How To Beat Your Slave: Via The Bloodthirsty Bible

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Ike Turner aint got nothing on God!
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Male 12,365
Incidentally, `testament` doesn`t mean `law`. But that`s a minor detail compared with the rest of the obviously false statements in your "reply". Which, of course, is in no way a reply. You know that the truth is inconvenient, so you ignore it. You have never made any true reply to any post.

Try reading your own holy book or looking at your own religion in the real world. The new testament contains repeated explicit statements that the rules of the old testament must be upheld (I gave chapter and verse, which you ignored as I knew you would). Contempory Christianity is still based in the old testament (the best know example at the moment would be opposition to homosexuality, but there are many others). Countries do not continue to enforce laws for 2000 years after they`ve been replaced by new laws.

Your entire argument is, as usual, a lie.
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Male 12,365
You interest me, TGS.

You`re a liar and a bigot (or a liar pretending to be a bigot for the purposes of trolling) but you`re competent with English and you`ve been around for a while. That`s interesting because it`s an unusual combination. Most liars and bigots are semiliterate and most trolls quickly get bored and move on.

I`m inclined to believe you`re trolling. Your constant baseless accusations, false statements and irrational arguments are completely unbelievable. You don`t seem insane enough to believe them, so I conclude that you`re trolling.

You`re good at it and you`re keeping it up. I suppose it`s nice for you that you have a talent, even if it`s a pointless and unpleasant one.
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Male 1,243
Angilion: Sorry to hear you`re still living by prejudice, which is causing a severe incapacitation of your abillity to discern basic principles. I`ll try to make it simple.

Testament = law. old testament = old law. new testament = new law. When a new law is made up in most countries, they use it and gradually lean on the new law and step step away from the old. It`s a simple concept, but can be hard for some people to grasp when they are living by bias, prejduce, or delusions.
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Male 8,132
CrakrJak

"criminals don`t knowingly commit crimes in front of a cop"

Absolutely. People wouldn`t do anything if god actually let himself be known. So even though we are supposedly "his children" and "he loves us" he allows the most brutal atrocities to happen to us when it would be so easy to stop it. Why? A cop wouldn`t allow bad things to happen to people in front of him. Why does god?
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Male 12,365
[quote]I don`t pay God anything, Jesus paid the cost for you and me and everyone else.[/quote]

Unless you have faith that there is no such thing as sin and hasn`t been since Jesus died, you`re just another theist wildly contradicting themselves.

You`re just making stuff up on an ad hoc basis.
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Male 12,365
The clearest example, stated as a direct quote from Jesus himself, is Matthew 5:17-19 but there are plenty of other examples in the NT.
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Male 12,365
TGS:

I see that you`re still either trolling, deluded or a propagandist without the slightest care for the truth.

Your lastest few sentences of untrue statements, just below, would have some validity if the old testament wasn`t part of Christianity. But, of course, it is. You`ll find it in every Christian bible and it isn`t prefaced by an intro page saying "Hey, this half of the bible is to be ignored!" Nor is the beginning of the NT prefaced with an intro page saying "Hey, this is the real bit! God has had a radical change in personality, so much so that they`re totally different! So forgive them for being so vile before."

The OT is deeply engrained in Christianity, both as written and as implemented in the real world. The NT contains repeated orders to follow the rules of the OT.

You`re ignorant of your own religion, which is no surprise. Most theists are.
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Male 1,243
Oh look, another video by someone who hates faith in God, and is desperate to discredit God by mistakenly thinking that the old testament is the way of doing things when the new testament is built on "Love one another". Apparently it`s been 2000 years and people still didn`t get the message. So it`s made by "The `thinking` atheist"? That`s an insult to atheists who really do think, but if it was the `biased`, `prejudical`, or `delusional` athiest, well, that would be closer to the truth, but still the info is wrong.
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Male 17,512
HG: A judge is not a cop, and criminals don`t knowingly commit crimes in front of a cop. If you knew everything you did was watched over by a cop, this wouldn`t be a `free society` and we wouldn`t have `freewill` either.

