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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:21 am
    Link: A Christmas Billboard In Times Square, NYC - Bold statement, but why not just let people celebrate what they want to celebrate?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:24 am
    Hey, if people want to celebrate Homeland, that`s their problem.
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:25 am
    Because christians think they run the world- or wish they could!
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:25 am
    Yeah, because Santa isn`t a myth or anything....
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:26 am
    Jesus is the only part of the bible I actually like. Strip away the virgin birth, and miracles, and resurrection. A good guy who preached about love and acceptance and forgiveness.

    Go ahead and keep Jesus.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:32 am
    Santa is a myth too....
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:40 am
    Athiests are the new Mormons...they won`t stfu.
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:40 am
    or the new Christians, rather.
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    Open_Guard Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:41 am
    Meh. I see the point of giving christians a taste of their own medicine.... this just kinda fails at it and comes off as dickish.
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:43 am
    I`m pretty anti religious person but even I find this distasteful. Christmas is a religious event after all, even though I don`t celebrate that aspect I do join in with the sentiments attached to it and accept that. Take the historical aspect away and all you have is a capitalist orgy, by rights the atheist society should be calling for a complete ban on christmas rather than changing it and trying to hide their own hypocrisy.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:48 am
    I`m an atheist and I find this billboard to be offensive. Not for what it says to me, of course, but because it insults people without cause. I have no problem at all with trading insults with someone who`s trying to shove their religion down you throat but that should be a focused response, not a general one.
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    dbss Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:49 am
    Atheists are just as annoying as anyone else pushing their beliefs or disbelief.
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:54 am
    does no one see the irony of celebrating a guy who preached against materialism birthday buy buying a crap ton of material goods? FOX loves to talk about a war on Christmas, Christmas has become a war on christian teachings.
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    danagamer Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 11:59 am
    I thought an atheist was some one who doesn`t bother to believe in anything... they have an organization that pays for billboard ads ? Why, what do they stand to gain from it?
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    @chimmeychang- no. nobody has ever noticed that. congratulations.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    @dbss hey, don`t push our disbelief in my disbelief in somebody else`s beliefs.

    Damn apathetitheists, just as annoying as everybody else
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    The reason we GIVE presents on Christmas, is because the wise men gave Jesus presents. That is all.

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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    "Bold statement, but why not just let people celebrate what they want to celebrate?"

    When I stop seeing christain and christmas stuff shoved down my throat all the time. Can i go into one drating store and not here a xmas song? and all of them with lyrics like "god is good" and "our savior" as to say we are christians, drating deal with it!

    and as far as billboards go, atheists will stop putting up their propaganda on billboards as soon as you can get the churches to stop advertising as well. good luck, the christans will never do it. they are more of a business than anything else.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    @spanerbulb: if by "religious" you mean the celebration of saturnalia, then yeah, given that if the messiah of the christian faith was born at all, it wasn`t in that day
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    @CoyoteKing- really? I`m not having anything shoved down my throat... Unless you are talking about the Christian cards stuck amongst the others or the occasional nativity along the roads.

    But silly me, I just look the other way. I didn`t realize I was supposed to be offended.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    @FoolsPrussia- GOOD POINT!!!! Santa is a myth too. No one is out protesting Santa!

    Live and let others live.
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    WesleyV78 Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    Love it. American Atheists promote thoughtful ideas for the betterment of all Americans. I look forward to the day when a political candidate can say proudly that they are not weirdly superstitious.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    Who cares? It`s a billboard, if you pay for the space to advertise then you can put whatever you want on it as long it`s not breaking any laws. Their promoting their website, Showtime is promoting their show Homeland right next to it. Some people don`t like the show but I don`t hear them b*tching about that billboard.
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    Meh. It isn`t even the day the guy was born...Christmas is a fugazi holiday. The pope said so himself.

    I could care less who gets hurt about their spiritual beliefs. As long as the Christians are pushing it down our throat, they should get something shoved down theirs.

    If you do not wish for your beliefs to be ridiculed or disputed, keep them to yourself....or better yet...in your house of worship.

    bleh.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    "Christmas is a fugazi holiday"

    If we celebrated it in Spring when it actually happened, there would be no less bitching.

