Three Somewhat Similar Maps [Pic]

Submitted by: Draculya 4 years ago

Political preferences over time.
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Male 411
Don`t bother trying to reason with Crackr or 5cats, they already know all the "facts". Don`t you know it`s documented, and if you disagree, then you`re clearly following a logical fallacy.

@Holygod. I love how you almost defended Phelps to make a point, I wouldn`t have had the balls, but you shut those guys up good on that.
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Male 6
Bahahaha... A comment on the racial segregation map- pretty damn close to the 1952 election map, with the "segregation required" states reflecting the states that voted democrat... Seriously, its 2012- if there are any racists left, they are clearly ignorant and do not deserve our time. However, your maps will only accomplish your evident goals w/ the "American Idle" types (you know the kind, absolutely 0 critical thinking ability).
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Male 579
Oh dear Lord! Southern Democrats were pro slavery until about 1877! And it was white voters who were tolerant of the Civil Rights act in the 60`s who began voting GOP! All this tells is that yes, after further review, our school systems still suck! Read some darn history!
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Male 296
This is exactly what I was stating about the map posted last week about education level. The way people voted in this election had more to do with skin color than anything else. People are simply using party politics to cover up their racism and bigotry.
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Male 7,905
5Cats

"[quote] I said not all Republicans are racists.[/quote]@HG: LIAR!"

Seriously?

Saturday, November 10, 2012 4:34:19 PM

"I am NOT saying all republicans are racists."

It was the last line in my very first post on this thread.

" There are LOTS of Democrat BLACK members who are out-and-out racists against blacks, whites, Jews, Asians... NOT according to @HG though... "

Ughhh. I spend half my time on here correcting you about the most basic things. Here is my quote to Crakr:

" certainly there are black people who hate white people and that would make them racists. Allow me to re-phrase. All white racists vote Republican. "
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Male 17,512
FP: [quote]...fascism`s goal to promote the rule of people deemed innately superior while seeking to purge society of people deemed innately inferior[/quote]

This is also known as eugenics, and the eugenics movement in America is personified by Planned Parenthood, The March Of Dimes and The Rockefeller Foundation, among others.

Fascism is mostly about social darwinism, trying to `evolve` better human beings through breeding and sterilization/population control.
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Male 36,345
[quote]I am saying all racists are republicans.[/quote]
@HG: "No True Scotsman" arguement = check!

[quote] I said not all Republicans are racists.[/quote]
@HG: LIAR! Troll, all you do these days is troll. Sad, pathetic even! It`s not even witty trolling, just libtard talking points and hate-speak...

[quote]I don`t agree that "all racists are Republicans."[/quote]
Thank you @FoolsPrussia! There are LOTS of Democrat BLACK members who are out-and-out racists against blacks, whites, Jews, Asians... NOT according to @HG though...

@LillianDulci: I`d say your teachers "SEEMED" impartial because you yourself lean-left. In University it`s been documented over & over how HARD left those in charge are...

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Male 2,357
[quote]Not prison, military. Close, though.[/quote]
Ah, gotcha. I was trying to think of something that could compel you to stay in one location and prison is all that came to mind. Bragg?
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Male 3,445
@Bakcagain:

Fascism and Nazism are not far-left ideologies. There is often a point when you get to the extremely far ends of the spectrum where the left and right blur together in some ways. Nazism and Fascism both incorporate elements from the left and right.

From Wikipedia`s definition of fascism:

"Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists who combined left-wing and right-wing political views. Fascists have commonly opposed having a firm association with any section of the left-right spectrum, considering it inadequate to describe their beliefs, though fascism`s goal to promote the rule of people deemed innately superior while seeking to purge society of people deemed innately inferior is identified as a prominent far-right theme. Fascism opposes multiple ideologies, such as: communism, conservatism, and liberalism."
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Male 560
I have to agree with Crakrjak about the wrong usage of Far Right. Usually people call fascists the far right. They`re not they`re far left, the Nazi`s were socialist. It`s the cleverest association in history every-time you say far right you damage the center right by association. Far right would be libertarians. Left and Right are economic terms, authoritarianism and anarchism are the over terms which describe how interventionist the government is in your affairs.
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Male 560
@HolyGod NO a lot of white racists will vote for third party candidates. Republicans are too pro latino and skilled immigration for them...
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Male 560
@crarjak I know if only conservatives stuck to their ideals and allowed ze gays to marry. Seriously though conservatism has changed, it used to be about fiscal responsibility and keeping the state out of your life. Now it want`s to interfere and we sane ones have to call ourselves fiscal conservatives. Conservatives should get more votes, just practice what you preach and sop trying to control my life to fit your views it`s not the conservative way!
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Male 945
You know, a lot of people seem to enjoy baiting CrakrJak and I can`t figure out why? All of his arguements are most often well reasoned and factually supported. I know that politically, I agree with him more often than not and religiously, we differ a bit. But why does it seem like everyone wants to bash him?
No, I`m not trying to defend him. He`s quite capable of doing that on his own. But I am trying to understand the mindset of some of the others on this site.
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Female 2,674
The only way what you said is actually valid is if you`re saying they`re pushing "liberalism" on us by promoting tolerance and acceptance of others, and promoting knowledge and learning. If that`s the case, then I absolutely support teachers teaching these things.
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Female 2,674
"Most young college-age people have had over a decade of liberal indoctrination by their public school teachers and then get an even bigger dose of liberalism by their college professors."

Lies, or very very uncommon at least. In high school my teachers were as impartial as possible. In college, my teachers don`t really have a reason to mention their political beliefs considering they`re mostly engineering and math classes. The closest I`ve got is a communications professor who used a clip from the daily show as an example for something we were learning.

The only time I`ve actually witnessed a professor trying to influence political opinion was when my mom took a history class. Her professor was a tea bagger who sent them a bunch of pro tea party emails and included extremely biased questions (which were his opinion and had nothing to do with history and were sometimes false) on the tests.
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Male 7,905
CrakrJak

"Really? What about The New Black Panthers, La Raza, The Nation of Islam and Fred Phelps of the WBC (who`s a democrat)."

Absolutely, fair enough. I don`t think you can automatically characterize those groups as racists. However, certainly there are black people who hate white people and that would make them racists. Allow me to re-phrase. All white racists vote Republican.

Is Phelps a racist? Phelps hates "fags". Gay isn`t a race. Phelps worked for the civil rights movement in the 60s. He is most certainly not a racist.
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Male 2,513
Whodat`s maps were much more informative than any others posted. Kudos
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Male 17,512
[cont.]

That naivety usually starts to wane when people get married, have children, and pay on a mortgage of their own, and the demographics back me up on this. This "marriage gap" seems to be growing because people are waiting longer to get married than they used to.
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Male 17,512
Zira: Most young college-age people have had over a decade of liberal indoctrination by their public school teachers and then get an even bigger dose of liberalism by their college professors. All of this `mind shaping` is then also bolstered by liberal/progressive websites and the mainstream news media.

All this push-based opinion over the last 4 decades has distorted public awareness to the point now that people like you believe republicans are `far right` or `extremist`.

The truth is republicans haven`t changed their party platform in two generations, which is really rather centrist. What has changed is the education of American children has become so far left that anything centrist seems `far right` in their naive point of view.
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Female 2,228
In the interest of getting back the olde Republicans (see my examples) and returning some badly needed sanity to one of our political parties, I`m gonna offer some pointers here.

Step 1. Admit you have a problem. The GOP is a catastrophuck with minority/women/young/ voters *by design*. This is no accident, this is intentional, and it has been that way since Goldwater sold the party`s soul for the white southern vote in 1964.

Step 2. Address the heart of the problem by changing the attitudes and the policies that reflect the worst that constituency comes up with. Note: this means a whole helluva lot more than just lame tokenism, it`s gonna take nothing less than a direct confrontation with the party`s dark side to exorcize these demons.

