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  1. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    January 5, 2013 at 11:53 am
    Link: 4 Dead, Including Gunman In Aurora Shooting - This hostage situation took place at 3am this morning--details are coming out by the hour.
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    Corydoras87 Male 18-29
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    January 5, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    shooty shooty shoot.. meanwhile in german news: soccer player and his wife split up. And Unemployment rate as low as 30 years ago. Notice something? you`re going down america
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    January 5, 2013 at 12:09 pm
    Gee, I forgot how perfect Europe is. Thanks for reminding us Corydoras87.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 12:45 pm
    Ah didnt the German footballer give his wife a good twat round the head?
    And no Europe is in deep crap,
    At least the US is on its own without the EU calling the shots and slowly wrecking every other bloody country in it
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 12:46 pm
    kathylilly
    God damn, feckin spammer is on this one too
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 5, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Now, before we go off blaming this on the guns, I think maybe the Meth might have played a part as well. In fact, we should totally ban the use of Meth so these things won`t happen anymore.

    I`m trying to make a point. Did it get through or was I too vague?
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 1:01 pm
    ...meanwhile in german news: soccer player and his wife split up.
    Well, we did have the guy in Maryland that accidentally injured his GF by putting a sex toy on the end of a reciprocating saw...
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    CodeJockey
    Ouch..Now thats real news
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    January 5, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    Corydoras87

    "you`re going down america"

    Hahaha. K. Look around your room while you browse the internet. Chances are pretty much everything in the room including the browser, computer, electricity, and internet that allowed you to make that comment were invented in, owned by, or made by an American company.

    I love Europe, and America has s.hit tons of problems, but America still runs the world. That isn`t going to change because of a few random shootings here and there. Don`t be ridiculous.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 1:11 pm
    HolyGod
    Im guessing corydora has been sniffing the garlic again or summat
    He hasnt checked on Europe`s health recently
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    Pyrosisflame Male 18-29
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    January 5, 2013 at 1:36 pm
    gerry1of1. that was a stupid statement.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    January 5, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    We need more laws. Every time something happens, we should react by making more and more laws, until the vocal minority are pleased. Maybe then europe will love us. Please europe we need your approval!
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    January 5, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    For the last time, asking for gun control is not "blaming the guns."
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    Pyrosisflame
    Why?
    I can see where gerry is coming from,
    You use Meths, you is way out the zone,
    Its possible he took it, go figure
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 1:46 pm
    turdburglar
    Europe is more fecked up than you ever will be dude
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 2:37 pm
    @Holygod

    Samsung Computer - invented by babbage (UK), manufacturer Korea + various

    OS - Microsucks - yep that *is* USA, hope your chest swells with pride..

    Browser Chrome - parent company is USA, development - worldwide.

    Internet - invented by TBL - UK

    Electricity? oh ffs - too many hands on that weapon, but as I`m not plugged in Volta gets my nod, an Italian !

    I`ll not bother pointing out that are `lectric is developed over here, even if the utility company is owned by a foreign company (would be wrong for me to take this any further...)

    I think if USA disappeared overnight, the world would be a wierd place, not a better one, certaily unstable due to the huge power void, but it wouldn`t just stop.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    We are good at inventing stuff us brits.



    Square bullets for muslims. Sweet suffering drat.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 3:02 pm
    I fear this is turning out to be a EU vs US and this is not good, I now we invented the jump jet, but YOU invented V8 muscle cars Dodge Chargers and Im nuff said just by saying `Charger`
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    True US grunt
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    January 5, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    There`s no one person who "invented" the internet. Some say the idea dates back to WWII, Vinton Cerf (born in New Haven, CT) is given credit for developing TCP/IP protocol and TBL gets credit for HTTP. There were so many different people/companies involved that credit cannot solely be given to any one of these people/companies.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    January 5, 2013 at 3:40 pm
    @WhoDat6484

    Clearly you`ve not heard of my dear friend Mr. Al Gore
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    January 5, 2013 at 4:34 pm
    MattPrince

    "Samsung Computer"
    Look at every aspect of that. The monitor, the memory, the processor, the hard drive. I guarantee at some point in the process an American inventor or company had a hand in the development.

    "OS - Microsucks"

    "Browser Chrome"

    "Internet"
    The internet as it functions today is a heavily American developed entity. Not to mention the american companies and servers that make the internet possible. I`m not saying other companies couldn`t do it, I`m just saying that is how it was done.

    "Electricity?"
    Again, the harnessing, commercialization, and mass distribution was developed heavily in America.