    It`s actually celebrated when it is, because there are no Christian holidays in winter, and the early Christians needed to cover up the Pagan holiday that celebrates the winter solstice. So what.
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:48 pm
    @HalfPintRoo: i just cant stand xmas, its inescapable. i feel no matter where i go i can try to avoid it but thats just not possible. its everywhere. but you are correct, you dont have to be offended by it.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:53 pm
    It`s actually celebrated when it is, because there are no Christian holidays in winter, and the early Christians needed to cover up the Pagan holiday that celebrates the winter solstice. So what.
    I think, more the point, is that why not just make some random holiday then like All Saints Day or somesuch? Why did it *have* to be the birth of someone who wasn`t born that day?
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
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    December 11, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    Why do atheists need to advertise? Surely, if you tell me there is a heaven it`s your job to prove it, not mine to proof there isn`t. I don`t mind what anybody believes until they start organizing and telling me to live my life according to their rules. Atheists and Christians both should STFU.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    Where`s this billboard??

    Oh ya we can only bash Christianity otherwise that wouldn`t be PC!
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    @McGovern1981: When was the last time that happened in New York? (Or wherever the hell that billboard is).

    If there`s a billboard campaigning against acid-throwing douchebags, it`s placed where it`s needed.
  31. Profile photo of Wundt
    Wundt Male 40-49
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    burbclaver, there are two very good reasons why atheists advertise.

    First, to counter the noise from all of the Christian billboards. There are thousands of billboards, print ads, and radio and tv ads from churches and religious organizations. But, when a free-thought organizations put up one billboard there is a massive outcry from Christians. Putting up such ads proves we are here and have a right to present our opinion.

    Second, many, many people who are atheists, or think they might be atheists, feel like they are the only one. This is a message to people with doubts that it is okay to have doubts, and that there are people who agree with you.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    for example:
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    from here
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    Let`s just completely ignore the fact that CHIRSTmas is an effinf CHRISTIAN holiday... *eyeroll*
  35. Profile photo of cityncolour
    cityncolour Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    why??? why? because WE have to be offended every day. every single chistian billboard has SOME sort of implication that we atheists are evil heathens and will spend an eternity in a lake of fire. why cant YOU celebrate YOUR religion where it is supposed to be celebrated? in your house or in your church. leave it OUT of my public spaces because i don`t give a poo.
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    cityncolour Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    @burbclaver
    is it my job to prove the non-existence of bigfoot or the locness monster as well?? i don`t believe in either of those. the proof lies in the person/group MAKING THE CLAIM. you have not provided me any reason to believe which is why i am an atheist. i`m not the one making the claim that god exists... you are. so i believe it is your job to prove it. not the other way around, douche bag.
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    CCMA_19 Female 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    I`m not religious at all but the birth of Jesus CHRIST is the whole reason for CHRISTmas
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    @jendrian

    So according to your logic they`re crucifying people in NYC?
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    WizardofCOR Male 40-49
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    I concur with Wundt and cityncolour. In response to TruTenrMan, I would say "ummm... No."
    The origin of Christmas is clearly pagan, and this (as well as several other holidays) were simply usurped by Christianity. A little research would be recommended.
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    horror102 Male 40-49
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    I find this very offensive. Let me run out and get a lawyer to have it removed.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 11, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    AJ: If we celebrated it in Spring when it actually happened, there would be no less bitching.

