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  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 1, 2013 at 4:55 pm
    Link: Demand A Plan: Demand Celebrities Go F Themselves - Hollywood Celeberties `demanding` a gun control plan? But 1,000,000 USA abortions per year is A-OK? F-word warning.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    January 1, 2013 at 5:05 pm
    Nice.
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2013 at 5:14 pm
    At first I thought the video was about how actors felt bad about glorifying gun violence in their medium. Not a clear way to show the message, really.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    January 1, 2013 at 5:18 pm
    I have way more friends and family members killed by drunk drivers and in wars than were ever even mugged or even had a gun pointed at them in the US. What should I demand about that? Liberals want change and want others to change. Conservatives want to be left alone and to leave others alone. Which one would you rather have as a neighbor.
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    robthelurker Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2013 at 5:19 pm
    gun control isnt going to stop violence all together, but it will make it harder for some one to walk into a public area with fire arms, personally i feel uncomfortable even letting police carry guns. personally i dont have a problem with abortion, if some one isnt ready and doesnt want to be a mother then that is her choice. who are we to judge?
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    Evil_Eye Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2013 at 5:20 pm
    ...And? That is fiction, doesn`t mean they think it should be reality. That is like saying people playing Modern Warfare want WW3.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 1, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Brilliant!
    "We demand a plan.." Here`s a plan for you.

    Step 1: Go get some lube.
    I`ll stell you step two when you get back.
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    Xprez Male 30-39
    676 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 5:35 pm
    Hollywood hypocrisy at it`s finest. "I know you see me on TV shooting people, but don`t do that yourself". Great examples.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    January 1, 2013 at 5:50 pm
    I rated this 1 star just for 5cat`s political crap. I don`t care if it`s 10 billion abortions a year, that doesn`t make abortion wrong.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2013 at 5:51 pm
    As usual, Hollywood is full of brainless celebrity tw*ts that think they know what`s best for everyone. Congress is the same way, only for ugly people.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 5:57 pm
    Aside from the fact that anybody equating the abortion of a fetus with the murder of an adult with a gun is too stupid to even contemplate arguing with, there is also the small (some might say superfluous) point that even if they could be compared then two wrongs wouldn`t make a right. Free access to guns is either a good idea, or a bad one. I believe the latter. And anyone that has to back up their belief in the former by bringing an irrelevancy like abortion rights into their reasoning probably doesn`t have very sound reasons for their beliefs.

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    synaw Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2013 at 6:02 pm
    5cats when will you and all the other silly republicans realize that the difference isn`t for abortions or against abortions? the difference is for safe abortions or against safe abortions. people will still get abortions even if it is illegal. JUST LIKE PEOPLE WILL STILL KILL IF THERE ARE GUN CONTROL LAWS, RIGHT?? do you see the hypocrisy in your thought process?
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    Crabes Male 30-39
    1285 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 6:15 pm
    these pople are just puppets
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2013 at 6:24 pm
    I`m sorry, what is this proving? It looks like one of those ICP neanderthals had a semi-political thought, and decided to try their best to express it using Windows Movie Maker.
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    timeghost Male 50-59
    31 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 6:29 pm
    This might have almost been witty if 5Cats had stuck to the theme of celebs speaking out about gun control yet glorifying gun violence in their films. Once you start mixing apples (abortion) and oranges(gun control) you lose any viable point you were trying to make.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2013 at 6:32 pm
    Anders. Brevik.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    January 1, 2013 at 6:39 pm
    Since when do abortions & gun control go together? Your caption, in an attempt to spew more of your right-wing bullsh*t, is a FAIL. Keep up the bad work, 5Cats!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2013 at 6:45 pm
    5Cats pointing out hypocrisy does nothing for the pro-gun cause
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    i8mygoldfish Male 18-29
    82 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 7:07 pm
    Yea this caption is complete bullpoo. Abortion and Gun Control going together? This Fails so hard.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    January 1, 2013 at 8:31 pm
    It`s alright 5Cats, you`re still winning! The low rating only proves it!
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3431 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 8:51 pm
    This is the same sort of irony I find in a person like fiddy cent complaining about folks illegally downloading his music.
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    thelonious Male 40-49
    3284 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 9:05 pm
    Millionaire Hollywood make-believe story play-time artists are on the absolute bottom of my list of people whose opinion I take seriously about anything. If anyone translates their love of an on-screen character to love of the actor to respect of their worldly-view, then you are caught up in idolization. I like a lot of George Gooney`s movies, and I like over 50% of U2`s music, but Bonhole isn`t gonna sway my observations by respecting his or his sound engineer`s musical talent. Fame does establish a platform, but not a verifiable political standpoint.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 1, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    I concur with davymid. A low rating is often a good thing.
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    Ilikelogic Male 40-49
    550 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 9:38 pm
    1. Gun control and abortion laws? Really?
    ....I will not discuss on this level, sorry.