    I`m not by any means jingoistic. But my point stands. The US has its hands on so many things. A random hostage situation does not a downfall make.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    January 5, 2013 at 4:37 pm
    Todays shooting, ladies and gentlemen, for your perusal. Damn those drink and drugs. I`ll bet if they had more guns they wouldn`t drink so much.
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    furrything Male 50-59
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    January 5, 2013 at 5:05 pm
    Oh, boy.....they`re DEFINITELY coming after your guns!!
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    IRockYeah Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 5:30 pm
    "Let`s take away cars, because they kill people too."

    F*king morons, when will you learn?
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    Sistarose Female 30-39
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    January 5, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    I like how people treat a person`s country like it is a product of the things they do. Personally I just live here, I may be proud to be Australian, but I have had very little effect on the good and the bad side of the country. As for the meth/gun debate, not really sure I care anymore. If people just want kick ass guns available to them, let them. It is nice to know that when shi hits the fan, there is a gun at hand for people to sought that stuff out.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    January 5, 2013 at 6:16 pm
    Now, y`see, if the three victims had all been packing heat, the shooter wouldn`t have got any further than the first one! They should all have had handguns with that druggie nut around the house!
    Right, NRA?
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2013 at 6:38 pm
    who cares
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    January 5, 2013 at 7:57 pm
    dm2754

    "who cares"

    Well, do you realize this is the same small-ish city where the Dark Knight movie theater shooting occurred? That is why it is a story.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 5, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    If they actually passed a Constitutional Ammendment and did ban guns,
    the same thing would happen that happened when they banned Alcohold & Pot
    ... We will get it anyway.
    The governement will lose all control and we`ll have gun-runners, smugglers, and a powerful, violent crime cartel will
    rise up to sell them.
    The US just doesn`t learn.
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    Runemang Male 30-39
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    January 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm
    I have an ex-gf that lives in Aurora and used to brag about how small-town-wonderful of an environment it was (implying "compared to life") ... hmm.
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    dravanchad Male 18-29
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    January 5, 2013 at 9:34 pm
    So proud to live in Aurora right now. Barely into it past Denver but still.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2013 at 3:35 am

    HG - That explains why it`s a story in Aurora. It`s a story on IAB so we can fight about gun control.
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2013 at 6:43 am
    "If they actually passed a Constitutional Ammendment and did ban guns,
    the same thing would happen that happened when they banned Alcohold & Pot
    ... We will get it anyway.
    The governement will lose all control and we`ll have gun-runners, smugglers, and a powerful, violent crime cartel will
    rise up to sell them.
    The US just doesn`t learn."


    That is one of the reasons I wouldn`t be in favour of a total ban if I was an American. Totally banning something after it has already been so readily available rarely works.
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    Floodums Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2013 at 7:19 am
    Why is this on here? Some guy from Europe must have Aurora and Shooting as key words on his news feed or something. This isn`t entertaining, or insightful. Its some guy hopped up on Meth and shooting his in-laws while his wife escapes out a second story window. I don`t visit I-am-bored to be reminded that this happened 5 minutes from my house yesterday. Dick bags.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2013 at 7:24 am
    Ciudad Juarez: Population 1.3 million. All guns are illegal. Murders last year by gun = 1900.

    El Paso: Population 600,000. Open and concealed carry legal. Murders last year by gun = 16. Hmmmm.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2013 at 9:37 am
    @AJ: Mexican drug cartels get their guns from border states like Texas.
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    wzntme1776 Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2013 at 9:49 am
    So lets assume we ban all guns, only law abiding citizens will abide by the law; therefore, law abiding citizens will be defenseless and criminals will be the only ones left with guns. Who is in control now?
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    wzntme1776 Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2013 at 9:51 am
    `Gun Free Zones` (like they have at schools) only serve to tell criminals, "Hey, if you come in with a gun there is nothing we can do to stop you!"
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    wzntme1776 Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2013 at 10:04 am
    @Fools: You just confirmed the point that just because you make them illegal doesnt mean criminals wont find a way to get them, i.e. meth, cocaine, heroine, alcohol during prohibition, et al.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2013 at 10:12 am
    @wzntme1776: The gun free zone argument is ridiculous. There was a private citizen with a gun at the Giffords shooting, and he was unable to stop Loughner. There was also a sheriff at Columbine the day Klebold and Harris carried out their massacre.

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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2013 at 11:43 am
    "A random hostage situation does not a downfall make. "

    Agreed, my point was that, despite being involved at some point with all the processes and hardware involved in this posting, the USA is no longer essential to it.

