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37 Responses to Two Firefighters Shot In New York State, 2 Injured

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    Corydoras87 Male 18-29
    642 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 12:00 pm
    Link: Two Firefighters Shot In New York State, 2 Injured - We clearly need more guns to stop this! Don`t you see??
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    mcssls Female 70 & Over
    695 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    we don`t need more gun control and if you believe we do I`ll shoot you in the face, lol
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 12:39 pm
    It happened because fires are gun-free zones.
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    chalket Male 50-59
    2712 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 12:45 pm
    Why aren`t all firefighters armed? If every single person in America over the age of 5 was packing heat, there would never be any more gun-violence ever again! Right, NRA?
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    syke22 Male 18-29
    1136 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    Only the scum of the earth would kill those whose job is to help others.
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    Smaug_r Female 18-29
    8 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    Well obviously, if guns were illegal that madman would have never been able to kill anyone!
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    It`s matches you Americans need to ban. Guns don`t kill firefighters. It`s homicidal maniacs with guns and easy access to matches that kill firefighters, silly!
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    syke22 Male 18-29
    1136 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    Oh and it looks like he was a convicted felon who wasn`t allowed to purchase legal firearms.
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    Corydoras87 Male 18-29
    642 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 1:39 pm
    I`m sure that where ever is a fire, police is there with them, at least it`s like that here in germany, to redirect traffic, basically to make things safe and keep the onlookers at bay, and they are armed, why weren`t armed people able to prevent this?
    I`m sure the armed people that they would put in schools would do a much better job.

    Right?
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    GatorGrad09 Male 18-29
    14 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    They should pass a law that makes it illegal for felons to have guns. If we took his gun away, this wouldn`t have happened.

    Oh right, there IS a law for that. Clearly that stops these crazies!
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    Randy4861 Male 40-49
    187 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    Oh yes, banning guns will stop mass killings. No one remembers Timothy McVeigh, do they?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    You guys are missing the point......I`m telling you, controlling the sale of matches is the key. Wait, you don`t have anything in The Constitution about the right to bear fire, do you? If so, never mind, I`m sure you can fudge it. Most of the other rights you ostensibly have and fine ideals you claim to aspire to seem pretty open to negotiation and interpretation in practice.
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    thefatviking Male 18-29
    202 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 4:00 pm
    OMG, some non-nice individual shot at firefighters!!!!
    This poo happens all the time in Europe.
    And guns are MUCH heavier here than they would be after AWB in the US.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31759 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    Obviously another LAW would have prevented this from happening!

    So what if he killed himself, the threat of "jailtime" would have made him NOT do this, right liberals?

    No one`s answered my query:
    Why are the very same people who are OPPOSED to the death penalty, "because it doesn`t prevent crimes" so strongly FOR more gun laws? Do new laws "prevent crime"?

    @Randy: It doesn`t fit the "meme" so it is ignored. ONLY guns kill people, not bombs, fire or airplanes...

    This dude had illegally aquired guns, no law in the universe would have prevented this. Period!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31759 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    @Corydoras87: Yes, the police WERE on the scene, it states in the article:

    "Police officers rushed to the scene, and one of the first ones there exchanged fire, "in all likelihood, (saving) many lives," according to the police chief."

    So YES, more guns DID save people`s lives. For sure the two wounded firefighters would have been killed too, plus others who would have arrived, if not for the Police SHOOTING BACK.

    This guy was convicted of First Degree Murder! But he was out, walking around, free as a bird... Thanks to "liberals"...
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    xelous Male 18-29
    2513 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 8:43 pm
    He was not legally allowed to own any firearms as a felon. So... that law worked out great didn`t it.
    More gun laws will do absolutely nothing to stop this sort of thing, it will actually inhibit responsible gun owners from taking action against crazy a-holes like this
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    synaw Male 18-29
    58 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    @5cats
    Fort hood was a military base
    VT has its own police unit
    Columbine had security guards
    nuff said
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    BBJellyFish Male 18-29
    549 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 9:18 pm
    CONSPIRACY! O.o
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    BBJellyFish Male 18-29
    549 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    People get shot every day. Just cause it`s on the news doesn`t mean that all of a sudden people are getting shot. PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS GETTING SHOT! They`re just on TV now. Now take you`re anti-gun bullpoo somewhere else ya damn commie!
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3907 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    I`m sure someone already brought this up, but guess what? The guy`s a convicted felon, did 17 years for killing his own f*cking grandmother. Those convicted of felonies in NY State are not allowed to own firearms therefore the weapons he had were illegal. You can take your "We clearly need more guns to stop this" caption and stick it right up your a$$.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    December 24, 2012 at 9:23 pm
    They guy was convicted felon. It was already illegal for him to possess a firearm of any kind. What do you want to do, make it SUPER-DOUBLE-SECRET ILLEGAL for felons to have firearms?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14544 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 3:04 am
    "They guy was convicted felon. It was already illegal for him to possess a firearm of any kind. What do you want to do, make it SUPER-DOUBLE-SECRET ILLEGAL for felons to have firearms?"

