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Submitted by: fancylad 5 years ago in

Let it be known, 8:04 I-A-B time: I-A-B calls it for Obama: 4 more years of Obama butting heads with a Republican house.
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Male 373
Is this butthurt whingefest still going on?
The same exact poo from you people every four years, no matter who gets elected, one side is predicting the end of America.


Stop drating whining so much.
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Male 579
And thank God the Republicans kept the house! Can you imagine the debt in four years if we were back to all liberal idiocy in the government? Our best hope is total stagnation and the government does no further damage until BO is out of office. The only thing good about Obama being re-elcetd is that it is one day closer to when he is out of office and can do no further damage to what will be left of our once great country.
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Male 10,855
pquote]You say this like its a bad thing.[/quote]


It would actually be a good thing because then we wouldn`t have a major party with social conservatism as part of its platform.
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Male 7,839
cajun, "Then the Republican party will continue to suffer defeat after defeat until it`s eclipsed by the Libertarian party."

You say this like its a bad thing.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Republicans didn`t `loose` any groups, we`ve made gains into those groups[/quote]

Latinos: Mainstream GOP supported restrictionist immigration policies, so the Latino vote swung for Obama.

Women: There was the obviously idiotic statements on rape, and partially to do with opposition to Gay Marriage. Women and especially single women steered towards Obama.

Youth: Granted Obama didn`t quite attract demographic like he did in `08, but he still got it decisively. Continued opposition to Gay marriage, drug legalization, and their hawkish attitude towards Iran and China.

Independents overall didn`t like Romney`s hawkish stance on China and Iran.

Fiscal conservatism? Not there.

I don`t know where you`re seeing these "gains" quite frankly.
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Male 7,378
[quote]One of these days I hope you wake up out of your haze and realize you`ve been fed regurgitated pablum.[/quote] --------------
This coming from a guy that predicted a Romney presidency. Way to deny your own reality Karl Rove.
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Male 2,357
[quote]They lost a huge amount of the women vote, and their percentage of latinos was way down too, not to mention the black vote.[/quote]
I have to wonder, is there any potential Republican candidate that could have beaten Obama and his dominating campaign? Perhaps Marco Rubio would have won over some of the latino vote as well as some of the women vote.

[quote]The amount of liberal libel aimed at Romney was overwhelming.[/quote]
Indeed. So what the amount of conservative libel (and slander) levied against Obama.
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Male 17,511
patchgrabber: Republicans didn`t `loose` any groups, we`ve made gains into those groups. Unfortunately it wasn`t enough. The amount of liberal libel aimed at Romney was overwhelming.

The amount of scaremongering and deception going on in the media is to the point of pissing down people`s backs and telling them it`s raining.
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Male 17,511
madest: [quote]There is no such thing as "liberal" media.[/quote]

Maybe not from your view of the world, you`re so far to the left that everything seems to the right. You believe everything the liberal media tells you is `fact`.

One of these days I hope you wake up out of your haze and realize you`ve been fed regurgitated pablum.
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Male 5,811
@Crakr: But having ethnically diverse employees =/= appealing to them. Even if they`re not racist, and certainly there are many who aren`t, the repubs have not appealed to those groups, and it showed in the election. They lost a huge amount of the women vote, and their percentage of latinos was way down too, not to mention the black vote. The party needs to "reboot" itself, and start putting forward some more moderate candidates. But I sense you`ll take your lead from Fox News and say that the problem was that Romney wasn`t conservative enough.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Won`t happen[/quote]

Then the Republican party will continue to suffer defeat after defeat until it`s eclipsed by the Libertarian party.
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Male 7,378
There is no such thing as "liberal" media. News is news, facts are facts. If you`re incapable of filtering out opinion then you`re simply too stupid for life.
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Female 2,769
Crakr, I am speaking purely on what I hear from their mouths. I actually listen to them quite often. I am still (for some reason) shocked by the stupid things that come out of their mouths. They talk more about his race, religion and "socialism" (race being the only true thing they talk about, but shouldn`t matter) then they do policies/politics they disagree on.

And crazy Rush yesterday was going on about "letting the gays" marry and somehow win votes from "blacks" so they (republicans) too can be elected next time. It`s not his thought here- it`s his use of words. Racist and politically incorrect. Turns me off. How many others are turned off?
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Male 13,630
Thank feck thats over, obabarama won all done finished with, no more to see here
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Male 17,511
I no longer listen to Limbaugh, mainly because I don`t listen to opinion pieces anymore from any source. I`ve developed the skills to research things for myself, just using that as an example.
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Male 17,511
HalfPintRoo: You`ve bought into the liberal spin about conservatives, problem is it`s all BS. Everyone of those people you mentioned have valued employees that are black, hispanic etc..

Bet you didn`t know that, because your liberal overlords won`t let you know and you`re too lazy to investigate it for yourself. Perhaps you should pull yourself out from the liberal umbrella of sources you listen to and investigate for yourself.

Decades ago I heard about this "Racist Bigot" named Limbaugh on am radio, they made him out to be akin to Hitler. I thought to myself, if this guy Limbaugh is so bad, how could he possibly ever be allowed on the radio and be popular too?

So I actually listened to his show for a few days and found out the BS rumors weren`t true at all. Then I found and read his first book and learned his call screener was black, his producer was jewish and a woman ran his sound-effects board.
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Female 2,769
Honestly though, crakr, the GOP is going to become extinct if they don`t start appealing to a different audience.

They need to ditch the racist Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage and others trying to claim to be the model Republican. They are just turning people away from the party with such nonsense and the older white male wont be here forever.

"The blacks" "The gays" all the comments on rape and women... They need to get a grip and pull themselves together.
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Male 17,511
Cajun: Won`t happen. Liberals will be the ones whining when Homeland Security starts spying on them through the latest NDAA rules. Say goodbye to habeas corpus, say hello to indefinite confinement.
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Male 10,855
Soon CrakrJak you and your neocon/social conservative buds are going to find yourselves without a party when the GOP does on 180 on gay marriage, immigration, and adventurist foreign policy.

Have some of this to go with your whine:
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Male 17,511
madest: [quote]You believe everything you`re told to believe by your imaginary leaders.[/quote]

You believe everything you read in HuffPo, Daily KOS and Mother Jones. I hope you like your nose ring, it`s not removable now. Let me know how that`s all worked out for you when you get put on the truck, just before they put the bolt gun to your head.

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Male 10,855
[quote]Not a single Karl Rove/Sheldon Adelson financed candidate won! That`s incredible.[/quote]

Dude, seriously Goldman Sachs backed Obama.
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Male 3,445
For all the criticism I leveled at Obama during his first term (much of it deserved), you have to admit after looking at last night`s election results that 2008 did deliver real change. Look at all the gay marriage measures that passed last night. Obama even made a point of mentioning gay rights during his victory speech. Four years ago, gay rights were not the acceptable issue they are today.

The marijuana initiatives are an example of the changing nature of our country, even though the federal government still considers them illegal. Here`s to hoping that changes soon. I`ve had enough of jailing people for such an innocuous crime.

To me, this election appears to be a referendum on the hateful politics of the Right and the obscenity of their corporate donors. Not a single Karl Rove/Sheldon Adelson financed candidate won! That`s incredible.
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Male 10,061
"Congratulations on delivering one of NOM`s quadruple thrashings, that was glorious. "

First openly gay member of the senate as well. That is a big deal.
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Female 2,228
Markust, so I saw the returns come in from your neck of the woods last night. :-) Congratulations on delivering one of NOM`s quadruple thrashings, that was glorious.
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Male 7,378
John Kerry was a war hero. He was turned into a caricature by people too chicken to serve.
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Male 7,839
markust, really? I was in high school when kerry ran, and I knew then that he was a terrible candidate. Had no issue with saying so then either.
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Male 10,338
"We wont bring up "it`s inherited"

It`s not inherited anymore!

