This Was Gangnam Style Psy In 2004 [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 4 years ago

Looks like it"s safe to say he hated America then. Full story in the Credits...
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Male 15,832
[quote]though I get your overall point I guess, I find that specific one irrelevant.[/quote]
Well, you`re young, and you probably had a crap unionized public school education, so let me explain. Had the US not entered WW II, there was no one who could stop Japan from conquering and colonizing the entire western Pacific Rim including Australia. They would have been occupied, subjugated, and assimilated. By now, very few people under age 60 would even be able to speak English.

Is that relevant enough for you?
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Male 907
I see most IABers hate America too. South Korea can take care itself. So can Europe. Let`s stop subsidizing their defense with American service people. They don`t appreciate it.
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Male 10,845
[quote]I didn`t participate in the corrupt joke of a political system that places these liars and warmongers in positions of power where they get to start wars that have no popular support, even though those that start them claim to be representing the public.[/quote]

If you voted then, unfortunately, yes YOU did! If you didn`t vote for Blair then there`s no guilt. Furthermore voting for someone based on a particular platform is no guarantee they`ll stick to it. Hence Bush`s "compassionate conservatism" and Obama`s "promise" to keep us out of further engagements. Both similiar promises both of them broken irrespective of political party.
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Male 519
@paddy215 Its about certain people, yes, but also their mothers, daughters and families dying a slow and painful death. Saying you disagree with torture is one thing. Saying you want to torture to death the families of someone who committed torture is the exact opposite. It actually says you support torture, just for your own purpose and satisfaction. He`s not saying torture is wrong, he`s saying torture of innocents is an acceptable means of revenge.

And also, you can`t sing the song in a concert and then say you disagree with its meaning. It not being his song is just another verification of his belief in its message.
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Male 83
Glad to see money turned PSY into america`s bitch! haha
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Male 14,330
@paddy215

If those "evil" americans were never there do you think this tool would`ve ever been able to do what he does in a unified communist Korea? He`d be in a work camp.
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Male 2,143
And I STILL don`t like what Bush`s America was back then.
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Male 14,330
[quote]Did you participate in the corrupt election that gave them power? Then you are to blame, not just them.[/quote]

Following your logic MacThunderKunt you`re also to blame. Your country participated or do you think you accomplished something by not voting over there?
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Male 1,678
First of all, these lyrics are specifically about certain people in the US army who were committing horrible acts of torture. Being against torture is not anti-American and disagreeing with the Iraqi war does not necessarily mean that you disagree with every war the US has ever been involved in, so bringing up the Korean war or WW2 is irrelevant . Secondly, the song is by a Korean metal group, not Psy, this is actually stated in the article for anyone literate enough to read the full story instead of a few words written on top of a picture.
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Female 2,602
[quote] Your stupidity is astonishing! Your country also participated in those wars! So you`re to blame too.[/quote]

I`m afraid not. I didn`t participate in the corrupt joke of a political system that places these liars and warmongers in positions of power where they get to start wars that have no popular support, even though those that start them claim to be representing the public.

Also, I`m going to have to cite ad hominem tu quoque. Again. It`s fast becoming the equivalent of Godwins Law for a substantial number of the dumber Americans on this site. As I`ve said before and will say again as many times as I need to: other countries doing `X` doesn`t make it OK for America to do the same. You just sound dumber and dumber each time you try to negate criticism of America by trotting out that tired , pathetic, risible argument each time someone criticises your country and its actions.
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Male 14,330
@MacGuffin

Your stupidity is astonishing! Your country also participated in those wars! So you`re to blame too.

@marcus2

Newsflash everyone hates the UK too!