    2. Some days ago, we saw a chart here about violence crimes.
    ....It proudly stated that US has even lower violence than UK (sic).
    ....Same chart showed US has about same level of violence per
    ....inhabitant than Luxemburg (even 10% lower, congrats).
    ....We have relatively strict gun control (like everywhere in Europe
    ....and UK).


    YOUR HOMEWORK, 5Cats:
    Find and compare the violent deaths
    per inhabitant of US, UK and Luxemburg. (100 words at least,
    1000 chars max).
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    Roland Male 30-39
    298 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 10:33 pm
    Troll submission
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    klaxor Male 18-29
    646 posts
    January 1, 2013 at 10:59 pm
    This was great, though I don`t know what abortions had to do with it.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 1, 2013 at 11:06 pm
    That was a bit odd,
    Hollywood stars complaining against guns, while they make their millions shooting folk in films, go figure????
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 1, 2013 at 11:12 pm
    Abortion and gun control,
    just cant see the prevalence
  29. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 2:42 am
    Whodat; Since when do abortions & gun control go together?

    These same hypocritical celebrities creating a culture of violence in their work, then spouting anti-gun rhetoric and decrying the act of a mentally ill individual. These are the same people that have no problem with the holocaust of the unborn that is the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed each year.

    These people live their lives protected by armed bodyguards and private security, yet they think `gun-free zones` are a good idea for the rest of us. The duplicity is dumbfounding.
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
    1244 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 3:06 am
    A post on gun control and abortion, my my there are going to be some soiled trousers around here today!
  31. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 4:00 am
    Fertilized fetuses are *not* babies. If you think they are, try to take them out upon fetilization and see what happens.

    I`m all for reducing the need for abortions down to zero. You know how you do that? Real sex education, not that abstinence-only bullpoo that works OH SO WELL! Easily obtainable contraception, more inventive and less restrictive adoption (including heavy taxes or other penalties for those who adopt out of the country), etc. If you`re interested in actually reducing abortion THAT`S how to do it. Making it illegal only makes it less visible. But don`t kid yourself into thinking it isn`t happening.

    As for gun control: Australia. That is all.
  32. Profile photo of PopCap
    PopCap Male 30-39
    730 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 4:44 am
    "Fertilized fetuses are *not* babies."

    F*** Science!
  33. Profile photo of Kain1
    Kain1 Male 18-29
    1473 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 4:48 am
    Wow.. 5Cats.. Way to ruin a good post..

    Gotta admit, the video itself makes a good point. We need to call people out on their bullpoo, no matter what view they`re arguing for.

    Then you bring this abortion bullcrap into the mix, and lose all that you could have gained.

    Boo to you, sir.
  34. Profile photo of PopCap
    PopCap Male 30-39
    730 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 4:49 am
    It`s unbelievably twisted how people can justify the murder of millions of babies simply by saying:

    "They aren`t babies."

    That`s pretty much the same as justifying what Hitler did to the Jews by saying:

    "They aren`t human."

    I guess that`s all the reasoning needed to make everything alright.

    Sick MFs.
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    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 4:54 am
    Hmm.. Isn`t this idea of Hollywood creating violent movies and supporting gun control exactly the same idea of abstinence creating unwanted pregnancies and thus abortions? Since abstinence is like bunch of people in a room all having a gun glued to their hands and itchy trigger finger. Accident waiting to happen.

    Guns are for idiots. Abstinence does not work. Linking the two in anyway is moronic. Shame on you OP.

    BTW, there has been zero evidence of movies affecting violence in any way. There are always some deranged lunatics so we`d have to ban books, newspapers, the entirety of internet to stop them.
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    Shelworth Male 50-59
    385 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 4:59 am
    Frist, you pretty much can`t go wrong doing the opposite of what a Celebretard says, second, keep religion out of laws!
  37. Profile photo of PopCap
    PopCap Male 30-39
    730 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 5:02 am
    "BTW, there has been zero evidence of movies affecting violence in any way."

