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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 1:18 pm
    Link: High School Student Comes Out Publicly To School - As he accepts a school award during a school assembly, Jacob Rudolph bravely admits to everyone he`s LGBT.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    Lesbain Gay Black Teen??? I didn`t know he could be all those things!?!?!?!?! :-p
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    animalss Female 18-29
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    January 23, 2013 at 1:41 pm
    I remember that time when I came out as a gay lesbian bisexual transgendered person.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    he`s a gay lesbian whos bisexual and transgender? wonder what he looks like naked lol

    good for him tho
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 1:49 pm
    Another Facebook junkie who thinks his personal business needs to be made public and justified by his peers.

    Go back to the closet a-hole. no-one does a coming out event for being straight.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    He`s Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transvestite?!

    Ain`t nobody got time for that!
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 1:54 pm
    1. You are what you are. Why make a giant announcement about it?

    2. Why give a standing ovation for saying he likes dudes? Just be like, "Okay...cool..."
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    Nova666 Female 18-29
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    January 23, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    wow that school is rude, they keep talking when hes trying to talk >_< I keep hearing a bunch of `shhh" shh! SHHH! lol
    but good for him to come out the way he did, indeed hes brave. All the best to him.
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    drips Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 2:17 pm
    For the people saying `who cares` it`s good that you`re accepting but keep in mind that a lot of people worldwide have beef with anything other than heterosexuality. I think the more people come out, loud and proud, the closer we get to most people saying `who cares`. Being closeted about something as important as sexual orientation (or gender identity) cannot be good for your emotional well being. Being able to be who and what you are freely sounds like a basic human right.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 2:25 pm
    He`s all four? Is that when you`re born male, become female, and shag / get shagged by anything with any number of X and Y chromosomes at all points on your journey?

    Seriously, though, if there`s one piece of advice I`d give to any young adult it`s never to get engaged or reveal you gender/sexual orientation peculiarities in public like this. It may feel cathartic at the time, but honestly, people don`t give nearly as much of a damn about your personal shyt as you might think. No long-term good comes of making a big deal of something like this.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    Makes me wonder if I would`ve gotten a standing ovation if I had taken to time to announce that I did, in fact, find myself attracted to vaginas and breasts.
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    UDUMASS Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    "Makes me wonder if I would`ve gotten a standing ovation if I had taken to time to announce that I did, in fact, find myself attracted to vaginas and breasts."

    Where`s the damn LIKE button IAB?
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    UDUMASS Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 2:55 pm
    More IAB gayness. Starting to think there`s a theme going on here...
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    January 23, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    "No long-term good comes of making a big deal of something like this."

    I know. How dare this talented actor make a positive role model out of himself for other LGBT teens. I for one am so damn proud of kids like this that have the courage to stand up for themselves. I only recommend it though if you know your school is safe.
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    jdee89 Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    Good for this guy - amazingly brave. Don`t like the word "admit" in the caption though - it`s too weighted with the idea that anything outside the heternormative is something to be guilty of.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    January 23, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    It must be pretty exhausting to be a gay lesbian transgendered bisexual...
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    Phosphoreign Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 3:08 pm
    I know I`ll probably catch a lot of crap for this, but when I was in high school, I never really had the strong urge to get up in front of everyone, and confess... "Friends... I`m attracted to persian women with big boobs"... I`m just not sure this is the appropriate venue, or the right audience... why do people feel its so important to "declare to the world" their sexuality and lifestyle choices... they are YOURS. I COULD CARE LESS... I`M TOO BUSY DEALING WITH MINE.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    January 23, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    Why is he brave? If they`re equal now and I stand up and announce I am straight, will that make me a hero?
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    January 23, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    This is why people like him are brave. From Richard Blanco, the gay poet at Obama`s inauguration. That is what they deal with every day, and why he should be lauded for stepping out of the closet.

    I too wish him all the best, and a wonderful husband someday to boot.
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    Jowsh Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2013 at 3:16 pm
    He came out as lesbian gay bisexual transexual? Jesus
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 23, 2013 at 3:20 pm
    Nova666-" indeed hes brave"
    jdee89-"amazingly brave"

    He`s not `brave`. He`s an attention seaking whore.

    NO ONE CARES!!! It`s his business. He probably posts what he had for breakfast on facebook everyone morning too.

    People don`t care who YOU are attracted to, who `I` am attracted to and who HE is attracted to.

    He just wants everyone to know he`s `special`, because he want`s to FEEL `special`.

    Sorry, he`s not special. The fact that he likes balls in the face does not make him special.
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    Toider Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2013 at 3:33 pm
    I personally can`t wait for the day that this is no longer considered interesting or post-worthy so that I don`t have to be exposed to these pointless non-events.