If Dems could do the same thing in the middle of the 20th century, and come out of that struggle ethically victorious, than Rs can do the same now. But it`s gonna take WORK.
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Male 3,445
There`s also this map of racist post-election tweets.
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Male 17,512
Now awaiting for HG to come up with some lame backpeddling that he didn`t really say that all racists are republican.
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Male 3,445
`Fred Phelps of the WBC (who`s a democrat)`

I don`t think either party wants anything to do with Phelps. I`ve even seen Hannity rake Shirley Phelps over the coals.

I don`t agree that "all racists are Republicans." There are certainly plenty of racist Democrats. However, I do think the Republican party has a bigger problem with racism. To say that minority voters are Democrats because they`re being duped by the party is in itself pretty offensive, because it implies that those individuals aren`t smart enough to realize when they`re being misused.
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Male 17,512
HG: [quote]I am saying all racists are republicans.[/quote]

Really? What about The New Black Panthers, La Raza, The Nation of Islam and Fred Phelps of the WBC (who`s a democrat).
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Male 3,445
`However there are lots of racists still in America and they certainly vote Republican.`

Yes, like these people.
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Male 802
It seems like these maps are implying that if you live in an area with a very high population of black people you are more likely to vote republican.
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Male 7,905
CrakrJak

"Slander and Calumny Sir!"

Dude did you even read my comment? I said not all Republicans are racists. However there are lots of racists still in America and they certainly vote Republican.
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Male 17,512
HG: [quote]The republican party is now the party of bigots, racists, neo-nazis, and the KKK.[/quote]

Slander and Calumny Sir!

Republicans want people to be judged on the content of their character, not their race. It`s the democrats that still hold onto the belief that minorities need to be mollycoddled and catered too. That`s the REAL racism, the racism of low expectations and lower standards.
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Male 7,905
indiechad

"So what was the point of this useless graphic again?"

It is for people who understand history. Yes back then they were in Democrats control. Democrats used to be the party of racism and bigotry. The KKK used to be mostly democrats. Hell, Lincoln was a Republican. That has all changed in the past 40 years though. The republican party is now the party of bigots, racists, neo-nazis, and the KKK.

I am NOT saying all republicans are racists. I am saying all racists are republicans.

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Male 37,888

DuckBoy87, [quote]"If it weren`t for those highly condensed urban areas, PA and OH would have gone to Romney." [/quote]
You mean, "If it weren`t for the majority of the population. . . " Yeah, I can see were people voting for Obama can mess up Romney`s plans.
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Male 3,445
@indiechad: Again, read the 20th century history of the political parties for the answer.
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Male 411
@DuckBoy87 Minnesota was pretty much the same story.
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Male 12
I wonder who was governor of some of those southern states in 1950? Alabama: James E. Folsom, a Democrat. Mississippi: Fielding L. Wright, a Democrat. Arkansas: Sid McMath, a Democrat. Florida: Fuller Warren, a Democrat. Georgia: Herman Talmadge, a Democrat. Oklahoma: Roy Joseph Turner, a Democrat. Tennessee: Gordon Browning, a Democrat. Texas: yes, even Texas, Allan Shivers, a Democrat. So what was the point of this useless graphic again?
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Male 3,412
Yeah, I understand that Fools, my point was really that if you travel the majority of PA, you`re bound to be in the red territories.

To illustrate my point, PA`s 12th congressional seat has been held by a Democrat for at least 36 years (held by John Murtha and then Mark Critz) was lost to a Republican (Keith Rothfus).
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Male 3,445
`If it weren`t for those highly condensed urban areas, PA and OH would have gone to Romney`

It`s not out of the ordinary for that to happen in a lot of states. Rural voters tend to vote Republican, but the population in those rural counties is smaller than in the condensed urban areas, which vote Democrat.
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Male 3,412
Has anyone actually seen a map of Pennsylvania and Ohio, county by county?

In PA, at least, the entire state was RED, sans the Pittsburgh area and the Filthy-delphia areas.