He said he could fix it in 1 term. He didn`t, so now all of the problems are his alone.
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Male 5,185
It wasn`t until this year that I could finally admit John Kerry was a bad candidate. I wonder how long it will take for conservatives to truly admit what a horrible candidate Mitt Romney was. You could have won with Jon Huntsman.
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Male 10,061
HumanAction

"I think HG is a small business owner; we have to pay the "other half" of FICA taxes so cleverly named the "self-employment tax" "

Absolutely. Thank you. Saved me the trouble.
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Female 2,769
Republicans-

We wont bring up "it`s inherited" if you don`t bring up "He`s Muslim"
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Male 7,378
All the people complaining about Obama`s win voted for a guy who lied about the reasons for war. It was front page news and they voted for him anyway. I know how they feel today but their feelings are unjustified. Mine were real.
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Male 2,357
[quote]You MUST be doing something wrong.[/quote]
I think HG is a small business owner; we have to pay the "other half" of FICA taxes so cleverly named the "self-employment tax" (depending on how he files and accepts pay from the company). I also paid above 25%...

Kind of ridiculous as it only forces me to charge higher prices, which forces my clients to raise their prices to compensate, which forces their customers to demand higher salaries due to higher cost of goods, which forces companies to raise their prices.... I could go on.
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Male 2,711
For "Crakr and Co."

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Male 3,445
@HalfPintRoo:

What media were you watching? It seemed clear to me that Romney didn`t have much of a chance, since Obama had such a great electoral strategy.
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Male 10,855
[quote]I paid over 25% last year. What did you pay?[/quote]

You MUST be doing something wrong.
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Male 3,908
@HalfPintRoo - My thoughts exactly! When I first started hearing that sh*t I had countless talks with family, friends & coworkers and learned that damn near everyone I know as well as everyone they know supported the Obama administration. It made no sense until I read an article or a blog or something that said the media was creating the illusion of a close race just to keep people glued to their TV`s and computer monitors.
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Male 2,711
All we keep hearing from "Crakr and Co." is fearful conjecture ("Just wait until...", "You will be...", "...is going to...") with no basis in fact and which is actually contradicted by history and evidence.

That has been the GOP plan since 2001, keep everyone in fear, strangle the economy with fear. And the stupid neo-cons (yes, you Crakr) took the bait, hook, line and sinker. "Let us push through our civil-liberty-stealing agenda and our supply-side plans because you are paralyzed with fear!" Fear of terrorism, fear of another Great Depression, fear of each other... I am SICK of it.
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Male 14,331
[quote]18 you can vote, own a gun, join the army, but not drink.[/quote]

Nope 21 for a LTC(license to carry) in Mass. varies state by state.
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Male 7,378
[quote]even though Romney didn`t and paid his fair share.[/quote] -----------
You believe everything you`re told to believe by your imaginary leaders. If you knew the truth you would be outraged. I pity your mind, it`s so easily meld-able.
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Female 2,769
It`s funny because all the media I have heard for the last 2 weeks was

"Polls indicate romney has strong lead"

"Polls indicate that (whatever percentage) of Obama voters are going to vote Romney this time"

My thought is, WHO ARE YOU POLLING?!?! Not me! I`ve never been asked!

Anyway- clearly those "polls" were wrong
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Male 10,061
CrakrJak

"fair share."

13%? 13% is his fair share? I paid over 25% last year. What did you pay?
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Male 10,061
CrakrJak

"The double dip recession is on it`s way. "

Since you are such a financial guru you should start playing the stock market and day trading. I`m quite certain you could get on Etrade a few hours a day, even with your condition. Then you could get off disability.

"Keep blaming everyone else except the guy in charge, that`s been the status quo for the last four years."

It has not. I blame Bush for 2009. That`s it. Kind of like if you look at Obama`s net job gain since election it is only 194,000. However when you take away the nose dive of 2009 the net gain is 4,436,000.
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Male 17,511
madest: You think tax dodging is bad now, even though Romney didn`t and paid his fair share. Just wait until the 1% start to really dodge Obama`s tax increases, they have money for lawyers and accountants, they won`t be the ones paying for his ever increasing spending.

Punish the rich? Au Contraire, You`ll be paying for this bill and so will this countries children. You`ve been duped by `class warfare` ideology. The rich will stay rich, you will get poorer. Your myopic view of the world is going to cost you more than you know.
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Male 10,855
The Republican party has once again reminded the nation how it is the party of old white men. Their stances on social liberty has costed them the presidency.

[quote]ecause everyone knows the republicans in the house are going to dig in and not compromise. They`d rather play Russian roulette with the world economy than piss of Norquist. [/quote]

Hasty generalization, Democrats are just as likely to engage in reckless fiscal policy.

[quote]You do know that 12 is higher than 8 right? If not, use your fingers to count, I`m sure you have 12. [/quote]

Due to the Fed`s 0% interest rate, not a good sign.
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Male 10,855
[quote]They only had a few seats to begin with, lost pretty much all of their seats, as ppl that elected them in realized they`re a bunch of crazies.[/quote]

Except they had 61 seats in the House, not small at all.
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Male 17,511
HG: The double dip recession is on it`s way. Keep blaming everyone else except the guy in charge, that`s been the status quo for the last four years.
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Male 7,378
[quote]The Dow has plunged 300 points, The dollar is down and unemployment went up last month.[/quote] ------------
Once again you forget what George Bush did to Dow. What`s happening on wall street today is just the crocodile tears I planned on swimming in anyway. Good times are here and there`s nothing you can do but moan about how big a loser you and your party are. Mitt Romney got just what an unpatriotic tax dodger should expect, nothing.
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Female 2,674
"How did the media get it so wrong?"

Your media probably has the same issue ours has. They don`t want to look partisan, and they don`t want to be attacked for making a prediction. In fact, ours attacked people who did make a prediction based on facts, calling them ideologues. If you went by popular vote, yes it seemed close. But if you went by electoral college, it was pretty likely that Obama was going to win unless something horrible happened a week or 2 before the election.
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Male 871
So I was wondering, for weeks now the media has been saying over here in the UK that this would be a close run thing, that the election was too close to call but looking at the results it looks like Obama kicked Romneys arse.
How did the media get it so wrong?
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Male 10,061
Crakr

By the way, the Dow is at 12,948 today. It was 8,077 when Obama took office.

You do know that 12 is higher than 8 right? If not, use your fingers to count, I`m sure you have 12.
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Male 10,061
CrakrJak

"The Dow has plunged 300 points"

Yes. Read your own article.

"triggered by worries over the looming "fiscal cliff"

Because everyone knows the republicans in the house are going to dig in and not compromise. They`d rather play Russian roulette with the world economy than piss of Norquist.
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Female 3,726
It was so funny, I had so many German people congratulating me on the Obama win, hahahaha!
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Female 3,726
Yea, I`m not going to read through 13 pages but let me say this:

I`m a black, female soldier and I am proud that Mr. Obama is still my Commander-In-Chief! Hooah!
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Male 4,745
OK, I take it back. Screw being nice.

Boo, hoo Crakr. Would you like some cheese with that wine?