    I want equality for all the wrong reasons I guess.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 23, 2013 at 3:52 pm
    I want equality for all the wrong reasons I guess.
    @Toider: lolz! I`m in the same boat!

    I bravely admit: Japanese Girls Make Me So Horney!

    It`s in my DNA!
    I was born this way!
    It`s perfectly natural!
    Evolutionarily valid sexual orientation: JGMMSH
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    cyborg Male 13-17
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    January 23, 2013 at 4:53 pm
    i bet he got all the ladies after that speech
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    No one cares, douche.
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    Fml Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 6:19 pm
    That was gay ...
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    Bremir Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2013 at 6:27 pm
    markust123 - And how do you know he`s "talented", though? Based on what? The award? Terrible actors have won awards. Because of his speech? To which I`d have to say bull ****. That doesn`t make someone a talented actor.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2013 at 6:27 pm
    You know this used to brave 5 years ago but now it`s just tacky and obtuse. High school sucks for everyone and we need to stop telling teens these are the best years of their life.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    January 23, 2013 at 7:53 pm
    He`s lesbian, gay, bisexual, AND transgendered? Wow!
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    thelonious Male 40-49
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    January 23, 2013 at 8:02 pm
    Glad he feels better. That speech probably shocked 1% of the listeners.
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    blargendarg Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2013 at 9:32 pm
    So is it a problem if I say this is retarded?

    I know there are people out there who still need to get over this - the numbers say so. I just don`t know any of them.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 23, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Good for him.
    And good that he lives in a time when he can, if he chooses, do that.
    If I`d done that in high school 3 things would have happened;
    A: School would have kicked me out immediately.
    B: Kids would have kicked my ass as soon as I got outside.
    C: My dad would have thrown me out of the house to live on the streets.

    Good for him.
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    Neoptolemos Male 30-39
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    January 24, 2013 at 2:39 am
    He`s lesbian, gay, bisexual, AND transgendered? Wow!
    Came here to say that as well
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    baradhili Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 4:19 am
    he isn`t that - he is a AW - attention whore
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 5:46 am
    @insane_ai

    "Go back to the closet a-hole. no-one does a coming out event for being straight."

    Yes they do. It`s called a wedding. It happens all the time. It`s as public as public gets.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 5:50 am
    @TruTenrMan

    "Makes me wonder if I would`ve gotten a standing ovation if I had taken to time to announce that I did, in fact, find myself attracted to vaginas and breasts."

    If you lived in an environment where that made you a minority, and a hounded, belittled and abused minority no less, then yes you would get a standing ovation by being brave enough to openly reveal what you are.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 5:52 am
    @drawman61

    "If they`re equal now and I stand up and announce I am straight, will that make me a hero?"

    They`re not equal. Not yet. And that`s the point. That`s why people still need to stand up and speak.

    Imagine yourself being a white person saying this against Rosa Parks; "would I get labelled a hero if I sat at the front of a bus and refused to move?"

    THAT is how you sound to us now.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 5:55 am
    @MeGrendel

    "People don`t care who YOU are attracted to, who `I` am attracted to and who HE is attracted to."

    What world have you been living in?! People DO care. Have you not paid any attention to politics or what is said in churches across the world?

    FFS, have you not even noticed the Westboro Baptists? THEY care who other people are attracted to. And they`re people. Barely.

    People DO care, and they care enough to treat other people like crap because of it.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 5:57 am
    @blargendarg

    "So is it a problem if I say this is retarded?"

    Yes, because "retarded" is an offensive term that makes you sound like an ignorant child.

    And by problem, I`ll clarify; it`s a problem for YOU, because sounding like an ignorant child isn`t going to do you many favours in life.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 6:02 am
    Musuko42-"What world have you been living in?!"

    The real world, where 99% of the people don`t give a s&[t.

    Musuko42-"what is said in churches across the world"

    So churches are against it? It`s a free country, they have a right to be against it, don`t go to those churches. Do YOU go to a church that has different beliefs than you?

    99% of the beople don`t give a f*ck.

    Musuko42-" they care enough to treat other people like crap"

    EVERYbody gets treated like crap by someone. Deal with it. Just because you catch crap because you`re gay does not make you any more special than someone who catches crap because they talk funny, look funny or can`t quote stats on every NBA player.

    Deal with it.

    PEOPLE. DON`T. CARE.

    He`s not `brave`, he`s an `attention whore`.

