Obama Cries During Speech On Ct. School Shooting

Submitted by: fancylad 4 years ago in

Depressing.
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Male 14,331
[quote]This has not happened in the UK and it won`t, because 19 year old boys can`t walk into drating Walmart and guy a deadly automatic weapon. [/quote]

He didn`t get them that way he STOLE them. Imagine if the anti gun heads looked at laws before calling for more.
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Female 2,602
He should save his tears for the women and children that America`s drones are killing in Pakistan`s Waziristan region every week. Selective sentimentality of this kind from butchers like Obama makes me ashamed to be a human being.
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Female 474
I don`t support some of the decisions he`s made, and I honestly believe that somewhere out there a better President exists and never ran for office. But his speech concerning this tragedy was so sincere, so well said, and so moving, I couldn`t help but cry just watching him deliver it. This was a moment of humanity rarely seen in politics.
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Male 146
Way to show presidential leadership, cry baby. Grow some balls, dude. It`s not about you and Michelle and your daughters of privilege.
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Female 3,726
This is sincere:
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Male 512
Conservative comment that you hear often: Guns are a right so that we can kill people that take away all of our rights.

Conservative comments that you rarely, if not ever, hear: We`ve never stopped the government from forcing us to go to school, be put in jail, pay taxes, use taxes to keep the elderly from ending up on the streets or rely on the SCOTUS to install GW Bush as president.

Things we also hear: Reagan put the mentally insane out in the streets!
The reality: Reagan, the republicans and democrats told liberals to go screw and put the mentally disabled and the criminally insane on the streets and blamed the liberals. How? By inventing a non-existent group. Americans.
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Male 5,014
"I`ve never been more convinced that conservatives are vile anti-American pieces of shyte as i have now that I`ve read this thread."

Actually the most partisan conservative on this site stayed out of it. Don`t lump everyone into a category. That is what is keeping the partisan BS alive. We are not conservative or liberal we are just people.
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Female 349
@FoolsPrussia- You may be right that he`s not just phoning it in. I can be pretty skeptical. I just want all of the violence to stop, and he`s promoting it, so I guess I just don`t trust it. I hardly think that he can claim ignorance for his actions. All it would take is a quick google search to know the violence happening because of his wars. But like I said; You may be right. I don`t know everything.
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Male 3,369
I`ve never been more convinced that conservatives are vile anti-American pieces of shyte as i have now that I`ve read this thread.
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Male 15,262
Marksman wins most fcked up comment in the most fcked up thread about today`s most fcked up topic, beating out even Old Ollie et al.`s misplaced vile vitriol.
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Male 3,445
@Misfit_Mutt

I think it was sincere. Politicians still have feelings. If most Americans, including Obama, saw the innocent people being killed in drone strikes as more than just dots on a screen, I think they would realize that it`s wrong. The business of war involves killing from a distance. That makes it easier for people to swallow.
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Male 535
Bottom line - there are 20 or so stacks of Christmas presents that won`t be opened next week & you`re all a bunch of non-nice individuals for making it a left-wing/right bullpoo political statement...
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Female 349
Also, you do not cry from the outside corner of your eye.
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Female 349
@FoolsPrussia- He`s a politician, acting is one of their many skills.
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Male 3,445
@Misfitt-Mutt:

I found his response incredibly sincere and heartfelt, but I had the same reaction about the drone strikes.
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Female 349
Video summary: He touched his eyes couple of times, while talking about how horrible it was people died.

-WHY DOESN`T HE FEEL BAD ABOUT CHILDREN DYING BECAUSE OF DRONE STRIKES?
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Male 5,620
"Way to go America, how are the gun laws working out for y`all. F*cknuts."

"why didn`t "god" bless them before they were shot?"

However, there are other comments that are equally as disgusting. You people are just disturbed. Seriously? Go reflect... turn off your damn tv and computer and phone.. and just go reflect. Some of you have such hangups on certain issues that you make everything about that issue. Gun control? Religious debates? I can`t process how this event doesn`t register to you people as a horrid event that shouldn`t be politicized or added to a religious debate. I feel somewhat sickened like markust123. I`m out.
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Male 5,620
"I have to get off this site for a bit you make me sick to my stomach OldOllie. You really are a horrible person."

