Woman, 50, Gets Heart Attack After Being Tasered

Submitted by: madest 4 years ago

Over a traffic stop.
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Male 7,339
CodeJockey-"Because she was trying to drive away."

No, you have no idea what she was `trying` to do. You `think` she was only trying to drive away.

The only facts was she was clutching her bag, resisting arrest and diving into her car.

There are several reasons she would dive into her car:
1) Drive Away.
2) Grab a gun from under the seat.
3) Attempt to run over one of the cops.
4) Change the cartridge in her vent air freshener.

The cops have to take the worst case scenario.
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Male 76
Chiming in a bit late, but I gotta remark to djwajda. The advancements in technology in the past decade have allowed people to record, sometimes secretly and sometimes with the police officer fully aware, the behavior of cops interacting with citizens and the plethora or horror stories, shocking videos, and appalling violent behavior that has become almost the norm, discrediting the concept of their job, to protect and serve. What we see more and more, is middle aged individual men looking for any excuse to beat the hell out of someone and get away with it. I am all with oldollie on this, that cop should spend about 5-10 years in prison and learn his lesson like any other American citizen would. And they say that no one is above the law. Thats` total bull s-hit. All you have to do is wear a badge and blind justice doesn`t see a thing.
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Male 883
hmmmm @piperfawn...so the guy was overweight and that was your only reason to use the term `pig`? I highly doubt that.
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Male 5,005
djwajda one of the two was a fat pig for real or are you sugesting me he was in perfect shape?
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Male 883
-As I have stated earlier in this thread the actual tasering was extreme. It`s horrible that she nearly died and I have always felt, even as a former law enforcement officer that tasers are far more dangerous than they claim. But as others have stated they are an alternative. Do some officers need more training in their use? Hell yes. But do not condemn all on the actions of a few as many have done and not just in this thread. That officer will be reviewed and more than likely will receive some sort of action due to the excessive nature of the incident as far as the taser is concerned.

For you and so many others to be able to sit there and say with 100% certainty in your mind that the cops were completely wrong is laughable at best. Just like I can`t sit here and say they were 100% in the right because they weren`t. But despite what happened to her don`t go making it sound like this woman did absolutely nothing wrong and that these officers did absolutely everything wrong.
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Male 883
@OldOllie

-Vehicle parked oddly in the street in the middle of the night with break lights on. Right there is a red flag to at least stop and ensure the safety of the driver.

-They performed a field sobriety test. Have you ever performed one? I`ve done dozens and the process involves not only `walking a line` and so forth but asking alot of questions. I cannot say for sure but my guess would be she was acting suspiciously. See, I`m not like you and can assume EVERY detail from what little footage is shown but I can make assumptions based on EXPERIENCE. Am I 100% accurate? Probably not but I`m probably pretty damn close.

-They asked to look in her purse and she refused. She clutched the bag and ran to her car. Hence at this point she is not only suspected to be under the influence of a foreign substance she is now a risk to her own safety as well as that of the officers involved.


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Male 15,832
[quote]@OldOllie-please show me the `felony armed criminal action`??[/quote]
djwajda, if I did to you what they did to her, it would be a felony armed criminal action. They had no legal authority or justification for taking her purse and rifling through it. They had not witnessed her committing a crime; they had no evidence that she committed a crime; they had no criminal complaint against her; nor did they have even a reasonable suspicion that a crime had been committed. Since they had no legal authority to assault her, that makes them guilty of a crime -- actually several crimes: felony armed criminal action, felony aggravated battery, assault with a deadly weapon, attempted strong-armed robbery, unlawful detention, as well as federal civil rights charges.

Of course, they will get off Scot free, which will pretty much guarantee that they will do it again, as will their fellow police officers when they see what their friends got away with.
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Male 883
Wow, that`s what I`d call short attention span @SavageChef. If you watched the entire video and not just the part where she talks about her purse,as it appears some in this thread have, you`d notice that they immediately initiated CPR and got her breathing again.

I just love the `stupid cop` or `fat pig` jabs I`ve seen in this thread. Complain and whine about them til you need them..right?
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Female 2,691
And since she was not breathing, how come the stupid police didn`t order an ambulance? We let dumb monkeys carry weapons and a badge?
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Male 883
@Misfit: in law enforcement you are trained to give loud and distinct verbal commands during any type of `use of force` situation.
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Female 349
I like how they`re telling her not to move while actively tasing her.

She shouldn`t have run, but instead asked for them to obtain a search warrant. That would have been best.
I don`t condone nor do I blame officers for tasing her.She could have been running for her gun, but 3 times is excessive.
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Male 202
"*whine whine* tasrs r BAD!!!"
Cops having tasters are a good thing. They are better than in the old days when cops would beat the crap out of you with nightsticks or just straight up shoot you.

The chance of getting killed or seriously injured by a taser shot is tiny compared to beatings, or fudgekin bullet wounds.
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Male 5,561
I understand the reason for the officers` suspicion. They certainly had the right to investigate. The problem is that they`re too indoctrinated into thinking of a taser as a non-lethal weapon and, therefore, use it too quickly. Clearly, "non-lethal" is not necessarily an apt description for tasers. People have also been killed and critically injured by "non-lethal" rubber bullets. It also seems rather inappropriate that she was given three jolts. They need to start thinking of these weapons as "weapons of reduced lethality" rather than non-lethal.
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Male 883
@OldOllie-please show me the `felony armed criminal action`??