    If everyone would keep their sex lives to themselves, no one would notice
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 6:18 am
    MeGrendel: One would thing that a homosexual like yourself would be more sympathetic.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 24, 2013 at 6:41 am

    "If everyone would keep their sex lives to themselves, no one would notice"
    Being gay isn`t about having sex. Neither is being straight.

    Take straight guy who`s celebate. He hasn`t had sex, but he`s still heterosexual. Orientation is about who you love, not who you f*ck.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 6:46 am
    your gay? well, we don`t care. STFU
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 6:53 am
    jtrebowski-"One would thing that a homosexual like yourself would be more sympathetic."

    That may come as a schock to my wife. (and no one has to be sympathetic to an attention whore, no matter what their sexual orientation).

    Gerry1of1-"Orientation is about who you love, not who you f*ck."

    And neither have a place at a high-school awards ceremony.

    I`d have still called him an attention whore if he got up there and stated `I just banged the homecoming queen last night.`

    He just want`s to feel `special`.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 24, 2013 at 7:20 am

    MecGrendal "And neither have a place at a high-school awards ceremony"
    It was an "acting" award so he spoke of how he had to "act" differant to his nature every day. So yeah, there is a segue there.

    A boy dates a girl automatically accepted.
    A boy wants to take a boy to prom and SCANDAL!
    So yes, "who you love" does have a place in the social order of high school.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 8:04 am
    Gerry1of1-"So yeah, there is a segue there.`

    A force seque of a guy who want more attention. He was EVEN MORE `special` because he is gay.

    Gerry1of1-"So yes, "who you love" does have a place in the social order of high school."

    As does `Football Jock vs. Band Geek`.
    As does `Cheerleader vs. Emo chick.`
    As does `Honor Roll vs. Remedial`.
    As does `Cool Kid with Coold Car vs. Kid on Bus.`

    Deal with it. His gayness does not make him special, does not mean he`s suffered more than everyone else and should not receive a standing ovation.

    In fact, has no place at the award ceremony.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 8:54 am
    @MeGrendel

    "So churches are against it? It`s a free country, they have a right to be against it"

    And we have a right to be for it, and to do things like openly come out and talk about it.

    Check and effing mate. Your complaint is invalid.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 8:56 am
    @MeGrendel

    "EVERYbody gets treated like crap by someone. Deal with it."

    We ARE dealing it, like anyone should when someone gives them crap: by fighting back.

    I`m soooo sorry that you have to witness the fight. It must be such a strain on your delicate soul to have to watch a bunch of gay people fight off the attacks of bigots. I`ll start a donation drive to help you out in your distress.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:00 am
    @MeGrendel

    "Deal with it."

    Again, we are...by changing things. Or at least attempting to. Perhaps not always in the best ways, but none of us are perfect.

    Would you have told Rosa Parks to go sit in the back, shut up, and "deal with it"?

    God, you sound like such a wimp, willing to just let yourself sit in silent misery and not speak out about anything that`s doing you wrong.

    Oh, you`re not like that? You DO speak out and fight back? So why complain so bitterly about other people doing it?

    What exactly is your beef?

    You know...other than "I think gays are icky", which we all know is the REAL reason you`re complaining.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:04 am
    Musuko42-"And we have a right to be for it, and to do things like openly come out and talk about it."

    Yes, you have that right. No one said you didn`t.

    You also have the right stand in the middle of any park you want and continually sing "I`m a little tea pot". People would find that as annoying as someone announcing `And by the way, and even though you don`t care and it has nothing to do with the conversation...I`M GAY`.

    We will respond that NO BODY CARES and point out that:
    1) it has nothing to do with the conversation other than to make you the centerpoint in your own little mind
    2)you are not special &
    3) you ARE annoying.

    Musuko42-"Check and effing mate."

    It`s sad that you actually think that.
  51. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:07 am
    @MeGrendel

    "Just because you catch crap because you`re gay does not make you any more special than someone who catches crap because they talk funny, look funny or can`t quote stats on every NBA player."

    My god, you really are a failure aren`t you?

    How are you not able to see that ALL of those things shouldn`t happen, and should most definitely be spoken against and fought against?

    Someone fighting his own personal battle isn`t claiming that their fight is more worthy than anyone else`s.

    If you want to be a cynical little defeatest and throw your hands up at all the bad things in the world and decry anyone who tries to do something about making the bad things...you know...simply not happen any more, feel free.

    But don`t sling mud at those who are actually trying to change things for the better.

    And note, he got a standing ovation...do you think, perhaps then, that his speech WAS appropriate for that place, if his
  52. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:08 am
    @MeGrendel

    "People would find that as annoying as someone announcing `And by the way, and even though you don`t care and it has nothing to do with the conversation...I`M GAY`."