Agreed.
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Male 50
And by mean person, I mean a terrifically offensive word for female genitalia.
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Male 50
Only in America would people come up with the drating ABSURD solution that you should arm primary/elementary school teachers with concealed weapons. drating joke.

The whole country is INFESTED with easy to obtain guns due to your DIABOLICAL constitutional right for any person to own a gun. Its pathetic.

This has not happened in the UK and it won`t, because 19 year old boys can`t walk into drating Walmart and guy a deadly automatic weapon.

Wake up!!! drating WAKE UP!!! To all those in favour of keeping your gun laws as they are in light of this latest disgusting, blood curdling, easily avoidable tragedy - you are mean personS!! No offence.
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Male 1,243
sad those children died. What`s even sadder is that it`s bound to happen again, because the nation isn`t willing to change. It`s leaders love money and have an unhealthy desire for it, and it`s all through the leadership, and the media. They are so drunk on the love for money, and don`t want it to stop, that you know either this is going to happen again, or the nation will be humbled greatly
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Male 15,262
Like him or hate him, he speaks for the nation.
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Male 3,908
Nope, nice try slick, I don`t have an agenda. I`m pointing out that fact that he`s using a tragedy (which is a more pressing issue to worry about, as you stated) to push his bullsh*t views of religion into gov`t and the public school system where, according to the Constitution, it does not belong.
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Female 3,726
""that his brother has a history of mental health issues and""

Enough said! This is not a gun control issue, it`s a mental health reform issue!!! I`m as liberal as they come BUT I also have common sense!

More to the story
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Male 41
"He sounds like one of those Westboro Baptist f*cktards saying, These children are dead because god is mad that prayer isn`t allowed in school."

And in the very next line -
"Do you want to know why god wasn`t there to protect those children and their families? Because he doesn`t exist, that`s why."

Sort of ironic isn`t it? Same bullpoo, different agenda. Who gives a poo about what you choose to follow, aren`t there more pressing issues? I don`t know, like a tragedy?
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Male 3,908
My point is that a politician, who also happens to be an ordained minister (which I didn`t know about but that doesn`t matter) is trying to use a school shooting as political leverage to say prayer should be allowed in PUBLIC schools. That`s your typical right-wing christian bullsh*t that no one wants to hear and is inappropriate to say. He sounds like one of those Westboro Baptist f*cktards saying, "These children are dead because god is mad that prayer isn`t allowed in school." Do you want to know why god wasn`t there to protect those children and their families? Because he doesn`t exist, that`s why.
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Male 41
@Marksman Not sure if being racist...or being sincere.

I don`t want to live on this planet anymore.
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Male 15,832
[quote]Here`s the kind of sh*t they`re talking about over on the Faux News[/quote]
whodat, I`m not sure I get your point here. Mike Huckabee is an ordained minister. Are you saying that ministers shouldn`t be allowed to speak about God, or that they just shouldn`t be allowed to speak at all?
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Male 40,751
Obama speaks out when the "polls" tell him it`s expedient to do so...
Imagine a President with no spine at all...
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Male 154
Will Ashi......are you a monkey?
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Male 41
@Marksman That was a stupid thing to say, can you honestly not think of something at least witty to bring to the table?

Side note - Not a fan of Obama for political reasons, but this is one of the few times that I appreciate his sincerity. Such a great tragedy for the United States.
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Male 154
I did not know that monkeys had tear glands.
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Female 1,743
Stop making assumptions about my views on gun control, you twit.

Now I am done talking to you.
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Male 15,832
[quote]arming teachers to the teeth couldn`t have prevented.[/quote]
There`s where you`re just plain wrong. Armed teachers most likely would have prevented this from happening in the first place, or if not, they could have GREATLY reduced the body count. It`s been done before when armed citizens have stopped these mass murders before or soon after they start.

You`re just lying to yourself to assuage your guilt. You can`t bring yourself to be honest and admit that the gun control policies you support have led to this. These shootings have happened before, and they will continue to happen again and again and again until we finally abolish these gun-free deathtraps once and for all.
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Male 15,832
[quote]"So, when, exactly, IS the time to talk about this?"

