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Date: 12/08/12 03:42 PM

27 Responses to Anderson Cooper Calls Out Senate Republicans

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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    December 7, 2012 at 10:42 am
    Link: Anderson Cooper Calls Out Senate Republicans - For flip-flopping on the U.N. disabilities treaty
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Who gives a damn?
    We have good rights protections for disabled people here, why do we care what every other country on Earth does? A UN treat has no teeth, is unenforcable. So what`s the point of it?

    We`re good here, let the rest of the world do what they want.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    December 8, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    Someone please save us from the people trying to help us.
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    MRFISTO Male 40-49
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    December 8, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    republicans suck.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    "A UN treat has no teeth, is unenforcable. So what`s the point of it?"

    It`s about setting a standard for the world to follow, based on the standard we set for ourselves. That`s all.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 8, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    "A UN treaty has no teeth, is unenforceable" (spelling corrected)

    It`s only "unenforceable" until such time later that they decide to enforce it. People were once told that the police wouldn`t be stopping people for not wearing their seat belts, back when that law was originally passed, now they do it all the time.

    Our ADA is perfectly fine. We don`t need some future UN government telling us later that we have to live by their rules, not ours.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    December 8, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    @Gerry1of1: that`s because your government`s foreign policy won`t let the rest of the world do what they want.

    Want complete sovereignty, you can`t meddle with other sovereign nation`s affairs without them asking that your government behaves like a civilized state.

    Ergo, treaties.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    December 8, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    @CrakrJak: you must`ve missed the part where 3 people say: "there is nothing, absolutely nothing in this treaty that says the UN can legally dictate what the US does with their disabilities legislation"
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    sutra46 Female 40-49
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    December 8, 2012 at 7:46 pm
    Gerry, Americans do travel to & live in (large numbers) in the `rest of the world`.
    Myopic views.


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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    December 8, 2012 at 8:03 pm
    Ever travel in Europe? I`ve taken two trips to Europe this year. I also have bad knees that make it hard for me to walk long distances, let alone with luggage. Stairs are EVERYWHERE in Europe. I was miserable unless I actually found a hotel, subway or train station that had an elevator or at least an escalator. Even if they had one, many weren`t working. I honestly don`t know how people in wheelchairs function in Europe and it`s certainly miserable for a disabled American trying to travel or work there. The far right GOP is the tinfoil hat society and care about nothing that doesn`t affect them personally. They have zero empathy for other people. They USED to, just not now.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    December 8, 2012 at 8:03 pm
    "A UN treat has no teeth, is unenforcable. So what`s the point of it?"

    ...until it`s ratified. Then it carries the same force as the constitution itself.

    Besides, if it has no legal force behind it, why is is so important to pass it? On the one hand, they say it`s critically important, and on the other hand, they say it is completely powerless and inconsequential.

    So, which is it?
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    December 8, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    If a country ratifies a treaty, they are making a promise to live up to it. It`s an oath. If they don`t live up to their promise, they dishonor their country. That actually means something to some people. In SOME countries. Does it mean something to us? The treaty sets a standard. If no one sets a standard, what progress will be made? We should be flattered that OUR law was used as the gold standard for other countries to aspire to. But, now we`ve embarrassed ourselves in front of the rest of the world. Again.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    December 8, 2012 at 8:24 pm
    @lauriloo I recommend you remain in America, then.
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    Zuriel Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    lol, the UN is as useless as the EPA and FDA...

    TARDS, the lot of `em !
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    mikelae18 Male 18-29
    79 posts
    December 8, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    This treaty required no change of US law because it was based on US laws. During the vote Disabled Former Republican Senator Bob Dole came to show support for the treaty. Many republicans shook Bob`s hand right after they voted against the Treaty.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    sutra46, sure americans travel and settle elsewhere. But they can`t expect USA standards anywhere in the world but in the USA. They might find somethings better, others worse. But back over here we don`t need to concern ourself with how many wheel chair ramps are in Armenia.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    December 8, 2012 at 10:52 pm
    "@lauriloo I recommend you remain in America, then."

    I don`t see why you would have a problem with what I said. I`m just illustrating how disabled people would benefit by higher accessibility in other countries. Is that a bad thing?

    "But back over here we don`t need to concern ourself with how many wheel chair ramps are in Armenia."

    You obviously don`t understand what this treaty is about. Other countries bought into the great things we did for disabled people and vowed to meet those standards for their people. Not forced to, WANT to. Standards that used to be important to republicans. Signing this treaty is like signing a petition, saying you agree with what it says. We used to like to think of the USA as being leaders. Now a tiny segment of our population is making us a joke with their paranoia and isolationism. We ARE world citizens whether you like it or not, and not just when money for us is involved.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    December 8, 2012 at 11:08 pm
    jendrian: If it`s based off our own ADA, then it`s not necessary for us to ratify it. We do not need to be saddled with even more bureaucracy now or later down the road.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    December 9, 2012 at 8:18 am
    This issue really separates the sane people from the tin-foil hat crowd.
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    Shelworth Male 50-59
    384 posts
    December 9, 2012 at 11:06 am
    You realize this treaty would change our laws, right? It would take the final say about a disabled child away from the parents and give it to the Federal Government.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    December 9, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    @lauriloo: well put
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    December 9, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    "You realize this treaty would change our laws, right? It would take the final say about a disabled child away from the parents and give it to the Federal Government."

    Did you even watch the video? It would NOT change our laws.
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    richanddead Male 18-29
    3318 posts
    December 9, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    I could be for this UN measure, homeschooling aside, if it doesn`t interfere with our sovereignty. But then what? Your just going to tell poor countries like Zimbabwe that can`t afford mass wheel-chair ramps to get them? Will it try to combat Europe`s forced sterilization and eugenics programs?
    My biggest problem is in the first Article "to promote, protect and ensure the full and equal enjoyment of all human rights and fundamental freedoms by all persons with disabilities, and to promote respect for their inherent dignity."
    Who is ensuring it? How do you ensure it and keep it sovereign? Who`s promoting it? What are their views on inherent dignity and respect? The UN? That means France, China, and Russia get to decide, and we get to be the ones that pay for it. That I`m not for.
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    richanddead Male 18-29
    3318 posts
    December 9, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    If it`s just a feel-good circle-j--k session, meh,I guess, it`s what the UN does best. But if we have to shell out any more money or rights to the UN, they can go fly a kite in my opinion.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    December 10, 2012 at 6:13 am
    It`s only "unenforceable" until such time later that they decide to enforce it. People were once told that the police wouldn`t be stopping people for not wearing their seat belts, back when that law was originally passed, now they do it all the time.
    And if the UN were the police force of the US that might mean something. Unless you`re going that extra tin-hat mile and believe that the UN is going to somehow become this twisted world government that`s sole objective is to overthrow the US and turn it into a communist regime.
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    scapegoat7 Male 18-29
    210 posts
    December 10, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    Stewart: It`s Official, Republicans Hate the U.N. More Than They Like Helping People in Wheelchairs
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    bliznik Male 30-39
    784 posts
    December 11, 2012 at 7:33 am
    OMFG, reading some of the headlines that Republicans have been spewing about CRPD is ridiculous:

    "CRPD would promote abortion on a large, international scale"

    WOWEeeee

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