    That isn`t what happened. He made his speech, and his audience gave him a standing ovation.

    So...why don`t you identify exactly who found it annoying? Except for you...and you weren`t even there, and nobody made you watch this video.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:09 am
    @MeGrendel

    "We will respond that NO BODY CARES"

    You seem to care enough to be having this conversation.

    Don`t you have anything better to do than argue with a stranger about something you don`t care about?

    Hmm?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:11 am
    @MeGrendel

    "3) you ARE annoying."

    Funnily enough, not many people care whether you are annoyed by it. Nobody is making you watch, nobody is making you listen, nobody is making you participate.

    This isn`t about you.

    Because, you know, you`re really not that special either.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:14 am
    Musuko42-"You seem to care enough to be having this conversation."

    Seem to have a reading comprehension problem, do you? (obviously).

    I don`t care if bangs chicks, guys, blow-up dolls or goats.

    On the other hand, I find anyone who wants to BRAG about themselve in an attempt to make themselves seem `special` extremely annoying.

    You may note that we are not discussing his sexual orientation, but the fact that he announces to the world that he thinks he`s special because of it.

    His video was not posted because he IS gay. MANY people are. His video was posted because he decided to announce it at an inappropriate time as if it makes a difference.
  56. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:16 am
    @MeGrendel

    "On the other hand, I find anyone who wants to BRAG about themselve in an attempt to make themselves seem `special` extremely annoying."

    He`s an ACTOR.

    What on earth were you expecting?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:17 am
    @MeGrendel

    "His video was posted because he decided to announce it at an inappropriate time as if it makes a difference."

    His audience gave him a STANDING OVATION.

    By exactly what logic do you consider something innappropriate if the entire audience of what you are doing STANDS UP AND APPLAUDS YOU?!
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:18 am
    Musuko42-"We ARE dealing it, like anyone should when someone gives them crap: by fighting back."

    He wasn`t fighting back. He was attempting to make himself feel special.

    You want to fight back? Try to legalize gay marriage. THAT will have an effect, not this attention whore stating `I won this and I`m gay, so I`m doubly special`.

    Musuko42-"Would you have told Rosa Parks to go sit in the back, shut up, and "deal with it"?"

    Actually, what Rosa Parks did WAS DEAL WITH IT. She didn`t stand up, accept an award and say `btw..I`m black`.

    Musuko42-"sit in silent misery and not speak out about anything that`s doing you wrong."

    Nope, I deal with it. I see no need to announce that fact in attempt to feel special.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:20 am
    @MeGrendel

    "He wasn`t fighting back. He was attempting to make himself feel special."

    How can you tell? You`re inside his head, are you? That`s...a bit kinky.

    "Try to legalize gay marriage"

    ...we are. You HAVE noticed that going on, haven`t you?

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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:23 am
    @MeGrendel

    What exactly is your complaint here? That he did this out of personal aggrandisement rather than to further the cause of gay rights?

    Rosa Parks got pretty damn famous after her stunt. Are you going to accuse her of the same thing? Because for all you know, that is why she did it, and it worked.

    Martin Luther King Jr, him too?

    How about Gandhi? He got pretty famous out of his salt protest. Going to accuse him of being a self-promoter too?

    This kid is now more famous than you are, because he is being viewed by hundreds/thousands/who knows people...and you, as far as I am aware (and I am ready to stand corrected), are not.

    Bit jealous then?
  61. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:26 am
    Musuko42-"How are you not able to see that ALL of those things shouldn`t happen, and should most definitely be spoken against and fought against?"

    Damn, you`re an idiot.

    Yes, they shouldn`t happen. But guess what, humans being what they are you are not going to change it in some people. Small minded people will always seek to be-little anyone different.

    My POINT, which you seem unable to grasp, is that standing up and saying `I`m a geek` in an attempt to get people to faun over you is not `doing something`.
  62. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:26 am
    Musuko42-"don`t sling mud at those who are actually trying to change things for the better."

    This guy WAS NOT trying to change things. He was an attention whore.

    Show me a person who is gay, who fights back and/or outs a homophobe bigot, and I`ll show you a person who`s DOING SOMETHING.

    Rosa Parks DID SOMETHING.

    Musuko42-"What on earth were you expecting?"

    "Thank you for the award. I appreciate the teachers and students who supported me and voted for me, because it was with their help and support that I became the actor I am today." (not "I`m a good actor becasue I`m gay")
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:31 am
    @MeGrendel

    "Yes, they shouldn`t happen. But guess what, humans being what they are you are not going to change it in some people."

