gun?
  110. Profile photo of DromEd
    DromEd Male 40-49
    1836 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 5:45 pm
    I think next year I will conquer Europe. Should be a snap with all you pacifist ninnies waving tazers and shouting "go away bad person."
  111. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31766 posts
    January 7, 2013 at 8:14 pm
    @MattPrince: You`ve (conveniently) forgotten that he has a crowbar.
    Crowbar > wine bottle
    Plus you are an idiot.
    She does NOT have a taser... she does NOT have a knife.
    What imaginary world do "europeans" live in that a man with a crowbar, breaking into a mother of 2`s house is THE VICTEM?
    Oh yeah, she LURED him in there with her helplessness! Teh hussy! Poor man, just released from jail too...

    @r66tramp: TWO DOLLAR bottles of wine? Either you`re home-brewing (even mine cost nearly $4 a bottle) or you have wine from 1977... lolz! You so funny!
  112. Profile photo of abrxax
    abrxax Male 18-29
    73 posts
    January 8, 2013 at 5:12 am
    @ Europeans

    That attitude is why it took American men, with American guns to take care of hitler.

    pussies.....
  113. Profile photo of Finker
    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    January 8, 2013 at 9:30 am
    Is the difference between home defence and a national military confusing some people?
  114. Profile photo of Palfas
    Palfas Male 30-39
    411 posts
    January 8, 2013 at 11:18 am
    @Finker, they`re not confused, they honestly believe what they`re spouting, and that`s the real scary part.
  115. Profile photo of Palfas
    Palfas Male 30-39
    411 posts
    January 8, 2013 at 11:18 am
    shotgun > 38 revolver for home defense
  116. Profile photo of mikelae18
    mikelae18 Male 18-29
    79 posts
    January 8, 2013 at 5:38 pm
    5 Times in the face and neck. Out of 6 bullets that`s a damn good shot.
  117. Profile photo of Zymotical
    Zymotical Male 18-29
    198 posts
    January 8, 2013 at 7:31 pm
    You typically dont keep 6 rounds in a revolver, good safety you leave the next chamber to fire empty to avoid accidental discarges.

    So she hit every shot, well done.
  118. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31766 posts
    January 8, 2013 at 8:09 pm
    @Zymotical: She did fire 6 times, says the article. She was out of ammo, but ordered him to lay on the floor while she ran away with her kids. (He didn`t know it was empty, obviously)

    Perhaps she loaded it while hiding? Putting all 6 bullets in? OR it might be a revolver that takes more than 6? idk...

    The point is: She`s safe, her kids are safe, becuase she DID have a gun.

    ALSO: Some folks are confused as to where she was: It was a "crawlspace" accessed off her in-home office, not up in the "attic" above the house. iirc the newscast is confusing, but the article is clearer about it.

    He may have been opening doors randomly, or heard them in there & was coming after them, it doesn`t say.
  119. Profile photo of chalket
    chalket Male 50-59
    2712 posts
    January 10, 2013 at 10:32 am
    @MeGrendel:
    "Congratulations, you just described the liberial methodology. "
    I`ve never been to Liberia and have no idea about any "liberial methodology." Maybe if you could spell and type slightly above "Moron Level" your jokes might come across a bit better? Nah, probably not.

    @MeGrendel:
    "Obviously rational thinking is not your strong point. Neither is reading comprehension."
    "You can`t educate someone who already knows all they think they need "
    I wish I had a dollar for every time those statements apply perfectly to YOU.

Leave a Reply