How about after they have removed the little bodies from the school? [/quote]
Well, tell that to your liberal buddies who started calling for more gun control legislation before the little bodies were even cold.
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Female 1,743
OldOllie...

Twenty kindergarteners...rather, BABIES were shot dead by a mentally ill man and you want to sit here and bitch about liberals? drat you, old man. Unplug your drating computer and think about what truly matters.

There are twenty bloodied bodies that never did harm to anyone. They never had the mental capacity to understand what was happening to them. Their parents, so close to Christmas, have to now bury a child they barely had the opportunity to get to know. Their futures were STOLEN from them by one man who was so far gone that even stricter gun laws, or arming teachers to the teeth couldn`t have prevented.
In addition, the gunman has scarred emotionally and physically many other children who had to witness this heinous crime. Those who are still developing mentally and are vulnerable. It`s so unfair, and to sit here and listen to you blame Obama and liberals for one man`s action...

Frankly, it`s just insulting.
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Male 15,832
[quote]find out who the guard is, take them out first, continue your spree. [/quote]
Having only one armed guard in a school is just plain stupid. Anyone could just walk up to him and blow his head off before he even realized what was happening.

However, if the teachers and staff have concealed weapons, the shooter doesn`t know who the "guard" is. The entire faculty and staff are potential "guards," and the would-be shooter has no idea which ones are armed. With odds like that, he won`t even start, because there is a high probability that he will be shot before he can complete his plan.

Why are you worried about teachers going nuts but not cops? Cops are under MUCH higher stress, but somehow they don`t freak out and commit mass murder. Besides, if a teacher goes crazy, what`s to stop him/her from breaking the rules and bringing a gun to school anyway, especially when NO ONE CAN SHOOT BACK!!!

Remember, THIS shooter broke the rules.
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Male 15,832
[quote]I have to get off this site for a bit you make me sick to my stomach OldOllie. You really are a horrible person.[/quote]
How does that make me a horrible person? All I`ve done is make your stomach match your mind.
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Male 7,830
oldollie, there is a far difference between a couple of well trained police officers in a building with a gun a piece between them. There are upwards of 50-60 teachers and staff in any given school. If only half of them carry, that is 25-30 firearms in a building of a few hundred kids.

If you have one person carry, and guard the school. Okay, there is little chance that firearm will fall in to the hands of the children, but that is just one small obstacle the next shooter will have to over come; find out who the guard is, take them out first, continue your spree.

They only way to fix this is to fix people. This really comes down to medical care, and making sure those who need the psychiatric help have it readily available, and that others are trained to recognize when someone needs that kind of help.

I am not a "less guns" person, but I am also far from a "more guns" person.
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Male 5,014
I have to get off this site for a bit you make me sick to my stomach OldOllie. You really are a horrible person.
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Male 5,014
"So, when, exactly, IS the time to talk about this?"

How about after they have removed the little bodies from the school?
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Male 15,832
[quote]oldollie, and when the teachers or staff carry those guns and one of them gets emotionally compromised and shoots someone, or one of the children gets a hold of one of their firearms and shoots someone [possibly accidentally] who will you blame for it.

And it would happen. Probably within the first couple of months.[/quote]
In that case, I guess we shouldn`t allow police to enter the schools with their guns, either, since they all undergo the exact same background checks as public school teachers and staff. In fact, we shouldn`t allow police to enter malls, theaters, restaurants, or for that matter, any place with more than 2 people present since sooner or later one of them will certainly go insane and start shooting everybody.
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Male 15,832
[quote]It`s easy to tell how good or bad a person is by the way they react to the senseless murder of innocent children.[/quote]
Yeah, when innocent children are slaughtered as a result of liberal stupidity and arrogance, I tend to get a bit peeved. Does it show?

At any rate, at least it`s good that you are able to take this so calmly. After all, what kind of person would you be if it actually caused you any bother?
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Female 1,743
He`d blame Obama for allowing guns in the classroom.