    That doesn`t mean you give up and stop trying.

    "My POINT, which you seem unable to grasp, is that standing up and saying `I`m a geek` in an attempt to get people to faun over you is not `doing something`."

    And my point is that you don`t know that is the reason he made this speech. You`re just projecting.

    Perhaps because you feel a need for attention, and aren`t getting it, and assume that everyone else has that same need.

    Who are you to say that his reason wasn`t just to make the world a little better for himself and people who are in a similar situation to him?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:31 am
    Musuko42-"Rosa Parks...", "Martin Luther King Jr...", "How about Gandhi?"

    Rosa Parks risked assault and death to make a stand.
    Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated for his stance and his speeches. Had he know he would be killed, I`m sure he would have done it anyway.
    Gandhi sacrificed alot and faced violence and death to stand for what he believed in.

    They DID something.

    Comparing this attention whore to them is an insult.

    Musuko42-"This kid is now more famous than you are."

    So is Snooki & Honey Boo Boo. Fame doesn`t mean a damn thing anymore. You used to be famous for what you accomplished. Now you`re more likely to be famous for being a drug adict.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:32 am
    @MeGrendel

    "This guy WAS NOT trying to change things. He was an attention whore."

    What are you basing that on? That`s just, like, your opinion maaaaan.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:32 am
    Musuko42-"That doesn`t mean you give up and stop trying."

    Of course not. But this guy was not trying to do anything but feel `special`.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 9:34 am
    @MeGrendel

    "Rosa Parks risked assault and death to make a stand."

    So do far too many gay people in your country and, to a lesser extent, mine.

    "They DID something."

    And how do you know this kid hasn`t?

    How do you know there isn`t some other kid in that crowd who felt so miserable and close to suicide because he or she felt alone with their secret...but then this day happened and they felt their peers around them stand up and applaud and cheer, and they realise that they needn`t be alone, and they could be who they are without fear of those around them?

    And it just took one other person to speak out to get them to realise it.

    How the F*CK do you know that wasn`t the case?

    It happened to me, once upon a time.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:44 am
    Musuko42-"How the F*CK do you know that wasn`t the case?"

    In exactly the same way you `think` it IS the case.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 24, 2013 at 9:46 am
    @MeGrendel

    "In exactly the same way you `think` it IS the case."

    I didn`t say I think it is the case. Read what I said again. I asked you why you think it ISN`T the case.

    Because I don`t think it is the case (all I think is that it *might* happen, or something similar, based on my personal experience that it HAS happened before in a very similar way), you haven`t answered my question. Please answer it.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    January 24, 2013 at 10:22 am
    @insane_ai

    "Go back to the closet a-hole. no-one does a coming out event for being straight."

    Yes they do. It`s called a wedding. It happens all the time. It`s as public as public gets.

    Your argument would have been valid a few years ago but now that homosexuals can move to a state where gay marriage is legally recognized, your argument fails as both sides have the same opportunity available to them.

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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 10:24 am
    Musuko42-"Please answer it. "

    I did. In the exact same way you came to your conclusion. based on the only evidence available.

    Show me more evidence, and I may change my mind. I`m not dumb enough to think I`m absolutely right based on little evidence.

    I just give my opinion. I`m not presenting it as fact in any way. That IS what it was posted for, to foster a discussion.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    January 24, 2013 at 10:31 am
    So nice to see a lad putting himself out there, hope it helps others. It is a real shame that we live in a time when being gay, or transgender leaves people open to abuse. If people behave as this young man did then hopefully the bigotry will die quickly.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 24, 2013 at 10:43 am

    @ MeGrendel

    The phrase "I am gay" took all of 2 seconds to say. You say you don`t care, nobody gives a crap, but you have spent a great deal of time telling is why he should not do that. If you, or others like you, really don`t care why have you spent so much energy on the topic?

    If you didn`t care I should think your response would be saying "whatever" silently in your head and moving on to the next post.

    Seems like you do care a lot. Which is exactly why he had to do this publicly.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    January 24, 2013 at 10:49 am
    Just out of curiousity Gerry, I may be being intrusive, in which case please tell me to go and boil my head, and I can`t be arsed to wade through half of this ghastly bigoted crap- but did you have a tough time as a teen? Do you feel this lads actions are helping?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 24, 2013 at 11:46 am

    You`re not being intrusive, ask me anything.
    Tough time? Yes and no. I didn`t have it too bad because I was not stupid enough to tell anyone. But here`s what I saw happen to the "sissies" in high school.