For years, many poor people have worked their asses off, at the bottom, waiting for your pathetic, "Trickle Down" economics to actually trickle. Instead, all that filtered down was $hit. Now that you have a president that actually wants to feed the middle class and build up the economy, you fight it and complain about your status? Sorry. No magical Underwear, Sky Wizard worshiping, money thief in office for you. All we can hope for is that he will be able to get some real work done and not be blindly stopped by the Republicans at every turn. Time for some real change!
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Female 1,743
Based on that, clearly the world is ending, Crakr. More than it was during the Civil War and Great Depression.
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Male 17,511
madest: If I were selfish, like you, I`d say the hell wit hit, so what. But I`m not a narcissistic socialist like you.

I have family that`ve lost jobs, friends that are unemployed, live in a state that`s been completely taken over by Chicago`s cronies and to top it off my doctors not going to get paid because Obama is taking 716 billion dollars away from medicare.

The Dow has plunged 300 points, The dollar is down and unemployment went up last month.

So you OWN THIS wreck, doubled down on failure. I don`t want to hear even one complaint for the next four years about this country or Obama from any of you liberals.
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Male 373
@ rogue_knight

18 you can vote, own a gun, join the army, but not drink.

That`s just wrong `Merica.

Also you`re asking a lot of vague rhetorical questions there.
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Male 4,891

Party in Washington State! Gay marriage and weed for everybody!
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Male 868
Who do you think the daddy didn`t hug me people voted for? Birds of a feather, nice company to keep. You have to be 21 to drink because youth lacks discretion and judgment, but we let 18 year olds vote and who won the young vote? And what does that indicate about the more logical choice?
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Male 329
Cajun: "What? 5 seats = big? What?"

The teaparty != all republicans. It`s a small subsection. They only had a few seats to begin with, lost pretty much all of their seats, as ppl that elected them in realized they`re a bunch of crazies. Having them out means that there is a chance the other republicans will compromise, instead of drawing impossibly stupid lines in the sand and not backing down on anything (no matter how stupid). The fact that those seats were lost to dems, may not change the balance of power, but it does help.. maybe this congress will actually get something meaningful passed.
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Female 2,769
I`m siting here waiting for noon- waiting for Rush`s first words- it`s going to be so WICKED ;)
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Male 2,357
@Cajun: Perhaps most disappointing is the fact that Stein somehow managed to convince almost 400,000 Americans that she should be president.

Either way, Johnson was a step in the right direction. He had almost 3x the number of votes as Bob Barr did in 2008.
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Male 14,331
Also will Obama care also cover video games and Doritos with my future perscription??? IT`S PART OF MY THERAPY!!
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Male 4,745
@sparki1980,
Oh, I agree...I was just trying to be nice.
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Male 1,442
Wake up in the morning to find that Obama won and some states made legal weed and gay marriage. Kudos!

Reading the Rep posts on here was the icing on a delicious cake. Don`t feel bad guys, he has a back up plan!
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Male 878
Black guy given worst job in America - again. It`s already sent his hair gray. I hate to think how old he will look after another four years.
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Female 373
Woot it is over, can we go back to being civil casual acquaintances now.
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Male 10,855
Tea party didn`t even support Mitt Romney, so I don`t understand that assertion.
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Male 329
"Secondly: As much as I`d like to have seen Obama kick ass, it really was close. I may not agree with the Republican`s politics, but I have to admit that they ran a good race." - patchouly

It was not really close. Infact, it was an ass whooping. Popular vote always looks close but was 2.5M diff or so... which is a decent amount. But where it counts, in electoral votes.. Pre-Election you could easily project a number of states views giving 237 to Obama and 206 to Romney. The "battleground states" (Nevada, Col, Iowa, Wisc, Ohio, Virginia, Florida & New Hamp) were the only ones that weren`t heavily leaning either way. Minus my clusterfrak here in Florida (still counting) Obama won ALL the others.

It did seem close at 10PM EST, but west coast (including the 55 votes for the liberal leaning Cali) hadn`t closed and eastern/central states that were closed and leaning Romney had only finished counting the smaller rural votes (which tend to lean ri
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Male 10,855
[quote]The tea party lost BIG, giving up a lot of seats to Dems[/quote]

What? 5 seats = big? What?
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Male 7,378
I need a pen pal from Colorado or Washington.
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Male 329
"4 more years of Obama butting heads with a Republican house."

Most of the worst headbutters in the house are gone. The tea party lost BIG, giving up a lot of seats to Dems. Might still be Rep majority, but I think having those extreme hardliners out will make compromise a little easier.
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Male 10,855
[quote]The one thing I am disappointed about is the lack of support Johnson received. I was very sure he was going to get 5% easily.[/quote]

Well there`s plenty of Libertarian victory we can celebrate:
Gary Johnson takes 1.1% of the popular vote
Colorado and Washington have legalized marijuana
Maine and Maryland have legalized Gay Marriage
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Male 14,331
Now that two states have legalized weed can we just do it accross the entire country please??? Also any doctors from MA here???
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Male 7,378
Let`s not forget, today is Canadian Cat lovers day of shame. Haha!
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Male 14,331
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET BACK TO THE FUNNEHZ NOW!!
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Male 10,855
[quote]Gay marriage won in my state Washington by popular vote. Kind of kills your stupid bigot argument (talking to the stupid bigots). Wait, the other two states that had gay marriage on the ballots also chose love and tolerance by popular vote?[/quote]


While I didn`t support either candidate, this is certainly a result I am proud of. Mazel Tov, motha-fu<ka!
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Male 2,357
[quote]I never ever ever ever ever had a doubt. Not one single bit.[/quote]
I was guilty halfway throught the counting... I should have stuck to my initial prediction that Obama was going to win easily.

While I would have preferred Romney, I think the variation between the two is almost negligible. Either way, here is to hoping that the GOP gets the message that we are all sick of their religion and the varied intolerance it brings.

The one thing I am disappointed about is the lack of support Johnson received. I was very sure he was going to get 5% easily.
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Male 10,338
No more politics for at least 2 years. Deal?

Get rid of that category Fancy! lol.
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Male 373
Poor Crakrjak, he doth not abide.
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Male 5,811
Now back to business I-A-B! Where are the half-naked women and fail compilations?!?!
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Male 5,811
[quote]Celebrate today libtards, for it`s hell to pay tomorrow. I`m not being bitter, I`m being realistic.[/quote]
I might have actually believed that if you hadn`t prefaced your comment with "libtards." Suck on your sour grapes @Crakr, you`re just a petulant child who didn`t get his way and is desperately trying to contain his tantrum.
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Male 4,745
First thing: I`m very happy to see Obama won, congratulations to the Democrats!

Secondly: As much as I`d like to have seen Obama kick ass, it really was close. I may not agree with the Republican`s politics, but I have to admit that they ran a good race.
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Male 5,189
Im guessing its safe to start visiting daily again?
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Male 7,378
[quote]I`m being realistic. Friends and family continue to be hurt financially because of Obama.[/quote] ---------
Just hyperbole. You`re life won`t change one iota. You were suckin on the govt nipple back when Bush was president and you`ll be suckin on the government nipple through Obama`s presidency. Nothing will change for you but for the rest of us; Sanity rules!
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Female 280
You won`t believe how many of my friends on Facebook are now saying the the world`s is going to end. Seriously guys. Seriously?
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Male 5,094
Greetings and congratulations from Sweden! I would have preferred a Green Party victory, but I`ll take what I can get.
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Male 5,185
Gay marriage won in my state Washington by popular vote. Kind of kills your stupid bigot argument (talking to the stupid bigots). Wait, the other two states that had gay marriage on the ballots also chose love and tolerance by popular vote? My grandma loved me. My husband`s grandpa loved me for the three wonderful months I got to spend with him. Both knew all of me. Lose the hate and you can love the gay person you already know. He is your doctor, your lawyer, your street sweeper, he is anyone. You will only know him/her if you quit believing into hate.
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Male 17,511
Celebrate today libtards, for it`s hell to pay tomorrow.