This guys a f**king moron he`d be getting tortured or starved to death if the US didn`t protect his country from N. Korea.
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Male 677
News Flash, America, everyone hates you.
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Female 1,324
@OldOllie
I do, and though I get your overall point I guess, I find that specific one irrelevant.
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Male 3,909
@OldOllie - You`re not. Reading Sun Tzu`s "The Art of War" during bowel movements and not having any military experience means your "opinions & strategies" are about as useful as a football bat to me. The last Republican president with military experience was George HW Bush. (Dubya doesn`t count for obvious reasons because he was a total f*ck up) For the record, while I personally feel that in order to be qualified to run for president military service should be mandatory, I`m sure that would never happen. Their Joint Chiefs of Staff are the ones who communicate with the POtUS to make strategic decisions but when you have a f*cking retard like Dubya sitting in the Oval Office that doesn`t really help.

When we heard we were going into Iraq EVERYONE in my unit, from the boots fresh out of SOI, up to our CO were in utter disbelief. Getting involved in a two front war usually isn`t a very smart move. I`m sure you can think of some examples.
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Male 3,310
Hey! He knows where paychecks come from now. You have to suck some USA prong to go global. He knows his place.
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Male 15,832
[quote]Deny you wage war on many countries without real provocation and kill, maim and torture many people (including women and children) in the process. Go on, deny it.[/quote]
Hey, emmettyville, do you speak Japanese? No? You`re welcome.
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Male 15,832
[quote] If you didn`t see it with your own eyes you have no room to talk.[/quote]
Horse$#|+! If only veterans were allowed to have a say in how thing are run, the Democrat party would be extinct. Vets support Republicans by better 2:1, and the last Democrat president with military experience was Jimmy F***ing Carter.

You`re certainly entitled to your opinion as to the strategies used in the two wars, but don`t tell me I`m not.
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Male 15,832
[quote]Ollie, yeah, we get it. Saddam was an a$$hole. So are many, many other dictators around the world, but we`re not illegally invading them, are we?[/quote]
Davy, that`s just another Democrat lie. The invasion was not in any way, shape, or form "illegal."

At the end of the first Gulf War, Saddam signed a cease-fire agreement that required him to give up his WMD and cooperate FULLY with international weapons inspectors. He flagrantly violated the terms of that cease-fire agreement, so we were LEGALLY justified in RESUMING the hostilities.

Besides, if it actually were illegal, why did nearly ALL of the congressional Democrats vote to authorize the use of force, and why did they all support the war up until they saw a cynical political advantage in opposing it?
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Male 646
Gerry, Don`t give the europeans all the credit, we were in there as well (the document took a while to download.

We even trained the Iraqi military in chemical warfare in the 60`s, setting the basis for Saddam`s chemical corp.

We didn`t give them the complete bomb, but we sure as hell helped them every other way. It`s like, if you and a few of your friends give a convicted all the pieces of a gun, and some bullets, and then act surprised when he puts it all together and robs a bank, and then points the gun at you... then you shoot him
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Male 3,407
does this really matter? it was damn near a decade ago. besides, after all is said and done, wasnt the iraq "war" a mistake?
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Male 3,909
@davymid - Thanks, that`s exactly what I was going to rip OldOllie on. If you didn`t see it with your own eyes you have no room to talk.

I won`t argue that Saddam was an evil motherf*cker and needed to go. I witnessed first hand what he did to that country and the people. Most of the Iraqis didn`t even want to fight us when we got there, the majority of intel collected from dead insurgents after firefights told us that. The only reason they were loyal to Saddam was out of fear that they and their families would be executed. Personally, the first time I searched a dead body I pulled a Syrian passport out of the guys pocket along with a bottle of what turned out to be methamphetamine pills. We constantly came across abandoned Iraqi army positions where they ditched their weapons & uniforms and tried to blend in with the general public. My problem isn`t that we went there, it`s with the timing. We should have been focusing solely on Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
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Female 2,228
emmetyville, as soon as you can deny you weren`t behind us, helping us along the whole way (remember the "Coalition of the Willing?) This is what happens when we live in world where when we say "Jump" you say "How high?"
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Male 10,845
[quote]Did you participate in the corrupt election that gave them power? Then you are to blame, not just them.[/quote]

First of all how was the election "corrupt" as you put it?
Secondly Bush Jr promised restraint as opposed to Clinton`s interventions in Kosovo and Serbia.

