4 Dead, Including Gunman In Aurora Shooting [Pic+]

Submitted by: MrOrange 4 years ago in

This hostage situation took place at 3am this morning--details are coming out by the hour.
There are 62 comments:
Male 15,832
[quote]@AJ: Mexican drug cartels get their guns from border states like Texas.[/quote]
@Prussia`sFool Not true (excepting, of course, the ones that Eric Holder sold them in a pernicious attempt to promote violence and murder of innocent Mexicans so as to justify further restricting our rights under the 2nd Amendment). Most of the guns used by criminals in Mexico come up through Central America.
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Male 15,832
[quote]Just out of interest, does anybody know of a serious politician or pressure group seeking to ban all privately held guns? [/quote]
Yes, a many elected Democrats would love to ban private gun ownership. However, they know they can`t actually do it in one fell swoop, so they push their agenda incrementally.

First they want registration of handguns, and then all firearms. Next they want to ban private sales, and then start putting licensed dealers out of business. Next they will ban so-called assault rifles (ugly guns), then semi-automatic pistols, then semi-auto rifles and shotguns, then all handguns, then any firearm that doesn`t have a "sporting purpose," (as if the 2nd amendment was adopted to guarantee our right to keep and bear sporting goods), and finally they`ll confiscate all firearms -- at least all those that people were stupid enough to register.

Just don`t expect them to have the intellectual honesty to tell you that up front.
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Male 15,832
[quote]ive asked twice and got no response. if there is a gun ban and all the law abiding citizens turn in their guns, how do they protect themselves from criminals still in possession of handguns?[/quote]
They don`t.

Hey, at least you got a response.
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Male 27
ive asked twice and got no response. if there is a gun ban and all the law abiding citizens turn in their guns, how do they protect themselves from criminals still in possession of handguns?
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Male 14,332
This is one of them many more if you look. Politicians know they can do it outright all at once so they go about it laws by law until they get what they want.
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Male 7,123
Just out of interest, does anybody know of a serious politician or pressure group seeking to ban all privately held guns? Or, vice versa, seeking to remove all regulation?

If not then surely the debate is about the details of gun control, not the principle
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Male 5,811
[quote]That sheriff shot back at them and bought alot of people time not making a good case on that one.[/quote]
Well, 10 people were already dead when he finally got there, and since he wasn`t wearing his glasses he couldn`t hit a barn door with his gun. He did manage to buy one injured student time to get away, but he only fired 4 shots before the shooter went back inside. To say he bought many time to escape is incorrect.
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Male 14,332
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Male 14,332
[quote]There was also a sheriff at Columbine the day Klebold and Harris carried out their massacre.[/quote]

That sheriff shot back at them and bought alot of people time not making a good case on that one.
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Male 14,332
Notice not one source of this story mentions the legality of the gun used. MSN was pushing this down peoples throats all weekend and they`re going to keep doing it everytime something with a gun happens. Nope that`s not an agenda there.....
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Male 14,827
Way down the leaderboard.
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Male 27
Yet, overall murders by guns are at their lowest point in 10+ years.
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Male 27
@FoolsPrussia Yet the guns they get are illegal in the US. Your point?
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Male 27
@MattPrince

Actually it still kind of is. AMD, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, Apple, and Google are all very heavy driving forces behind the tech industry.
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Male 27
@Listypoos People need to realize it`s the same story with the `assault rifles` too. The AR15 has been on the market since the 60s, I believe.
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Male 27
Alright, these shootings become more and more frequent, and there has been no change in gun regulation recently. I think it`s time I grab my tinfoil hat.
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Male 27
There were over 19,000 deaths by accidental drug overdose in 2004. The majority of these deaths were from prescription drugs, not illegal drugs. Banning prescription drugs makes as much sense as banning guns
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Male 27
According to Dr. Gary Kleck, criminologist at Florida State University in Tallahassee and author of "Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America," a book used by many in the gun debate, 800,000-2,500,000 crimes are stopped by guns each year.
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Male 27
@Fools: fair point, but can you please address my earlier question? "So lets assume we ban all guns, only law abiding citizens will abide by the law; therefore, law abiding citizens will be defenseless and criminals will be the only ones left with guns. Who is in control now?"
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Male 2,220
"A random hostage situation does not a downfall make. "

Agreed, my point was that, despite being involved at some point with all the processes and hardware involved in this posting, the USA is no longer essential to it.