I`m not being bitter, I`m being realistic. Friends and family continue to be hurt financially because of Obama.

Enjoy eating your turd sandwich the next four years.

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Male 5,185
I ripped Washington DC a mother f*cking new one tonight. What a fun trip. I tripped balls tonight. Mother f*cking balls. The Vietnam Statues came to life. Only question is why is Martin Luther King Jr`s statue white? Isn`t there a coca marble? Back to Obama. I never ever ever ever ever had a doubt. Not one single bit. Obama was never going to lose this. It was always going to be a landslide. The media just played people for ratings. This thing was done three months ago. Sorry cons, you don`t get to steal Obama`s credit for getting us out of the recession while your representatives did everything to block his every move. I`m a broken record but love and tolerance won once again.
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Male 10,855
Even with Florida it wouldn`t be like the victoy Obama recieved in `08.

On the other hand, Gary Johnson did not cost Romney the election. Romney just couldn`t seal the deal PERIOD.

On one last note I`ll announce yet another avatar change. Goodbye old:
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Male 4,546
"At least it wasn`t a landslide."

Fox (via Dick Morris) was predicting a Romney win 325-213. Everyone at Fox was calling that a landslide.

If Obama takes Florida, it`s a landslide by anyone`s standards. It`s already a landslide by common sense.
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Male 4,546
Spending before great depression: 10%.
Spending during great depression: 20%.
Spending after great depression: 50%.
Top Tax Rate: 63%.

Now compare:
Spending before current recession: 35%
Spending during/after recession: 42%
Top tax rate: 35%.

Remember when I said compare? There are ways you get out of a recession. It`s not by spending less and taxing less.

Furthermore Reagan style tax cuts are permanent hits to the deficit. A spending stimulus is a temporary hit to the deficit.

Also, why 4 year increments Andrew? Obama increased spending in the first year to stem the collapse, then spending DIDN`T increase, it lowered the next year, then stabilized after that.

These "never ending increases" stopped increasing with Obama.
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Male 6,737
Came back to this lil` site just to thank you all for making the correct decision. Thanks IAB, I love you all. ;)
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Male 345
So proud of my country and president, the American people made a statement today and not just in the presidential election.
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Male 10,061
madest

You can (and I can enjoy it a little) but it just isn`t attractive. ;)
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Male 7,378
Oh no I can gloat. In fact I promised I would. "America would not elect a tax dodger for president" I said over and over again. They need this smack down. The republican party will support any turd that`s propped up before them. There`s not a republican alive that hasn`t called Mitt Romney a pile of crap so yeah I`m in full gloat move. Smite me Holy God I deserve it.
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Male 10,338
You broke the layout Madest.

What he said isn`t really "dumb", it`s just different than you.

Do you treat all people that are different than you this way?

Are you racist?

poo. I`m sorry. I really gotta get to bed. Peace guys. Peace.
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Male 10,061
madest

Yes. I also remember someone telling me they`d be laughing at my tears tonight. But gloating is never attractive. We know what was said. They know what was said. Let`s move forward.
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Male 7,378
We`ll just put this here as a reminder of some of the dumb things that pass through here:

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Male 10,338
Ahhh HG, Lillian and Davy, you know how the internet is lol.
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Male 10,338
IAB needs like buttons. Thanks for the kind words. You guys really do rock, even if some of you are stupid. ;)

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Male 2,578
I say nothing about Romney, I`m not here to defend him.

Tax revenue in 2000 was about 2 trillion. Spending was 1.8 trillion.

2004 - Revenue: 1.8 trillion. Spending 2.2 trillion.

2008 - Revenue: 2.7 trillion. Spending 2.9 trillion

2012 - Revenue: 2.4 trillion. 3.8 trillion

More tax money isn`t needed to fund the endless increases. Life was good in the 90`s and we were only spending 1.8 trillion. Now we need to spend more than double or it`s total armageddon?

And we are certainly spending more on this recession than in the past. Our debt-gdp ratio is flirting with its WW2 all time high - and it will then pass it - and we never even fought a global war like World War 2, nor did we get the few benefits of the WW2 spending (Gov`t spending that caused a sharp recession in the 40`s so it wasn`t even that good).

I don`t understand, are you asserting that we are spending less than on the dot com bubble? I don`t see it.
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Lillian

"I saw your degree before you removed it AJ, I don`t think it`s anything to be ashamed of and I don`t think IABers will think badly of you for it."

I agree totally. I saw it before you edited it out. I would defend you if anyone tried to bash you for that. It is a completely respectable degree. However if you choose to keep it secret I will respect that.
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Male 12,138
Actually, I saw it before you withdrew it AJ (not sure what shame there is in that?). Either way, I hope things pick up for you (politics aside), sincerely. On that note, I`m bailing out. Bed time.

Love and bum-sex,

Davy out.
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Male 10,338
Good night all. I guess I will just have to pick up the pieces and figure everything out tomorrow.

I wonder how long before my health insurance goes up again, for the third time in 2 years?

I`ll try to be nicer from now on. What`s the point of being confrontational now, right?
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Female 2,674
I saw your degree before you removed it AJ, I don`t think it`s anything to be ashamed of and I don`t think IABers will think badly of you for it. Certain jobs have been hit harder than others, but it`s not really a result of having Obama for president. I`m sure you could easily trace the issue back to something that began before he took office, so to throw it all on him doesn`t seem logical.
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Male 10,338
It`s a possibility HG.

My wife is about to graduate with the same degree as well. We may just have to do that.

Birmingham is a huge financial center. You`d think there would be opportunities here.
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Male 10,338
(decided not to release degree, for whatever it is, I will be roasted)

I`ve literally put in over 200 (private sector) applications in the last 3 years. No-one is hiring, or they are suspending regular hiring.

Most told me to try again after the elections.
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Male 10,061
auburnjunky

Have you ever thought of moving out of the south and moving where business and financial jobs are flourishing?

I have a design degree, if I would have stayed in the midwest where i was born I would be broke right now, not a doubt in my mind.
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AJ

"This has been the worst 4 years of my life (financially)."

There are people that profited greatly during the great depression. There are people who lost everything during the Clinton economic boom. I feel for you and I hope things get better for you but picking one person`s experience is anecdotal at best. Does all the data I have posted about how things have gotten better across the board mean nothing to you?

I hope your life improves in the next 4 years. I just don`t want 4 years of half this country rooting for failure like they did the last 4.
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Male 10,338
I didn`t even compare the two. I said he is a good motivational speaker. So is Tony Robbins.

I meant the Soooooooooooooooooul Train.
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Male 12,138
AJ, not a loaded question, but what`s your degree in that`s now worthless for another 4 years? Sincerely, just curious.
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Male 7,378
Can I get a big HA HA at the conservative cabal here at IAB? Another "I told you so" is in order. Man I`m on an egg roll as late. Ouch CJ, AJ, 5Cats. Eat that.
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Male 1,048
I do not like that exxon mobile ad. It is illogical.
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Male 2,711
You wouldn`t recognize the truth if you choked on it, and I scrape better than you off the bottom of my shoe. Likening our President to Hitler is as far from truth as it is possible to get, so allow me to repeat myself. F.U.C.K. YOU!
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Male 10,338
I hope and pray that The President, whoever that may be at any given time, will do his best to do the will of the people of this country.