    No, the atheists would still be bitching about Christmas no matter the time of year. But you won`t hear a peep out of them about Ramadan, Kwanza, Hanukkah or Festivus.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    December 11, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    what?
  43. Profile photo of burbclaver
    burbclaver Male 50-59
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    December 11, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    @cityncolour: That`s what I said. You have read it the wrong way.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    If you`re a dick, you`re a dick, regardless of if you`re atheist, Christian, Muslim, or Jewish. Enough with the pointless argument.
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
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    December 11, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    All fanatics are dangerous. Religious or otherwise.
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    cityncolour Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    @CrakrJak
    Bet your ass i would bitch about any of those holidays if any of them flooded my life for 2 straight months. and i would LOVE to see how you and the other sheep would react if any of those were celebrated the way christmas was... holy hell that would just be irony at it`s finest. Jesus, man, do you have any concept of life outside of your little sheltered box? just give up, you are truly useless.
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    cityncolour Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    @burbclaver
    my mistake, i do honestly apologize,
  48. Profile photo of cityncolour
    cityncolour Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 2:59 pm
    the biggest tragedy in all of this is the religious sympathy. really? why would i or anyone who is non-religious sympathize with people who believe that they deserve to burn in hell??? whether or not it actually exists is moot, the fact that they believe that it is something i DESERVE is deplorable. and that in itself is the TRUE testament to the dangers of religion. to believe condemnation for no other reason than disbelief. how f*cking archaic. not to mention its propensity to discourage critical thinking. oh, sure... just believe what you`re told, no reason to question any of it. f*ck. that. f*ck religion. i have no sympathy, the more of this kind of sh*t the better.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 3:16 pm
    @McGovern1981: No, according to my logic the people of New York are being bugged with religious messages, so they posted a billboard against it.

    I would love to know how you got to the conclusion that my point was that they were crucifying people in New York
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    @FoolsPrussia: Don`t like the debate, change the channel.
  51. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    "Don`t like the debate, change the channel."

    Mighty difficult to do when their wars are on every channel.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    Mighty difficult to do when their wars are on every channel.

    Not at all, I usually skip the comment section of 93% of the posts of this site. Seems fairly easy to me.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    December 11, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    Want to know when you are taking your message too far? You`re putting it on a billboard. I`d rather not see religion or politics on billboards. Same thing with on Facebook. Life is too short for division.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    If they wanted to be merry they could have spent the money they used advertising this maybe buying food and toys for underprivileged children, instead of trying to offend as many people as possible.
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    McThstlpnts Female 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 5:22 pm
    Oh wow.
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    JacobTrue13 Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 5:53 pm
    "Bold statement, but why not just let people celebrate what they want to celebrate?"

    Well... they can. American Atheists aren`t trying to outlaw religion/spirituality by law are they? It`s just a advertisement promoting something, just like every advertisement.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 11, 2012 at 6:17 pm
    cityncolour: Christmas has been part of American culture since it`s founding.

    I`m not fond of the commercialized mess that it`s become, but this billboard seems to be promoting that mess ahead of what the season is really about.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 6:47 pm
    yea atheists for the WIN
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    ak47reaper Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 6:56 pm
    Whats that CrakrJak lies, deceit, and theft.

    Lies to our kids.
    Deceit to our self.
    Theft form other religions.

    all thing good Christians should not do, also know as SINS.
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    Linkenberger Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    About 90% as pretentious as Christians accosting people for not celebrating the "true" meaning of Christmas.

    Merry Dickmas everyone.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    Gimp. This is a douche move. I`m an outspoken atheist myself, but Christmas is a special time to many religious people. I celebrate it in my way, but to do this is kinda like putting up a banner outside a Christian funeral proclaiming "Ha, you fools, grandpa`s wormfood and there`s no afterlife!"

    Piss off, let people have whatever they have to make them happy.

    We have a nativity scene set up under our Christmas tree, because my 6-year old daughter says that she loves the Christmas story of baby Jesus in the manger. So, we put it there, she wanted it. Maybe she`ll change her mind, maybe she won`t. When she asked me the other day whether Jesus was real, I told her that some people think so, and some people don`t, and that she could think whatever she believes in.

    Mind you, I don`t live in America, I don`t see the religious billboards every day, so maybe the backlash is justified, I dunno

    To me it seems douche. Merry Christmas everyone BTW!
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2012 at 10:10 pm
    I`m as godless as the next heathen, but David Silverman and his horrible billboards need to f#*k off.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    December 11, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    @CrakrJak - "Christmas has been part of American culture since it`s founding."