    You don`t say? Again, F*** Science!

    Virginia Tech report on media violence:
    http://tinyurl.com/bmg2h2b
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 5:02 am
    As for movies and video games creating violence, I think we can disprove that right now: Germany, Japan, UK, Australia all watch the same movies and play the same video games that we watch and play. And yes, there`s violence there. There`s also violence all over. Some percentage of humans are just dumb and violent. Know the difference? In those other countries, the access to guns is greatly diminished. So, murder rate? Gun violence? Mass shootings? They almost never happen there. And mass knifings? Yes, they do happen. Know how many people die in those? Far, far, far fewer. Obviously.
  39. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 6:14 am
    SmagBoy: "..try to take them out upon fetilization and see what happens."

    I guess you`ve never heard of `test tube` babies. We`ve been fertilizing women`s eggs outside he womb since the 1980`s. Science is also working on an artificial womb and is not far from reaching their goal.

    Stating, "Why risk gestating the baby in a biological womb, when this new science can produce a child with our exact genetic makeup, perfect personality, and zero flaws."

    "The (human) womb is a dark and dangerous place, a hazardous environment," University of Virginia Professor Joseph Fletcher. Link

    We, as a society, still haven`t worked out the legal issues and such an extrauterine incubator would pose complicated and long put off debate to occur concerning custody and fetal rights.
  40. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 6:36 am
    CrakrJak, you keep worrying about the legal ramifications of artificial wombs. Meanwhile, I`ll worry about the legal rights of women to not be incubators for the state (e.g. rape, their health).
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    spreekiller Male 40-49
    46 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 7:01 am
    "Germany, Japan, UK, Australia all watch the same movies and play the same video games that we watch and play. And yes, there`s violence there. There`s also violence all over. Some percentage of humans are just dumb and violent. Know the difference? In those other countries, the access to guns is greatly diminished. So, murder rate? Gun violence? Mass shootings? They almost never happen there. And mass knifings? Yes, they do happen. Know how many people die in those? Far, far, far fewer. Obviously."

    Are we counting the atrocities that could have been prevented by a well armed citizenry Or do Jews, homos and Chinese not count? .. and the U.K ? Uk knife violence vs population
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
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    January 2, 2013 at 7:29 am
    I have a plan! How about term limits.... for celebrities!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 2, 2013 at 7:46 am
    HOLLYWOOD HYPOCRITES how is suprising they make their living being phony!
  44. Profile photo of RobSwindol
    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    January 2, 2013 at 7:52 am
    I have no problem with a plan. I don`t necessarily agree with their tactics, but theirs nothing wrong with gun control. Our constitution provides us the right to bare arms, but not without limitations. The second ammendment supports the idea of a "well regulated militia".
  45. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 2, 2013 at 7:53 am
    There are always some deranged lunatics so we`d have to ban books, newspapers, the entirety of internet to stop them.

    ROFL!! Spot the irony in that statement. You should stick to fluffing the royal family they`ll ban all the "bad thing" for your "saftey" nothing suspicous there......
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 2, 2013 at 7:55 am
    @RobSwindol

    The right of THE PEOPLE <----(see that) to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


    Of course your side will pick and choose what to see there the milita part has nothing to do with THE PEOPLE!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3890 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 8:30 am
    "These are the same people that have no problem with the holocaust of the unborn that is the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed each year."

    And here I thought you weren`t funny.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 8:57 am
    freedom to bare arms but not freedom to choose wether to terminate a foetus?
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    Forplay2k Male 50-59
    648 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 9:04 am
    We do not ban cars because of drunk drivers, why take my rights away because of a few nuts. This from the people who make millions off of gun violence in movies and TV. People will do this without guns, look at the UK. The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. AND THEY HAVE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    January 2, 2013 at 10:13 am
    @CrakrJak - "holocaust of the unborn"

    HAHAHAHAHA, I can`t thank you enough for that. I am going to have to start a death metal band as a side project just so I can use that as the band name!!!
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    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
    560 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:01 am
    @spreekiller carrying a knife which has a locking blade and is above 2 inches is illegal. (except obvious circumstances why you have a reason and can explain it, i.e taking it home from a shop or being taken to a pub with a birthday cake etc) Did you know if you`re committing speeding offence get caught they find drugs and a knife in your car that will count as a motoring, concealed weapon and drug offence. Even though the drugs and knife had nothing to do with the actual crime , you speeding, the thing you got caught doing. Crimes are over reported in that way to justify sweeping reforms in criminal justice system. And papers sensationalise it so they can sell more papers...
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:01 am
    Just a couple things peeps, my love for the English language dictates I have to mention that "Bare" and "Bear" mean two different things. "Bare" = like when you roll up your sleeves to display your "guns", and "Bear" = when you lift & carry around your boomsticks. The misuse of that term was just grating...

