Should You Order Papa John`s Pizza? [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 4 years ago in

Of course, you can make up your own mind, but Papa John Schnatter"s politics might alter your decision making process.
There are 131 comments:
Male 335
A draw bridge....nice....I need one.
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Male 219
Papa Johns is always my first choice. Now more than ever!
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Male 8,438
Musuko42-" you`ll have large areas where adults supporting families are stuck taking these "kids" jobs"

So you`re saying that `adults supporting families` should be paid MORE for performing the same exact job a 16-year-old earning pocket money is?

The work performed determines the pay. A job that entails lining up Fruit-Loops boxes and cleaning up a spill on Aisle 5 is worth minumum wage (IF you perform enough work). It doesn`t matter if you`re a 16-year-old geek or a 45-year-old father of three. Of course, if you`re a 45-year-old who`s only job skill is stocking, that says much more about you as an individual than Walmart.
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Male 2,850
@MeGrendel

"Why? Some jobs are designed for kids, living at home, to give them experience and some pocket cash."

There`s your answer: allow companies to undercut minimum wage simply by claiming "these jobs are meant for kids". If enough employers, or large-enough employers (read: Walmart, etc) do this, then you`ll have large areas where adults supporting families are stuck taking these "kids" jobs.
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Male 8,438
Musuko42-"Every job should pay a living wage."

Why? Some jobs are designed for kids, living at home, to give them experience and some pocket cash. Some are entry level.

In order to EARN a living wage, your contribution to the business must worth MORE than your wage. Lining up Cheerios on a shelf does not contribute enough to warrent a living wage. (MAYBE if each Walmart store only had ONE stock boy, he`d be earning the company enough to receive a living wage.)

Musuko42-"That`s the point of minimum wage."

That is incorrect. Try studying history. The Minimum Wage was never designed as a living wage. It was about income equity for those with little or no job skills and to help eliminate sweat shops.
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Male 5,811
@Crakr: Oh, I never eat at Papa`s, and if I had, I would have stopped as soon as he made this announcement. The part that I don`t like is that if it were a real public option funded through taxes, he would not be required to pay for health insurance at all (except the modest tax increase), yet I did not hear him saying a public option would be better, no he only whines when the worst situation for him happens. Perhaps he should have supported the public option.
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Male 2,850
@CRAIGJ

"You are not suppose to be able to raise a family on this type of job."

Wanting to not be bankrupt if your health fails =/= wanting to raise a family.

@MeGrendel

Every job should pay a living wage. That`s the point of minimum wage.
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Male 2,850
@Bakcagain21

"So going from a 50 million budget to do all that to a 20 million budget will affect the company pretty drastically."

Of course it is. But a good company would manage to survive that.

Times are changing; society wants decent, affordable healthcare for all. Just as generations past wanted pensions and unemployment welfare and safety regulations. Companies have to keep up with these changes or die.

And other companies HAVE kept up with those changes...otherwise, business would have gone extinct the moment that people banded together and fought for the right to not be shredded by dangerous factory equipment.
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Male 2,850
@gymcoach29

"however I am against nationalized (socialized) health care because I do not believe it is yours or anyone else`s responsibility to provide me health care."

"If you get hurt, go to the hospital, they are obligated to treat you, insurance or not"

So if you get hurt, you`ll refuse to go to the hospital and refuse the care that they`re obligated to give you (because that`s a handout that someone else is paying for)?
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Male 2,850
@auburnjunky

"I severely under-estimated how much it costs a business to insure an employee!"

Then I guess you as a society need to decide which you value more: the health and wellbeing of your fellow citizens, or the ability to get unhealthy food dirt cheap.
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Male 73
@WeePee,

Wait a minute. Just last year the argument was that people like Papa John were "job creators." Now you are telling me that all of his wealth doesn`t support any jobs because it`s separated from his publicly traded company? So I would assume you have no problem with jacking his taxes up because people like him aren`t creating any jobs anyway, right?

You can`t have it both ways...
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Male 142
Hmm. Yep, still ordering Papa Johns.
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Male 164
Hater`s gonna hate!
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Male 2
It`s his business and his money you pathetic drating losers!
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Male 715
I want my dividends
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Male 612
it doesnt cost him 14 more cents, it costs the company 14 more cents and since his company is publicly traded (PZZA) he needs to look after the profit margins for share holders. sorry this goes over the libertards heads.
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Male 17,512
patchgrabber: I believe if you wanted to protest their increased price, which he hasn`t done yet, wouldn`t it just be better to order from another pizza place?
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Female 836
Raise the price of the pizza.

