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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:04 pm
    Link: Y U So Racist, Victoria`s Secret?!?! - In its most recent lingerie show, Victoria`s Secret had the nerve--THE NERVE--of using an American Indian headdress.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:09 pm
    Rude.
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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:11 pm
    What the fudgek? Fancylad, are you a freakin` retard? How is this even remotely racist? Are you on some really bad drugs or something? I`m native American. Your myopic views are offensive.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    It`s not up to you to decide whether a particular group of people other than your own is allowed to be insulted by something, especially when it is used as crassly as to sell a product. They are welcome to be offended.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    `Fancylad, are you a freakin` retard? How is this even remotely racist?`

    Read the link, dude.
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    Fancysucksss Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:13 pm
    Were most people born with a stick up their ass? I mean unless you`re of native american descent and you really give a hoot, so what. Enjoy the sexy drating show
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    KungFuGuy Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:14 pm
    Wait.. Is the headdress portrayed as a deeply spiritual/religious item to Native Americans? Only asking since I really do not know.
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    Bravosmith Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:14 pm
    Why is this racist?
  9. Profile photo of zombunny
    zombunny Female 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:17 pm
    Racism isn`t really the best word to use. It`s cultural misappropriation. Maybe calling it that would clear up some confusion.
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    FeeFee Female 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:21 pm
    Oh drating get over it. It`s just a decorative thing. It`s not racist. They look really awesome. I`d wear one too if I could find a time to do so without looking like a weirdo.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:21 pm
    This is a tough call. I`m in the same boat as "KungFuGuy". If the headdress is a deeply spiritual/religious item, then yes, it is very offensive as it cheapens it. If not, then it`s not offensive at all. I think it really depends on who it was that was offended by this.

    I`ll tell you what I find offensive, that creepy, anorexic chick on stage pretending she`s sexy. Why some guys like their woman to look like they are moments away from starving to death, is beyond me. It`s all about the curves baby.
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    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:22 pm
    How is that racist.. I mean its not like Native Americans are actually a part of our culture or anything... and Im sure they play sex games too.
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    Slotherder Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:27 pm
    Not any worse than the angel campaign they had for a long time IMO. I do understand the Native American (feeling some of a personal connection) nation wanting to stop the outside commercialization of the culture, especially when it`s fairly vulgar. But really, who takes VS seriously? I heard that VS said, while apologizing, that they viewed it as art. The leopard print fills out the costume very accurately as well, adding supremely to the artistic value. lawl
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:30 pm
    People`s sensibilities get offended so easily. Wearing a sombrero, a samurai helmet, an ushanka (russian hat), or - forbid - a sexy nun`s outfit, is not the worst thing in the world.


    Besides, if the Native Americans want people to stop using their images and culture, or their tribe names as school mascots (My high school was the Mascoutah Indians), then I`m fine with that. The only problem is that everyone will forget about the Indians. Nobody will know who the Mascoutans were, or the Illini.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    It`s not racist until dm2754 says so.
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    that1joshguy Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:37 pm
    Not racist at but chick needs a cheeseburger
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:40 pm
    Are we mad because Indian casino c*cktail waitresses have the best costumes, or is it something else I`m not getting?
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:42 pm
    So wearing a particular costume makes me racist?
  19. Profile photo of Slotherder
    Slotherder Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 6:51 pm
    Dead-Kittens: "...it`s not like Native Americans are actually a part of our culture..."
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    November 13, 2012 at 7:45 pm
    We should all start pretending that there were no native Americans when Columbus landed. Let`s remove all references to them from our history. I wonder if that would make them happy.

    "Make who happy?"

    Right.
  21. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 13, 2012 at 7:47 pm
    I`m part Indian and this doesn`t bother me personally.
  22. Profile photo of Dead-Kittens
    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 8:08 pm
    @Slotherder I meant it as sarcasm .. point I was trying to make was that perhaps native americans are their target demographic ... This is totally grasping at straws for the racism card IMO.
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    97e4ad Male 50-59
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    November 13, 2012 at 8:25 pm
    It`s acceptable to be racist as long as you`re also being sexist. If you`re looking to Vic`s Secret for social responsibility, you`re sadly misguided.
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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    "Wait.. Is the headdress portrayed as a deeply spiritual/religious item to Native Americans? Only asking since I really do not know."

    Does it even matter?? If someone used African regalia no one would care--not all Native Americans are raindancers. In fact, most are your neighbors--and disproportionately your armed service men.

    It looks nice. They actually used turquoise in the dress which is traditional.
  25. Profile photo of camael
    camael Female 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 8:38 pm
    Andrew155- What you said highlights the problem here- the only thing people `remember` about the Indians are from their school mascots or place names- maybe isn`t the fault of them, but the fault of everyone else who couldn`t care less. You can`t remember a group of people who, nevermind this being their continent originally, also live side by side with you in said continent- unless you see a pooty racist mascot or a girl dressed in lingerie and a headdress? That`s like saying black people only have cultural visibility because of minstrel shows. Learn a little bit about the people who`s country you live in. It`s actually pretty interesting stuff.
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    camael Female 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    Are from school mascots* :D
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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 9:36 pm
    No one cares to explore a truly `new world` that was never truly explored at all in the first place. If people knew what really happened they would probably reexamine what it means to be American.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 9:57 pm
    I am Native Indian (mom is full, dad is half)...and I have NO problem with this at all.

    course, she could use some sensitivity training and I would be happy to provide it to her.
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    Barnk Male 30-39
    486 posts
    November 13, 2012 at 10:36 pm
    How could nobody have commented on the bit of visible labia? Come on, people, pay attention to the mean persons.
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    ByOwlPost Female 18-29
    519 posts
    November 13, 2012 at 11:53 pm
    @Jamie76 - I didn`t know there were any "full blooded" Native Indians around any more. Not trying to be offensive here, I just thought most had mixed it up a bit by now. That`s cool.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2012 at 12:25 am
    Its getting way too PC nowadays
    let it lie and enjoy life
    no harm here
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    Howler81 Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 12:54 am
    A Native American headdress with LEOPARD spots? Come on! If you`re going to misappropriate a culture, go all the way, people! Make it jaguar print - they live in North America. Show me some splotchy rosettes. Those are too filled in.