    No, ban them all from the USA. If I wanted to get a firearm, I`d have to go to another country to get one.

    If the stats have shown us nothing else, it`s that Americans as a nation can`t be trusted with firearms.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 5:21 am
    How do you propose that`s done Drac? There are 200 million guns here. That`s just the ones we know about. That does not include the ones that criminals already have that are not registered.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 5:22 am
    I`ve said it once, and so have a lot of other people.

    If you take guns away, then only criminals will have guns. Period. Point blank. No other way around it.
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    ledgehead Male 40-49
    633 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 6:32 am
    I wake up every morning, kiss the ground and thank the lord I do not live in the great US of A!

    You can keep all your guns and freedom of free speech and criminals and .....
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    ledgehead Male 40-49
    633 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 6:37 am
    I know, arm the teachers and fire fighters. Oh hell give everyone guns...wait they already do!
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    johnkelley Male 18-29
    59 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 6:37 am
    HA! The caption contradicts itself! New York has some of the strictest gun laws in the U.S.! More guns in the right hands is a good thing. The lunatic shooter already killed his Grandmother and was a Felon, so it was illegal for him to obtain a weapon, as well. The Police showed up and exchanged fire with the suspect, and the article states, "possibly saving many lives". If an armed person was there before that cop, the same results would have been likely. Thank God the cops showed up in time, this time, but what if they couldn`t?
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    Fehz Male 30-39
    580 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 7:04 am
    " As a convicted felon, Spengler was not allowed to legally possess weapons, but he had "several different types of weapons" Monday, the police chief said."

    Clearly, gun control would have helped here. It`s not like anyone smuggles guns into the US, right? Right?
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    Shelworth Male 50-59
    384 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 8:00 am
    Oh why, oh why didn`t they ban hammers after he claimed his first victim?
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4887 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 8:28 am
    Fehz Ohh and guess why is so easy for people to get "illegal" weapons? Cause in your country is easier to find a gun on the ground than a quarter of dollar in the street.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4887 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 8:30 am
    Shelworth ohh cool let`s use guns like hammers,maybe better if loaded, cause for you they are the same.
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    dubstepdubst Male 18-29
    63 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 5:44 pm

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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    December 25, 2012 at 9:54 pm
    No, ban them all from the USA. If I wanted to get a firearm, I`d have to go to another country to get one.
    Yeah, that`s worked so well with drugs. Kids have to drive all the way to Mexico to buy pot now.
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    chance13 Male 40-49
    219 posts
    December 26, 2012 at 3:40 am
    I love how all these stories keep popping up about people that have illegal firearms and then the Europeans scream out "Gun control!"...um...they have the guns illegally...would gun control matter? Not at all...they have the guns illegally.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 26, 2012 at 5:37 am
    If the stats have shown us nothing else, it`s that Americans as a nation can`t be trusted with firearms.

    Said the twit from the continent that started both world wars.


    The gun was ILLEGAL how will more laws help against people who refuse to obey them?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 26, 2012 at 5:42 am
    I`m telling you, controlling the sale of matches is the key. Wait, you don`t have anything in The Constitution about the right to bear fire, do you?

    I`m sure the UK`s working on that along with the ban of sharp objects(well more so.) Only aproved sporks will be legal to use with a proper license.
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    Finker Male 40-49
    505 posts
    December 28, 2012 at 4:09 am
    More guns around, easier to get a gun. Not sure what is so hard to get about greater gun controls.

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