I`d be happy to help a fellow American out and make sure they had some benefits. A few cents here and there is something I`m ok with, even if I don`t live in a castle.
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Male 8,438
Fionax-"Its disgusting how this man can live in a place like this, with way more space than any person needs."

Hey, Cool, does that mean I get to deem what YOU need? I think a TI-85 is as close to a computer that you need. You don`t need a cell phone, a house phone will do fine. And you get to drive nothing more powerfull than a 30cc moped. K?

(what? I don`t get to deem what you need? Then you don`t get to judge what this guy `needs`.)

Fionax-"deny the people that make him that money"

You have that backward. HE is the reason they have a paycheck.

In order to MAKE a living wage, you have to produce enough for you company to JUSTIFY a living wage.

Assembling pizzas has never been worth a living wage, UNLESS you own the business and also are the cook, cleaning lady, maintenance guy, plumber, book keeper and chief bottle washer. But then, you ALSO are taking the chance of losing everything you`ve put into the b
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Male 146
Why do liberals think that if you work at a place like this you deserve free health care and 20$hr. What ever happened to entry level jobs? You are not suppose to be able to raise a family on this type of job. But now wth the entitlement crowd taking over every thing if you make less than 40-50k a year HELL why work? Its a F$%ING shame what these handouts have done to this country!
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Female 36
I love how some people justify things like shoplifting from big companies by saying "Well, the company gets hurt, not the employees" but that isn`t true! The owners of these bigass companies won`t take a hit from their own paycheck, so they take hours or cut the pay of the workers, like in this situation here. Its always the little people that get hurt the most.

Its disgusting how this man can live in a place like this, with way more space than any person needs, and deny the people that make him that money basic healthcare.
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Male 5,811
[quote]You`ll still pay that $0.14 a pizza, one way or the other, they`ll either raise the price of their pizza or tack it on to the delivery charge. Stiffing the driver on the tip would just be a douche move, it`s not their fault.[/quote]
Whether they tack on the 14 cents from original price or added delivery cost, by "stiffing" the driver 14 cents I have effectively not paid the increase in price. It may be a "douche move" but just as it isn`t his fault, it`s also not MY fault. So I`ll just work around Papa`s price increase and although they still make the 14 cents, I still haven`t paid anything extra. As others on this site have pointed out, life isn`t fair and if the driver wants a better job he can go get one.
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Male 17,512
Let`s run the numbers here, let`s say he sells 100 million pizzas a year (just a guess) at $0.14 a pizza that adds up to $14 million. That`s a sizable sum of money.

patchgrabber: You`ll still pay that $0.14 a pizza, one way or the other, they`ll either raise the price of their pizza or tack it on to the delivery charge. Stiffing the driver on the tip would just be a douche move, it`s not their fault.
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Male 255
This is like people boycotting gas prices and Chick Fil-A. Nothing will change.
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Male 1,216
What a sack of poo.
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Male 8,438
greenbasterd-"YOU can`t afford the extra 14 cents per pizza"

Actually, I can. And if the pizza`s good enough, I`ll pay it.

I have no idea if Papa Johns pizza is worth it, or not, as I`ve never tried it. (I`d much rather have the Chicken White Pizza with onions from the Picklefish. Sure, it`s a $27 pizza and it costs me $8 bucks in gas to drive accross town to get it, but it`s worth is.)

The point is, at some point some people will stop purchasing the pizza over a few cents. Some people that will stop for a $7.99 pizza will see `$8.13` and go elsewhere.

So a few cents will hurt his sales. To what degree remains to be seen.
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Female 4,359
that house is awesome!
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Male 2,376
no no no you see, you got that wrong.. YOU can`t afford the extra 14 cents per pizza....
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Male 808
Isn`t he a franchisor? Really they would absorb the costs associated with this...
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Male 8,438
kingdomCome-"his account is filled with funds appropriated (legitimately I presume) from those of the company"

Actually, HE pays THE WORKERS...not the other way around.

kingdomCome-"and who prepares the food/service?"