She wasn`t afraid for her personal safety, she was afraid they`d find the pot. Why was she parked the way she was instead of pulling off onto the shoulder? The CHP had every right investigating as she could have been injured or gotten plowed into if a car had come speeding along and not stopped in time.

I`ll definitely be interested in looking up the outcome of this as there is obviously more footage from the cruiser that wasn`t shown here. However the fact remains that while the actual tasering was horrible she was in the wrong for running.

I love snap judgements by people who most likely have never come close to a situation like this other than what they show on CSI.
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Male 15,832
[quote]why the hell did she jump into her car and try to take off?!?![/quote]
Because the cops had already committed at least one felony armed criminal action, and she was understandably afraid for her personal safety. However, while attempting to escape from two violent armed felons was certainly justifiable, it wasn`t very smart.
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Male 5,314
why the hell did she jump into her car and try to take off?!?!
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Male 907
Supposedly, if you`re not being arrested, you have the right to refuse to let the police search your belongings. We see how well that works.
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Male 2,629
Cops investigate, find nothing. They then escalate hostilities till they can initiate violence. Woman who did nothing wrong- except stand up for her rights, is assaulted and however briefly, dies.Because a cop is afraid of a woman running AWAY from him- guess he`s partnered with the scarecrow. I wonder if they handcuffed her to her hospital bed while she racked up those horrendous medical bills? You know, `cause they were skeered!
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Male 37,888

In the `70s we had a phylosophy that sums up this situation...

sh*t happens
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Male 472
of course taser can kill, however it is still safer than shooting a person.
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Male 5,811
From what I`ve heard, in some states tasering is considered the same amount of force as simply laying your hand on someone.
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Female 6,381
Cops here have been given new instructions as to when the taser is to be used, after five cops killed an agitated man at the international airport with them. No longer is it seen as the "easy way out of a confrontation" and use of tasers has plummeted.
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Male 701
Person goes for the purse, could have had a gun. I wouldn`t hesitate.
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Male 440
What stupid woman! Clutching her purse like that and running? Just how were the police supposed to know she didn`t have a gun?
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Male 186
As for the use of tasers. Yes please. I doubt you will ever here someone that was tased say they wish the cop would have used his gun instead of a taser.
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Male 186
I`m glad to see at least a few positive comments on this. Most of the rest are idiotic. I can promise you that if put in that situation, 99% of you would do the same thing. He actions is what caused this to escalate, by running to her car clutching her purse. If not armed with tazers, these officers would have drawn their weapons in defense, and at that point who knows where this may have lead.
Please, how hard is it to understand that an officer has the right to detain, question, and search when suspision exists. If an officer tells you to do something, it is a lawful order. If you feel they are wrong, then sue them afterward. Confronting or refusing an officer will only lead to situations like this. She reacted because she had pot in her purse. Would the search have been legal? Depends on the circumstances. If it wasn`t, then sue. Don`t confront them, the job they do is one of the most important in our society.
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Male 883
No madest not over a traffic stop. Please at least title your posts correctly. Yes she was within her rights to refuse a search of a purse. However she used seriously poor judgement in running and jumping into her car.

I`ll give you that it could have been handled differently on the part of the police. But honestly how many of you here criticizing the police have ever done the job? I have both in a civilian and military capacity. You have honestly no idea what she could have possibly had in that car.

We lost a police officer where I live years ago on a `routine` traffic stop. Funny he didn`t even get halfway to the car when he was murdered with an assault rifle because the driver had warrants. No traffic stop is routine in this day and age.

Sure there are bad cops. But I guarantee you the good outweigh the bad.
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Female 4,349
can anyone say police state? I can. POLICE STATE.
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Male 2,578
"fat pig"

That just said everything I need to know about you.
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Male 5,608
"How did they know she wasn`t going for a gun?

Justified tazing."
Because she was trying to drive away.
And she was within her rights to not let them look in her purse.

Once it was established she wasn`t drunken then, she refused a personal search, he was supposed to advise her not to loiter and leave.

All three people overreacted.
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Male 1,511
We`ve always known that tazers are not fully safe. They are labeled less-than-lethal.
So instead of tazing this lady (who was trying to get in her car to drive away and/or reaching for things), what should they have done instead? Punch her? Wrestle her to the ground? Pepper-spray her (people have probably died from that too)? What? She put herself at risk with her own actions.
I just wish she would have yelled "don`t taze me bro!"
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Male 5,005
Anyway the discussion here is not about this particular case, is about the "Tazers", how they can kill people, how police abuse on that "weapon" and how your police is trained on using it.
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Male 5,005
Corydoras87 if a cop ask you to search your personals things like the car or the purse and you say no, the fat pig must just shut up or present a search warrant.
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Male 10,339
How did they know she wasn`t going for a gun?

Justified tazing.
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Male 642
typical hipster reporting.. ooh the bad police.. they abuse their power.. what if the woman killed some people while trying to get away? If a cop tells you to stop, you stop.. no questions asked. If you cooperate, nothing bad will happen and things will clear up if you are not guilty
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Male 5,005
Oink!
Lik stay in Europe pls! You are wellcome here.
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Male 1,511
"Over a traffic stop" - Such BS. More like from running from cops, trying to get into car to start a high speed chase or possibly grabbing a gun. Totally justified. Maybe they should have just shot her instead?
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Male 2,578
So we`re on race, already. Wow, society is so post-racial these days.
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Female 3,727
Reason #297 on why I do not want to go back to the states. Also:

1. I`m black
2. Drive a nice car
3. Don`t take poo from anyone
= me tasered or jailed!
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Male 7,378
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