That`s wrong now?
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Male 10,338
Not hoping. I am fearful of it.

This has been the worst 4 years of my life (financially).

I can`t imagine another 4.
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Male 771
HolyGod, they know nothing about being real Americans.
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Male 4,891

DE*COR*UM - Noun
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Male 10,338
Damn Chalket. Way to take it to heart.

Truth hurts maybe?

@HolyGod: Yeah it was. Sorry, I was using today`s Electoral count. I said 528-10.
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AJ

It is really disheartening. I can tell you in all honesty that if Romney would have won I would be on here saying how dissapointed I am but hoping I was wrong and hoping things can better.

You and Crakr and 5Cats are already condemning the country and hoping for failure. It is disgusting.
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Male 2,711
F.U.C.K YOU AJ. Just f.u.c.k you. Get your disgusting ass UNDER the train and do us all a favor.

(sorry HG)
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Male 10,061
AuburnJinky

"No. 537-1 is a landslide."

First, it was 525 to 13. Second, that wasn`t a landslide, that was getting bent over a table and sodomized for 3 days.

332 to 206 is a landslide.
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Male 10,338
Yep. He sure can.

They say Hitler was a very motivating speaker as well.

Maybe I should just go ahead and get on the train.
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Male 10,338
No. 528-10 is a landslide.

Reagan `84.

The good years. (Granted, the mid/late 90`s were too)
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Male 10,061
God DAMN can this guy give a speech.
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Male 10,061
sutra46

You pick the song. I`m going to be up all night.
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Male 10,061
AuburnJunky

"At least it wasn`t a landslide."

332 to 206 is a massive landslide. Obama basically won EVERY state he campaigned in.

"Here`s to 4 more years of being poor, and my degree being worthless."

Not to be mean, but I make retarded money working for myself and my degree is working great. Maybe the problem is you and not Obama?
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Male 4,546
Andrew: We have less recession spending (adjusted for inflation etc) than during any other recession, and one of the lowest tax rates.

You have obstruction from the reps. You have a slow recovery.

But even the studies Romney cited (incorrectly) to show how good he`d be on jobs, on his website, say he will do worse than Obama`s record over the last 4 years.
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Female 2,549
:-) sorry am late for the party!
Had to put on my rock & frock

Holygod may I have this dance please :-)
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Male 10,338
At least it wasn`t a landslide.

Oh well. Here`s to 4 more years of being poor, and my degree being worthless.
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Male 2,578
HolyGod, most would not argue that it has been getting worse since 2009. However, people are arguing that the economic progress exists only because of 6 trillion of deficit spending under Obama (enough to fight World War 2 and then some, or enough for a few New Deals). And even with that, we still have a $hitty growth rate.

This is combined with the Bush deficit spending to get us out of this recession that totals to somewhere near 8 trillion. By 2016, we will have 22 trillion in debt. That`s about a 14 trill increase between the both of them to get us out of this recession.

The best part? All the gains are artificially created by this false demand the government has created with 8 trill in deficit spending. It will all come crashing down.
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Male 2,711
All I can say is, I am glad as hell that this is finally over, and with a happy ending! Night all, now let`s get on with our lives.
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Male 55
Hahaha.

CrakrJak: peace out. Don`t let the door hit you.
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Male 1,268
So, how much money did you lose betting Romney with the offshore books, Crakr? I`d tell you how much I made betting the year long favorite, but that just seems rude.

Polls are silly. This was never a close election, the electoral favored Obama throughout.
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Male 4,546
That`s part of why I stopped coming here. Every graph, chart, poll, financial data, etc, met with a link to some blog, and outright denials of flat out facts.

Bringing facts down to the level of opinions is a sad sad state for the human mind to be in. I`ve even had to argue with people about how to use a dictionary. It`s absurd.
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Male 2,711
I had to switch from Faux just because I couldn`t stand to hear one more word from Rove. He is thoroughly disgusting.
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Male 4,546
Hah! Karl Rove on Fex saying Romney`s concession doesn`t mean he has lost!

I really didn`t think it would be this entertaining! :)
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Male 10,061
Baalthazaq

I have posted reams of charts, figures, hard data of the absolute freefall our economy was in on Jan 20 2009. How it continued to crash for another year and since has been getting better in almost EVERY way.

OldOllie, Crakr, 5Ctas, MeGrendel, DromEd, PapaJohn, and the rest couldn`t care less. Facts have a well known liberal bias.
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Male 2,711
Baalth: I agree with HG in welcoming you back. Your comment is spot on and well said. Saved me the trouble of saying it less eloquently. Thanks!
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Female 1,743
Although, it`s too late. Crakr took his bat and his ball and went home, guys. He doesn`t wanna play anymore.
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Male 4,891

"Nobody talk s.hit to the losers. Let`s have decorum."

Good, good! Let the hate flow thru you. Come on down, I will keep you company.

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Male 4,546
"His blaming of Bush was BS. "

Except he rarely did.

Mentioning history is not "blaming bush".

Mentioning that some guy set fire to your house is very important. Without him, the firefighters are just some non-nice individuals getting all your stuff wet.

That`s why you mention Bush. The country was losing 750K jobs per month that Obama had to make up. It took him 4 years to fix Bush`s 8. Under Obama he turned that around to a positive number every month.

That`s context. Something you`re desperate to forget.
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Male 10,061
CrakrJak

You really are just a sad pathetic little man that contributes nothing to society but your bile and your rhetoric.
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Male 2,711
Crakr: You`re going to have a coronary if you keep up that degree of bitterness and cynicism for another 4 years. As HG has pointed out many times, the last 4 years have shown improvement in nearly every metric conceivable, albeit more slowly than we`d like (you blame Obama, we blame GOP obstruction). I respectfully suggest you try to be a bit more optimistic. I assure you, the next 4 years will not be disastrous, it`s not the end of the world (assuming we survive 12/21/12, of course). Can you do that? Can you try to be a little less negative and caustic?
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Male 392
So, can I assume that Big Bird is safe?
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Male 3,445
It`s a bit of a cliche, but it`s heartening to live in a country where the election loser is always grateful and well-wishing in defeat, even when we`re at our most divided.
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Male 10,061
Romney`s supporters are being much more respectful during this concession speech than McCain`s 4 years ago.

Nobody booed Obama this time.
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Male 12,138
[quote]Enough of this, I`m out. Enjoy the hell this country will be for the next 4 years, you deserve it. [/quote]
Once again, Crakrjak concedes defeat graciously.

Wanker.
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Male 10,061
This was a WAY bigger blowout than I thought in my wildest dreams.
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Male 17,511
Enough of this, I`m out.

Enjoy the hell this country will be for the next 4 years, you deserve it.
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Male 4,546
Rove Melting down on Fox. Trump melting down on twitter.

One screaming at the math, one calling for revolution.
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Male 17,511
Baal: I hope you enjoy living next to a nuclear armed Iran, because Obama has been a wuss on that subject.

I`m not `rooting` for his failure. He was a failure to begin with and it`s only going to get worse. His blaming of Bush was BS.

Who will be to blame now? All of you that didn`t learn your lesson and voted for him again.
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Male 10,061
FoolsPrussia

Or the healthcare initiative that was a shell of what Obama really wanted?
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Male 3,445
Obama compromised a lot. In fact, that`s why liberals were down on him for a while. Or have we forgotten about the debt ceiling situation, in which Obama cut a deal that pissed of progressives?
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Male 546
Looks like Romney finally conceded. Speeches soon.
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Female 1,743
Sigh, no. Four years is not a lame duck president.