HE paid for/developed the food, the recipes, the infrastructure, the raw materials, the advertising, the franchising, etc.

What did the workers do? They built a pizza out of dough, tomato sauce, cheese, sausage and all that HE paid for.

Not exactly a `skill` now, is it?

The EMPLOYEES don`t pay him, he pays them.
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Male 5,811
@McGovern: Yes, like I said, it`s not about making a statement, it`s simply about paying what I normally pay.
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Male 14,331
Oh I thought it was outrigh stiffing! .16 cents the only person who cares about that is this prick in the mansion LOL! Sell a lambo and deal with it papa cheap ass!
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Male 5,811
[quote]It becomes your problem when all the delivery drivers say hey lets lace this cheap f**ks pizza with snots and pubes.[/quote]
But if I`m only removing 16 cents from his tip, how was he to know that I was going to pay 16 cents more? I generally tip at least $4 to the driver, so if he got $3.84 that would be the difference between normal pizza and pubes?
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Male 338
@trutenrman...don`t believe I have to point this out to you, but yes...his financials are separated from the company, but his account is filled with funds appropriated (legitimately I presume) from those of the company...maybe if he took a little less each year there`d be enough left in the company to pay for healthcare...

@megrendel...and why do his customers go back? because they like the food/service...and who prepares the food/service?
...like talking to a 5 year old
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Male 14,331
It`s unwise to treat those who handle your food like dirt.
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Male 14,331
@patchgrabber

It becomes your problem when all the delivery drivers say hey lets lace this cheap f**ks pizza with snots and pubes.
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Male 101
The liberals and the complacent middle decided to vote for a guy that said he was going to stick it to rich folks. Did you really think rich folks were just going to bend over & take it? That`s not how they became rich in the first place. No, they`ll make their money one way or the other.

It`s just like my local politics. A school levy passed that charges a $60k home owner an extra $200 each year in property taxes. Who voted for it? The "underprivileged" folks who live in metro housing who don`t pay property tax. The upper-lower and middle class gets screwed out of this, not the rich.

The world needs ditch diggers. Make the welfare recipients work for their gov`t check, like they did in the New Deal, and the gov`t can pay for their health care. Also, the constitution needs to be amended so that the Congress gets the exact same retirement and health care that their constituents get, not the platinum system they currently have.
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Male 2,552
Where he lives has nothing to do with his business. Liberals don`t effing get it. The bank accounts and whatnot are SEPARATED.
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Male 8,438
FoolsPrussia-"His employees are why he enjoys his own health care and overall high standard of living."

Incorrect. His CUSTOMERS are why he enjoys his own health care and overall high standard of living, and also why his employees have jobs.

CreamK-"No word about actually caring about ANYONE but yourselves."

It`s a free country (so far). Caring for others is a choice, not a requirement. The fact that you may be rich, poor, healthy, sickly, effects very few people outside of a very small circle.

Your existance is insignificant to the effect of 99.9999999999999999999999999999% of the world`s population.
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Male 579
I don`t give a rip what he owns, in my world we here in America all have "equal opportunity"! If you`re so jelly then get off your ass and do some real damn work and get your own damn big house. It`s an abomination that government should step in and force a private owner to redistribute his wealth as THEY see fit, not him (or her). That`s the whatever brand of socialism you want to call it that takes away freedom. You should not decide what profits for him are acceptable or not. To those people I say "screw you"! No wonder people sign petitions to secede. I want no part of your world and clearly you do not agree with my values. Let`s just divide this thing up and you lefties can have your lefty whatever world and I`ll keep my freedom thank you very much.
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Male 1,421
I`m with patchouly with this one. Health care is not luxury, it`s basic cornerstones of civilized society. Costs of nationalized healthcare is much cheaper and it`s humane, civilized and morally right. Preventing some (the poor ) to not have the same basic health services you are hurting humanbeings ffs. That doesn`t appear on the texts of privatized health care supporters, all they write about is MONEY! There not a word of taking care of thy neighbours.. Why the hell christians are against it and atheists seemed to support it?

What the hell is wrong with you people? No word about actually caring about ANYONE but yourselves.. "they should go to work and.." but what if that cancer hits you when your down, between jobs? It`s been calculated that providing housing to all homeless people will actually decrease costs, not raise them. People living indoors tend to use drugs less, drink less, have less sickness, have better mental health, security, comfort and self esteem..
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Male 4,745
auburnjunky:
"I am in no way opposed to everyone paying a few more percent in taxes, and having everyone open to free healthcare.