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Male 7,830
oldollie, and when the teachers or staff carry those guns and one of them gets emotionally compromised and shoots someone, or one of the children gets a hold of one of their firearms and shoots someone [possibly accidentally] who will you blame for it.

And it would happen. Probably within the first couple of months.
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Female 1,743
Wow at the ignoramus talking about planned parenthood.

If I could personally backhand that idiot, I would.
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Male 1,292
get to the gun control for drat sakes
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Male 3,908
Here`s the kind of sh*t they`re talking about over on the Faux News Facebook page currently. I took this screenshot at 9pm EST. These people are nucking futs!!!
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Male 633
I know I`m talking bullcrap first post.

All over the world sh*t like this can happen.
April 9 2011, Alphen aan den Rijn, Netherlands, mall shooting, 6 dead, 16 injured. Septembre 4 2009 school shooting, Winnenden Germany, 16 dead, 11 injured. Etc, etc, etc, etc...
Big news when it happens here.
It just happens a lot more in the usa for some reason.
Basically it`s just another news story. Exept this time the president has a speach.
Which is written. Partially comes from his heart. He looks way to professional(imho).
These are children ffs.
I`m not hating on you usa. I`m just wondering why does it happen so many times more in the usa then the rest of the (civilised) world?
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Male 1,243
Way to go America, how are the gun laws working out for y`all. F*cknuts.
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Male 5,014
F*ck you again. You are one of the worst excuses for a human I have ever encountered. It`s easy to tell how good or bad a person is by the way they react to the senseless murder of innocent children.
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Male 15,832
[quote]F*ck you OldOllie. This is not the time.[/quote]
I understand where you`re coming from, markust. If I advocated the policies that led to this, I wouldn`t want to talk about it either.

So, when, exactly, IS the time to talk about this? After yet another multiple-victim shooting in yet another gun-free slaughterhouse? You know there will be another, and another...
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Male 15,832
@Keegan31 [quote]You support 8 year-olds bringing guns to school?[/quote]
No, you stupid twat. The adult teachers and staff should be allowed to carry concealed weapons. When the first shot was fired, they could have responded and saved many lives.
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Male 4,891

Maybe if all you pussies keep complaining on IAB about the 2nd amendment, everyone will suddenly change their mind.

Dumbfudgeinidiots.
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Male 633
drat you all! Second amendment rights yo!

Thumbs up for living in 1791.
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Male 1,558
why didn`t "god" bless them before they were shot?
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Male 3,462
Americans think its a divine right to own guns because of a bunch of old rich slave raping bastards put it into the constitution...

Man wrote the constitution, man can change the constitution..

Criminals and crazy people get guns easy because EVERYONE can get guns easy... its only common sense that a place awash with weapons will be subjected to this sort of nonsense.
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Male 109
this has happened way too many times in the states.

if anyone can be a terrorist in america, everyone should be an undercover police. and if guns are so available, why not train one person in each public building to shoot down these psychos? as soon as smn enters some school shooting, that person would be in charge of putting the killer down.
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Female 2,228
Schooner I hear you loud and clear, message received, Down Under. I agree.

I`m also so very, very existentially tired of hearing the same damn story replayed over and over again in our headlines.

And when we hear the outlandish cries that only *more* guns would`ve solved this, that only *more* firearms would`ve been the panacea through a system of "chalk and awe"...well the only logical response to that is, "You`re absophuckinglutely nuts."
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Male 24
Just one more thing. We live in a country designed to kill us (even the cute animals are deadly). We get by just fine without guns.
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Male 24
I know i`m wasting my breath but I think it`s time to tighten up your gun control America. I know the majority of you are good sane people but there are too many among you (one is too many) who can`t handle the responsibility. In our country one violent crime is front page news, in yours a day without one is. You dont find this strange/fundamentally wrong? Fair enough keep your single shot rifles for hunting but you can not argue that automatic rifles and semi-automatic pistols are legitimate hunting weapons. And the self defence argument is a joke. An Australian folk singer sums it up perfectly. "I learnt long ago while i was still young
Like the lizard that spits and sticks out its tongue
That the way to get shot is to carry a gun".
Time to sacrifice what shouldn`t be considered a civil liberty anyway. We all make sacrifices for the greater good. It`s called the social contract. If it saves one life it`s worth it.
Rant finished.
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Female 231
Thank you rickwhite, that`s what I`ve been trying to say.
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Male 228
@maxxim

So the guy who shot himself would have been afraid of... being shot? Your logic is flawed.
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Male 3,445
"Psychos are scared of retribution, even the possibility of armed resistance stops them cold."