I get that you`re rather pessimistic right now, and I understand. I remember feeling this way when Bush won his re-election. I can sympathize.
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Male 3,445
Romney on his way to the hall to deliver his concession speech.
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Male 4,546
In fact remember all the times Republicans told the public "Obama compromising shows how weak he is"?

So. Are you saying Obama is a strong leader, or that he didn`t reach across the aisle? You cannot have it both ways Crakr.

You`ve tried as long as I`ve known you to call Obama a Wall Street supporting communist, and a warmongering isolationist.

You need to drop the multiple personality Obama and just at the very least decide which polar opposite you think he is.
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Female 2,674
"no willingness to work with republicans"

You mean republicans being not willing to work with him, right? o.o;
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Male 17,511
nubblins: Obama can`t be elected a third time, this was his last election. With no control over the House, and no willingness to work with republicans, nothing will get done. Thus `lame duck`.
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Male 4,546
"Obama said he`d work across the aisle, but he hasn`t in the last 2 years"

He has pushed heritage foundation ideas the whole time.

Republicans haven`t reached back. Republicans declared no compromise while Obama declared compromise.

Democrats offered more cuts than Republicans could think to ask for when it came to specifics.

Wake up Crakr. Stop lying to me. Stop lying to IAB. Stop lying to yourself.

I know you`re upset right now, but this is your chance to join reality.
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Female 1,743
Of their last session, I should say.


It`s late and I`m too tired, sorry >.<
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Male 10,061
Craker

"Obama is going to be a lame duck for the next 4 years."

Come on man. He just got reelected and you are already rooting for his failure. How is that patriotic?

"Expect more gridlock"

Yes, because of people like you.
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Female 1,743
I think you`re confusing the term `lame duck` Crakr. Lame ducks are those who are at the end of their term and can`t be re-elected, and already have had someone voted in to their seat. It lasts the period between election day and the day they leave office, not four years. :\
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Female 2,674
Just to randomly interject: My dad and I are almost polar opposites, including in politics. He`s a pro life conservative anti-gay tea partier, etc. Even he was celebrating Obama`s win because he didn`t think Romney would do any good for this country and couldn`t support him. It was shocking to see him happy about Obama for once... very shocking... but I`m sure he`s not alone in his thoughts.
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Male 10,061
Why does everyone (CNN and FOX) keep saying "no president has ever been re-elected with unemployment above 7.1%"?

Reagan was re-elected with unemployment at 7.4%.
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Male 17,511
Baal: Obama is going to be a lame duck for the next 4 years. Republicans still control the House of Representatives. Obama said he`d work across the aisle, but he hasn`t in the last 2 years, he won`t in the next 4 either. Expect more gridlock and expect the investigations into Holder and the Benghazi debacle to continue.
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Male 10,061
Baalthazaq

You should join us more often. You articulate what I`m thinking beautifully and it saves me the trouble of typing it.

:)
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Male 4,546
Old Ollie have been living in a fantasy land for so long it is unreal.

Remember, your guys were talking about a Romney landslide. They told Nate silver his 96% chance Obama wins made him an ideologue.

Well it turns out he was right. Your guys were wrong. On the math. You tried to argue against raw numbers.

Now, seriously, run along. Bubble burst. You can`t still believe the fantasy. All the so called "liberal media" tried to placate you by using kid gloves on you and telling you this race was "razor tight" because "Republicans say one thing, Democrats say another".

What the Democrats were saying though, was truth, and what the Republicans were saying they got from fictions they invented and put in empty chairs.

Obama is an American. Obama is a Christian. Obama is a moderate. You`re the crazy ones.
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Female 2,769
Night Cobra. I`m out too. Night all.
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Male 2,711
He`s waiting for Tagg to save Ohio for him.
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Male 1,015
"Obama now has the popular vote as well... by 20k or so." Great, so the reps will stop whining
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Male 10,061
What`s the hold up on the concession?

Even if Romney wins Virginia AND Florida AND Ohio (even though he is losing all 3) he STILL loses.
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Male 7,839
Oh, and "Four More Years!!" and all that jazz.
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Male 1,015
Funny how republicans claim they should win because of the popular vote, but forget what happened in 2000
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Male 12,138
vv What`s he waiting for? Kolob to rise above the horizon? Just get on with it Romney, get this night over with!
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Male 2,711
Obama now has the popular vote as well... by 20k or so.
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Male 7,839
Its getting late and I have to get up for work in a few hours, so i am going to call it a night. Goodnight all.
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Male 546
300 hundred votes...holy crap that is crazy close. If the republican party hadn`t alienated almost every minority group they could have easily dominated this election.
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Female 2,769
davy, just waiting for Mitt`s phone call *yawn*
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Male 3,445
`When`s the speeches happening? It`s getting late here, I need to get to bed...`

Romney hasn`t conceded yet, so you`d have to wait for that.
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Male 12,138
When`s the speeches happening? It`s getting late here, I need to get to bed...
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Male 10,061
OMG

With 73% reporting and 100 Million votes in the popular vote is separated by 300 votes.

300! That is barely enough people to stop the Persians.
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Female 1,743
Trump said that Richard Belzer has no talent.
Yep, he`s lost it.
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Male 3,445
Ha, I like how Trump`s twitter background is his douchy Scottish golf course that pissed off all the locals.
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Male 10,061
Trump:

"We can`t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided! "

hahahaha holy s.hit.
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Male 2,711
"Donald Trump is losing his mind on Twitter."
Trump lost his mind years ago, must have bought another.
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Female 2,769
FP, do I have to be a twitter user to see that? I`d love to read some of that awesomeness.

I like how FOX just worded this: (paraphrasing) "It will be interesting to see if Romney wins with popular vote, if the republican party gets shoe on the other foot disease"
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Male 10,061
Wow. It looks like it is going to be:
Obama: 332
Romney: 206

That is a total asswhopping considering how long we`ve been hearing that it was going to be sooooooo close.

No wonder Obama chilled out and played ball today.
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Male 17,511
Cobra: I agree, it does seem to be a lost cause now that Nevada and Colorado have been claimed.

Ollie: Conservatives, like us, will survive. It`s just going to get tougher for these 20 somethings that voted for Obama. Perhaps after another 4 years of stagnation, high unemployment and the inflation that`s soon to come. Maybe, just maybe it`ll sink in and in 2016 they`ll be fed up enough to vote for some real change.
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Male 3,445
Donald Trump is losing his mind on Twitter.
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Male 2,711
I said I agree, but we all know their favorite phrase has been the conjecture "But if <fill in blank> had done it the Libtards and liberal media would all be <fill in blank>!" Just turning that around on `em. :)

Oh great... Ollie has chimed in. Welcome, Mr. Cheerful!
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Male 5,811
[quote]Not when you have to deal with those death panels.[/quote]
HMOs?
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Male 3,445
`I`ll still do fine`

Not when you have to deal with those death panels.
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Male 4,546
I`ve been telling Ollie he`s wrong for years.

Then waiting, then being proved right.

Then OldOllie doesn`t change.

So here we go again.
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Male 10,061
OldOllie

It amazes me that you feel Obama has been so drastically different than other presidents before him. I just don`t see it. I think he is more conservative than Clinton and the country survived Clinton JUST fine.
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Female 1,743
HolyGod, I know you told us to have class, but OldOllie is really pushing the urge to spam this thread with photos of sad Romney voters...