Therein lies the issue with Obamacare. The whole YOU MUST PURCHASE THIS PRODUCT OR WE WILL MAKE YOU PAY A FINE is bullpoo!"
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Crap! I hate it when you make me agree with you.
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Male 5,811
[quote]LOL! ya the driver talks to Papa John all the time![/quote]
I fail to see how that`s my problem.

[quote]You still don`t seem to grasp how it works.[/quote]
No, I understand quite well. Papa John gets butthurt, Papa John raises prices. I don`t want to pay it, so I subtract it from the tip and I end up paying exactly what I used to. It`s not about making a statement or sticking it to Papa, it`s about paying what I used to pay, nothing more, nothing less. I can do whatever I want with my money, I would have thought you right-wingers would know that.
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Male 10,338
I am in no way opposed to everyone paying a few more percent in taxes, and having everyone open to free healthcare.

Therein lies the issue with Obamacare. The whole YOU MUST PURCHASE THIS PRODUCT OR WE WILL MAKE YOU PAY A FINE is bullpoo!
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Male 10,338
"but that driver can take it up with Papa John."

You still don`t seem to grasp how it works.
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Male 75
Oh ya...you are paying into with your taxes. Its called Social Security and medicare tax. Look at your paycheck. So raise it up 5% more and lets ALL get some.
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Male 1,497
@ Patch Sometimes it works out ok. I`m proof of that.
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Male 75
Health care is like car insurance. They will pay out at some point. They need to have people paying in so that they can pay out. As less and less company`s offer health insurance, the cost goes up. The more people that use the ER for a primary care Dr. and not pay the more that costs. Now they pass that cost on to the insurance company and they to you. That`s why you can`t afford it. You will use the system "If you get hurt, go to the hospital, they are obligated to treat you, insurance or not" EVERYBODY WORKS. EVERYBODY PAYS. EVERYBODY GETS IT.
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Male 14,331
@patchgrabber

LOL! ya the driver talks to Papa John all the time!
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Male 4,745
Sorry...I should have said "Health care, **FOR US IN CANADA**, is like garbage collection or mail delivery".
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Male 4,745
One of the big problems here is the way you guys view health care. Businesses shouldn`t be forced to cover you and you shouldn`t be forced to cover yourself. Health care is like garbage collection or mail delivery. Everyone pays taxes and a tiny portion of that goes into a health care program that covers everyone.

If you are paying into a health care program, chances are you will never use anything close to what you paid into it. However, with "universal health care", you pay A LOT less and left over goes to help others. Then, if you need something major done, other`s leftovers go to help you. It all works out in the end.
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Male 560
@Musuko42 What do you think companies do with profits. Get naked and have a shower with it? The money goes to the share holders(who bought shares raising capital for the company) in the expectation of a return, or for reinvesting into the business expansion,upgrading facilities, research into new recipes etc. So going from a 50 million budget to do all that to a 20 million budget will affect the company pretty drastically.
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Male 4,163
capitalism at its best
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Male 5,811
@AJ: Agreed. Like I said, I`m not out to stick it to the company, I`m just avoiding his price increase. It may be in poor taste to his delivery driver, but that driver can take it up with Papa John.
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Male 363
I do not have health care and I cannot afford it, however I am against nationalized (socialized) health care because I do not believe it is yours or anyone else`s responsibility to provide me health care. I have my own business that has been failing for well over a year but I am sticking to it. I have care credit in case I need it and I am looking into catastrophic insurance in case something bad happens. But again, it is not within the governments scope of responsibility to give me insurance, not force it upon me. I believe everey person should work and get what he or she earns, and nothing that I get should come from the backs of those who work except my own. Besides, we have health care in this country. If you get hurt, go to the hospital, they are obligated to treat you, insurance or not...get over yourselves and quit looking for handouts from the government..
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Male 10,338
The tip is not a transaction to the company. Not in any sense. It is a personal gesture toward your service-person.
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Male 10,338
Good on ya Patch. Most people don`t show Crakr any love when he deserves it.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Because that hurts the company. Nice move you cheap bastard.[/quote]
I never said that was my intention @AJ. My intention was to avoid his attempt to make me pay more, which as a consumer, is my right. Funny how he can do anything with his business but I can`t do anything I want with the tip I give.
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Male 10,338
I severely under-estimated how much it costs a business to insure an employee!