God wants us to do good on our own, with our freewill. The crimes you commit are not the fault of the judge, they aren`t the fault of the cop either. You choose your own fate.

Angilion: [quote]You pay your god for "protection"...[/quote]

I don`t pay God anything, Jesus paid the cost for you and me and everyone else.
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Male 12,365
[quote]God didn`t punish mankind in the OT to be mean or unjust, he did so to protect them from themselves and the wages of their sins.[/quote]

Your god`s the one imposing the "wages of their sins".

It`s a blatant protection racket - the protection being sold is protection from the person selling it.

You pay a criminal gang for "protection" so they don`t ruin your life.

You pay your god for "protection" so they don`t ruin your afterlife (and maybe life as well, depending on your beliefs).

The last time this came up, I likened your god to an abusive pimp. I do so again. Some victims are mentally broken enough to think that it`s their fault their abuser beat them (because they didn`t obey their abuser well enough). Your religion is just a scaled-up version of the same behaviour, but you`re advocating it for others and that`s hugely offensive.
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Male 8,132
Crakr

"You are trying to blame the judge for your crime,"

This is a weird debate, since we are talking about god`s actions when I don`t actually believe go exists.

However, if we hypothesize god exists and also agree that he is all knowing and all powerful then he knew this was going to happen, could have stopped it, and chose not to.

I don`t believe god should stop all sin but at some point how can he not step in? Is this part of his "plan"? Because if so, how can you worship a gos with that kind of plan?

If the judge has the power to prevent something and doesn`t, then I absolutely blame him.

If a criminal commits a crime he is at fault, but if someone is in a position to stop it and chooses not to they are held accountable too.

God used to step in all the time back in the day according to the bible. Why has he abandoned us now?
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Male 17,512
HG: I see that you`re retreating back into your circular logic that God is to blame for sin again.
You`ve spouted that nonsense more times than I care to count.

You are trying to blame the judge for your crime, when it`s your crime that really does you in.
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Male 7,123
That`s quite a memory you have there, Rosie. You miss the old days too, huh?
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Male 27
I remember when this website had funny and entertaining posts instead of constant flamebait.
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Male 7,775
Like I always say about you religious folk: Pick and choose the bits you want to believe in.
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Male 7,123
cont.

Christianity? I think that there probably was an historical Jesus, but I don`t think the NT tells us anything reliable about him. the Sermon on the Mount is very nice, but it was first written 60 or 70 years after the event so he did he really say that? Or was he they guy who really emphasised Hell and eternal torture for making the wrong choices/ we don`t know know and it doesn`t matter because christianity as we know it is a political and marketing construct starting with Paul and developed by treaties and conclaves of prelates and princes and political movers deciding on a mutually advantageous power share.

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Male 14,334
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Male 14,334
@LordJim

LOL yep seen these things. Lewis Black described Judaism well here.
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Male 7,123
McGovern1981

Since you ask, but I`m sure you have watched many such.

Yes, Islam is clearly the most violent, backward and self-obsessed of all the major religions. Currently, it wasn`t always so. And Islam is almost as obviously as Mormonism a cynically invented religion designed to further the founder`s mundane agenda. A pack of lies.

Judaism is a massive and ancient resource of early mythology, poetry, genealogy, boasting sbout genocide, philosophy, primitive medicine, tribal laws and very unreliable history. Anthropologically fascinating (unlike the koran) but to se it as a basis for a moral system you would have to devote a lifetime to squaring circles.

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Male 8,132
There is no god. If you disagree with me then turn on the f.ucking news. There is your proof.
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Male 7,123
The three abrahamic religions all claim to have laws and moral commands directly from god. Yet all three blew it at the starting gate by not mentioning that people are people, not commodities to be owned or traded. That should have been basic.
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Male 15,832
[quote]Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.[/quote]
-Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love (Robert Heinlein)
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Male 1,558
Why don`t relgious dummies think just once rationaly about their silly supersition
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Male 1,048
Out of all the gods there are in this world, I think I only like IAB`s HolyGod.
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Male 8,132
CobraKiller

"Religion, to me, is absence of education. What we dont know, we fill in with "God did it"."