    Interesting opportunity to brush up on the history of electrical power distribution. Tesla was certainly pivotal.
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    wzntme1776 Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2013 at 5:27 pm
    @Fools: fair point, but can you please address my earlier question? "So lets assume we ban all guns, only law abiding citizens will abide by the law; therefore, law abiding citizens will be defenseless and criminals will be the only ones left with guns. Who is in control now?"
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    wzntme1776 Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2013 at 5:30 pm
    According to Dr. Gary Kleck, criminologist at Florida State University in Tallahassee and author of "Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America," a book used by many in the gun debate, 800,000-2,500,000 crimes are stopped by guns each year.
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    wzntme1776 Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2013 at 5:31 pm
    There were over 19,000 deaths by accidental drug overdose in 2004. The majority of these deaths were from prescription drugs, not illegal drugs. Banning prescription drugs makes as much sense as banning guns
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    rosieodonnel Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2013 at 6:32 pm
    Alright, these shootings become more and more frequent, and there has been no change in gun regulation recently. I think it`s time I grab my tinfoil hat.
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    rosieodonnel Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2013 at 6:38 pm
    @Listypoos People need to realize it`s the same story with the `assault rifles` too. The AR15 has been on the market since the 60s, I believe.
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    rosieodonnel Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2013 at 6:40 pm
    @MattPrince

    Actually it still kind of is. AMD, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, Apple, and Google are all very heavy driving forces behind the tech industry.
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    rosieodonnel Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2013 at 6:42 pm
    @FoolsPrussia Yet the guns they get are illegal in the US. Your point?
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    wzntme1776 Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2013 at 8:38 pm
    Yet, overall murders by guns are at their lowest point in 10+ years.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    January 7, 2013 at 5:44 am
    Way down the leaderboard.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 7, 2013 at 6:22 am
    Notice not one source of this story mentions the legality of the gun used. MSN was pushing this down peoples throats all weekend and they`re going to keep doing it everytime something with a gun happens. Nope that`s not an agenda there.....
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 7, 2013 at 6:24 am
    There was also a sheriff at Columbine the day Klebold and Harris carried out their massacre.

    That sheriff shot back at them and bought alot of people time not making a good case on that one.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 7, 2013 at 6:39 am
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 7, 2013 at 7:06 am
    That sheriff shot back at them and bought alot of people time not making a good case on that one.
    Well, 10 people were already dead when he finally got there, and since he wasn`t wearing his glasses he couldn`t hit a barn door with his gun. He did manage to buy one injured student time to get away, but he only fired 4 shots before the shooter went back inside. To say he bought many time to escape is incorrect.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    January 7, 2013 at 9:49 am
    Just out of interest, does anybody know of a serious politician or pressure group seeking to ban all privately held guns? Or, vice versa, seeking to remove all regulation?

    If not then surely the debate is about the details of gun control, not the principle
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 7, 2013 at 12:49 pm
    This is one of them many more if you look. Politicians know they can do it outright all at once so they go about it laws by law until they get what they want.
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    wzntme1776 Male 40-49
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    January 7, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    ive asked twice and got no response. if there is a gun ban and all the law abiding citizens turn in their guns, how do they protect themselves from criminals still in possession of handguns?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    January 7, 2013 at 10:53 pm
    ive asked twice and got no response. if there is a gun ban and all the law abiding citizens turn in their guns, how do they protect themselves from criminals still in possession of handguns?
    They don`t.

    Hey, at least you got a response.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    January 7, 2013 at 11:06 pm
    Just out of interest, does anybody know of a serious politician or pressure group seeking to ban all privately held guns?
    Yes, a many elected Democrats would love to ban private gun ownership. However, they know they can`t actually do it in one fell swoop, so they push their agenda incrementally.

    First they want registration of handguns, and then all firearms. Next they want to ban private sales, and then start putting licensed dealers out of business. Next they will ban so-called assault rifles (ugly guns), then semi-automatic pistols, then semi-auto rifles and shotguns, then all handguns, then any firearm that doesn`t have a "sporting purpose," (as if the 2nd amendment was adopted to guarantee our right to keep and bear sporting goods), and finally they`ll confiscate all firearms -- at least all those that people were stupid enough to register.

    Just don`t expect them to have the intellectual honesty to tell you that up front.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    January 7, 2013 at 11:14 pm
    @AJ: Mexican drug cartels get their guns from border states like Texas.
    @Prussia`sFool Not true (excepting, of course, the ones that Eric Holder sold them in a pernicious attempt to promote violence and murder of innocent Mexicans so as to justify further restricting our rights under the 2nd Amendment). Most of the guns used by criminals in Mexico come up through Central America.

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