"The costs to this point (basic salary, employment taxes and benefits) are typically in the 1.25 to 1.4 times base salary range- e.g. the cost range for a $50,000/year employee might $62,500 to $70,000."
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Male 5,811
[quote]I apologize, apparently I repeated a rumor about John Schnatter that wasn`t true. It`s something I heard a long time ago and never had a reason to doubt it until now. [/quote]
Since no one else acknowledged this I will:
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Male 10,338
"I`ll just take it from his delivery driver`s tip."

Because that hurts the company. Nice move you cheap bastard.
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Male 5,811
What does it matter anyway? If he`s going to pass the charge on to the consumer, I`ll just take it from his delivery driver`s tip. Your move, Papa...
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Male 75
Out of all the fully developed countries, only in America is health care a luxury. I guess someones lift is worth 14 cents.

::::::::::OPEN QUESTION::::::::::::

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT CAN`T AFFORD, OR DOESN`T HAVE HEALTH CARE, THAT IS AGAINST IT?
1) Why?
2) What do you do when you need medical attention?
3) How do you pay for said medical attention?
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Male 2,850
@auburnjunky

Wikipedia tells me Papa John` employs 16,000 people (as of 2010).

If, as you say, it would cost $200 a month to insure all of them, that would be $38,400,000 a year.

Papa John`s net income (profits) in that same year, 2010, was $51,940,000.

It would dent their profits, but not eradicate their profits.

You can argue against a company being forced to give more to their employees at the expense of profit. But that would put you in the same group of people as those who think outsourcing to cheap, exploitative developing-world labour is okay, those who feel it`s just fine to hire and exploit illegal workers, and those who once upon a time thought it was a-okay to keep slaves to work the fields.
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Male 363
What you people are not getting is, this is NOT about greedy business owners...it is about greedy government, greedy politicians. THEY want more...they are the evil ones...Why don`t politicians have to participate in Obamacare? Why don`t they pay into social security? Why are you all so willing to protect these people while attacking the people who built their own businesses and want to keep their own profits?
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Male 363
He is evil because he created a business and does not want to give MORE to the government? You people are so delusional. Yes, he could take the hit, I would be willing to bet many of you could too..cut your cable down, get rid of the fancy smart phone...Oh but no....not me..if the rich guy does not he is evil but I "need" my cable, or phone or whatever...
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Male 10,338
"the guy could take the hit, not increase prices, and still turn a tidy profit."

What freaking planet are you living on?

The one where money is infinite I assume.

How much do you think he makes a year? 1, maybe 2 million?

You people think that they can just pay for it and everything will be okay. You never take into account margins. If you suddenly start paying $100 or $200 per employee per month, that`s a HUGE chunk of change! Think about it for just a moment.
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Male 74
The very notion that this isnt repulsive to some is so strange to me, I really cant rap my head around this tbh. Theres two sides to this, the guy could take the hit, not increase prices, and still turn a tidy profit. But OK thats fine he doesnt wish to decrease his income so he adds this 20c or whatever to the pizzas but suddenly these pizzas you all were eating for dinner are now too expensive and you wont pay for them when in reality this is enabling the staff to have health care. How can both parties demanding more or less not care that their own selfishness is depriving people of affordable healthcare all for the sakes of 20c
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Male 10,338
"most Papa John`s are franchises with too few full-time employees to be required to provide health insurance."

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

The largest franchise in America is owned by Extra Cheese Incorporated. They have a CEO named Doug Stephens. HE owns 2300+/- stores.

"What about the countries that he operates out of that have universal coverage?"

They don`t drat businesses in the ass to get funding for their health care.
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Male 2,850
@blk954

"He can do whatever the hell he wants. It`s HIS business and it`s still (at least for a little while longer) a free country."

Correct, he has the freedom to run his business however he likes.