    Also, what a real Non Sequitor of a post. Rotten Tomatoes wouldn`t give this the grace of a passing nomination.
  53. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32834 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:03 am
    It`s a PARODY of the actual, liberal guilt trip video made by "celerities" calling for "A Plan" ANY plan! They have NO IDEA what would work, but DEMAND a plan none the less!

    So here they are: calling for "gun control" while making money... using guns!
    For mass murder? They get paid! Shooting, killing, blowing things up = OK if it`s a movie! It doesn`t glorify violence, heavens no!

    MEanwhile these self-righteous arse-holes also support unlimited abortion, to the tune of 1.2 MILLION babies per year in the USA alone!

    Priorities!

    Now to read the comments...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 2, 2013 at 11:05 am
    @Whodat

    Infanticide.
  55. Profile photo of Bakcagain21
    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
    560 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:05 am
    @forplay2k See this post explaining why the daily mail article is not credible It`s already been explained there what`s wrong with that article they eve tell you some of the reasons. Like including affray as a violent crime in stats when other countries don`t
  56. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32834 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:13 am
    Free access to guns is either a good idea, or a bad one. I believe the latter.
    @MacGuffin: A woman has a "right to choose" abortion, but NO RIGHT to "choose gun ownership". THAT is the issue, and don`t suggest for one second her abortion doesn`t "harm others" eh?

    Hollywood is all for abortion, but dead against the 2nd Amendment. @markust (on another thread) told us "gun nuts" to look at the pictures of 20+ slain children and <feel guilty> about it. Well, how about 1,000,000 slain children? THAT`S not a problem too?
    What steps are made to prevent unwanted prengnancies? How much money is spent? Now compare that to the cost of "gun control" (trillions) and the # of lives saved... it`s a liberal "guilt trip" and I`ll have none of it!

    Also: This is a PARODY of a real celebrity video demanding "a plan for gun control". Lost from the title & description...
  57. Profile photo of chalket
    chalket Male 50-59
    2712 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:27 am
    5Rats, you are (still) such an idiot. No babies are aborted. FETUSES are aborted. Potential babies are NOT babies. By your logic, you should be held responsible for all those lives you kill every time you jack off, numbnuts.
  58. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32834 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:30 am
    @Kain1: Well, thanks I guess. There`s so much hypocricy in "liberal-land" it`s tough to keep it all seperated.

    Same for "death penalty" too: Same people who oppose it because "laws don`t stop crime" DEMAND more "gun laws" in order to... stop crime!
    Same sh|t, different pile, same lib-tards spouting it.

    Excellent linky @spreekiller! Other sites debate the same stuff as IAB, lolz! In the same way...

    HEY ALL YOU GUYS (and gals) FROM EUROPE: Holocaust! Holodomor! "Other Losses" Remember your history or you`ll repeat it!

    The USA and Canada had internment camps too, which is also bad, but nothing on the scale of Europe.

    As For Gun Laws Lowering Crime? THAT is an absolute lie.
  59. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32834 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:38 am
    @chalket: Intact Dilation and Extraction

    Also: What about saving the life of an aborted baby who comes out alive? The USA refuses to decide on that. Sure it`s `rare`, but when something happens 1 million times? The numbers add up.

    And how "common" is mass shootings? A LOT more rare than 8 month abortions, that`s a fact!

    iirc: In England they place the "live born feteus" on a table until it stops crying, takes an hour or two. Yeah, no babies are aborted... in your dreams pal!
  60. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32834 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:46 am
    Furthermore: Chicago hit 500 Gun Murders last year. Just Chicago! Some of the toughest "gun laws" in the USA and they have... MORE gun violence than the entire UK!