    The other boys would gang up on them in the showers and beat the crap out of them. The coach would see it and just walk away. The attitude was those kids needed to "man up" and a good beating would presumably encourage that. Anti-gay stuff was institutional. Gay kids had no where to turn. You couldn`t "come out" the school would expel you. Gay teens were thrown out of the house to live on the streets back then.

    But I had an okay time - I hid. As did my brother so growing up I didn`t know I had a gay brother. Didn`t find that out till I was 30. We both moved far, far away from home as soon as we legally could.

    Anyway, times are different, and the condoned violence doesn`t take place anymore. It`s not perfect for gay kids,
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    January 24, 2013 at 11:56 am
    Shame you had to move Gerry, but, times change. Too slowly I think though, and whilst not openly condoned I think the violence and bullying continues in too many places. Such a sensitive topic for some- and so bloody irrelevant- how much do gender and sexual orientation actually matter anyway. Sad..
  77. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    Gerry1of1-"you have spent a great deal of time telling is why he should not do that"

    I didn`t say he shouldn`t do it, I just said most people don`t give a crap.

    If it were `no big deal`, the video would never be seen. The deal is not his orientation, which very few care about. The deal is about the the deal that`s been made of it. `Aww, he so special....` Yes, he`s as as special as 12-20 million other Americans (numbers may vary).
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7421 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 1:23 pm
    MeGrendel... well people should care about others. Being nice, kind and polite actually matters. Being rude and unpleasant is what causes more than a little trouble. Being deliberately horrid is not clever- it is really rather sad...
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    January 24, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    I had an easy time in high school for the same reason Gerry did - I was in the closet. i didn`t come out until I was 21. I stopped really caring what people thought around 30. I think it took longer for our generations to come out because we were all taught to be straight. There really weren`t any gay role models. Gerry`s generation even more so. Even though I had feelings one way the way I was taught drowned those out for a while. It`s really weird to explain. Eventually your true person just overpowers what you have been taught that you are supposed to be. Being gay is definitely something you are born with. My brother and I were raised exactly the same in a very loving family. I would not have chosen this "lifestyle" at 21. I was roommates with a girl who was my soulmate in every way but attraction.
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    SavageChef Female 50-59
    2692 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 1:41 pm
    Who the hell cares? Hey, anyone want to hear about my sex preferences? >crickets chirping<
    Yeah, I didn`t think so.
  81. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    January 24, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    I know. How dare this talented actor make a positive role model out of himself for other LGBT teens. I for one am so damn proud of kids like this that have the courage to stand up for themselves. I only recommend it though if you know your school is safe.

    LOL, get over yourself markust. Nobody said "how dare he". I made a personal observation from personal experience about the wisdom of being too open to too wide a group of people. When I was younger and stupider, I made the mistake of being public about a personal issue I was going through myself. Fortunately, it didn`t affect me too much. What I learned from that experience was what I said earlier: nobody gives half as much of a damn about your shyt as you might think when you`re young and/or dumb.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Certainly, the vast majority of people don`t give a damn whether someone is gay or not in this day and age. They *do* care if you`re in their face about whatever your proclivities happen to be (we all hate straight couples that chew one another`s face off in public, amIright? - hence the phrase "get a room"). Well, for most people unexpected public pronouncements of love for fellow man or woman fall into that same discomfiting category. People who make such pronouncements make other people uncomfortable, not because they`re homophobic, but because they simply don`t care about other people`s shyt and wonder why you believed they might.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 2:02 pm
    People like MeGrendel are the people who really hate when other people distinguish themselves in any way because it makes them examine themselves. They are the ones who make fun of the smart kid in school because they themselves don`t get good grades. They hate people who do well in sports, any people who get special recognition of any kind because it shines a light on their own mediocrity. Instead of improving themselves, they denigrate the people who are achieving or simply expressing themselves, like the guy in the video, rather than keeping a low profile. His kind doesn`t want his thoughts provoked. He just wants to muddle through an average life and not be challenged to do more. Being unique is threatening to him.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    @lauriloo: Sounds like projection to me. How does watching a video like this make you feel about yourself? Is there something you always wished you could say or do, but were too afraid to? My advice is just to do whatever you want. Chances are you`ll find other people give less of a toss about what you do than you might think, whether or not you make a spectacle of yourself in the process.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    Wow, way to get upset at the part of your comment I wasn`t talking about and ignoring the part I was. I was commenting on, "No long-term good comes of making a big deal of something like this."