And we have the freedom to call him a greedy, evil douche when we think he`s acting like one.
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Male 2,214
Papa Jack-off. Their pizza sucks donkey balls.
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Male 23
What about the countries that he operates out of that have universal coverage? Will he close those retroactively?
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Male 2,528
If we stop ordering his pizza due to his political beliefs, then we aren`t hurting him, but his employees. He will continue to live in that castle. His employees, however, will start to drop like flies as the business recedes.
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Male 15,187
I believe it is increasing the temptation for small business owners to discriminate against older people and women of childbearing age.
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Male 17,512
I apologize, apparently I repeated a rumor about John Schnatter that wasn`t true. It`s something I heard a long time ago and never had a reason to doubt it until now.

That still doesn`t change the fact that his company uses the same suppliers and ingredients as other national pizza chains.
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Male 1,071
Their pizza is terrible, I`m surprised so many idiots order enough of that crap for him to afford a house like that in the first place.
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Male 3
I`ve got nothing against him personally (he looks like a tool), but there`s something sinister about naming yourself Papa John....
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Male 560
So because this guy said he`s going to have to make employees redundant over changes to his company`s liabilities(he seems to know how to run a successful company having built it up, and considering the fat cats get more profit for employees that produce more then they cost he`s not going to chuck them away and get less money). People get soooo outraged at the loss of workers that they boycott the business in the hope it what, goes bankrupt? Loses a lot of profit? and all more or all the employees get made redunant? Yes us proles are soooo much smarter then the fatcats....
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Male 210
I don`t fully understand why all the right-wingers believe health care for every body is a bad thing and will leave Americans broke.

Look at canada; free health care and for the first time Canadians net house worth is higher then Americans (although you could blame that on how our government handled the recession and the fact that they have a tighter grip on their banks).

Canadians also spend less of their GDP on health care. And if any ones wondering, their life expectancy is higher (although there are many different factors that come into play for that).
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Male 700
I was bored, Now i`m depressed
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Male 13,630
Always been the same in any corporation
Fat cat gets fatter, employees get the harsh edge
capitalism, great aint it
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Male 12,138
[quote]I`ve never liked `Papa John`, the guy used to be an executive for Pizza Hut and stole trade secrets and supplier lists from them. Then he opens his own pizza chain and claims "Better ingredients", when it`s the same suppliers and ingredients.[/quote]
Either you`re straight-out making sh*t up, or the entire rest of the world is. Wow. Based on past experience, I`ll go with the former.
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Male 15,832
@HG, [quote]That`s not true at all. His competitors happen to be in America too right? You don`t think they are also going to have to accommodate the same cost increase? [/quote]
Not if they have fewer than 50 employees. Many pizza restaurant owners are independent or franchisees who fall into that category.

And the punishment isn`t having to pay a little extra for pizza, but rather for EVERYTHING. And don`t forget that millions of people are going to lose their jobs over this before it`s over. They`re the ones who are REALLY going to pay the price for ObamaCare and the rest of his failed and failing Marxist policies.

And don`t you think that if they thought they could get away with a 15-cent price increase without losing business they`d have done it already?
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Female 1,803
Besides the fact that the whole "14 cents per pizza" was a bogus bloated figure considering most Papa John`s are franchises with too few full-time employees to be required to provide health insurance.
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Female 136
WoW
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Male 2,711
This VVV



(besides, his pizza tastes like soggy cardboard)
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Male 2,988
as far as delivery chain, still the best tasting. plus with their rewards points i get a poo load of free pizzas. so yes i will still buy from them. deal with it. higher operating costs results it either higher product costs or lower employee wages. thats how our economy is supposed to work.
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Male 39,602

He`s kinda cute.
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Male 787
I agree with Cracr. Just because he`s wealthy doesn`t mean he`s allowed to push his anarchist agenda on his employees.

(oh how easy it is to turn your bullpoo rhetoric around on itself)
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Male 9,524
Crakr

"the guy used to be an executive for Pizza Hut and stole trade secrets and supplier lists from them."

Dude. You are a misinformation machine.

"In 1983, at the age of 22, Schnatter started delivering pizza out of his father`s co-owned tavern in Jeffersonville, Indiana. In the same year, he sold his 1971 Camaro Z28 to purchase the other half of the tavern in what became his family`s first "pizza place." Today, the Papa John’s franchise has 4,000 restaurants in 50 states and 30 countries."

http://tinyurl.com/ncxq4

He has never had any association with Pizza Hut other than getting sued by them.
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Male 210
You only hear guys like him talking about taking jobs/hours/wages from the lowest payed workers, never the over-payed executives.