:(

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Male 5,811
Graceful as always @Ollie. I think you`re being a little over-dramatic, however I commend you on your restraint by not saying "liberal f*cktards."
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Male 7,839
Crakr, I have no issue with waiting for all the votes to be counted. My only argument with you is that Ohio is not the only state you need to worry about.
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Female 2,769
Thanks, cobra, that will end my curiosity.
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Male 15,832
We survived 4 years of Obama.

We cannot survive another 4 years with a majority who would vote to reelect him.

The USA, as a free constitutional republic, is history. We are now officially a social democracy, which means, like Europe, we are doomed to chronic unemployment, stifling debt, hyperinflation, confiscatory taxes, strangling regulations, cronyism, corruption, and all-around incompetence. :-|

I`ll still do fine, but for all you 20-somethings who voted for him, you`re about to get exactly what you deserve.
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Male 3,445
`Genuine conservatives beating out tea partiers, lefter leaning Democrats beating out centrists.`

The Republican party has to change, or it won`t stand a chance in future elections. They can`t just keep playing to the white male vote, because that`s not enough to win anymore. The electorate is changing rapidly.

Hopefully, that means we`ll go back to having a more moderate Republican party.
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Male 17,511
Either way, this doesn`t give either candidate any kind of mandate. We still have big cuts coming at the end of the year and nothing tonight changed the House or Senate to either party.
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Male 10,061
CrakrJak

You`re not being unreasonable. However suggesting that Obama had contacts in the media call it early, particularly at FOX News, is kinda bats.hit crazy.

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Female 2,769
Out of all of this, one thing I`ll say though: I would vote for Chris Christie. Nice to see some non-partisan politics for once.

Yes, it was refreshing! Speaks his mind and shows that the people of his state come FIRST.
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Male 7,839
halfpint, there are 4 possible colors. Here are what they are, and what they mean;
Blue/grey: IAB member
Green: Content Moderator
Red: Site Moderator
Yellow: Executives

Dont know a better way to describe yellow. It was originally just Fancy, then there was Fancys asst., etc. So it appears to be the higher ups.
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Male 17,511
Cobra and others: If Obama leads after Ohio has 90%, then I`ll say he`s won. But I want to see the votes counted first, there should be no harm in waiting for an hour for that to occur.

I`m not being stubborn, I just want to see the real count. I don`t see how that`s being unreasonable in anyway.
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Male 4,546
I dunno when it turned green but I`ve not been moderating for months, I`ve been touring, and working on some stuff. :)

Not only did he win, left wing candidates are doing better than right, even within their own parties. Genuine conservatives beating out tea partiers, lefter leaning Democrats beating out centrists.

Great news for America. Hopefully that will signal an end to the deadlock you`ve been having.

Out of all of this, one thing I`ll say though: I would vote for Chris Christie. Nice to see some non-partisan politics for once.
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Male 10,061
El_Chinche

"Colorado voters just legalized marijuana for recreational use for anybody over the age 21."

That is great for progress, but it is still illegal in the US so the DEA can arrest anybody in Colorado even if it is legal there.
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Male 1,421
Thank you US citizens, there`s some hope for you. Romney would`ve bankrupt your beautiful country.. And go Colorado!
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Female 2,769
Baalthazaq

Whoa. How the f.uck is your name green? What does green mean?

I`ve asked this before... I`d love to know. I want my pink please thank you
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Male 3,445
I think Obama will have a slim popular vote victory when all is said any done.
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Male 546
In other good news, Colorado voters just legalized marijuana for recreational use for anybody over the age 21.
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Male 10,061
turdburglar

"Now that both partys have been screwed by the electorial college"

California still has a lot to report. I think the popular vote will go to Obama, but it won`t be the massive win the electoral college is going to be.
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Male 3,445
Nice to see you Baal.
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Male 7,839
Crakr, you seem to be stuck on Ohio. Obama doesnt actually need Ohio to win.
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Female 2,674
CJ, even if Obama doesn`t get Ohio, Obama`s gonna win.
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Male 7,839
Hey Baal, long time no see. How have you been? and, when did you rank down to green?
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Male 17,511
Ohio 78% Reporting
Obama 49% 2,275,618
Mitt Romney 49% 2,295,003

+20,000 for Romney... Hmmmm
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Male 10,061
chalket

"try to imagine some of the s.hit we`d be hearing right now if it had gone the other way."

I know EXACTLY what we`d be hearing. We were told repeatedly that they would be laughing at our tears tonight. Not the point. We can be better than that.
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Male 5,811
@HG: This.
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Male 7,839
chalket, but we are showing that we are better than that.
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Male 5,811
@Chalket: Hey now, I actually think they`d be just as good, just more vocal than right now.
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Baalthazaq

Whoa. How the f.uck is your name green? What does green mean?
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Male 2,711
HG: I respect that you`d like to keep some decorum, and I agree, but try to imagine some of the s.hit we`d be hearing right now if it had gone the other way.
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Crakr

"Within 1500 votes, as of right now."

Yes. But all the votes out are in urban areas that are voting hugely Obama.
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Male 4,546
I predicted 303-235 on my FB. Looks like I predicted too low.

Also, hello everyone.
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Male 546
@HolyGod
Yeah, sorry my bad, I realize it`s in bad taste. Just had to get that out of my system.
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Male 3,445
And Obama just won Nevada. That`s 290. He still wins even if Ohio goes Romney.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Is anyone surprised that Akin and Murdoch both lost their respective races?[/quote]
Well, considering those were legitimate wins, they should consider the loss a gift from God.
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Male 4,891
Now that both partys have been screwed by the electorial college, is there any hope to change it?
Probably not.

I`m sure no one cares but...
Legal pot is winning in WA. State...First state make it completely legal for average joe.

Also, Washington is trying to pass gay marriage (first to pass with a VOTE)...It`s winning so far.
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Female 1,743
Is anyone surprised that Akin and Murdoch both lost their respective races?
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Male 227
oh yea, and weed is now legal in colorado.
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Male 3,445
Even if Obama loses Ohio in the end, he only needs Nevada to win since Colorado went to him as well.
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Male 3,667
Crackr, c`mon man, I don`t like Obama either, but Fox did call Ohio his before CNN.

I can`t say when MSNBC called it, but Fox definitely called it before CNN.

I will admit, it looks like Romney is catching up in Ohio, but quickly losing Virginia.
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Male 7,839
HG, I`m with you on the whole humility front. However, this is the internet, so you cannot expect everyone to play nice.
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Male 3,445
The popular vote count is starting to tighten as well.
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Male 17,511
Ohio 77% reporting
Obama 49% 2,248,065
Mitt Romney 49% 2,246,541

Within 1500 votes, as of right now.
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Female 2,769
HolyGod- control your people!
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Male 3,445
I was just a few months too young to vote in the 2000 election. That bothered me, though it wouldn`t have mattered since it`s just California.
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Male 5,811
[quote]I believe it to be wiser to wait until the votes are really counted[/quote]
So what do you want to talk about until then? I know, we could talk about how fast children grow up, and before you know it, they`re out of the house.
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El_Chinche

Don`t do that s.hit please. Use class.
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Female 2,674
@FP (and everyone else :3), thank you :D I was a couple months too young to vote in 2008 which kinda bummed me out and the results from the 2010 voting weren`t too great for my state sooo I`m much happier this year :P
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Male 546
@CrakrJak

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Male 771
CrakrJak will never admit defeat cuz that is admitting his stupidity.
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Male 17,511
Davy: Within recent memory, we`ve had a state called early before. I believe it to be wiser to wait until the votes are really counted.
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Female 2,769
lillian! Congrats!
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Crackr

"HG: Fox didn`t make the call for Ohio first, Fox is just following"

Once again you are wrong. I was flipping back and forth between FOX, MSNBC, and CNN. FOX called it several minutes before the other two.