    Maybe they, like Columbus, got Native Americans confused with Indians. Because there are, in fact, leopards in India...
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    avail9988 Male 18-29
    700 posts
    November 14, 2012 at 1:18 am
    Thats racist? You should see how we treat our natives..
  34. Profile photo of Reignblazer
    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2012 at 4:58 am
    The world of fashion is probably the last place you should look to for political awareness.
  35. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2012 at 5:00 am
    ByOwlPost: I`m guessing here, but I`d bet there are over a million `full blooded` Native American Indians in the USA, possibly more. Partial Indians are even greater in number.

    Now `full blooded` could mean a mix of different tribes. The 2010 US Census claims 2.9 million, self-identified, `sole` Native Indians, how many are actually 100% would just be a guess.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 5:48 am
    @Camael: People in Canada are constantly reminded of First Nation`s people. I live in a province with a very high number of them, shame is, not only are they poor and have problems with substance abuse like black people in the US, they also ACT like black people in the US (not all do, but ones in the cities seem to). When I was a teen I went to a Snoop concert and after a whole bunch kept calling him "my n*gger" Snoop actually reminded them that they weren`t black.

    That being said, our government makes a big deal out of honouring and respecting them and their culture, so much so that cultural traditions such as "healing circles" are used to treat people with substance abuse problems, or even as a form of "punishment" for some actual crimes. This I do not agree with though, because I think healing circles are BS.
  37. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 5:50 am
    So although Americans may not remember them, we certainly do. Whether that`s because you killed most in your land or forced them to come up here I don`t know.
  38. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2012 at 6:28 am
    It is time we all learn an important concept:

    Offensive !== Racist
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 7:04 am
    Don`t care.
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    heytonashcat Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2012 at 7:08 am
    Cheetahs once roamed the Americas?
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2012 at 7:13 am
    @McGovern1981
    thats becuse you`re Racist
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2012 at 7:16 am
    @patchgrabber
    healing circles are just a form of group therapy
  43. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 7:34 am
    @dm: I know what healing circles are. For certain things, like substance abuse, I agree. However, (and I`m not sure of the specifics on this) there have been many cases of a First Nation person committing a crime and only being sentenced to a healing circle. That`s BS.
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    PizzaPits Male 18-29
    553 posts
    November 14, 2012 at 7:49 am
    She`s 1/128th Cherokee. It`s obvious.
  45. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 8:25 am
    @HA: If that`s actually him then I don`t agree with you posting that.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 8:27 am
    @dm2754

    Keep telling yourself that. The ultra PC crowd should try reading the story of the boy who cried wolf some day.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2012 at 8:32 am
    If that`s actually him then I don`t agree with you posting that.
    Perhaps you are right. I myself debated it to begin with but rationalized it by thinking that it is his responsibility to safeguard such information.

    Either way, since I trust your opinion on non-economic matters, I have removed it.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2012 at 8:45 am
    @McGovern1981
    you spit more hate then anyone here and thats saying a lot
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2012 at 8:49 am
    @patchgrabber >>only being sentenced to
    ya that is BS it must be becuse of the compassionate nature Canada
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 9:00 am
    you spit more hate then anyone here and thats saying a lot

    ROFL! According to the guy that takes every opportunity to preach against the USA the place he still lives in. That`s pretty funny!
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    EmagehtmaI Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2012 at 9:11 am
    How is this racist? Distasteful, maybe. But I don`t see how it`s racist.
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2012 at 9:20 am
    Another for the perpetually offended.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 9:29 am
    Barnk
    Male, 30-39, Eastern US
    355 Posts Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:36:41 PM
    How could nobody have commented on the bit of visible labia? Come on, people, pay attention to the mean persons.
    ___

    Maybe because we`re not all creepy perverts like yourself?
  54. Profile photo of dm2754
    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2012 at 10:18 am
    @McGovern1981
    ya i hate America. why do i live here? becues it my land.

    you seem to hate everyone thats not you
  55. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2012 at 11:16 am
    ya i hate America. why do i live here? becues it my land.
    What a line of junk. Let`s say I have an apple, and John Smith takes that apple from me. In addition, because John Smith has an army that would easily obliterate me, I have no hope of ever recovering that apple. Who`s apple is it?

    The apple is now John`s.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    @dm2754

    LOL!! I thought your culture didn`t belive in ownership of land?
  57. Profile photo of tsheriff
    tsheriff Male 18-29
    256 posts
    November 14, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    uuhhhhh not really offensive this one
  58. Profile photo of xelous
    xelous Male 18-29
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    November 15, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Love when Victoria tells me her secrets
  59. Profile photo of tatripp
    tatripp Male 18-29
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    November 15, 2012 at 11:26 am
    this is not offensive at all
  60. Profile photo of krw888
    krw888 Male 50-59
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    November 15, 2012 at 11:39 am
    I fail to see why this is racist. It is a traditional costume. If she had been dressed as geisha or in a toga would that also have been racist?

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