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Male 17,512
I`ve never liked `Papa John`, the guy used to be an executive for Pizza Hut and stole trade secrets and supplier lists from them. Then he opens his own pizza chain and claims "Better ingredients", when it`s the same suppliers and ingredients.

Despite my dislike for him, he can do whatever he wants with his business. This post is pure class warfare BS. It doesn`t matter how wealthy he is, that`s no excuse to try and push socialist propaganda on the public.
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Male 4,014
Ollie - I think a proper examination of who is butthurt over what might show butthurt coming more from the losers than winners, but butthurt analysis is tricky. I concede potential butthurt on both sides, but the "14 cents is too much so f*ck my employees" is demonstrative of more butthurt than those saying, "wow, a Rich Republican willing to screw his minimum wage employees is a dick." But yes, butthurt abounds.
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Male 621
Nothing wrong with a 22 car garage imo.
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Male 3,908
All those chain pizza places suck anyway. I prefer locally owned mom & pop places. There`s one in the town upstate I grew up in that`s family owned & operated and it`s been around for over 50 years. One time some prick thought it would be a good idea to put a Domino`s around the corner a few years ago and failed miserably. I thought it was awesome because you never see sh*t like that! Usually it`s the big corporation that comes in and runs the little guy out of town but it didn`t work!
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Male 4,014
Auburn - don`t make up facts. He is the CEO & Chairman of the Board. He both runs the daily operations (CEO) and steers the direction of the company from a policy level (Chairman). He is NOT a figure head. Don`t try and explain away - he`s a Repupblican a-hole, and you`re right, it`s his choice. God Bless America.
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Male 2,419
"Bow down before the one you serve, you`re going to get what you deserve"

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Male 497
i think his pizza sucks already, so he doesnt get me business either way.
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Male 4,014
And yet, somehow, pizza will still get made and eaten.
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Female 1,743
Kcpd wins the troll award for this thread.
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Male 102
Last I checked he had no part in the company aside from being the de facto mascot.
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Male 10,338
It`s his business. He can run it the way he sees fit.

Also, this guy is a figure head. He has no say so in the day to day operations of the company He is just relaying messages.
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Male 3,445
OT, but these auto-playing video ads are killing me Fancy.
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Male 425
I vaguely remember that cool thing called capitalism that was in place. In this system people will be less fortunate than others, but it`s their fault if they don`t hate it enough to do something about it.
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Male 1,674
@blk954 first of all, this is not *his* business to do with as he pleases. Papa Johns in a publically owned company, John Schnatter is just the CEO. I`m not saying this isn`t the right thing to do, just don`t go saying it`s "his business` and he "can do whatever he want".

Also, no one is saying he should be arrested. They`re just saying not to buy his pizzas. As consumers, are we not free to do as we please?
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Male 3,445
The amazing thing is that HolyGod is actually a business owner and the rest of us are...?
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Male 330
I think anyone who does not pay income tax or has accepted government aide should forfeit their right to vote. The reason Obama won again was in large part due to the fact folks don`t want their gravy train to stop. What difference does it make if we have a balanced budget? Just keeping giving away free stuff. Oh and Papa John`s pizza taste like donkey taint.
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Male 9,524
OldOllie

"He probably nets less than 14 cents per pizza for his personal take, and if he raises his prices to cover the extra cost, he will lose business to his competitors. "

That`s not true at all. His competitors happen to be in America too right? You don`t think they are also going to have to accommodate the same cost increase?

So basically what is going to happen is that unlimited topping large pizzas will go from $9.99 to $10.25. Yes, "we`re all going to have to take the punishment".

Come on.
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Male 4,745
I was OK with him being a rich guy. Not OK with him being an a$$hole. No..I would order from somewhere else.
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Male 3,445
`I am in favor of a national heath system, but I think it`s a taxpayer funded plan, not a "bill-the-rich" thing.`

There I agree.
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Male 39,602

@McThstlpnts - with that logic, "why does one man have a mazarati when I have to get by with a volkswagon?"

He started a company. He was successful. So BAD him! Punish him an make him pay for everything I want.