    The more adults and kids who come out the more gay people someone knows. This helps cut down bullying of gay kids immensely because it humanizes the situation, especially when the person is a positive roll model. I`m so damn proud of kids like this guy. You can tell he is extremely nervous to be doing this. Probably the hardest thing he has ever done.
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    furryblob Male 18-29
    574 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 2:39 pm
    I`m surprised he never got kicked off stage.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5864 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 3:52 pm
    madduck-"well people should care about others."

    I agree. If this guy was being bullied, I`d try and stand up for him. If he holds the microphone to his ass and farts, I`d give him a hard time for being inappropriate.

    Attention whoring is not pretty, it`s petty.

  88. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5864 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 3:52 pm
    lauriloo-"They are the ones who make fun of the smart kid in school because they themselves don`t get good grades."

    I was the smart one that got made fun of (band geek to boot, which added to the `making fun of`...I dealt with it). Honors roll, Dean`s list, President of the Science Club, Geometry Team Member, Scholar`s bowl team, multiple scholarships etc.

    lauriloo-"His kind doesn`t want his thoughts provoked."

    Total bullpoo. Because I believe a kid is an attention whore I `muddle through mediocrity`?

    Stating `I`m Gay` at an event not related to your orientation is nor distinguishing yourself in any way other than attention whoring. Nor is it `thought provoking`. He didn`t get the award for being gay.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36174 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    "Stating `I`m Gay` at an event not related to your orientation is nor distinguishing yourself in any way other than attention whoring"
    Okay, what even would you say is appropriate? What event is related to homosexuality in high school? {Don`t say the spring musical!} So, if there is no appropriate venue, you make one!

    The point is if it were no big deal, he`d have so "oh i`m gay" his freshman year, but it`s a big enough deal he had to hide for a few years before he could tell people.
  90. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5864 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 6:53 pm
    Gerry1of1-"So, if there is no appropriate venue, you make one!"

    WHY do you need ANY venue to announce publicly that you`re gay?

    WHY? Why is it necessary? (It`s not)

    We don`t expect every single person to get up in front of a microphone and state their sexual leanings.

    A much simpler way would be to his friends, "Hey, I`m gay. It`s not a secret so don`t worry about telling other people." It`d get around soon enough.

    Again, he just wanted everyone to know he is `special`, when in reality he`s not.

    His ACTING may make him special, which is why he got the award.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36174 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    "WHY do you need ANY venue to announce publicly that you`re gay?
    WHY? Why is it necessary? "
    You keep asking that question.
    It`s been answeres several times.
    Are you reading any of the posts besides your own?
  92. Profile photo of madduck
    madduck Female 50-59
    7421 posts
    January 24, 2013 at 11:26 pm
    In many cases public professions of any strong emotion etc are not nice- but there are exceptions. publicly acknowledging you belong to a marginalised group is one. It is called standing up to be counted.. just what Anderson Cooper did, and he explained very clearly why he did it. It is ( I hope) much better now for gay people- trans kids are having it hard though- so with luck and a prevailing wind they will all because accepted. I agree that we should not care- but as a society we do- and the only way forward is for cisgendered straights to realise they are not now, and never have been the only type of people.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
    1677 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 4:12 am
    whats brave about admitting your gay? Very few people give a drat and the ones who will be upset at it are generally seen as mean persons, in fact, these days it would be much braver to get up on stage and admit to being homophobic. This guy just seems like a self centred drama queen begging for attention.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5864 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 5:34 am
    Gerry1of1-"You keep asking that question."

    Because no one has provided any sensable reason why a person should announce their sexual preference at an acting award ceremony.

    The `standing ovation` was because that`s the politically correct thing to do.

    I can tell you what the response of 95% of the students were:

    Guy: "BTW guys, I`m gay."
    95%: "No duh. What are you going to `reveal` next? That the president`s black?"
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
    646 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 5:39 am
    Good for him.
  96. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 6:19 am
    @MeGrendel

    Why have you got such a bee in your bonnet about this?

    Do you scream and rant at people who wear an AC/DC t-shirt about how nobody cares what music they like and why do they flaunt their music taste in public like an attention-seeking whore?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 6:23 am
    @MeGrendel

    Or, when the person getting up on stage for the award ceremony talks about poverty in Africa for a few minutes, do you wail about how inappropriate and off-topic it is?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 6:25 am
    @paddy215

    "Very few people give a drat and the ones who will be upset at it are generally seen as mean persons"

    That`s not true everywhere. In vast swathes of America it`s not true, and there are areas in the UK still where you`re going to get grief.

    "This guy just seems like a self centred drama queen begging for attention."

    Did you miss the part about him being an ACTOR?!