Interesting opportunity to brush up on the history of electrical power distribution. Tesla was certainly pivotal.
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Male 3,445
@wzntme1776: The gun free zone argument is ridiculous. There was a private citizen with a gun at the Giffords shooting, and he was unable to stop Loughner. There was also a sheriff at Columbine the day Klebold and Harris carried out their massacre.

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Male 27
@Fools: You just confirmed the point that just because you make them illegal doesnt mean criminals wont find a way to get them, i.e. meth, cocaine, heroine, alcohol during prohibition, et al.
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Male 27
`Gun Free Zones` (like they have at schools) only serve to tell criminals, "Hey, if you come in with a gun there is nothing we can do to stop you!"
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Male 27
So lets assume we ban all guns, only law abiding citizens will abide by the law; therefore, law abiding citizens will be defenseless and criminals will be the only ones left with guns. Who is in control now?
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Male 3,445
@AJ: Mexican drug cartels get their guns from border states like Texas.
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Male 10,339
Ciudad Juarez: Population 1.3 million. All guns are illegal. Murders last year by gun = 1900.

El Paso: Population 600,000. Open and concealed carry legal. Murders last year by gun = 16. Hmmmm.
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Male 26
Why is this on here? Some guy from Europe must have Aurora and Shooting as key words on his news feed or something. This isn`t entertaining, or insightful. Its some guy hopped up on Meth and shooting his in-laws while his wife escapes out a second story window. I don`t visit I-am-bored to be reminded that this happened 5 minutes from my house yesterday. Dick bags.
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Male 3,147
"If they actually passed a Constitutional Ammendment and did ban guns,
the same thing would happen that happened when they banned Alcohold & Pot
... We will get it anyway.
The governement will lose all control and we`ll have gun-runners, smugglers, and a powerful, violent crime cartel will
rise up to sell them.
The US just doesn`t learn."


That is one of the reasons I wouldn`t be in favour of a total ban if I was an American. Totally banning something after it has already been so readily available rarely works.
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Male 4,893

HG - That explains why it`s a story in Aurora. It`s a story on IAB so we can fight about gun control.
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Male 1
So proud to live in Aurora right now. Barely into it past Denver but still.
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Male 2,675
I have an ex-gf that lives in Aurora and used to brag about how small-town-wonderful of an environment it was (implying "compared to [MY] life") ... hmm.
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Male 38,457

If they actually passed a Constitutional Ammendment and did ban guns,
the same thing would happen that happened when they banned Alcohold & Pot
... We will get it anyway.
The governement will lose all control and we`ll have gun-runners, smugglers, and a powerful, violent crime cartel will
rise up to sell them.
The US just doesn`t learn.
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Male 8,131
dm2754

"who cares"

Well, do you realize this is the same small-ish city where the Dark Knight movie theater shooting occurred? That is why it is a story.
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Male 3,612
who cares
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Female 6,381
Now, y`see, if the three victims had all been packing heat, the shooter wouldn`t have got any further than the first one! They should all have had handguns with that druggie nut around the house!
Right, NRA?
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Female 373
I like how people treat a person`s country like it is a product of the things they do. Personally I just live here, I may be proud to be Australian, but I have had very little effect on the good and the bad side of the country. As for the meth/gun debate, not really sure I care anymore. If people just want kick ass guns available to them, let them. It is nice to know that when shi hits the fan, there is a gun at hand for people to sought that stuff out.
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Male 2,619
"Let`s take away cars, because they kill people too."

F*king morons, when will you learn?
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Male 1,397
Oh, boy.....they`re DEFINITELY coming after your guns!!
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Male 7,775
Todays shooting, ladies and gentlemen, for your perusal. Damn those drink and drugs. I`ll bet if they had more guns they wouldn`t drink so much.
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Male 8,131
MattPrince

"Samsung Computer"
Look at every aspect of that. The monitor, the memory, the processor, the hard drive. I guarantee at some point in the process an American inventor or company had a hand in the development.