Absolutely. Ancient cultures had gods holding the world, moving the sun and moon, causing seasons, and everything else they couldn`t explain.

Now that science has chipped away at all that mystery people need a god to explain the unanswerable questions that scare them. How did we get here? Why are we here? What happens when we die? Answers: god made us, to serve god, we go to god.

As Einstein said, it is completely childish but I am jealous at times. It would be nice to believe such wonderful fairy tales.
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Male 2,774
Given the time of year and my sister`s fundamentalist leanings, I find that I am unable to stop myself from sending her this video. It will, I`m sure, give us something to talk about at Christmas dinner- and I need the giggles.
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Male 8,132
CrakrJak

"he wouldn`t have sent his son to teach and sacrifice for us."

How did Jesus sacrifice for us? What did he save us from? God right? So we should thank god for sending his son to die to protect us from god? How does that make sense to you?
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Male 7,611
crakr, I kind of think you missed the point of my post. The god I grew up with wasnt the harsh god that steer some away from religion. I was taught of a great, just, and loving god. I just slowly started to lose faith as I learned more about the world.

Okay, it wasnt that slowly. I started questioning the existence of a god in early elementary school, and was agnostic by the time I was middle school.
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Male 17,512
cobrakiller: I`m not going to argue about the Old Testament, You see a lot of anger and violence on God`s part there. If all you took away from the OT was anger and malevolence, then I`m afraid you missed the good parts.

God loves us like children and we are mentally a lot like young children compared to God. Just like a child that chaffes against their parents rules, so man has done against God. God didn`t punish mankind in the OT to be mean or unjust, he did so to protect them from themselves and the wages of their sins.

I know you don`t see it that way, but God loves us more than realize, otherwise he wouldn`t have sent his son to teach and sacrifice for us.
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Male 7,611
crakr, I grew up in protestant family [also, parts of it jewish, and parts wicca], and we had the happiest go luckiest view of god in my church.

It wasnt a mean and nasty got that turned me away from christianity [or the others], but education.

Religion, to me, is absence of education. What we dont know, we fill in with "God did it". So, the more I learned the less room there was for a deity to fit.

Like HolyGod [the IABer, not the deity] said, nobody attacks Christ. They attack gods and the people who follow them. I personally believe that Jesus [or at least a man that he was based on] existed, but wasnt the son of a god. He was a philosopher who spoke of love and respect before it was cool to do so.
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Male 8,132
CrakrJak

"So much strict discipline turns people off to God and that`s NOT what the message of Christ`s love is about."

Nobody rips on Christ. I never have. This post isn`t. This video isn`t. It is about what happens before Christ shows up. That`s the problem.

The new testament is chock full of love, forgiveness, and acceptance. It is not Christ I have a problem with. It is God. If Christians just threw away the old testament I wouldn`t rag on them any more. I still wouldn`t believe, but at least I`d accept the principles.

Nobody will ever convince me the old testament shows a loving, accepting, forgiving god, because I have read it.
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Female 1,743
Also, a lot of the Bible and other ancient "holy" texts are just a bunch of cannon fodder. Once religious people acknowledge this and stop taking it as a personal attack, this world will definitely be a better place.
It`s fine to have faith, but using it against other people (such as: LIMITING THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS) is taking away from your little rainbowy happy "God is Love" message.
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Male 3,445
"Nobody can prove or disprove your God or Gods, so keep it in your pants and learn to get along."