I am in favor of a national heath system, but I think it`s a taxpayer funded plan, not a "bill-the-rich" thing.
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Male 185
He can do whatever the hell he wants. It`s HIS business and it`s still (at least for a little while longer) a free country. He warned people he was going to do this and he will most likely keep his word. I know all of you "gimme more", lazy, a**holes are in shock. This is just the tip of the iceberg my socialist friends. It`s going to get MUCH worse. I LOVE IT!!!!!!!
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Male 3,445
`So why is he responsable to pay for your health care?`

His employees are why he enjoys his own health care and overall high standard of living.
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Female 1,539
@Gerry101 What makes it right for one company to provide Health insurance for their employees and another not? You`re right he doesn`t have to. But it is called equal opportunity. How can you justify someone working a job or more than one job but still not be able to afford health insurance and needing gov`t assistance as a result? How is that right or moral? Really we shouldn`t be attacking the corporation or "Obamacare" we should be pointing the finger at Insurance companies that are causing all this mess. It is so ridiculously expensive to get Health Insurance on your own...especially since businesses/corporations gets serious discounts for providing insurance to their employees if they choose to do so.
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Female 28
So what he`s saying is because the cost of running his business is increasing he might have to increase the cost of his pizza for a nominal amount? That`s the first time that`s ever happened in the history of ever! He`s just whiny because the candidate who doesn`t cater to the extremely wealthy won. Anybody here play the violin? Your services are needed.
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Female 695
papa john`s sucks anyway
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Male 15,832
He probably nets less than 14 cents per pizza for his personal take, and if he raises his prices to cover the extra cost, he will lose business to his competitors.

All you Obama supporters were warned that this would happen, but I guess you thought all these business owners were just bluffing. Well, it turns out that they weren`t bluffing, and now you`re acting all butt-hurt.

Your mistake was in assuming that everyone else is as dishonest as you are. You were wrong, and now we`re all going to have to take the punishment that you deserve.
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Male 9,524
Kind of a dumb move for PR. If he would have went on TV and said "I will be raising the price on all pizzas 25 cents so that my company can begin to provide healthcare options to all employees, something every American should have". I would have made a point to get Papa Johns whenever I ordered delivery and he would have made an extra 12 cents of profit ON TOP of the 14 cents to cover healthcare.
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Male 1,595
You know how much his house costs to maintain?
He needs that money or else the company suffers, and in turn, every employee suffers.
Sure, he could have taken the `moderate living` choice, but what would you do if you owned a huge pizza chain like Papa John`s?
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Male 39,602

He`s successful and he`s enjoying it.
So why is he responsable to pay for your health care?
Does he also have to make your car payment?
Or buy your auto insurance?
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Male 143
*sigh* I`m not even going to start the argument, but to find out the truth take an economics course or open an econ book. Maybe this post is right, maybe it isn`t.
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Male 1,793
He`s an asshat...
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Male 179
calling something a castle doesn`t make it a castle!
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Female 1,539
The US Postal service is also planning on cutting hours too. It is a horrible situation. People with mediocre jobs just to make ends meet can`t afford basic medical insurance and their mediocre jobs won`t offer it. So you bring in ACA. Now these massive corporations who provide said jobs are finding loopholes to STILL not provide healthcare for their employees. You would think good ol` Papa John would be more sympathetic since he used to be poor but it would seem the money has gone to his head. Welcome to capitalistic America where the rich live the life of luxury on the backs of the poor.
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Male 1,341
Papa John`s makes some pretty good pizza....
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Male 3,310
LOL, if I stop patronizing corporations because they have republican non-nice individuals as their CEOs then I might as well go live in shack and start my manifesto. Shall we start looking closely at internet providers? That will cut the posts down, yuk yuk yuk
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Male 2,841
...And he can do whatever the drat he wants with HIS money and HIS business.
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Female 4,086
sad to say, he`s not the only one. while the idea of adding (or `eating`) 14 cents per pizza sounds ludicrous, many other companies are contemplating cutting their employees` hours down to 30 or less per week in order to circumvent the new health care mandate. so now between me and my old man, our three jobs (plus taking care of a new baby) may soon morph into five jobs. thank you, powers-that-be.
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Male 3,445
He`s also giving away 2 million free pizzas for an NFL tie in.
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Male 39,602

And your point is . . . ?
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Male 20,828
Link: Should You Order Papa John`s Pizza? [Pic] [Rate Link] - Of course, you can make up your own mind, but Papa John Schnatter`s politics might alter your decision making process.
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