So, just how "responsible" are voters here? With that in mind you Britons should hold just as much responsibility for Tony Blair`s decision to come along for the ride.
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Female 4,349
Deny you wage war on many countries without real provocation and kill, maim and torture many people (including women and children) in the process. Go on, deny it.
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Female 2,674
"Thanks for personally bringing Gangnam Style to America, even after talking poo about us."

Gangnam Style was brought to America by Americans. Psy made the song mostly for Koreans because Koreans are the main consumers of Korean music. Like any other person, he`s going to profit off his unexpected success elsewhere. Hating our wars and our military presence in other countries doesn`t mean you hate American citizens though. I pretty much agree with him and I`m an American. Only thing I disagree with about the song (which isn`t Psy`s song) is killing family members and such. But if you`re against that, you have to be against our military /too/, because our military has no problems with killing family members of "the enemies" whether or not their actual target is nearby.
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Male 28
Thanks for personally bringing Gangnam Style to America, even after talking poo about us.
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Female 2,228
I understand the S. Koreans are all sentimental about reunification and such, but the fact still remains if we weren`t there Psy wouldn`t be a pop star today. He`d be living in that prehistoric, devoid of city lights (from space) section that has made singing, laughing, and smiling illegal.

The shortsightedness astounds.
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Female 2,602
>>>That being said, I wonder what he thinks of those same Yankees who remain camped out there at the 38th parallel across from the DMZ lo these past 60 yrs.<<<


Wonder no longer: "at a concert in 2002 protesting against the US military presence in South Korea, the singer smashed a model of a US tank on stage".
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Female 2,228
Torture is still something that makes me heartsick to this day.

That being said, I wonder what he thinks of those same Yankees who remain camped out there at the 38th parallel across from the DMZ lo these past 60 yrs.
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Male 573
At least I can say I hated Gangnam Style before it was cool.
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Male 37,888

klaxor, [quote]"Never mind that we helped supply Iraq with the tech and materials to create those chemical weapons." [/quote]
You must be confusing the US with France & Germany.
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Male 1,586
Oh how piles of American money will quickly change his mind. Enjoy, you one hit wonder douche.
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Female 2,602
[quote]"We" didn`t create the disaster in Iraq/Afghanistan. Cheney & Dubya created that disaster.[/quote]

Did you participate in the corrupt election that gave them power? Then you are to blame, not just them.
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Female 2,602
I agree he`s a turd. Not for what he said in 2004 about America (fair comment if you ask me), but because he appears to base his publicly-expressed views on what he thinks will be popular moment to moment.
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Male 7,123
I`m sure Amerians will take his apology in the spirit in which it was meant. I look forward to his US tour.
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Male 312
I didn`t need any more reasons to hate that turd after his lame song took over the world.
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Male 4,287
Negrodamus, Why is President Bush so sure Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?

Because he has the receipt.
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Male 4,287
Oh the humanity, I mean the false outrage. I love how the media can lead people around like sheep.
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Male 17,512
Suuuuuurrrrrrre he`s sorry. Now that he`s making millions of dollars of his one-hit meme. It`s amazing how money changes peoples politics.
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Male 646
"This is just bull$#!+ Democrat slander. It never happened."

- I`m not saying that the got "knew" what was going to happen when they took Iraq off the List of State Sponsored Terrorists, thereby allowing american chemical companies to sell to Iraq (Reagan tended to turn a blind eye to these things i.e the Contras), but that doesn`t really erase our involvement in the matter.

Regardless, you can`t deny that Saddam was "the good guy" and helped him as much as we could, until he threatened to increase the price of oil, at which point he became the bad guy, not after it was clear that he was using chemical weapons.
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Male 700
"The song is not actually Psy’s. It’s by a South Korean metal band called N.EX.T" so STFU you kidnapping, torturing mothe-r drat-ers!
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Male 3,431
Gangnam Style Sucks.

It sucked before I knew anything about his past iniquities, and it sucks now.

As to his ideology, I agree with the first aspect of his sentiment. We should absolutely not be in the business of torturing people. Not now. Not ever.