He killed himself. He killed himself. He killed himself. What part of that makes you think he was afraid of armed resistance?
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Male 5,014
I don`t understand how anyone who hears this story today could not shed a tear for those innocent children.
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Male 228
@oldollie

Somehow relaxed or nonexistent gun-control laws would have made an elementary school shooting more difficult to pull off? How? You support 8 year-olds bringing guns to school?
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Male 125
Remember children, all mass shootings happen where there AREN`T guns.
Psychos are scared of retribution, even the possibility of armed resistance stops them cold.
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Male 5,014
F*ck you OldOllie. This is not the time.
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Male 15,832
[quote]Wow, OldOllie. You are a partisan piece of work.[/quote]
Party has nothing to do with it. I`d say the same thing about anyone who forces us to leave children defenseless against mass killers.
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Male 151
Wow.

SOME of you are such a-sholes.



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Male 11,739
[quote]Wow, OldOllie. You are a partisan piece of work.[/quote]

If by work you mean s h it, then you are correct.

SmagBoy nailed it, people would find a reason to bitch about Obama no matter what he did. Of course those are the sheeple that intelligent people ignore.
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Male 14,331
No good will come from this.
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Male 1,048
Indeed drawman61. Americans have issues by the dozens.
and wtf is wrong with all of you ragging on fancy? It`s mistyping a word for drats sake. The man creates a site and keeps you and I from boredoms boring grasp most days. and you poo on him constantly. I would hate to see how you people are with those who are close to you. You lot sound like if you ate drating alphabits you would eat them in alphabetical order. Spare the grammar nazi poo for a different day you anal insensitive pricks.
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Male 303
@Oldollie: You sicken me. You really do.

What kind of world do you want where a drating kindergarten teacher needs to take a gun to work you sick drating drat/!!!!!
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Male 7,774
I like this guy. It`s not his fault he rules over the most psychotic nation on the planet.
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Male 4,431
Yeah, if he didn`t address this, the same ol` folks would be on here giving him crap. Now that he has, he`d getting crap. Whatever. It`s his job. It`s what presidents do. No way I`d want that job. I would have slapped someone by now.
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Male 10,338
He never cried.

Who cares anyway. This is a horrible day.
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Female 1,743
Wow, OldOllie. You are a partisan piece of work.
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Male 15,832
He should cry. As a gun-control advocate, it`s partly his fault.
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Male 3,445
"A press conferance by the POTUS gave the guy the notoriety he wanted."

You have to be kidding me. People are distraught over this, and it`s part of his job to address the issue.
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Male 4,891

Fancylad treats the English language, like the shooter treats school children.
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Female 3,726
*conference*

And what`s wrong with President Obama giving a press conference?? Damned if he do, damned if he don`t. What else the drat is new?
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Male 11,739
I didn`t even have to look beyond the title to know which f*cktard posted it. THAT is depressing.
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Male 657
After I became a parent one of the things I was surprised by was not the protectiveness I felt for my own child, but how protective I felt of all children.

I cried also.
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Female 3,726
Okay, most times I defend you Fancy.

*cries*

*Connecticut*

And it`s not depressing, it`s called empathy and compassion. If this situation didn`t make you stop and think for a minute then...maybe, you need help. poo, I`ve been downrange and seen a lot of things I would rather forget and this still made my heart heavy!
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Male 39,913

Way to go Prez.
A press conferance by the POTUS gave the guy the notoriety he wanted.
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Female 1,478
Also the "Ct." part...
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Female 8
well yes, he "dries" his tears...
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Male 642
pah.. democrats.. drying fruits in a crisis like that..
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Female 1,478
Just -try-, fancy. It`s really easy. I promise.
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Male 3,285
dries?
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Male 20,909
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