"OS - Microsucks"

"Browser Chrome"

"Internet"
The internet as it functions today is a heavily American developed entity. Not to mention the american companies and servers that make the internet possible. I`m not saying other companies couldn`t do it, I`m just saying that is how it was done.

"Electricity?"
Again, the harnessing, commercialization, and mass distribution was developed heavily in America.

I`m not by any means jingoistic. But my point stands. The US has its hands on so many things. A random hostage situation does not a downfall make.
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Male 5,314
@WhoDat6484

Clearly you`ve not heard of my dear friend Mr. Al Gore
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Male 3,909
There`s no one person who "invented" the internet. Some say the idea dates back to WWII, Vinton Cerf (born in New Haven, CT) is given credit for developing TCP/IP protocol and TBL gets credit for HTTP. There were so many different people/companies involved that credit cannot solely be given to any one of these people/companies.
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Male 13,624
True US grunt
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Male 13,624
I fear this is turning out to be a EU vs US and this is not good, I now we invented the jump jet, but YOU invented V8 muscle cars Dodge Chargers and Im nuff said just by saying `Charger`
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Male 2,220
We are good at inventing stuff us brits.



Square bullets for muslims. Sweet suffering drat.
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Male 2,220
@Holygod

Samsung Computer - invented by babbage (UK), manufacturer Korea + various

OS - Microsucks - yep that *is* USA, hope your chest swells with pride..

Browser Chrome - parent company is USA, development - worldwide.

Internet - invented by TBL - UK

Electricity? oh ffs - too many hands on that weapon, but as I`m not plugged in Volta gets my nod, an Italian !

I`ll not bother pointing out that are `lectric is developed over here, even if the utility company is owned by a foreign company (would be wrong for me to take this any further...)

I think if USA disappeared overnight, the world would be a wierd place, not a better one, certaily unstable due to the huge power void, but it wouldn`t just stop.
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Male 13,624
turdburglar
Europe is more fecked up than you ever will be dude
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Male 13,624
Pyrosisflame
Why?
I can see where gerry is coming from,
You use Meths, you is way out the zone,
Its possible he took it, go figure
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Male 3,445
For the last time, asking for gun control is not "blaming the guns."
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Male 4,893

We need more laws. Every time something happens, we should react by making more and more laws, until the vocal minority are pleased. Maybe then europe will love us. Please europe we need your approval!
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Male 592
gerry1of1. that was a stupid statement.
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Male 13,624
HolyGod
Im guessing corydora has been sniffing the garlic again or summat
He hasnt checked on Europe`s health recently
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Male 8,131
Corydoras87

"you`re going down america"

Hahaha. K. Look around your room while you browse the internet. Chances are pretty much everything in the room including the browser, computer, electricity, and internet that allowed you to make that comment were invented in, owned by, or made by an American company.

I love Europe, and America has s.hit tons of problems, but America still runs the world. That isn`t going to change because of a few random shootings here and there. Don`t be ridiculous.
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Male 13,624
CodeJockey
Ouch..Now thats real news
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Male 5,617
[quote]...meanwhile in german news: soccer player and his wife split up.[/quote]
Well, we did have the guy in Maryland that accidentally injured his GF by putting a sex toy on the end of a reciprocating saw...
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Male 38,457

Now, before we go off blaming this on the guns, I think maybe the Meth might have played a part as well. In fact, we should totally ban the use of Meth so these things won`t happen anymore.

I`m trying to make a point. Did it get through or was I too vague?
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Male 13,624
kathylilly
God damn, feckin spammer is on this one too
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Male 13,624
Ah didnt the German footballer give his wife a good twat round the head?
And no Europe is in deep crap,
At least the US is on its own without the EU calling the shots and slowly wrecking every other bloody country in it
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Male 5,190
Can`t wait to see what the regulars IAB people say.

Oh ya, same poo as always and no once changes their mind.
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Male 5,314
Gee, I forgot how perfect Europe is. Thanks for reminding us Corydoras87.
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Male 642
shooty shooty shoot.. meanwhile in german news: soccer player and his wife split up. And Unemployment rate as low as 30 years ago. Notice something? you`re going down america
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Male 2,419
Link: 4 Dead, Including Gunman In Aurora Shooting [Pic+] [Rate Link] - This hostage situation took place at 3am this morning--details are coming out by the hour.
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