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Male 7,839
lillian, congratulations on your first presidential vote. That also goes for any other IABers that voted in the presidential election for the first time this year; welcome to the show.
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Female 1,743
lol @ that pic, patchgrabber.


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Male 3,445
Obama is now leading in Virginia, Florida, Nevada, and Colorado too.
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Male 3,445
@Lillian: Congrats on your first presidential election! Mine was for Kerry...that one wasn`t so good.
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Male 12,138
[quote]There was a rumor earlier today that Obama would use his contacts in the media to make an early call for him to win.

Perhaps this underhanded plan is taking place.[/quote]
Oh, for f*ck sake. Can`t you be gracious and admit honest defeat for once in your life CJ?
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@crakr: I will see after I put on my Crakrglasses:


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HG: Fox didn`t make the call for Ohio first, Fox is just following
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Female 2,674
The 3+ hour wait to vote in my first presidential election, causing me to completely miss having lunch because I went in between two classes, and I waited that whole time despite having the flu outside in the heat... still very worth it. I`m happy not only with the presidential results but also senate/house and amendment results for my state :D
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Crakr- you`re joking right? FOX news. FOX. They called it.

FP- to be far, when I heard it, it was actually worded "a high up person in the Romney Campaign said it was too early to call Ohio" I was just being lazy in my typing.
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CrakrJak

"Obama would use his contacts in the media to make an early call"

His contacts at FOX News? Are you f.ucking kidding me?
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patchgrabber: We`ll see.
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Male 4,891

Did crakr just make a joke?
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Female 1,743
Crakr, your tinfoil hat is showing.
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I do find it funny that the popular vote says otherwise. No matter how people try to explain it to me, I just can`t understand it.
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Male 5,811
[quote]There was a rumor earlier today that Obama would use his contacts in the media to make an early call for him to win.

Perhaps this underhanded plan is taking place.[/quote]
His friends...at Fox News?
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Male 3,445
@HalfPintRoo: Since I posted that, it looks like it`s changed. Romney`s campaign is now holding off on surrender for the moment.

Even if Ohio goes Romney, Obama will still probably get to 270.
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Male 17,511
There was a rumor earlier today that Obama would use his contacts in the media to make an early call for him to win.

Perhaps this underhanded plan is taking place.
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Male 10,061
FOX heading to the decision desk to "interrogate" them.
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Male 613
Great, 4 more years of `It`s Bushes fault,
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Male 10,061
It looks like Obama may lose the popular vote and win a huge electoral margin.

You still like the electoral college Crakr?
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Male 4,891

5cats - Admit it, you`re happy. If Romney had won, who would you blame when everything keeps getting worse from here?

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Male 3,445
Disregard my last comment. Romney is now questioning it.
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El Chinche

"Anyone got fox news on?"

They are questioning Ohio`s call. They have Karl Rove on.
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Male 3,445
`Romney is saying it`s too early to declare Ohio... margin is too close... Hearing that on FOX`

Romney isn`t saying that from what I understand. That`s some Republicans saying that. NBC just said Romney is preparing to call Obama.
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Male 546
Anyone got fox news on? I don`t have the channel, but I`m sure their reactions are going to be hilarious.
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5Cats

"Who is Obama going to blame for everything until 2016 rolls around? I think the "Blame Bush Card" has expired..."

I only blame Bush for 2009. You take away 2009 and all Obama`s numbers go way up, just like that job growth from earlier today.
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@FP:

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Male 12,138
4 more years. It`s over.
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Female 2,769
Romney is saying it`s too early to declare Ohio... margin is too close... Hearing that on FOX
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@5cats: Oh get over it. Canada is conservative majority so you`re sitting pretty up here. I`m just happy the place with the highest potential for innovation will get 4 more years of good science funding. Someone`s gotta do it, and since we don`t here any more I`m happy they will. Go stemcells!
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Male 260
Stick that up your drating arse, Fancy.
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Male 10,061
FOX is questioning the call for Ohio. Hold on.

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Male 7,839
5cats, there is no more blaming bush. He has only himself to look at, so lets see how the country looks in four years compared to today.
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Male 3,445
@patch:

McGovern died, didn`t you hear?



GEORGE MCGOVERN!
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Male 5,811
Earlier this afternoon I had seen the results of a senate race in...Virginia I think. It had MacGovern losing. I did a double-take after I saw it because I initially had thought "Aw, poor @McGovern."
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Male 3,445
$6 billion spent on elections this year. That is a travesty. Spend that money on something more useful.
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Female 1,743
I like how there`s an email to report voter shenanigans right under Fox New`s report that Obama won.
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Male 41,069
Dec 21, 2012 cannot come too soon...

Open Question: Who is Obama going to blame for everything until 2016 rolls around? I think the "Blame Bush Card" has expired...
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Male 10,061
Nobody talk s.hit to the losers. Let`s have decorum.
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Male 2,711
I think that might be it. CNN has it 274-201 Obama. Fox has it 275-203. Stick a fork in Bishop Mittens!
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Of course you do, Crakr. lol.
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Male 5,811
From what I`ve seen, voter turnout seemed high. High voter turnout usually has a left-slant.
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Male 10,061
Come on Crakr.

You think FOX News is calling it too early in Obama`s favor? They would never do that.
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Male 3,445
Obama has a really SMART campaign. That he was able to win the states he needs so clearly in such a bitter political climate is pretty impressive.
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Male 2,578
It`s over. And yes, Fox called it before anyone haha. I also noticed they called WIsconsin way before CNN. Interesting.


Good election guys.
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Male 217
He just won! There`s hope for this country!
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Male 10,061
Wow. FOX called it and CNN still hasn`t. That`s nuts.
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Male 5,811
@Smiley: I don`t chant, I`m not tractable. But whatever you`re smoking I think you need to repack it.
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Male 17,511
I believe they are calling Ohio and Wisconsin too soon.
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Female 1,743
I`m so glad this is over.
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Female 2,769
aaaaaaand we`re done
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Male 10,061
Fox just called Ohio for Obama.

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Male 3,445
It`s over.
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Male 3,445
Obama wins Ohio.
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Male 3,445
If Obama wins Colorado, it`s over.
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Male 7,839
Crakr, good thing he may not need florida.
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Male 3,445
Iowa goes to Obama. 249 now.
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Male 17,511
HG: At the moment there is a scant 35,000 gap in Florida, which is within the number that an automatic recount happens.
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Male 3,445
`With Nevada, Iowa, and Colorado I think it`d be over, though.`

That is correct. 272 for Obama in that scenario.
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Male 2,578
Obama doesn`t even need Ohio, Virginia, or Florida to win. The odds are strongly in his favor. Even with that, he`ll almost certainly win one of those 3.
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Male 3,445
Obama currently has 244, and he`ll win Oregon (7) and Nevada (6). Ohio is 18 and Florida is 29. He`d only need one of those.
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Female 1,743
Huh. Well, this seems to be favoring Obama, yes?
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Male 2,578
HolyGod, that`s a 1% edge. I voted in Florida with absentee. I believe it hasn`t been reported yet. It`s better to hold off before declaring victory with that small of a margin.
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