If it weren`t for those highly condensed urban areas, PA and OH would have gone to Romney.
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Female 2,228
Yeah too bad they don`t make Reps like Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt anymore, becuase if they did Reps may just have won all those blue spots on the 2012 map.
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Female 43
You cannot compare Republicans and Democrats of today with Republicans and Democrats of yesterday, essentially 1960 and before, give or take a few years. Values, issues, and priorities were completely different.
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Female 2,674
Andrew155, all your maps show is the party switch between republicans and democrats :P Current republicans would have been democrats not too long ago. And pro slavery.
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Male 1,793
yeah the south was democrat until we kicked out the racist @CrakrJak
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Male 3,445
`Also, the deep south was solidly democrat for over a hundred years`

Do we really have to go over 4th grade political history every time we talk about this subject?
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Male 1,341
@HumanAction

Not prison, military. Close, though.
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Male 17,512
The problem with this is that 10 of the states where `free states`. Also, the deep south was solidly democrat for over a hundred years.
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Male 2,578
cyborg, you can`t even vote. But I actually voted for Gary Johnson. I am the 1% and proud.
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Male 2,790
| angry republicans
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Male 36,345
[quote]there is no f ucking way to DENIGRATE the south, Always have been-always will be STRONG FREE THINKING FOLKS[/quote]

fify @soundman!

@andrew: your pics lost their explainations...

@McThstlpnts: Welcome to IAB! I love the avatar! Nifty name!



Ellis! From "Errant Story" (your vampire kitten is even cuter though...)
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Male 2,578
I would also like to point out how accepted it is to say that the South is "backward" and that their culture is "barbaric".

I really wonder, are there any other cultures in the world that these liberals would let you get away with saying these sorts of things? Like if somebody gets stoned in Iran or Mali, they say, "Oh, but it`s not all Muslims, it`s just those few".

Newsflash, if you think that way about cultures WAY more oppressive than North Florida or Missouri, then why can`t you use the same reasoning for the South? It`s so strange.
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Male 3,909
Here`s another one!!!

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Male 3,909
I can post maps too!

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Male 2,578
Or this one












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Male 3,909
@McThstlpnts - I have to agree with you. I`m a New Yorker through & through but I spent some time in the south. I was stationed at Camp Lejeune, NC and I lived in Austin, TX for two years after I got out of the Marine Corps. I met quite a few southerners, obviously, but I noticed that while in many cases the redneck stereotype is very accurate, a lot of folks down there are good people. They`re not all the racist hillbillies people everywhere else think they are.
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Male 2,578
Surely this one is


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Male 2,578
You guys have seriously got to fuq off about your racial quandaries. Michigan, right up there by Canada, was barely for Obama. Same thing with Wisconsin, Ohio, and New Hampshire. Indiana wasn`t even for Obama. Oregon was also pretty close.

And what about West Virginia? They separated from Virginia specifically to be against slavery. I feel like that would take everything away from your logic.


Is this one racist?


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Male 2,357
[quote]I`ve been living in North Carolina, against my own will, since 2010.. I drating hate it here.[/quote]
... prison?
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Female 1,540
I have to say...it is really embarrassing to live in the South...wish I could afford to move away honestly. But please be fair...not all those who live in the south are "knuckle draggers" and "morally retarded". If you look at the percentages per red state you will see that some (like TN) were neck and neck between Obama and Romney. Many are evolving down here!!
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Male 3,745
"The south are nice people--but they are very morally retarded."

visited alabama. all of them are rude bastards.
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Male 1,284
i guess there is really 2 countries within the US
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Male 1,341
I`ve been living in North Carolina, against my own will, since 2010.. I drating hate it here.
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Male 5,314
so what you`re saying is the south is nucking futs? who didn`t know that?
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Male 2,290
The south are nice people--but they are very morally retarded.
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Male 3,909
Exactly!
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Male 1,558
there is no f ucking way to defend the south, Always have been-always will be backward knuckle draggers
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Male 560
Don`t really think political affiliations can be contrasted back in time to modern times. Ghandi was a racist by todays standards wanting to keep the black caste below him. Also not helpful in political debate to just come out and call someone a racist on such loose reasoning, if you want people to ignore you go for it. Want to be able to change someones opinion then don`t.
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Male 14,773
Link: Three Somewhat Similar Maps [Pic] [Rate Link] - Political preferences over time.
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