    So the very same people who say "make abortion legal so it`s safe"
    Turn around and say: "ban guns so it`s safe"

    Yet the places (in the USA) with the MOST gun bans have the WORST gun violence! And it`s getting WORSE evey year.

    States like Virginia, where gun ownership per capita has risen over the past decade? Gun violence (and almost ALL other violent crime) has FALLEN.

    Multiple, NON-NRA facts are linked below.
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    Jowsh Male 18-29
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    January 2, 2013 at 11:48 am
    Provocative post title of the day: Check
  62. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32834 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 11:51 am
    @pooptart`s excellent post
    Go look for yourself at the FBI crime stats! Crime = Big Cities, Gun Ownership = Rural
    Get it? Less guns = More crime!
  63. Profile photo of bedbugsbite
    bedbugsbite Female 18-29
    41 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 3:28 pm
    5cats: "And how "common" is mass shootings? A LOT more rare than 8 month abortions, that`s a fact! " No. No it is not a fact. Where do you get your info from? You are Canadian, did you know that the latest stats show that less then 0.02% of abortion are performed after 21 weeks? Also, that a Canadian woman can not get an elective abortion past 24 weeks gestation? Later term abortions are only preformed in cases where the both the woman and fetus would die otherwise, they are not preformed in clinics as an elective procedure and they are very very rare cases. Please read up on your facts before posting. Sigh. http://www.abortionincanada.ca/stats/ abortion_gestational_age.html http://www.canadiansforchoice.ca/ hottopic01.html
    Because KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! :-P


  64. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32834 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    "Also, that a Canadian woman can not get an elective abortion past 24 weeks gestation?"
    That is an absolute lie.
    There is NO LAW at all regarding abortions in Canada. Any "rule or guideline" you may find has no power. Morgentaler said it: ANY abortion, ANY time.

    Yes, it`s a small %. Times 1 million it`s not so small, eh? ALSO the chance you`ll be killed in a mass shooting spree is still MUCH smaller than that, so I am correct.

    Your Links: Abortions Canada
    say NOTHING remotely like what you`re claiming.

    Quote: Of the 64,641 reported abortions performed on Canadian women in 2010, detailed reports on gestational age exist for only 27,576. The age of the fetus at the time of abortion is not known for the remaining 37,065 abortions.

    As usual: Abortionists tell lies.
  65. Profile photo of bedbugsbite
    bedbugsbite Female 18-29
    41 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 6:18 pm
    Read the second link 5cats, It explains why there are no elective abortions past 24 weeks. You claiming that there are 1 million 8 month pregnancy terminations is just plain wrong. Maybe if you said after 5 months you would have a leg to stand on, but 8? No. Sorry. And "As usual: Abortionists tell lies", what? Because not all provinces require the gestational age to be documented? That link is an anti-abortion website and it still supports the stats I gave.
    Either way, using abortion as an argument for gun control seems ludicrous. All it does is replaces one emotional argument with another and distracts from the actual issue. I am not passionate either way about gun control, I have opinions, but I haven`t studied it like you apparently have. Maybe you are right on those. But I have studied abortion in Canada extensively for years and I do know the facts on that.
  66. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 7:55 pm
    Dude - Conan? Are you f`ing serious? Based on the fallacy that a `plan` will stop ACTUAL criminals who are intent on carrying out violent plans of their own? Of course, that is based on an assumption as well and something I`m sure has already been covered here. Moving along..
  67. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32834 posts
    January 2, 2013 at 9:56 pm
    Reading Comprehension 101: I said there`s 1.2 million US abortions per year. SOME small % of them are 8 monthers. 600 -1200 per year. Again, not ALL abortions are gestation recorded.
    Canada has NO LAW at all. Any abortion, no questions asked.
    Of the 64K "reported abortions" and doctors do so voluntarily: no law! over half reported NO gestation date. Put the LIE to your claim, eh?
    Attempts to limit "partial induction" or provide rights for "abortion survivors" in the USA are shot down and being "anti-choice".

    As for Your Second Link with a name like that" it`s clearly PRO-Abortion, duh? And I found no useful info at all.

    "Canadians for Choice is a pro-choice" see?
    Lies, you tell them! And have the gall to `correct` me? Pft!
  68. Profile photo of Nerd_Rage
    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
    425 posts
    January 3, 2013 at 8:46 pm
    every celeb in this video is an illuminati, trying to pacify us and our sovereignty.

    Shoot them.

    All of them.

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