If they are enemy combatants, then let them die on the battle field. If they surrender, then imprison them, but treat them civilly and with respect and if they behave, set them free once hostilities have ceased. If they don`t behave, give them a quick death.

The second half of his rant I take exception to, but I am sure he doesn`t give a damn.
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Male 423
Herp a derp
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Male 12,138
Ollie, yeah, we get it. Saddam was an a$$hole. So are many, many other dictators around the world, but we`re not illegally invading them, are we? The western world was sold a lie that Saddam had WMDs ready to strike us (in the west) at any moment. As it turns out, he didn`t have f*ck all, like the rest of the world was trying to tell us. And yes, my country (the UK) was to blame also, for going along with the bullsh*t.

p.s. Whodat`s a veteran, with his own opinions having experienced what he`s experienced. I have respect for that. For you, less.
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Male 15,832
[quote]- Never mind that we helped supply Iraq with the tech and materials to create those chemical weapons.[/quote]
This is just bull$#!+ Democrat slander. It never happened.
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Female 241
Exile him to North Korea.
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Male 12,138
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Male 646
"Right, and Saddam had nothing to do with it. He was just an innocent victim. Never mind that he used mustard gas and nerve gas on the Iranians and the Iraqi Kurds."

- Never mind that we helped supply Iraq with the tech and materials to create those chemical weapons.
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Male 37,888

He`s talking about Haliburton, right?
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Male 15,832
[quote]"We" didn`t create the disaster in Iraq/Afghanistan. Cheney & Dubya created that disaster.[/quote]
Right, and Saddam had nothing to do with it. He was just an innocent victim. Never mind that he used mustard gas and nerve gas on the Iranians and the Iraqi Kurds. And never mind that he refused to abide by the terms for ending the Gulf War. And never mind that he threw out the UN weapons inspectors. And never mind that he tortured children in front of their parents and had rape rooms in his prisons. And never mind that his two sons ran around murdering people at random just for fun. And never mind that he took ALL the Oil-for-Food money and spent it on palaces while the Iraqi people starved. And never mind that nearly every single Democrat in the House and Senate voted to authorize the use of force before they saw a political advantage in stabbing our troops in the back.

whodat, how do you manage to convince yourself of so much crap that just isn`t true
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Male 15,832
Typical liberal f***tard entertainer. What`s the big deal? We have celebs here who hate America just as much as he does -- Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Morgan Freeman, Harry Belefonte, Barack Obama, -- I could go on...
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Male 3,909
"We" didn`t create the disaster in Iraq/Afghanistan. Cheney & Dubya created that disaster.
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Male 14,774
To be fair, the number of people he describes is probably less than the total number of innocent victims America killed hunting `Al Qaeda`
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Male 10,845
You expect people around the world to NOT react negatively to the disaster we caused in Iraq and Afghanistan?
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Male 2,841
u guyz are just misinterpreeteting it
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Male 2,631
You mean there are folks who don`t like Americans? Golly, we`re so warm and fuzzy...
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Female 2,549
But if you say this while doing a pony it`s still funny!
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Male 3,909
This is great because just the other day I was commenting on another post about that stoopid f*cking song saying he`d be forgotten soon. Hopefully this will help to speed up that process.
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Male 334
actually, even if these were his words, kill those yankee`s that torture and those that ordered them tortured.

Seems a Lomg way from all americans, no? i mean, did every american aplaude the torture? or order it? hell, most i know are really disgruntled about it even happening.

yeah, i hate peeps that think their life is worth more then that of any other.. well, hate is a strong word, dislike is better.. but to claim that all of us are the same cause some of us misbehave, .. long live polarizaton ,, once again..


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Male 250
read the article lmao. he didnt write this, just participated in the performance.
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Male 2,143
I didn`t like Bush`s America either...
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Male 19,859
Link: This Was Gangnam Style Psy In 2004 [Pic] [Rate Link] - Looks like it`s safe to say he hated America then. Full story in the Credits...
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