    I`ll ask again...what on earth did you expect? Shyness?
  99. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 25, 2013 at 7:48 am
    Musuko42-"Do you scream and rant at people who wear an AC/DC t-shirt"

    Why would I rant about a t-shirt in public? I`m an avid t-shirt reader.

    But, there are places were an AC/DC t-shirt is not appropriate, and places where it will not be allowed.

    Musuko42-"Or, when the person getting up on stage for the award ceremony talks about poverty in Africa"

    1) I don`t watch award shows, but if I did it wouldn`t be to hear about Africa. (most the people who talk about problems at those shows know nothing about what they talk about anyway...they`re `acting` concerned..."Oh Wow, Sandra Bullock supports gay, african pigmy hairdressers. `I` need a cause to show I care just as much."
    2) A person using an acceptable platform to bring awareness to others is different than an attention whore using it to his own end.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 8:34 am
    @MeGrendel

    So you`re argument is that his speech was made in an appropriate way, or location?

    Do you run that school?

    If not, and I`m assuming that you don`t, how is it your place to say what was appropriate?

    And as I mentioned before, the audience gave him a standing ovation...so it seems they thought it was pretty appropriate.

    Are you just annoyed that what YOU personally think is right isn`t shared by the majority of the society that surrounds you?

    Well look at that...welcome to what it feels like to be a minority.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 8:36 am
    @MeGrendel

    "A person using an acceptable platform to bring awareness to others is different than an attention whore using it to his own end."

    1: You`re in no position to judge if he did it for attention for himself.
    2: And if he did do it for attention for himself, it`s expected because...and how many times must I keep saying this...HE. IS. AN. ACTOR. IT. IS. PART. OF. THE. JOB. DESCRIPTION. FFS.
  102. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5864 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 9:05 am
    Musuko42-"You`re in no position to judge if he did it for attention for himself."

    And you`re in no position to judge if he didn`t.

    I`ve only presented my opinion of what I thought his actions were. That`s all you have also.

    Musuko42-"just annoyed that what YOU personally think is right isn`t shared by the majority of the society"

    You`re reading a lot into it. I don`t care who he shares it with. Anyone who is so scared of gays that they `don`t want it talked about` are idiots. When people tell me their gay I just say `Cool, so I`ll check out the chicks and you check out their boyfriend`, or if it`s a girl that told me I just say `Hey, let`s both check out the chicks`.

    My whole point is the REASON he did it, which to me appears he is an attention whore.

    And where I`ll be happy for you to have your opposing opinion, your stance is `Oh NO!, he`s gay and you have no right to question his motives`.

    So whi
  103. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 25, 2013 at 9:17 am
    @MeGrendel

    "And you`re in no position to judge if he didn`t."

    Correct. And I haven`t done that. Show me where I`ve said that he didn`t.

    "I don`t care who he shares it with."

    Clearly you do, because you`ve been arguing about that very thing for days now.

    "Anyone who is so scared of gays that they `don`t want it talked about` are idiots."

    That`s exactly how you`ve been appearing to us. This gay guy talked about it, and you got into a tizzy over it.

    "My whole point is the REASON he did it, which to me appears he is an attention whore."

    Ah, now THAT is better: you`re now saying it APPEARS TO YOU to be that way, which is acceptable. Before, you had been saying he "is" an attention whore, which is an objective statement that you need to prove, which you couldn`t.
  104. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 9:20 am
    @MeGrendel

    "your stance is `Oh NO!, he`s gay and you have no right to question his motives`."

    No. My stance is that he`s a total stranger to you, and you have no idea what his thoughts are and what life he lives and what his environment is like.

    That is why you have no place making unfounded declarations of what his motives are. You are free to question his motives. But you have not been questioning his motives. You have already made up your mind about his motives. You skipped the whole questioning bit and went straight to making up your own answers.

    Whoah...pretty much like a creationist. Wow.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 25, 2013 at 9:52 am

    MeGrendel - you say "attention whore" like it`s a bad thing.
    Your long trolling comments in this thread could be seen by some as attention whoring. But why not? We all like to be the the STAR once in a while. :)
  106. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5864 posts
    January 25, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    Musuko42-"Whoah...pretty much like a creationist."

    Hey, no reason to get dirty.
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    bongsmoka420 Male 18-29
    290 posts
    January 29, 2013 at 10:12 am
    "We all like to be the STAR once in a while"
    yeah true dat. especially you Gerry. lol
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    Magentab0b Female 30-39
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    April 11, 2013 at 3:29 am
    You can come out in subtle ways. As he is an actor I think it was more about needing to be fearless.

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