This is pretty much how I feel. There`s plenty of wisdom in admitting that you don`t know what simply cannot be known.
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Female 1,743
Nobody can prove or disprove your God or Gods, so keep it in your pants and learn to get along.

k. thanks.
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Male 17,512
patchouly: [quote]I grew up a Catholic[/quote]

This explains a lot. You got the short end of the stick when it comes to preaching about God`s love.
Most atheists I know were formerly Catholics, sad to say. I`m sorry that you grew up with that fear. So much strict discipline turns people off to God and that`s NOT what the message of Christ`s love is about.
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Male 14,334
@FoolsPrussia

I enforce what you preach by making fun of everything there`s your equality.
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Male 3,445
@McGovern: You are obsessed, man.
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Male 14,334
@carmium

I`ve seen how controling they are first hand with their wifes and daughters but we can`t talk about it for the sake of being PC here.
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Male 1,497
<-Born again Athiest
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Male 4,431
Okay, carmium, I can buy that. Now, tell me, is it higher in the Muslim population than, say, spousal abuse in the overall population across the country? I`m not a Muslim apologist, but my guess is that what happens in the Middle East is a lot more to do with socioeconomics than religion. But, hey, if the stats show a much greater chance of abuse here in the West, I`ll happily call it out! My point was only that we call out and poke at and shine a light on the hypocrisy of what`s happening HERE. Not the Middle East. Unlike all of the damned neocons, I don`t CARE what`s happening over there.
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Male 4,431
Draculya, those are called libraries or book stores. And they`re awesome!
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Male 14,835
"Making it an extra dumb comment is the fact that the muslim god and christian god are the SAME GOD"

You are 33% correct, with the exception of the Son and the Holy Ghost. However, seeing as they are all fairytale monsters, it`s moot.
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Female 6,381
SmagBoy & McGovern:
Visit a suburban women`s shelter around here and you`ll see the results of a lot of wife abuse by Islamic males. Many come to Canada and expect to carry on dictating every aspect of their spouses` lives, and many women who try to take advantage of the country`s freedoms have been beaten and even killed.
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Male 14,835
@Gerry is there a church for Atheists (I bet there is).
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Male 8,132
McGovern1981

"Where`s Islams how to beat and/or stone your wife/wives?"

Mother of f.uck. Do you dips.hits really have nothing better to say on these posts than "what about the muslims?" It is so tired and predictable.

This country is mostly christian. Overwhelmingly so. Christian holidays, christian bumper stickers, christian churches on every corner, christians picketing, and almost an entirely christian government. So OBVIOUSLY any critique of religion is most poignant when aimed at the christian religion.

Asking what about the muslims? is just as pointless as asking what about the wiccans?

Making it an extra dumb comment is the fact that the muslim god and christian god are the SAME GOD. The holy books are the SAME STORIES in many regards. So ripping on the christian god IS ripping on the muslim god.
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Male 38,511

When it comes to God you`ll find exactly what you`re looking for.
You want a vengefull, mean god? There`s a church for that.
You want a forgiving, doesn`t care if you get drunk on Saturday as long as you show up to church on Sunday? There`s a church for that.
You want a god that lays major guilt trips on you? There`as a church for that.

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Male 4,431
Hey, McGovern, looking around the US, I don`t see too many Muslims beating/stoning their wife/wives. But, you can bet your ass that when they start, if they ever start trying to write laws to govern ALL of us, and not just themselves, we`ll be poking at them, too.
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Male 14,334
Where`s Islams how to beat and/or stone your wife/wives?
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Male 4,746
I grew up a Catholic. The God I learned about in Sunday school and church was a scary God that you were meant to fear. He was murderous and vengeful. He would kill you in horrible ways if you didn`t do what you were told. He would torture you by killing your family and leaving you alive to witness it. He would doom you to an eternity of Hell fire if you looked at someone the wrong way. God was not the loving, caring, heart warming, wish granting wizard that folks make him out to be, now.

It`s so convenient to just change things when it doesn`t suit you.
"Scary God turning people away from the Church? I know, let`s go with loving God instead".

Silly Christians.
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Female 3,727
Link: How To Beat Your Slave: Via The Bloodthirsty Bible [Rate Link] - Ike Turner aint got nothing on God!
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