    Nope, sorry, you`re way off on that one buddy! Christmas was not a part of American culture at the time the country was founded. There was even a span of 22 years (1659-1681) when Puritans had outlawed Christmas celebrations in Boston. It wasn`t recognized as a federal holiday until 1870. You can read all anout it here if you`d like.
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    sutra46 Female 40-49
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    December 11, 2012 at 10:37 pm
    Without the myth it`s just the shopping!
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
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    December 12, 2012 at 5:31 am
    I`m as atheist as they come, but this is pretty damned pretentious. Who the hell cares.
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    cityncolour Male 30-39
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    December 12, 2012 at 6:14 am
    @CrakrJak
    I believe you are mistaken. please show me a link to a founding document that states chistmas is a part of anything. show me a national history that makes christmas a tradition in any form. as a matter of fact christmas didn`t even become a national holiday until 1870, which is a far cry from "its founding". seriously... useless.
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    Dragonace Male 30-39
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    December 12, 2012 at 6:24 am
    I think its hilarious that Christians still think that the birth of their savior is the true meaning of the holiday. I hate to burst your bubble, but pretty much every single xmas holiday tradition can be traced back to pagan origins. The original holiday celebrated on December 25th was the celebration of the Winter Solstice. It has been celebrated for centuries amongst many ancient cultures and thus many ancient deities were thought to have been born on this day: Osiris, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Adonis, and Jupiter to name a few. So in order to more easily move christianity into the public consciousness, the catholic church decided that their deity, the son of god, was born on this day too.
  68. Profile photo of cityncolour
    cityncolour Male 30-39
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    December 12, 2012 at 6:25 am
    @markust123
    i find it mildy ironic that you use the phrase "life is too short for division" to criticize something that is basically saying the same thing. Clearly, you do not see that, and i most definitely don`t expect the christian freak-o`s to see see it; but i bet that most atheists are anti-religious for the very same reason. life is too short for division, not ONLY that, but it is the ONLY life we have, when it over, it`s over.
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    cityncolour Male 30-39
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    December 12, 2012 at 6:27 am
    @Justin9235
    i care.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    December 12, 2012 at 8:07 am
    I for one think it was genius to keep so many pagan traditions to make it easier for them to "convert".

    All depends on how you look at it.

    And don`t lump all nut job Christian`s together, not all of them think its a bad thing to have different beliefs and try shoving it down your throat.

    Have I?
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    Kalimata Male 30-39
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    December 12, 2012 at 8:19 am
    Most people have totally missed the point. These billboards are going up not because the Atheists want to destroy Christianity, and kill Christmas. (Some do perhaps, but not the majority)

    Atheists are frightened and concerned with the increasing acceptance of dogma as scientific fact. Dogma legitimizing the subjugation of gay people. Elected officials quoting the bible as fact during discussions on environmental policies. It is the forcing of "Christian Values and Morality" on the rest of society that gives rise to these billboards.

    Christmas is the holiday with the biggest Christian fanfare, so it`s the best time for a billboard. Wouldn`t get as much "bang for your buck" to put up a "Keep your Christ outta my Samhain" billboard.
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    MasterJedi79 Male 30-39
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    December 12, 2012 at 10:57 am
    COMPLETELY TRUE. I am a christian, but I do NOT celebrate christmas because it has NOTHING to do with Jesus or God ... it NEVER DID! But ironically, only ONE man in the billboard actually existed in real life.
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    Dragonace Male 30-39
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    December 12, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    But ironically, only ONE man in the billboard actually existed in real life.

    And that would be Saint Nicholas. He was a Roman Catholic Bishop who was born in 280 BC, in what is now present day Turkey.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 12, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    cityncolour: There is plenty of anecdotal evidence that Christmas was indeed an important holiday to early Americans.

    whodat: The Puritans were a non-celebratory lot to begin with, very dour and strict. But your evidence that they had banned it, shows that it was being celebrated before they banned it. (otherwise there would be nothing to ban, would there?) Also, the federal government was much more limited in scope before the civil war and there were no `federal holidays` until the 1870s.
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    PirateNinja Female 13-17
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    December 12, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    Dammit, people, why can`t we just leave them alone and let them have their fantasies? I`ll absolutely take up arms any time they try to push it into my life (particularly via government.) But if that`s what they want to believe privately, who gives a flying duck?
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    AywooJablome Male 40-49
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    December 12, 2012 at 9:55 pm
    Don`t feed the trolls
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    December 13, 2012 at 8:27 am
    If christianity is the national religion,we`ve already lost.

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